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Carlos Ponce

Don't blame the newspaper, Clyde. Editors have the right to express their thoughts on the op-ed page even with a jejune column like "No matter who wins, let's lose the Electoral College". It gives the rest of us an opportunity to expose the fallacies in this ill-conceived concept.

Bailey Jones

This is why I disagree with the "winner takes all" approach in the editorial. I prefer allocating electoral votes in each state proportionally to the popular vote in the state. That protects the voice of small states but also protects the votes of the minority party in each state. It's a win-win. It actually reduces the power of states like California, where there is a 65/35 Democrat majority. Under my plan, California's electoral votes would go 65% to Biden, and 35% to Trump. In Texas where there is something like a 53/47 Republican majority, 53% of votes would go to Trump, 47% to Biden. This makes all states relevant on election night, and makes every citizen's vote count.

in a case like Pennsylvania where Trump won by less than a percent in 2016, and Biden may win by less than a percent, the 20 electoral votes would be split 11-9, allowing the losing party to still influence the election.

Gary Miller

Bailey> You must have been thinking long and hard to come up with this. Only problem is what would be done about the non citizen vote. Without which California is more like a 55 to 45 state. Why should any state get electoral votes for non citizens.

Bailey Jones

Gary, there is no evidence of widespread voting by non-citizens in California or anywhere else. I suspect that the talking head that has you under its spell is conflating certain municipal elections that do allow non-citizen voting with federal elections that do not. As always - I welcome evidence that proves me wrong.

Craig Mason

It seems that it would be easy enough to find and arrest non-citizens who voted illegally and I am just not hearing of that happening.

Carlos Ponce

" there is no evidence of widespread voting by non-citizens in California or anywhere else" Hear no truth, see no truth LIE LIKE THE DEVIL!

Gary Miller

Bailey> Reading CA election law proves you wrong. CA non citizens are legally counted in local elections and state popular vote but not for electoral college.

Gary Miller

The California non citizen vote is not illegal. California election law permits them to vote in local elections. Their vote doesn't count in the electoral college but is counted in the national popular vote. Six other states let non citizens vote without being counted for the electoral college but are counted in the popular vote.

Bailey Jones

I'm going to assume that what you're saying isn't true, just as I would if you were Donald Trump, but even so - as Carlos likes to remind us - the popular vote means nothing, so these votes (if real) have no effect of the outcome of the election. So why the sad face?

Carlos Ponce

"but even so - as Carlos likes to remind us - the popular vote means nothing" I never said, posted nor implied that. Don't you remember when you made a flippant post athatRepublicans in California should not vote? You're off your meds again Bailey.

Bailey Jones

So, Hillary really did win!

Carlos Ponce

Not enough states decided by each states' popular vote, Bailey.

Stephanie Martin

Well said Mr. Holt.

Curtiss Brown

For the phony conservatives, the Constitution is the law until it isn't.

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