White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki on Thursday again said that businesses with 100 or more workers should move forward and implement the federal governments’ rule requiring workers to get vaccinated or submit to regular testing.

“Our message to businesses right now is to move forward with measures that will make their workplaces safer and protect their workforces from COVID-19,” she told reporters at the White House. “That was our message after the first stay issued by the Fifth Circuit. That remains our message and nothing has changed.”

This administration has no respect for anything that doesn't line up with their agenda. American businesses need to stand against this tyranny, as well as American workers.

If we don't follow the law, we suffer the consequences. There's a reason that the president's approval ratings are tanking. I believe that the consequences are coming in November. Be sure to make your voice heard.

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Stuart Crouch

Tyranny?? Puhleeeese! Contact Blue Cross/Blue Shield; maybe they will cover all of your emotional butthurt over decisions you either cannot comprehend or have been conditioned to object to "just because". Just put on your big boy shorts and get the shots - it won't hurt, promise! Maybe you can get a free piece of gum or have a balloon tied to your wrist for being such a good, big boy. And, should you be on your best behavior for the remainder of the year, maybe Santa will bring you that "Tucker Carlson Action Figure" you so longingly pine for. Check your stocking on the mantle for the pin-up calendar featuring the "Dolls of Mein Kampf", a.k.a. Lauren Boebert & Marjorie the Munchkin Green. All that's left, really, is the Orange Cult lunchbox...quite flashy, yet very empty on the inside, complete with its malodorous waif of the death & decay of what was once the GOP (now an affectionate acronym for Greed Over People).

Yes, with whatever each November may bring, now with a stack of new voting restrictions, partisan gerrymandered maps that continue to champion the Republican racists divide and whatever other lunacy bestowed upon us from the Texas Taliban in Austin. Winning just isn't quite as sweet when you have to cheat to win, no? And one of your best tactics is to accuse the other side of what you've been doing all along; point fingers with one hand and pick pockets with the other. Regardless, whatever November brings, I cannot imagine the Democrats, should they be unsuccessful, resorting to the childish thuggery of your simpletons that attacked our democracy on 1/6. Redneckery run amok; the Pied Piper has got nothing on your exalted cult leader. Yessir, y'all carry a stink that won't wash off over that one, though it's fun to watch you try with letters like the one you've written here. Nice try, but no banana.

Carlos Ponce

Truth comes along and Stuart dismisses it.

Carol Dean

LOL! The good news is that we WON'T have to wait until November. The "Lefties" are already "hanging themselves"!

Ivory Rubin

I was going to post a response, but Stuart Crouch's is rather sufficient. Enough said!!

Ed Buckner

I'm with Ivory Rubin--Stuart Crouch renders further comments unnecessary--thanks, Mr. Crouch.

domenico nuckols

Great post Stuart!!!! The letter is another example of the LOSER president’s cult caring for no one except themselves. If any of the LOSER president’s cult are still alive in 2022, please vote the Democrats out.

Ted Gillis

“Truth”? Isn’t that the name of Donald Trumps new online messaging platform?

Gary Scoggin

Don’t you just love the irony?

Carlos Ponce

No irony here, Gary Scoggin. President Trump was truthful.But the Libtard Press projected a false image of him. And the weak minded accepted that weak image. Problem is the false portrayal continues. Take the AP report from last Tuesday:

"Then-President Donald Trump touched off a political firestorm when he failed to immediately denounce the white nationalists, saying there were 'very fine people on both sides'. ” Clearly false, easily disproven yet those of low intelligence said "Yup, yup, he failed to immediately denounce the white nationalists". Oh, yes, that was Joe Biden who repeated that false meme. But the fact checkers ignore when Joe lies, and lies, and lies, and lies.

Gary Scoggin

Speaking of low-intelligence, whatabout people that use the pejorative “libt***”?

Carlos Ponce

The word "Libtard" has been in use since the 1990s in the United States and the UK. It has occurred in popular culture often, even the animated series "Family Guy". It is defined as "a person with liberal political beliefs" and "A person who has been brainwashed by the educational system and the Media into thinking socialism is liberalism. "

Gary Scoggin

I can think of offensive terms that have been around much longer than that. But I guess if it as used on Family Guy it was okay. It’s good to know where your standards of politeness come from. I bet Jesus wold even use it, especially if Stewie said it first.

Carlos Ponce

I don't watch Family Guy so I do not know your references. Jesus used terms offensive in His day and culture.

“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean."

“It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.....”

"You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?"

Gary Scoggin

Since you don't watch family guy and you once said you didn't use Google, where did you get the reference then?

Carlos Ponce

I got the information off the internet, DUH! And there are search engines other than "Google". Google will sell your searches, your email, etc to the highest bidder. Duckduckgo will not.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, if you think any search engine does not use your information for profit, think again. They can say they do not because they sell cookies to a third party, which in turn sells the information.

DuckDuckGo talks about their privacy, but you can go into DuckDuckGo and if you know how, you will see tracking cookies in the site’s source code. They have targeted advertising, and they have two cookies on their site. Who is DuckDuckGo selling this information to? One is Google and the other is not clear who they are. DuckDuckGo is fine to use, but do not believe everything they say at face value.

When someone says they google something, what they are saying is they are going to look up information online, using a search engine One can google information on DuckDuckGo .

Carlos Ponce

"you will see tracking cookies in the site’s source code"

I don't see any in my list of cookies.

If you do, ELIMINATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Use a product like Superantispyware.

GooGoo goes overboard on selling information about you.

Now, don't GooGoo. You're too old for that nonsense.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, you are able to read source code? Below is an example of source code.

./lib/DDG/Goodie/Conversions.pm: content => 'DDH.conversions.content'

./lib/DDG/Goodie/Conversions.pm: content => 'DDH.conversions.content'

./lib/DDG/Goodie/Game2048.pm: content => 'DDH.game2048.content'

./lib/DDG/Goodie/PublicDNS.pm: list_content => 'DDH.public_dns.content',

./lib/DDG/Goodie/JsBeautifier.pm: content => 'DDH.js_beautifier.content'

./lib/DDG/Goodie/SassToCss.pm: content => 'DDH.sass_to_css.content'

./lib/DDG/Goodie/Constants.pm: title_content => 'DDH.constants.title_content

Carlos Ponce

I don't need to read source code. My web browser (Firefox) records cookies. The I can delete the ones I don't want recorded or delete all. NONE for Duckduckgo.

Jim Forsythe

DuckDuckGo uses Google as its in-house search engine.

The information sharing happens before a person can hit the delete button.

Also, think about how groups can recover information from a hard drive, that has had its information "deleted".

The information is never gone; it just hides, waiting to be revealed when the person with the key asks for it.

Carlos Ponce

"One can google information on DuckDuckGo ." That's an oxymoron.

Carlos Ponce

"DuckDuckGo uses Google as its in-house search engine." FALSE.

After a lawsuit Google had to add DuckDuckGo as a search engine alternative offered on Google Chrome. It is actually closer to Bing in results.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, if it makes you happy, continue using DDG. You do know that any place you go to for stories or shopping, may have tracking cookies.

The following is from John Algar who gives an easy way to check for cookies and such. When he says that remove cookies from your computer, he is not talking about source code. You do have your protection from malware, activated.

John Algar: From my own experience, it’s not as ‘anonymous’ as they say it is - unless, that is, one is supposed to use a specific ‘browser?

My main browser-of-choice is Firefox, and although I have used DuckDuckGo for several months, not only have I been ‘frustrated’ by the results of searches, but I have (and this is the more worrying aspect) been more concerned by discovering that despite DDG’s assurance that by using them, I would be protected “from Google, Facebook and other trackers, no matter where you go on the Internet”, it turned out that ‘cookies’ of indeterminate origin were being stored on my computer/device (an easy way for Firefox - with DDG installed - users to verify what I say, is to right click anywhere on the webpage being viewed, then from the drop-down menu, to select “View Page Info”.

Once a small window of the latter appears, one will see 4 ‘images’ at the top of it, the right-hand one of which, shows a padlock, with the word “Security” underneath. If one clicks on the ‘padlock’, it will open another ‘page’ on which the words “Web Site Security” are, although further down the page is the section you really need to examine, and that section is headed “Privacy & History”.

If you now look at what appears within that section, you will quickly discover whether you have ever visited the web site [any of its pages] before, and on how many occasions, as you will also discover whether the web site is storing information on your computer/device (e.g. cookies and site data). You will also discover whether you have saved any passwords for the web site.

If the web site you have visited states that it is saving both cookies AND site data (or just cookies) on your computer, and you don’t want the site to store any of those things, you have the option to delete all by clicking on the “Clear Cookies and Site Data” button. On the next ‘page’ that opens’, please read and understand what it states there before choosing to either “Remove” the said website(s) shown, or “Cancel” to leave the cookies and site data in place (NB. although several sites or just one might be mentioned on the specific “Remove” page, there’s no need to remove it or them one at a time, because clicking the “Remove” button removes all cookies and site data being stored on your computer by the respective web sites shown.

One further thing to mention is that after you have done the above to and for all of the web sites you have looked at, I would suggest that you then go to the DuckDuckGo home page, and repeat the above actions (from “View Page Info” onwards) on there as well, as you, like myself, will most likely discover that whilst DDG might not have stored information on your computer, it may well have stored cookies on it.

Carlos Ponce

"You do know that any place you go to for stories or shopping, may have tracking cookies.

Use SUPERANTISPYWARE.

Jim Forsythe

Calos, make sure you are also using a compatible antivirus package. If they are not compatible, they will work against each other.

SUPERAntiSpyware recommends that you run SUPERAntiSpyware alongside an antivirus package for complete protection. Why is this important, because when test were ran they returned worrying results, with six out of our 20 malicious files passing undetected (and these included a variant of the very well-known WannaCry.) If, as recommended, you're running SUPERAntiSpyware with a full antivirus package, then, hopefully, these will be trapped.

Carlos, make sure you have protection, as you do not want WannaCry or other malicious files that SUPERAntiSpyware did not detect.

Personally, I would not use SUPERAntiSpyware, as it is not one of the top rated.

Carlos Ponce

Then either block cookies or use a product you find is comfortable.

Bailey Jones

He stole the name from one of his friends. "Enquirer" was taken, so he settled on 'Pravda".

Gary Scoggin

Well played, Bailey. Well played.

George Laiacona

Tyranny? Mr Wilson has chosen the wrong word. He must have forgotten that back in January of 2020 theTrump character had the power to stop more than just the Muslims from entering America . He could have prevented the Chinese Virus from entering America. But he and the Republicans chose personal greed over protecting the American people from the virus. Apparently they failed to read about the 1918 pandemic. Over 700,000 Americans have unnecessarily lost their lives due to the Republicans greed. Then there is the stimulus package that not one Republican voted for as well as the rise in drug prices. Then there is January 6th when the Republican traitors decided to raid the Capital thinking it would destroy our democracy. Let’s face the truth the Republicans have failed the American people ever since they decided to put the Trump wannabe Dictator in charge of their party. The intelligent voters will not forget these actions taken against the lower classes of Americans. They will vote as they have previously, for Americans not the Republican traitors.

Carlos Ponce

George Laiacona is rewriting history again, replacing truth with Leftist propaganda.

Gary Scoggin

“Truth”. Don’t you just love the irony?

Bailey Jones

lol - tyranny

Carlos Ponce

Tyranny occurs when the powers that be set aside the laws and proclaim what is the "common good" to be in effect. That's what the Bidenites have done. It should be done only when martial law is declared.

Gary Scoggin

I personally think the vaccine mandate goes too far and it’s an over-reach of OSHA’s emergency powers. The mandates for employers that receive government money, including health care providers such as UTMB are likely on more solid ground. That’s what courts are for, to settle this.

In the meantime, I have no problems with private employers requiring vaccination or very frequent testing for its employees.

Gary Miller

I learned this week that November 8 may be a bigger day than expected. The GOP has learned California may be Redder than thought. They have registered 1.5 million Republicans this year that have never voted but want a chance to reverse the rot of California. Expect some surprises "down ballot" this year.

Dalton Logan

Over $5.00 gal. for fuel out in Calf. may play an important part in a red wave everywhere.

Jim Forsythe

Dalton what's your point? Gasoline prices over $5.00 per gallon were displayed at a Shell station June 23, 2008 in San Mateo, California. California always has high prices compared to Texas.

Gas in our area is going down in price. Yesterday I saw it for $2.89 at a major and $2.79 at an off-brand station.

We will continue to see gas prices go up and down in price, but at this time, they are going down.

Why is going down; because cost of crude is going down. U.S. oil is now down more than $15 since its October high of $85.41, and is selling for $68.15 per barrel.

If Covid19 forces more people to be confined to home worldwide, the price of crude will continue down.

Carlos Ponce

Since the Biden administration is set to increase fees on drilling on Federal lands and offshore leases expect prices to rise. Crude oil doesn't just go to fuel production as you well know. Does inflation hurt the wealthy? Not as much as the middle and low income class.

Gary Scoggin

Oil prices flex on worldwide supply and demand. OPEC can do more to affect oil prices in a day than any President can do in an administration.

Jim Forsythe

The Biden administration has approved 3,091 new drilling permits on public lands at a rate of 332 per month, a faster pace than the Trump administration’s 300 permits per month. The administration recently opened more than 80 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico to auction for oil and gas drilling, a record offshore sale

Nothing has passed the House and the senate as far as an increase in fees. The Interior Department on Friday recommended that the federal government raise the fees that oil and gas companies pay to drill on public lands — the first possible increase in those rent and royalty rates since 1920.

Carlos Ponce

So Gary Scoggin doesn't think Biden's decisions affect the price. [rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

They sought those oil leases BEFORE the rate on leasing went up. No problem for them but for us when the oil companies recoup by increasing costs to consumers. Once again, the middle class and lower get ...........ed.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, this fee if passed, how much will the fee add to the price of a barrel of oil in the future?

Carlos Ponce

Department of Interior reports the Biden Regime is planning on increasing the lease fees to 18.75%.

Look for an increase on the cost per barrel.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, before making a big deal out of increase in cost, one needs to know how much the raise may be.

A raise of onshore oil and gas drilling royalty rates from 12.5% to 18.75% and offshore rates at 14%.

The proposed rate is about the same as the rate that is paid now for state or private lands.

The effect on production could be “negligible” over 10 years if royalty rates increased to 18.75 percent, particularly if the increased federal royalty rate remained equal to or below the royalty rates for production on state or private lands.

Jim Forsythe

As Gary said, OPEC can do more to affect oil prices in a day than any President can do in an administration.

Carlos Ponce

If Jim has enough to throw away just to satisfy his Liberal masters that's his business, his money. But for the rest of the United States, we don't to succumb to a political party's Socialist nonsense.

Carlos Ponce

"OPEC can do more to affect oil prices in a day than any President can do in an administration."

That rates FIVE piles of Bullschiff.

Carlos Ponce

OPEC, OPEC, OPEC[angry]

President Trump FREED us from OPEC's influence. OPEC has steered our foreign policy for decades.... WHY WHEN YOU CAN [thumbdown] OPEC?

Now Jim and Gary tells us OPEC controls our oil costs...... AGAIN!

RETURN TO OIL INDEPENDENCE. GET RID OF THOSE DEMOCRATS WHO ARE PUPPETS OF OPEC!

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, it’s a little early in the day to start drinking.

Carlos Ponce

Gary, the only thing I drank was a glass of hot chocolate.

But it's not too early to start THINKING!

President Trump removed the shackles of OPEC, Pende Joe put them back on.

Gary Miller

Jim> Oil going down? Yes domestic producers are moving rigs back to private lands where King Biden has no influence or power.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, we have not been away from OPEC influence for a long time.

Carlos, if OPEC blocked all crude sells to the USA, what would the price of crude in the USA be?

Carlos, which is worse for the USA, $20 a barrel crude or $80 a barrel crude?

Carlos, what country has the lowest breakeven cost for producing crude oil?

Carlos, is the breakeven price the same for all crude produced in the USA?

Carlos, why did the USA import 298.2 million barrels of crude in 2020 from OPEC?

Carlos, what is the target price for crude, to have a balance price that all can live with, between the producers and the buyers of crude?

Carlos, these are basic question that have complex answers. If you cannot answer these questions, that answer why you do not grasp how the price of crude depends on OPEC.

If you have question about how we are tied to OPEC and rely on OPEC, ask for help to understand how this relationship works.

Jim Forsythe

Gary as you stated, President Biden has little influence on the price of crude.

As we have more rigs coming on line, the price of crude will come back to normal.

Carlos Ponce

Sounds like Jim Forsythe is a spokesman for OPEC.

In the short time President Trump moved us away from OPEC, pump prices went DOWN. The US was OIL INDEPENDENT.

Our foreign policy was not influenced by the oil producers of the Middle East.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, why did the USA import 298.2 million barrels of crude in 2020 from OPEC?

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, why did the USA import from OPEC?"

DUH! Everyone knows THAT answer!

The USA did NOT purchase 298.2 million barrels of crude in 2020.

American oil companies did.

Why? They formed what are called CONTRACTS YEARS before need to lock in a good price. They did not anticipate an intelligent president to be in office in 2020. Everyone expected idiot Hillary to be there.

I guess you never heard of OIL FUTURES.

"Oil futures are contracts in which traders agree to take the delivery of the crude oil on a fixed date in exchange for a set price of the contract. Oil futures are traded similar to other futures contracts in the stock exchange, and the position could be sold out at any time before the expiry date of the contract. If it remains unsold, then the buyer of the contract has to take the delivery of the crude oil."

Gary Miller

$7 a gallon will help.

Cary Semar

I just waded through all 22 pages of Fifth Circuit order No. 21-60845 . It says the vaccine mandate was over inclusive and under inclusive at the same time. It says that previous public statements by OSHA officials and the president contradict the claims in the Emergency Temporary Standard and it even demands to know why "they were against it before they were for it."

The court does not seem to think that covid-19 is an emergency. The court points out that if it were an emergency, it would apply to all employers, not just those with more than 100 employees.

While the court's reasoning sounds specious to me, the vaccine mandate may not pass judicial review. However, attempting to promulgate a flawed rule for work place safety does not make Joe Biden a tyrant.

Joe Biden is not a tyrant and he does not want to be a tyrant. That was the other guy, the one who only accepts election results if he wins.

Carlos Ponce

"Joe Biden is not a tyrant " Funny.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

From day 1 he has disregarded the oath, the Constitution, the statutes and judicial decrees.

Cary Semar

you lie.

Carlos Ponce

I do not lie.

Carol Dean

Prove to us, Lefty (Cary Semar) that Carlos comes anywhere close to lying. Talk is cheap coming from people like you sitting behind a keyboard.

Charles Douglas

These Radicals are out today! What is it? Is it because it is a little brisk outside? Maybe it is because they have a Brain-Dead, RACIST, African-American hating, KKK affiliated Fool, & Loser sitting in a FAKE OVAL OFFICE, trying to lead the free world? Here we got a man who takes an SUV and runs over a bunch of innocent Americans including children, and these Radicals want to politicize it! Three men heads off a jogger, in Georgia, and kills him for nothing, and the Radicals politicize that too! Justice is JUSTICE! No need to politicize it! Stop putting BLACK Radical Surrogotes on TV calling everything RACISTS would help! It is SIC-NY-FYING ..& ...DESPICABLE!!!!!!!

Gas prices, home prices, food prices, are off the chart, and inflation is at a 30 year high and instead of laying the blame on the Fake RACIST, KKK loving idiot in a FAKE OVAL OFFICE located in DC waiting for Obama's next order, they see their way to blame it on TRUMP! Lie all you want gentlemen, because the fire for y'all defeat and demiss was lit in Virginia a few weeks ago, and this country will be under new leadership starting next November,.....what's LEFT of it,...If the Illegals, Rapists, Terrorists, and Drug Runners, Joe China and the Radicals are openingly allowing to flood into this country uncontested don't takeover first! The Radicals want to destroy this nation as a democracy and make it like Red China, by destroying the Constitution and taking our freedoms away! Whoever heard of anyone forcing a free man In a free country to take a shot?

So, until next election, feel free to keep lying on TRUMP in order to soothe your emotions if that is what it requires to forget who y'all were hoodwinked into voting for! Until then keep paying for that 5 dollar gas at the pump, courtesy of Captain Cut-N-Run!

I can see making a mistake on one choice, but how could ANYBODY, vote for Joe China AND Cackling Kamala Harris?? Then, Buttigrieg?? Really? What about this pathetic Secretary of Defense who is purging the Military of Conservatives, instilling CRT into the Academic Military Curriculum while China and Russia are getting prepared to run the World and Out Of Space! Yeah we are being lead by some real winners!

Carol Dean

Good stuff!

Carol Dean

FEAR mongering has been the largest spreader of Covid. Don't like the sad state that we are in economically, socially, healthwise, etc.? Blame the dems, biden, and the media. They are ALL of "lower case" intel., spreaders of lies, and fear mongoring, with a total lack of decency.

Gary Scoggin

Respectfully, the biggest spreaders of Covid have been those that refuse to believe the science.

Carol Dean

Gary Scoggin, the REAL Science will tell you that there is no need to ever even "come down" with the Wu/Flu and that there are MANY, cost affordable meds that can save your life if one becomes affected. Why do you think Fauci and Big Pharma want you to follow The Fake News!?! Yes, covid does exist, but there was NEVER any reason that the world should have endured the preventable attacks and remedies. America's Frontline Doctors!!! Educate yourself. How many "boosters" are you willing to expose yourself to?

Gary Scoggin

I prefer to get my real science from real scientists. People with advanced degrees that have been researching these things for decades.

Not from the OAN/Tucker/Newsmax cabal and the others that are making money while making people sick.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin, Tucker Carlson has REAL SCIENTISTS on his program, not over paid bureaucrats with a degree, an agenda and no common sense.

Walter Dannenmaier

I love the responses to letters about national politics in this paper. Whatever side they are on, the responses all seem to qualify for the "Angriest Drunken Guy in a Bar" contest.

Gary Scoggin

Of which I have to nominate Charles for Angriest and Carlos for Drunkest.

Carlos Ponce

Since I rarely drink, only one margarita per year, Gary Scoggin is lying.

Charles Douglas

In addition, " A false Witness shall not go unpunished, and he who speaketh LIES shall not excape.".....Proverbs 19:5.

I find when Radicals don't have rebuttals to the truth ...their next step is always name-calling! They bail lawless criminals & looters out of jail, or allow them to go out with NO-BAIL at all to commit more crimes on Old Women and kids and then sleep like " Un-aborted" babies at night! How different they treat law abiding citizen with respect for the law, and law enforcers who they want to DEFUND & DISMANTLE in this country!

They even weaponized the Justice Department and the FBI, and sic them on parents of School Children who do not want their children to hate their peers, thinking and being told they are White Supremacists, because they were born WHITE! They then want to teach African-American kids, because they were born BLACK, they are inferior, and need help, ...because they can't cut it! I grew up around this BS, all my life, and I do know what I am talking about!

I walked through enough Back Doors to know! If I am angry, it is becuase I see a once Great Nation being stepped, on and torn apart by a bunch of power hungry individuals who care nothing about it, and want to destroy it by Race-Hustling, and using African-Americans, and Hispanics to keep them in power ....using Socialist policies, to keep them in their places!

Gary Scoggin

"Since I rarely drink, only one margarita per year, Gary Scoggin is lying." -- Having read many of your posts, you could have fooled me.

Carlos Ponce

And, pray tell, point to ANY post where you think I was inebriated......So when someone posts something Gary Scoggin doesn't like he assumes you are drunk. That reveals a lot about YOU.

Cary Semar

One margarita a year? Therein lies the problem. It takes more than one to contemplate the big questions in life. Chill out man!

Carlos Ponce

I will drink what I want. You do the same.

Gary Scoggin

“And, pray tell, point to ANY post where you think I was inebriated”. Well to start with, the “libt***” post above. Why can’t you admit you used an offensive term, apologize and move on?

Carlos Ponce

Is the word offensive to you? It must have hit home.

Gary Scoggin

The word is offensive to me because, having raised a physically handicapped son, I am sensitive to terms that degrade any handicapped person, mentally or physically. Obviously, you don’t have those concerns as you use a derivative of a pejorative word for the mentally handicapped as an insult for people with different political views. What a great role model you must have been for the children of Hitchcock. Did you call the less capable ones ret****s? Maybe just not to their faces, huh? You claim to be a Christian but you sure don’t act like it. Convince me otherwise. Or are you too petty to apologize to those you may have offended?

Carlos Ponce

I was a teacher for 32 years who taught special needs students, some with physical limitations. Libtard has NOTHING to do with them. Why are you applying it to them?????

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, I don’t know whether to feel anger or pity towards you. For many mentally handicapped people being referred to as a ret*** is analogous to referring to a Black person as a n*****. When you use the term lib**** you are saying that people of that political persuasion are ret***** and doing so in a very offensive way. It’s not always directly offensive to the liberals but it is offensive to a group you claim to respect. I don’t see how you don’t understand this. And you use Family Guy - which you’ve never watched - as a justification?

After all of this, I am not angry but you do have my pity. I pity you because your insecurities prevent you from admitting mistakes and make you, at time, a very cruel and uncaring person. All of us who come here for rational discussion of the topics of the day are forced to put up with the products of your insecurities.

Personally, I plan to just ignore you from here on. Except of course when you are blatantly offensive or when you post obviously incorrect information. In the latter case my replies will be aimed at providing the reasonable people who come here accurate analysis of what you have said incorrectly.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin posts: "For many mentally handicapped people being referred to as a ret*** is analogous to referring to a Black person as a n*****."

Since I used NEITHER, looks like Gary Scoggin has been hoisted by his own petard.

Carlos Ponce

Let me explain to the ignorant. LIBTARD is a condensing of the phrase "Liberals hoisted by their own pitard".

Hoisted by one's own petard is defined by Merriam - Webster (the Libtard's favorite) as "victimized or hurt by one's own scheme".

It is analogous to BACKFIRE or the BOOMERANG EFFECT or THE TABLES ARE TURNED as most of Liberal's schemes often do.

Gary Scoggin

This is directed to the reasonable people out there….

At

https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/libtard/

you can find the etymology of the term (no where in there is there a reference to being hoisted on your own petard). Look it up and be the judge as to whether or not you deem this offensive.

Carlos Ponce

This is Gary Scoggin's provided definition: "Libtard is an insult usually used by conservative trolls online to characterize liberals as stupid."

I'd say that Liberals hoisted by their own petard fits that perfectly except for the "troll" part.

Gary Scoggin

For the resonable people, to avoid any ambiguity on my previous post.... from the website....

"Libtard is a blend of the word liberal and the slur retard and is the result of the political polarization that has divided the United States since at least the 1990s."

Further

"As Rex Huppke pointed out, the real problem with the word libtard, as opposed to its cousins like snowflake, is that it makes fun of political opponents at the expense of persons with developmental disabilities. Insulting someone’s politics is one thing, but mocking disabilities is another."

Carlos Ponce

GASP! Gary Scoggin used the word "reta*d"! We should not tolerate that!

Bailey Jones

I'm with Walter.

Ed Buckner

I've heard or read the term "libtard" used hundreds of times by right-wing ideologues (not generally by reasonable conservatives, who tend to recognize that insulting slurs against progressives OR people with mental disabilities is counterproductive to winning arguments).

In context, every time I've heard or read the term it is plainly meant to be an insulting slur. Disagreeing with Jones or me or Scoggins, et al., is fine. Pointless insults, parallel to Trump making fun of a handicapped reporter -- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter_n_5b4f9e23e4b0860924770c24 -- should be beneath any decent American.

Bailey Jones

Ed, libtard is one of those great self-identifiers used by some on the right. It means basically the same as thing as "I saw on Tucker Carlson...." or "Alex Jones said..."

In other words, it connotes ignorance - and a lack of the type of self awareness that keeps ignorance from turning into pigheadedness.

Personally, I appreciate its use in comments - it saves me a lot of wasted keystrokes, because what is the use of interacting with morons?

Now, having baited the hook, we sit back and wait for my Personal Stalker to come along and prove my point.

Carol Dean

Big Jim, such a "Little Mind" you have.

Carol Dean

Gary Scoggin, remember also, that Jesus turned over the tables of the Tax collectors.

Gary Scoggin

But he never made fun of handicapped people like you did. Instead, he had compassion for them.

Carol Dean

Jim Forsyth..."Keep Talking". You are No match for Carlos.

Carol Dean

Gary Scoggin, the REAL Scientists and Researchers are the one that the Fake Media keeps blocking. How would the WHO, Big Pharma, Fauci and the Liars make any money if the Truth flowed as freely as the lies?

Carol Dean

Gary Scoggin, we should all Pity You for your limited thought process and your need to feel that You are better then others. It would serve you and others to "lighten up" a little.

Gary Scoggin

I don’t lighten up when it comes to people insulting the handicapped.

Carlos Ponce

I don't either, Gary Scoggin.

Gary Miller

All handicapped do not deserve exclusion from derision.

Carol Dean

Since no one “insulted” the handicapped, I guess you are choosing to make up your own definitions. Go ahead and be a “Bah, Humbug”, “‘Tis the Season “.

Ron Shelby

Tyranny??? LOL. Not quite.

Carol Dean

Carlos, in regard to Scoggin, that's why I said "Keep Talking". "Given enough rope, they usually hang themselves".

domenico nuckols

Yea you right here Carlos is drunk

Carlos Ponce

domenico is a LIAR, since I have never been drunk in my life.

Charles Douglas

Ohhhhh the price one has to pay for being one of the best of all times! Michael Jordan had to deal with it ..coming from young upstarts who wanted to knock him off the top, and so did Tiger Woods & A.J. Foyt!

I have had a sideline seat on this forum for years, and watched them come, and I have watched them leave, but none could take Carlos Ponce OUT!!!! None!!!!!! He is smart, astute, articulate, intelligent, educated, well informed on the issues, and above all else he is Pro America & a Christian! I would be lying if I said I did not look forward to reading his take on the issues plaguing this great country in today's SICK, WOKE environment! He does not pull any punches, or "party protect" like the LEFT is so great at doing! Joe China, Pelosi, Harris, Schumer, and Hunter Biden, are tearing this nation apart and all the LEFT ...can think to do is to protect them, while excoriating, and censoring anyone who protest against what they do!

Naw! I am an American! America, has been good to me and my family, and RED CHINA, YEAH...RED CHINA , has not done anything for me, as they must have done for their Thousands of American Surrogates here! So my allegiance is, and always will be with America! Mr. Ponce is for God, Family, and Country, ( America ).. and his posts reflects that!

I love Americans who are FOR AMERICA AND AMERICANS, BEING FIRST AND NOT LAST! I am so happy that there are many of those types on this forum, and in this nation.....men and women! Mr. Ponce is just one of many still speaking up for America! To all of you I say thank you for your on time patriotism to a worthy and great America!

PS. I heard that over in Iran, where countries are gathering to discuss the Neclear Agreement everybody is trying to get Iran to agree to, the IRANIANS told American Representatives ...to STAY OUT OF THE MEETING! They told BIDEN'S people to set in the Hallway and maybe they would send somebody out to tell them what was going on. What disrespect! Even Iran has lifted up their heel and placed it on the necks of the Radicals who are running DC! This is what turning tails, and Cut-N- Running out if Afghanistan, leaving behind thousands of Americans will get You! Disrespect, and Humiliation!

Carol Dean

Carlos Ponce is the most informed individual on this site. Everyone else has been Double matched! I nominate Carlos for the Galveston County Patriot of the Year! " Eat your hearts out, 'Libtards'"!

Ed Buckner

Well, it's pretty obvious who can compete for least informed individual on site. i nominate Carol Dean for Galveston County Misundereducated Citizen of the Year. Eat your hearts out, absolutely no one.

Gary Scoggin

Carol -- I'm sure you're very proud of insulting the mentally handicapped individuals in our community.

Carlos Ponce

(pssst.... Gary Scoggin is the only forum poster to use the word [reta*d] in one of his posts!)

Carol Dean

Show me, Gary where I insulted the "handicapped", mentally or physically. I was the mother of a severely handicapped child. In case you care, her name was Taylor Alexis. She is no longer alive, but will always live in my heart. Since you and Ed Buckner seem so self -rightous, you might want to think about casting stones before you sling them. You two are really the ones who should be pitied.

I have no desire to continue "Arguing with Idiots", (One of Glenn Beck's best sellers.

Ta Ta. Merry Christmas!

Gary Scoggin

Carl…. I consider “libt***” an insult towards the mentally handicapped for the reasons outlined above. No need in discussing it further in that you and the troll that I pity refuse to acknowledge the obvious.

I am sorry to hear about Taylor Alexis. I can relate more than most as our son John passed away a little over a year ago. I miss him every single day. Losing a child is an experience I wish upon no one.

Merry Christmas to you as well, although they aren’t the same as they used to be.

Carlos Ponce

So Gary Scoggin is informing us the handicapped have been hoisted by their own petard.... after working with the handicapped I must strongly disagree.

Ed Buckner

Carol Dean: "Show me, Gary where I insulted the "handicapped", mentally or physically. I was the mother of a severely handicapped child. In case you care, her name was Taylor Alexis. She is no longer alive, but will always live in my heart. Since you and Ed Buckner seem so self -rightous, you might want to think about casting stones before you sling them. You two are really the ones who should be pitied.

I have no desire to continue "Arguing with Idiots", (One of Glenn Beck's best sellers.

Ta Ta. Merry Christmas!"

To which I say:

1. The death of a child is the worst pain I can imagine (and luckily for me, so far I can only imagine it). My profound sympathy over the death of Taylor Alexis.

2. No one should make fun of the handicaps of others. By all means criticize people, even those who have disabilities, about things they say or do--but don't mock their handicaps.

3. Calling people "libtards" is--invariably in my experience--an exercise in snide insinuation of mental retardation. No one should have to be quiet about positions s/he disagrees with.

Happy holidays! (As an atheist, I don't say "Merry Christmas"--but I'm not offended when other do.)

Carlos Ponce

"Calling people 'libtards' is--invariably in my experience--an exercise in snide insinuation of mental reta*dation."

Ohhhh.......so it is your "experience". In other words, it's only in your mind. Sounds like a personal problem.

And excuse me for editing your actual post. It seems only you and Gary Scoggin are comfortable typing out that "r" word. I don't know about your Georgia but in Texas we don't use that slur, or should not. May GOD bless your poor little heart!

Gary Scoggin

Ed, save your electrons. The troll from unicorporated Galveston County channels his self hatred in a way that he cannot find fault with himself. That is why I pity him. It's not worthy of your time, my time or any other reasonable person's time to try to have a discussion with him as he is incapable of self reflection and learning through conversation. His sad attitude and low self-esteem forces him to treat every interaction as a jousting match where he has to get the better of people he percieves to be his rivals. His actions continually poison any chance for meaningful discussion on this forum. I guess its a case of "If you can't be right, be loud."

That's why any reponse to him by me is an effort to speak to reasonable people, not the troll himself. There are some others here that share similar worldviews as this person but at least are willing to post facts and to have discussions. I disagree with them profoundly in many areas, and at times I have crossed a line that I wished I hadn't but I respect them for having the courage of their convictions. (David Hardee is a good example.) The troll has neither courage nor, as far as I can tell, real convictions other than a worship of a narcisist and a propensity to follow YouTube preachers who make little of what the Bible makes so much of and much about what the Bible makes so little of.

I would like to just ignore him in the future but he represents a strain of thought that is dangerous for our Nation so I am occasionally compelled to respond to his remarks (not to him).

I'm sure he'll respond here as he rarely allows anyone to have the last word. That's one of his tactics. But I'm sure his response will be superficial (Gary Scoggin lies!, BOO!, So Gary Scoggin believes...., etc.) and not substantive.

Happy Hannukuh to my Jewish friends, Merry Christmas to all who observe it (which includes me) and Happy Holidays to everyone.

Carlos Ponce

Poor Gary Scoggin, can't look himself in the mirror and admit he used the "r" slur.

Gary Scoggin

Did I call that or not! He is so predictable! :=)

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin, consider me your Jiminy Cricket.

Ed Buckner

Gary Scoggin, [thumbup]

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is exactly what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn

Jim Forsythe

In the original Adventures of Pinocchio, Pinocchio kills Jiminy Cricket.

Jim Forsythe

Remember when Pinocchio learns that Geppetto was swallowed by a whale. Pinocchio sprang into action as there is no question of what he should do next — he's got to save his father. Meanwhile, Jiminy takes a rather cowardly turn, trying to talk Pinocchio out of it.

Carlos Ponce

In the original , "The Adventures of Pinochio", Pinocchio kills "il Grillo Parlante-the talking cricket" who comes back as a ghost and keeps advising Pinocchio.

Carlos Ponce

"Jiminy takes a rather cowardly turn, trying to talk Pinocchio out of it."

That's your interpretation. The Blue Fairy asked Jiminy Cricket if he would be Pinocchio's conscience, " Lord high keeper of the knowledge of right and wrong. counselor in moments of temptation and guide along the straight and narrow path." She then tells Pinocchio to "Be a good boy, and let your conscience be your guide."

Charles Douglas

Ms. Dean you are the one!!! Yes you are! You are my kind of American! You believe like Mr. Ponce and many others on this forum in a government formed by Meritocracy and not by Race, or a sexual preference! If we are going to go like that we don't need schools or colleges! A raving fool can go to DC and turn the country over to China, Illegals, and Street Criminals! That is just what the RADICALS have done!

Buttigrieg knows ZERO about his job!

Kamala Harris don't know anything and neither do Joe China! He has banned, or blocked 6-8 African Nations from traveling to this country because of a virus! This is the same racist idiot who called Trump names for doing the SAME THING! This is the kind of inconsistency we see all over DC and this nation now! The rules are for thee, and NOT FOR ME! That man called Trump a Xenophobic RACIST for doing the SAME THING he just did! I won't even say he is wrong for doing it, but he is an UNQUALIFIED IDIOT RACIST HIPPOCRITE for lying and being dishonest saying Trump was out of line for taking the same actions earlier!

When I grow up I want to be JUST like Ponce and Hardee! JUST LIKE THEM! They are highly articulate, educated, know what they are talking about and they DON'T RACE HUSTLE!!!! They don't talk about SLAVES every mili- second trying to stir up African-Americans and Hispanics to riot ..tearing down statues, and while they laugh behind our backs like Radicals do continuously! Many minorities like myself are playing the Harriet Tubman Card! Others are beginning to look at what we are complaining about!!!!!!! That is bad news for the LEFT!!!!!

Emman Sull

Well said Charles, well said!

Bailey Jones

Now, this is genuinely hilarious. And I agree - no one embodies the county's clown car conservative spirit like Carlos Ponce. He is certainly "informed". When I think "Patriot", the first image that comes to mind is always the Q-Anon Shaman on the floor of a desecrated Capitol, howling like a banshee. The second image that always comes to mind is Carlos Ponce. (I don't know what Carlos looks like so I just imagine the Pillsbury Doughboy in a MAGA hat.)

Gary Miller

Carol> I dispute your choice. Carlos is ahigh candidate but I nominate Charles Dougles for the position.

Bailey Jones

Gary, it doesn't have to be a contest - you, Carol, Carlos, and Charles all perfectly represent the modern Republican Party, IMHO. I'd throw in David H, but he doesn't quite toe the line when it comes to overthrowing the legitimately elected government of the US.

Carol Dean

Ed Buckner...Keep Talking! LOL!

Ed Buckner

As requested: This just in: CD easy winner of the GCMCOTY 2021; expected winner for 2022 as well. (Ask again for more and I'll think of more--this is easy.)

Ed Buckner

If anyone--ANYONE--has any doubt about the ignorance/misinformed status of CD, just let me know. I can easily provide easy questions that she cannot answer even though answers are readily available--and on subjects she'd probably claim knowledge of, too.

Carol Dean

Like I said, Ed...Keep Talking! LOL!

Ed Buckner

Man I like these open-ended invitations. Carol (could be a guy's name but probably not) Dean is sooooo misinformed that s/he cannot answer easy questions like these--

1. What does the Bible say about human slavery?

2. What does the Bible say about abortion?

3. Is Denmark socialist?

4. Did Trump win the 2020 Presidential election?

After s/he blows these, i'll come up with some more. That GCMCOTY award is spot on!

Ed Buckner

Gary Miller, "All handicapped do not deserve exclusion from derision." Most if not all do not deserve derision for the handicap. When Trump mocked the reporter for his handicap, it may well have been appropriate to question or even mock his reporting--but not his physical disability. Agree?

Carlos Ponce

"When Trump mocked the reporter for his handicap"

That did not happen, Ed Buckner.

Did Donald Trump mock a handicapped man? Yes, he did.

Did Donald Trump mock Washington Post reporter Serge Kovaleski's handicap? No he did not.

Serge Kovaleski was mocked for forgetting he had reported that Jersey City police were questioning people who celebrated the 911 attacks on rooftops:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2001/09/18/northern-new-jersey-draws-probers-eyes/40f82ea4-e015-4d6e-a87e-93aa433fafdc/

"In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river."

Ed Buckner

As has happened many, many times before, Carlos Ponce does not know what he is talking about, is blind to what is plainly shown in published videos (like the one Carlos himself posted showing the shooting of Ashli Babbitt). Like millions of others, i've seen the unedited video of Donald Trump exaggeratedly moving in a way to mock the reporter's handicap--not just rebut the reporter's word.

More to the point, Carlos Ponce has invited the following comment (if he invites it again, I'll post it again)--

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is *exactly* what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Carlos Ponce

Poor Ed Buckner is having difficulty comprehending. Allow me to repeat:

Did Donald Trump mock a handicapped man? Yes, he did.

Did Donald Trump mock Washington Post reporter Serge Kovaleski's handicap? No he did not.

Your link simply states "Now Playing: Donald Trump Mocks Disabled Reporter" which is what I posted. But there is no video there. No proof that he mocked the man's disability as you stated.

Here's some links for you:

"100% ‘proof’ Donald Trump did NOT mock a reporter with a disability"

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/09/01/100-proof-donald-trump-not-mock-reporter-disability-385572/

"IT WAS FAKE NEWS: Trump did not mock a person with a disability "

https://www.thedisabilitypatriot.com/blog/it-was-fake-news-trump-did-not-mock-a-person-with-a-disability

"PROOF that Donald Trump did NOT mock a disabled reporter s disability"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgaC0leEb68

Ed Buckner

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter_n_5b4f9e23e4b0860924770c24

Watch and learn--though only if you have eyes to see.

As has happened many, many times before, Carlos Ponce does not know what he is talking about, is blind to what is plainly shown in published videos (like the one Carlos himself posted showing the shooting of Ashli Babbitt). Like millions of others, i've seen the unedited video of Donald Trump exaggeratedly moving in a way to mock the reporter's handicap--not just rebut the reporter's word.

More to the point, Carlos Ponce has invited the following comment (if he invites it again, I'll post it again)--

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is *exactly* what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Gary Scoggin

Ed…. The guy you are conversing with has such low self esteem that he has to worship a narcissist and defend him at every turn. He hasn’t the self awareness to admit to himself that he has slurred handicapped people everywhere and must justify his behavior based on the similar actions of the narcissist that he worships. That’s why he has my pity. Imagine going through life thinking as little of yourself as he does.

Carlos Ponce

Poor Gary. He won't admit it was HE who used the slur that offends him, not anyone else. So sad.[sad]

Ed Buckner

Agree, Mr. Scoggin. Agree.

Ed Buckner

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-mocks-disabled-reporter_n_5b4f9e23e4b0860924770c24

Carlos Ponce

I click on the entire page and...... NOTHING.

Ed Buckner

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn

Emman Sull

Yes, the Democrats will pay in November and I can't wait! Get involved now, support America first politicians and those Trump endorses. Time to cut the Democrat cancer out for decades to come.

Carlos Ponce

BOO!

Ed Buckner

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is exactly what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Carlos Ponce

Watch me control the simple minded, AGAIN! I command Ed Buckner to post again!

Come on, Puppet Ed, your string has been pulled!!!!!

Ed Buckner

No one knows why The Ponceietta wants it posted, again, about his status as a Satanist, but he does--

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is exactly what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Carlos Ponce

Atheists are Satan's pawns.

Gary Scoggin

Satan often uses well-intentioned but mis-guided Christians as his pawns as well. In that light, perhaps people should look at what self-professed "prophets" they follow. Remember one of the lessons from Jesus' forty days in the wilderness: Even the Devil quotes scripture.

Carlos Ponce

That's why true Christians must pray for the gift of discernment.

Ed Buckner

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn

Carlos Ponce

Idiots don't understand that mocking a person with disabilities is not the same thing as mocking the person's disability. Are you an idiot, Ed? Oh, your posts answer for you!

Ed Buckner

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn

Ed Buckner

As the real puller of strings, let me be clear: Carlos Ponce is now directed to, once again, beg for his status as grifter/Satanist/etc. be again declared. Go, Ponce--set me up for the post.

Carlos Ponce

BOO!

Ed Buckner

No one knows why The Ponceietta wants it posted, again, about his status as a Satanist, but he does--

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is exactly what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Gary Scoggin

Ed. I noticed a very thoughtful and well stated reply to this post. That person is so articulate! How could one not be dazzled by his brilliance. Or maturity.

Carlos Ponce

BOO!

Ed Buckner

No one knows why The Ponceietta wants it posted, again, about his status as a Satanist, but he does--

Here is what I will post *every* time Carlos Ponce directs any comment my way. Ponce is not an honest disagreeing interlocutor, he is a disreputable flinger of manure, monkey-in-the-zoo style. There is no way to know what he really thinks or believes, whether he is (as appears to be true) a self-admitted Satanist or a devout Christian, a conservative or merely a grifter seeking attention no matter what, because he is wholly unreliable—the very definition of an unreliable witness, as willing to bring false “facts” and misinformation to a post as to be accurate or meaningful. (If he somehow musters up the wisdom to simply ignore me, I affirm that I will return the favor.) Every single time he mentions my name or posts about a comment I make, these paragraphs will appear below his—and since he is now on notice that this will happen, we can be sure that that is exactly what he wants.

Let me add for any others who may read this: I’m fine with—in fact usually enjoy—debate, give-and-take, discussion with folks with whom I disagree. Disagreement is not a problem for me. But anyone who wants discussion needs to focus on actual disagreements and treat me as someone who can be trusted to speak the truth (especially about what I think), not as an enemy. And anyone who does that will, I pledge, get the same from me.

Ed Buckner

Only for those with eyes to see-- https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2015/11/26/donald-trump-mocks-reporter-with-disability-berman-sot-ac.cnn

domenico nuckols

Put LOSER Trump where he belongs....Rikers Island!!!!

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