I want to thank Congressman Randy Weber for his vote on the House floor in support of President Trump's racists comments.

He can now breath easier with the hood off.

John R. Cobarruvias

Houston (Clear Lake)

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Carlos Ponce

John R. Cobarruvias, there was no race reference in that tweet. ZERO, ZIP, NADA. In that tweet there were no names given. Your statement this was a racist tweet is without any merit, without any basis.

Mike Zeller

Carlos, read all of Trumps double down tweets, then you will be up to speed. Everyone knows the names of the Congresswomen and the countries they were originally from, except Carlos Ponce. Why do you think he singled out 4 Brown Women in his numerous tweets? I'd like to hear what Carlos Ponce the teacher would have done, with a white male student that repeatedly berated 4 brown girls, in front of the entire class.

Pete Nanos

Well Mike, I guess you have forgotten the video stating that one of the "brown" girls was going to impeach the MFer. Or that one of the "brown" girls had referred to Trump as a racist long before he ever tweeted about any of them. Or that one of the "brown" girls has openly made antisemetic statements and was never repremanded for them. Or that one of the "brown" girls has lied about the situation on the border and openly accused law enforcement of caging up children. I could go on, but as a teacher, Carlos would recognize when someone is being harassed by a group who thinks that because they are "brown" nobody should be able to say anything about their behavior.

Carlos Ponce

Mike, check the websites on biographical data on AOC. She is listed as WHITE . And at the time of the post no names were given, no RACE was given. People automatically knew who in Congress was stating prejudiced, ant- Jewish, anti- Semitic, anti- Israel, anti-American remarks. SO OBVIOUS! DUH!

Jim Forsythe

If you look at biographical websites that Carlos does, you will find Alexandria Ocasio Cortez listed as "white". Below are the facts about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.-------------------------------------- Ocasio-Cortez was born in The Bronx, New York City, on October 13, 1989 to Blanca Ocasio-Cortez (née Cortez) and Sergio Ocasio in a Catholic family She has a younger brother, Gabriel Ocasio-Cortez. Her father was born in the Bronx to a Puerto Rican family and became an architect; her mother was born in Puerto Rico. She has described her Puerto Rican community as an amalgamation: "We are black; we are indigenous; we are Spanish; we are European. Ocasio-Cortez lived with her family in an apartment in the Bronx neighborhood of Parkchester until age five, when the family moved to a house in suburban Yorktown Heights, New

Bailey Jones

Carlos - have you ever filled out a census form? In the census - the official measure of Americans - the first question asked (after sex and age) is "Is this person of Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish origin?" If yes, the next question is whether they are Mexican (Mexican-American or Chicano), or Puerto Rican, or Cuban, or other - and there's a place to print what "other" means. Only after all of that has been cataloged does it ask "what is the race of this person?" The hierarchy is clear. The US classifies AOC as Puerto Rican first and foremost. That's certainly how Trump sees her - as a non-American, non-white invader who should shut up and be glad she's even allowed to stay here. I suspect that's how he feels about all Latinx who don't demonstrate the proper level of obeisance (don't worry, you're safe).

Carlos Ponce

Keep looking, Jim. Her community may be Black, white, European but she lists herself as WHITE, just like you and me. I'm not 100% White. I am 41% Native American, 35% Spanish, 12% Portuguese, 4% Irish and Scottish, 2% European Jewish, 2% French and 1% each from Benin/Togo, Italy, Senegal and Northern Africa. From her features, AOC is predominantly White, a mix, no doubt but WHITE.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, Question 6, 2000 Census [Question 8 on short form] : What is this person's race? White? Black, African Am. or Negro? American Indian or Alaska Native? Asian Indian, Chinese? Filipino? Japanese? Korean? Vietnamese? Native Hawaiian? Guamanian or Chamorro? Samoan? Other Pacific Islander — Print race. Ditto on 2010 census. Yes I have filled out census forms.

Bailey Jones

https://www.census.gov/2010census/pdf/2010_Questionnaire_Info.pdf

Carlos Ponce

Question 9 on 2010 Census. Race and ethnicity are not the same.

Gary Miller

Three kinda brown plus AOC who is white according to her drivers licence. The four spouting the same retoric including anti semetic, anti white, anti male and anti conservative identify themselves as the Democrat RACIST squad.

Charles Douglas

If the four brown girls were disrupting and destroying the cohesiveness of Mr. Ponce's class like those congresswoman are doing to the US Congress and are continuing their quest to disrupt and discredit Israel, my guess, strickly a guess now,.... Mr. Pounce would have dealt effectively with them and the other problem would not have occurred, ..but that's just my guess!

George Caros

Carlos Ponce you must work for government or you don't work to be able to suck trump so much

Pete Nanos

Hey John Cobarruvias, are you still a member in good standing with the KKK? At least the racebaiters at the GDN think your post was worthy enough to print. You're a real POS. Let's see if this gets printed.

Pete Nanos

Guess the GDN ignores it's own rules when it comes down to conservatives, republicans, (BE NICE) Really? You have proved your staff lacks journalistic integrity and a moral compass. This post should never have made it to your readers, but it did. Disgusting.

Keith Gray

Really disappointed that this opinion was published... this is what feeds division.

Paula Flinn

It illuminates the division. People are going to make their own decisions about President Trump—his personality, his words, his actions, his tweets, and his policies. A Letter to the Editor won’t change any minds.

Keith Gray

Paula, it hosts the opinions that fuel the fire... In this case, really foolish and potentially dangerous opinion. Look at how the word racist is used... the crying of wolf has diminished the meaning. IMHO

Carlos Ponce

Who wears hoods today? Young people in their hoodies, especially minority youth. Does that make John Covarrubias' letter RACIST? By the way, I've never seen Randy Weber in a hoodie.

Bailey Jones

Why are Democrats continuously amazed that America elected a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot for president? That describes most of our presidents. As far as Weber - he knows which side of his bread is buttered (hint - it's the white side). At least he has always been a Trumpster, unlike so many spineless Republicans who think their constituents are idiots ---- "He's a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot... I think he's a kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office." - Lindsey Graham describing Donald Trump in 2015, before becoming his strongest defender (next to GCDN commentators, of course). I do enjoy watching Trump destroy the Republican Party, though. Too bad he's destroying the rest of our political institutions in the process. And now, back to the inanity ...

Carlos Ponce

" America elected a race baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot for president" FALSE

Bailey Jones

Right on cue.

Carlos Ponce

"enophobic, religious bigot" And as usual you are drinking the Left wing Kool-aid.

Michael Jozwiak

Randy "Photo Op" Weber is worthless. Just a cowardly sycophant of the GOP leadership supporting hate, racism, and bigotry despite claiming to be Christian, or KKKhristian. He got to go and be replaced with someone holding humane values and decency.

Carlos Ponce

Michael Jozwiak, Randy Weber does quite a bit. If you don't know this then you should reconsider your news sources. Ignorance is sad.[sad]

Kimberley Jones Yancy

As an African-American woman who grew up in Clear Lake where I had been told by students to “go back to Africa” a term used by white racists in the past and now apparently in the future. My parents and both sets of my grandparent experiences this as well. It is a slogan of hate with horrible past ramifications. I am disappointed that Randy Weber did not try to give corrective action to our President for his hateful speech. It is interesting that people who perhaps don’t live the daily life of racism in America are being asked “Is it racist? Where those tweets racist?” If YOU don’t think that was racist well then you do not know racist propaganda at all, but why would you? If you don’t have dark brown skin or African facial characteristics & color you may not know. Ask me. It was racist as a white man participating in a lynching yelling the same line that was said at the North Carolina rally.

Bailey Jones

Kimberly, there isn't a single person of my generation and geography (and that's most of the commentators here) who hasn't heard the "go back where you came from" taunt used against blacks and Latinx. They simply can't acknowledge that fact now that their president has adopted it as his 2020 campaign slogan. It was used in these pages just a few weeks ago against an Iranian-American who had the audacity to question Trump's handling of relations with Iran. It's nothing new. The only new part is the new low in presidential rhetoric, and the new high in conservative apologetics.

Carlos Ponce

As a "Latinx?" I never heard "Go home" except in the Beatles song. Who knew the Beatles were so racist.

Bailey Jones

I can always count on Carlos to chime in and prove my point.

Carlos Ponce

Did either Randy Weber or Donald Trump say "“go back to Africa” ???? No. What does Kimberly Jones Yancy find "offensive"? " If YOU don’t think that was racist well then you do not know racist propaganda at all..." FALSE. There was NOTHING Racist about it. It's ALL in your mind. Find me one racist word in Trump's tweet or oration....... It is not there. It's ALL inyour mind. We cannot stop your hatred.

Carlos Ponce

This is what Trump Tweeted: "So interesting to see 'Progressive' Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!" Where is the racism? No race is mentioned, no names given. A TRUE RACIST would not tweet, "Then come back and show us how it is done."

Carlos Ponce

"Then come back and show us how it is done." Sounds like he's asking them to VISIT their home country, state , Congressional District on a fact finding mission and then RETURN with their findings. Not racist at all.

Don Schlessinger

Details, details, details! Isn't it interesting how some people quote just enough of a sentence to use it against someone. Even more interesting they do it knowing everyone reading these posts have read, and listened to, the whole paragraph reported many times over. Makes me wonder who they are trying to convince.

Emile Pope

Three of them were born here. trump finally admits the truth. Thank goodness they are doing exactly that...

Carlos Ponce

"Three of them were born here." Then he wasn't tweeting about them. DUH! There are 23 members of Congress born outside the US, six are Congresswomen -all Democrats.

Emile Pope

Really? First you say that it wasn't racist because AOC is considered white. Now you say that it wasn't even about her? Especially since trump said that it was about the four? You lose again...

Carlos Ponce

Try to keep up with Trump's statements and tweets, Emile. You seem to jump from one to the next and mix them all up.[rolleyes]

Dan Freeman

It is fairly obvious that the use of America First as a policy and "Go back where you come from are both anti-Semitic and racially charged: "The America First Committee … tried to maintain their distance from anti-Semites and fascists, but the lunatic fringe of counter-subversives was drawn irresistibly to them, wild for the possibility of become part of a powerful mainstream political movement. Gerald L. K. Smith, Elizabeth Dilling, Gerald B. Winrod, William Dudley Pelley, Charles Coughlin, Laura Ingalls, and all of the country's other notorious anti-Semitic anticommunist crackpots joyously raised the temperature of the debate by attacking defense preparations as Jewish inspired and Communist directed." Richard Gid Powers, Not Without Honor: The History of American Anticommunism (The Free Press, 1995: Yale University Press ed., 1998), p. 167 Ethnic slurs and other verbal or physical conduct because of nationality are illegal if they are severe or pervasive and create an intimidating, hostile or offensive working environment, interfere with work performance, or negatively affect job opportunities. Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers. https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm

Carlos Ponce

"Then come back and show us how it is done." That is not racist. That is not anti-Semitic.

Dan Freeman

Trump's remarks are what this column was discussing. He said Go back where you came from in reference to people of color. That is racist according to the EEOC. His America First policies are widely recognized as anti-Semitic. I was only trying to refresh your memory.

Carlos Ponce

"He said Go back where you came from" No he did not. He tweeted, "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."

Dan Freeman

Remember that Mr. Ponce used to enjoy intimidating African American students over the Confederate flag. For example: “Carlos Ponce Apr 13, 2015 11:32am As a teacher, whenever the Confederate Flag was displayed to students as either the Battle Flag or the Stars and Bars, no African -American student had problems with it. When I asked some African-American students about a Confederate Flag flying overhead (the Stars and Bars) at "Six Flags over Texas" they said they had no problems with it. It was a part of history-their history.” Galveston Daily News

Charles Douglas

No! I don't remember any intimidation of African-American students! When, where.. and how did any intimidation take place? So now you have decided to lower yourself to denigrating a man because of his conservative views on this forum of hate? The only individual on this forum who I have witnessed refer to or defer to anything coming from the Word of God or the gospel of Jesus Christ, has been none other than Mr. Carlos Ponce! It is very tragic and despicable to make accusations you have made because you like so many others have a retched hatred of President Trump. Sir, I think you should back up a little and re-assess what you have posted or show me where I have misread WHAT you have posted. Moreover, I think GDN should better monitor what's being posted on this forum because the stuff I'm seeing is definite crossing their own guidelines.

Dan Freeman

Read Mr. Ponce's quoted confrontation with African American students while away from campus. I did not accuse him of hate and would not. But he bragged about confronting students over Confederate symbols. I am reminding you of what he wrote. As for references to Christianity, I for one have made this reference many times, especially with regard to inclusiveness and love for all others. Moreover, I pray for President Trump regularly. I am incapable of hating him. But I do abhor many of his statements and actions. Finally, the right to speak about people's actions and words are protected by the First Amendment.

Carlos Ponce

Dan, you accused me of intimidation. You are very WRONG.

Charles Douglas

I hear you talking sir, but did you do to Mr. PONCE what the Apostle Paul did to the Apostle Peter in the book of Galatians 2:11-12, where Paul got face up and confronted Peter for what he perceived was a wrong doing for a Christain's behavior? Paul did not climb on the roof top and tell all the sinners and Romans and the Sanhedrin that Peter was a crook did he? I would have at least expected you as a servant of God as you described .....to confront Mr. PONCE about your concerns. If you had you would not have tried to use the information you thought you had as a bat upside his head today. One other thing, did you even investigate and procure a statement from any involved in the situation you described saying that anyone was intimidated? Maybe it was just a discussion between a former teacher and his ex-students. Why would you make it more? Have you always been there for African-Americans? Where were you in the sixties, when I was integrating doctor offices in Ruston Louisaina? Where were you when I was going through the side doors of General Stores in East Texas marked "Colored Only?" Same deal near the border on my way for College in Louisaina? What were you up to when the fight was going on brother? Jesus told his disciples in John 13:34-35 that others would know your love for him if you demonstrated the same love he demonstrated toward them to one another! Talk is cheap. The proof is not in talk but performing!!! I'm not just on you ....I which your party in DC would stop talking and doing. My parents were liberals all their lives as I was for a good piece of mine. However you live and learn! God is my provider and my source, everything and everybody else are just provisions or resources.

Carlos Ponce

"enjoy intimidating African American students" So you think asking students their thoughts on the Confederate Flag at Six Flags is intimidating? Dan, asking a student's opinion is NOT intimidating. If it offended them I wanted to know. It did not. They had no problems with it. Neither did the La Marque High School Band students who played "Dixie" for their UIL show at Marching Contest. It's good to have conversations with students outside the classroom setting to get their views. Intimidating? Nonsense!

Dan Freeman

When a teacher confronts a student using Confederated symbols it is influential. When a teacher does it to an African American student on or off campus it is intimidating. If you did that today, you would be reprimanded for racist actions, regardless of you intent. Abide by community standards.

Carlos Ponce

It is not intimidating. And when I asked them, these students were not enrolled in my class, I had them years before. But they answered truthfully knowing I valued their opinion and judgement. I guess you wouldn't know anything about that.

Kelly Naschke

Freeman’s lights are on.....but no one is home.

Pete Nanos

Sorry Carlos, but you're dealing with the true racists in this world. These are the same folks who would shut down any conversation they did not agree with. They are democrats who cry racist at anything and anyone, but they forget it wasn't that long ago that they were the ones who blocked voting rights for blacks, who refused to allow busing, who blocked black children from entering all white schools. Nothing worse than a "reformed racist".

Bailey Jones

Meanwhile, two police officers in Gretna, La., were fired on Monday, four days after one of them referred to Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as a “vile idiot” on social media and suggested that she should be shot. Presidential statements have consequences.

Carlos Ponce

Presidential statements, Bailey? No. There was a fake story placed on Facebook. Gretna Police Department officer Charlie Rispoli shared a fake news story with a headline that quoted Ocasio-Cortez as saying U.S. soldiers are "getting paid too much." Rispoli added "This vile idiot needs a round ... and I don't mean the kind she used to serve." This violated Gretna PD social media policy. Any tie in to the president? No. FAKE NEWS is the culprit here. But as President Trump has said, "FAKE NEWS is the enemy of the people. Charlie Rispoli should have vetted this FAKE NEWS story before "liking" it and sharing on Facebook. "His Facebook post, which was spotted by the news site NOLA.com over the weekend, comes amid heightened scrutiny of racist and violent social media posts from police officers nationwide" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/charlie-rispoli-lousiana-gretna-city-police-department-officer-alexandria-ocasio-cortez/ "Alluding to a violent act to be conducted against a sitting U-S Congressman, a member of our government, we're not going to tolerate that," [Police Chief Arthur]Lawson said. https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/jefferson/2-gretna-police-officers-fired-after-facebook-post-suggests-rep-ocasio-cortez-should-be-shot/289-cb013261-04bf-48d6-8887-8f74e02be699 Any tie in to President Trump? No.

Jim Forsythe

Presidential statements have consequences.

Carlos Ponce

And this wasn't one of them.

Jim Forsythe

Presidential statements have consequences. Mail bomber obsessed with Trump, Fox News, chilling new court filings show ------------------------------------------- New defense filings in the case of admitted serial bomber Cesar Sayoc paint a grim picture of a man who "lost everything in the Great Recession," had "cognitive limitations and severe learning disabilities" and was "abandoned by his father and sexually abused by a teacher at his Catholic school." "In his statements, Trump specifically blamed many of the individuals whom Mr. Sayoc ultimately targeted with his packages,"-- The defense filing draws a thread through Sayoc's "religious" viewing of Fox News programs like "Fox and Friends" and "Hannity," to his following of Trump supporters on social media and his connection to hundreds of right-wing Facebook groups, many of which "promoted various conspiracy theories, and more generally, the idea that Trump’s critics were dangerous, unpatriotic, and evil."

Carlos Ponce

Jim, a Bernie supporter planned to assassinate Republican Congressmen. He managed to shoot one. Did Republicans then place the blame on Bernie Sanders? No. It is asinine for you to place blame on Trump.

Jim Forsythe

Presidential statements have consequences, and in this case it was played out by Cesar Sayoc when he become a mail bomber obsessed with Trump Cesar Sayoc is a Republican that did a bad thing that he said he got his guidance from Fox and Friends" and "Hannity and also Trump supporters on social media .----------------- "Donald Trump said he would force the U.S. military to commit war crimes. Trump has suggested that he’d order the U.S. military to kill families of Muslim terrorists and institute interrogation techniques worse than waterboarding, itself widely condemned as torture. Torture and retaliatory executions are both war crimes under international law." “They won’t refuse. They’re not going to refuse me,” he said. “If I say do it, they’re going to do it.”

Carlos Ponce

Everyone should take responsibility for his or her own actions. It's called personal responsibility.

Emile Pope

Trump considers fake news as articles critical of him. The truth of the item is irrelevant. So in that case it wasn't fake news according to trump's definition.It was simply a lie. And it was made on someone the president personally attacked with lies. So the guy was just following the tide of supporting false information...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, FAKE NEWS is putting out a false , unvetted narrative. When major News sources, quoted someone who claimed to be a Santa Fe teacher during the May 18 shootings that was FAKE NEWS since he was not. The police officer's source was a satirical web source where items are FAKE. He should have known better.

Emile Pope

Not according to trump. He calls any criticism of him fake news or treason...

Carlos Ponce

Unless you find a quote from Donald Trump himself, it's just made up. You will find many Leftist sources who use the same definition you do. But that's just FAKE NEWS. FAKE NEWS is precisely that - false narratives put out as genuine news. A lot is directed at the President, but not all.

Emile Pope

What kind of backward logic is that? A person can do something but as long as they don't admit to it they are considered innocent? Guess it would free up the court calendars but would people feel safe?

Carlos Ponce

In other words.... Emile made it up.

Bailey Jones

And why are Trumpsters spreading fake news about AOC as opposed to say, Ed Markey (co-author of the Green New Deal) or Andy Levin, (considered to be the most liberal of liberals in Congress)? It's because Trump has been been tweeting about her - turning her from what she is (the youngest, most junior and least powerful member of congress) into the great enemy of America. Your response is textbook - the same one we've heard over and over again ad nauseam since the election. "Trump didn't say that! And if he did, that's not what he meant! And if he did mean it - well that's just how he talks! Wheeeeee! Look at that jobs report!" Blah, blah, blah. Someday I hope to wake up in a world where even a single Republican will call on Trump to take responsibility for his own rhetoric. But, obviously, that won't be today. (Now you can tell me how the four women he's been verbally assaulting were "asking for it".)

Mike Zeller

Bailey, your description of Carlos Ponce, "DEAD ON". [thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

I love you too, Mike.

Mike Zeller

Show Bailey some love! [beam]

Emile Pope

Trump’s a racist. He’s been one for a long time. The fact he denies it is irrelevant. And trying to defend his comments to justify your support of him does nothing expose the willful ignorance of many of his followers...

Cary Semar

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