This insanity in Washington is being driven by the disgruntled Democrats in the House of Representatives and the deep state bad actors aiming to do one thing.

Even in the face of a great economy, lowered taxes, greater preservation of US sovereignty, progress on trade fairness, low unemployment and general prosperity the progressive, anti-American Democrats want to negate the 2016 election results.

They want President Trump out of office so badly that they're willing to sacrifice America.

My comment to the left is: You can't have my country to turn into a global dump for your ignorant fiddling.

Those of us that believe in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the sovereignty of our United States of America are up for this fight. Bring it.

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Gary Miller

It's strange what progressives get angry about. 7 million good jobs, 7 million free of food stamp addiction, millions up from poverty, record low unemployment, record high work force, increased earnings. Most of us think these are good but each angers progressives because they are losing control of millions. If citizens are happy progressives are unhappy.

Gary Miller

Pelosi can count. She couldn't count enough votes to follow procedures of previous Impeachment policies. A full house roll call vote to start an impeachment inquiry. Plan "B" ignore established policies. Ignore the rights of 435 members of the house. Ignore the rights of a legally elected President. She declared she is the dictator of congress. Will she declare Trump is impeached without a vote?

David Hardee

Mr. Christies’s short, direct, curt article sums the exact why and what the Democratic Party intends. Before the 2016 election a conspiracy was underway to corrupt the results. Even their competing Democrat opponent Bernie Sanders was targeted with deception. And the deep state agency hierarchy of the FBI orchestrated a vendetta that for 3 years has badgered the society with false accusations. When that vendetta failed the Democratic controlled house of representative took up the badgering with fallacious accusation seeing impeachment. These demented Democrats have put the country into a bloodless civil war. A war that will expose the corrupt swamp creatures and we must drain.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Hardee> You very well could be right about Democrats not agreeing with their leaders. In full disclosure, I use to be a Democrat, yeah ...I use to be on that "FARM" or under that "TENT." I found it to be very limiting there, and was kept there for years, by the use of fear of what the future would bring rather than focusing controlling elements of life which would produce the future I desired! That cannot be done by standing on the sidelines of life. You have to get in the game! Nobody gave Tom Brady, six World Championships. He was in the game, because he worked hard, and was a tough competitor, and a producer! When I realized those three essential things of success, I began to ascertain measures of success I thought were out of my reach! I also agree that this country is worth fighting for, many of us have done it before far away from this country's borders, and if it becomes necessary, will do so right here. It is my hope that cooler heads prevail, but we will see.

Emile Pope

I'll bet my money on the guys with the predator drones and Abrams tanks...

Gary Miller

Emile> Drones and tanks will only be needed if Russia tries to help Democrats in a shooting war. Real citizens can round up or terminate Democrats without military help.

Gary Scoggin

Mr Miller, since when did Democrats not become real citizens? You should sue your High School for malpractice for teaching you that.

Michael Byrd

Russia thought the same thing in Afghanistan. We thought the same thing in Vietnam. You might want to read some history on insurgent warfare and you'll find just how uninformed that statement sounds.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Miller, that right there is proof positive of what is taught, dispensed, beat into those who remain on the "Farm" of group think, do what I tell you for this cheese, and food stamps! Now repeat after me, this is what you say! Exactly what my point was. He's one of those who stand on the sidelines of life, who take what is thrown from the passing train, then talk smack and criticize. Victim mentality! Lol!

Casey Alan

Mr. Miller. It’s not the Democrats that Russia helped with the 2016 election. The Russians have too much money riding on Trump after all he was going to build a Trump Tower there. And Democrats are real American citizens. And you think you’re just gonna wipe out everybody that’s a democrat? You are one sicko. I will not be surprised if I see you on the news as a terrorist who has done a mass shooting.

Mike Zeller

"A Very Stable Genius" made a "Perfect" phone call. lol [lol] [lol] [lol] [lol]

Wayne Holt

As I wrote in response to Gary Miller's published letter, we should make a distinction between rank and file Democrats and the party leadership, which appears to me to be completely unhinged at this point.

How many Democrats do you know who embrace things like ending plane travel and banning fossil fuel use in the next few years? How many feel like the American taxpayer isn't doing enough to help illegal immigrants and so we must have a system where all benefits accrue equally to both Americans and those who are here illegally? How many think the US should continue having our intellectual property stolen and our remaining industries shipped to China so we can avoid them scolding us? I know exactly zero Democrats like that, and yet on these and myriad other issues, Democrat party leadership and rank and file Democrats are going separate ways...and I thank God for that. It shows that normal Americans can recognize when the fabric of this country is being shredded in some mindless rush to overturn everything built over centuries on the vain hope that some wild-eyed radicals can build a better world. After all, they told us they could.

Let's give our neighbors who are Democrats the benefit of the doubt. I'm pretty sure most of them don't support the extremes their leadership is championing.

Gary Miller

Wayne> I think you are correct. Most Democrat voters are honest citizens who think the direction Trump has started is the right direction. Some will vote the "D" because they always have but honest citizens will not.

Gary Scoggin

"Honest Citizens will not" -- What are you implying here. That agreeing with your political views is a definition of honesty?

Emile Pope

Clinton won the popular vote...

Carlos Ponce

The winner of a Presidential election is not the person with the highest popular vote but the MOST Electoral votes.

Michelle Aycoth

Yep, she was victorious.

Andy Aycoth

David Hardee

Mr.Pope - do you know how a president is elected? Your constant using quips intended to present argument are cluttering these threads.

Bailey Jones

"My comment to the left is: You can't have my country..." I thought America belonged to all of us. The ignorance and arrogance of the right is astounding. Feel free to exercise your ownership at the ballot box - because that's where it ends.

Gary Miller

Bailey> We exorcised our ownership in 2016 but Democrats didn't agree it stopped there. Three years of attacks on our choice proved democrats think their way is the only way. That any other way is illegal.

Gary Scoggin

Trying to piece together all the strings of the anti-Trump conspiracy theory is a daunting task. There are threads everywhere, many of which seem to conflict. The simplest explanation is usually the right one. And that explanation is that Donald Trump has relentlessly sought help from foreign leaders for his own political ends. The facts are unarguable except for those who are so under his influence that they can’t see straight anymore.

Carlos Ponce

anti-Trump conspiracy theory" No theory - proven FACT.

"And that explanation is that Donald Trump has relentlessly sought help from foreign leaders for his own political ends" Now THAT'S a conspiracy theory.

Gary Scoggin

At least you're consistent Carlos. You believe the constantly evolving pretzel logic that the President and his acolytes disperse even though it's likely they don't believe themselves. You're a good soldier - you're just fighting for the wrong army.

Bailey Jones

Carlos is why I don't have to read @realDonaldTrump anymore - I just come here.

Gary Scoggin

And as a bonus, Carlos doesn't call people names or throw out personal inputs. He is much more Presidential than the President himself!

Carlos Ponce

"You're a good soldier - you're just fighting for the wrong army." So the army of TRUTH is the wrong army? You must be a Democrat.

Bailey Jones

OMG I get it now TRUmp - TRUth??? Can this be a coincidence?

Carlos Ponce

It's your post, Bailey.

Gary Miller

Scoggin> You ignore the fact that 4 investigations found Trump did not get or solicit help from any forign government. The only evidence that either candidate was helped is that Russia and Ukraine tried to help HRC. She even paid Russians for their help.

Emile Pope

Actually that's not true...

Carlos Ponce

Actually, Emile it is true. The investigations were done by the FBI, the House Intelligence Committee, The Senate Intelligence Committee, and Mueller. Look it up.

As for Hillary's help from the Ukraine read the POLITICO article: " Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire - Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton."

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Emile Pope

Not my job to prove your point. You look it up...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, the truth is there but you refuse to view it. That means your argument is worthless.

Gary Scoggin

He got help from foreign governments. That's indisputable - the Russians tried to sow chaos in the US a. As it the fact he solicited it. As recently as last week.

Carlos Ponce

According to Mueller the Russians helped Trump and they helped Hillary. And according to Politifact, The Ukraine helped Hillary: "Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton."

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

The Mexican media (MULTIMEDIOS) encouraged non-US citizens living in the US to register and vote against Trump.

David Hardee

The presidents political desires reflect the the desires of those that elected him. consequently it is the desire of "we the people". Finding some element(s) within all of the activities of any president that would meet a CONSPIRACY is not very difficult. Obama's comment to Putin "once I am elected I can do" could easily be an attempt to conspire. In this fast moving complex world even Gary Scroggins must maneuver his daily activities to produce his desired result. Put yourself in the shoes of a president and imagine how every maneuver is under public (Gary Scroggins) scrutiny/opinion. Do you truly believe Trump is not pro-American. You and I are of differing political persuasions but still American's and expected to act with respect when in contradiction to activities of the elected leaders. Seeing "Straight " is a party line. Critical thinking is seeing clearly.

Casey Alan

So you’re OK with a foreign country interfering with our elections again. So you’re OK when the president breaks laws. It doesn’t matter what he does no matter how many laws he breaks it’s OK. This is not a dictatorship yet. He is not king of this country. You’re willing to have a Civil War in this country just because people do not think like you? Just because people love this country also but yet they think it’s a better way to handle things? Why won’t he cooperate with the inquiry? Is there something there to hide? He needs to grow a pair. Put up or shut up. If he’s so innocent prove it. He’s been president for three years and I’m sure no one in Congress is going to impeach him so we will have another year of him. You do not see Democrats declaring war on Republicans. This alone should tell you something. It is extremely sad that there are people who think like you. I will pray for people like you and I will pray for my country.

Carlos Ponce

"So you’re OK with a foreign country interfering with our elections again. So you’re OK when the president breaks laws." Foreign countries tried to interfere with the 2016 elections. Trump is trying to find out how to stop this from continuing. The president is OBEYING his duties as chief executive. THE US has treaties with China and the Ukraine to ask for assistance in stopping corruption involving Americans and those nations. If you don't see the corruption from Hunter Biden then you've got a problem. Was this investigated? The Liberals claim it was but that's not true. Only the gullible swallow that tripe.

Gary Scoggin

Some nice whataboutism there. The best defense for the President is to attack someone else. It's good to see you go the memo.

Carlos Ponce

The president counter punches. He does not attack.

Charles Douglas

Casey> Casey has a point! Prayer should be an essential in this country's citizen solving their problems! 1Timothy 2:1-3 (KJV) 1) I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men 2) For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3) For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; ( ..and that covers PRESIDENTS TOO!! ) All I see on this forum pretaining to the POTUS, is the vilifying, lambasting, and scorning, of his character.

Mike Zeller

Here is a list of everyone in Congress and the Senate that have publicly agreed with Trump, that his phone call to Ukraine was "Perfect".

1. -----

Maybe someone has an updated list.

Jim Forsythe

Trump and Carlos.

Gary Scoggin

Even Tucker Carlson jumped off that ship.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin listens to Tucker Carlson???? [scared] What would the other donkey's say?

Gary Scoggin

We all need some comedic relief every now and then. Actually he said his in a published article. I don’t know what he said on air,

Carlos Ponce

The donkeys gave Ellen Degeneres Holy Heck for being with George W. I'm glad to see you are expanding your horizon although he has never "jumped off that ship". You must be taking his statement out of context. Care to reveal your source?

Gary Scoggin

Writing in The Daily Caller about a week ago.

“Donald Trump should not have been on the phone with a foreign head of state encouraging another country to investigate his political opponent, Joe Biden. Some Republicans are trying, but there’s no way to spin this as a good idea. Like a lot of things Trump does, it was pretty over-the-top. Our leaders’ official actions should not be about politics”

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/03/tucker-and-patel-truth-about-impeachment/?utm_source=CNN+Media%3A+Reliable+Sources&utm_campaign=3cb8ba1f0e-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_09_11_04_47_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e95cdc16a9-3cb8ba1f0e-84742857

Carlos Ponce

Omitted from your post but not your link:

"The president did not, as was first reported, offer a quid pro quo to the Ukrainians. He did not condition any U.S. support on a Biden investigation. The Justice Department has already looked at the totality of the call and determined that Trump did not break the law."

Brian Allen

Carlos Says: "The president did not, as was first reported, offer a quid pro quo to the Ukrainians. He did not condition any U.S. support on a Biden investigation. The Justice Department has already looked at the totality of the call and determined that Trump did not break the law"



If the call “was perfect”, then why not release the full transcript of the call? Why just release parts of it. Trump could put a complete halt to the investigation if he would release the full transcript, but he won’t. He has it hiding on a secure server. He is guilty of something. He knows it. Remember “Lock Her Up”. I guess its OK as long as its Trump. Carlos you have no credibility or argument. You see the RED cool-aid, drink it till you almost throw-up, then take the rest and pour it all over your head.



Here is something you wont see on Fox News:

This is the text message from Bill Taylor the TRUMP appointed Ukraine diplomat.



Taylor was even more concerned, texting Sondland: "As I said on the phone, I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign."



By the way, I am glad to hear you are doing so well on the socialist program “Teachers Retirement”.

Carlos Ponce

Brian Allen. I did not say that. I was quoting from the link Gary Scoggin provided.

"If the call 'was perfect', then why not release the full transcript of the call?

It was the best transcribers could provide. Nothing left out. Leftist zealots insist something was left out. That's not true.

"He has it hiding on a secure server." DUH! At least is was a GOVERNMENT secured server, not a PRIVATE server in a bathroom like Hillary had.

Brian, you have no credibility or argument. You are just repeating Liberal propaganda

Bill Taylor sent the message to Gordan Sondland who responded, “Bill, I believe you are incorrect about President Trump’s intentions. The President has been crystal clear no quid pro quo’s of any kind. The President is trying to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the transparency and reforms that President Zelensky promised during his campaign I suggest we stop the back and forth by text If you still have concerns I recommend you give Lisa Kenna or S a call to discuss them directly. Thanks.”

"By the way, I am glad to hear you are doing so well on the socialist program 'Teachers Retirement'”. So, an annuity is socialist in your mind? That shows you don't know what you are posting about. An annuity is a capitalist tool to build wealth. Only an idiot would call it "socialist".

Wayne Holt

I am all for justice, as long as it is meted out with impartiality. How can Democrat leadership be incensed with a call--which we have the full and complete text of--that asked no favor but said the US was interested in a vigorous investigation of corruption in Ukraine? If anyone can read political motivation into that, surely they will have to admit what Speaker Pelosi and Rep. Schiff are doing is EXACTLY the same thing. They are trying to remove a political rival; only this time it's not a candidate for office, it's the president of the United States. No one can seriously argue, with what we already know as public record, that this is being done just to assure the Republic survives.

This is blatant political theater and is a carbon copy of what was attempted on Justice Kavanaugh. Shoot down Trump for what he has done if you can do that, but don't lie, distort, distract and disavow what has clearly been done by the Democrats beginning in the Obama administration. You might want to start with how a NGO like Crowdstrike managed to be the only entity with access to the DNC servers that were denied to the FBI investigation. How does one tell the FBI to shove it...unless you already own the FBI at the top?

I will support and vote for any person, regardless of party, with integrity and a commitment to provide a better America for everyone. What I see in Democrat leadership today is a complete travesty, where outright lies are not only tolerated but amplified to gain the ear of low-information voters who still think the Democrat leadership are to be trusted. Whatever Trump has done in his ham-handed way pales to insignificance when compared to the ongoing cover-up and ensuing mayhem by Democrat leadership.

Emile Pope

He asked for a "favor" the second the leader asked for the weapons. Can't you read?

Carlos Ponce

The two are not related. There is no quid pro quo. Can't EMILE read? I guess not.

Paula Flinn

Just the same old discussion. Carlos and Gary Miller and others will defend the President even though he is a liar, con-man, narcissist, sociopath, bully, sexual predator, and a thief. Trump betrayed his Oath of Office by asking for foreign nations to help him win an election. He got away with it before, now he’s doing it again. He has threatened our National Security, and he has destroyed the Integrity of our Elections, all for personal gain. Somebody please read and explain the Constitution to this man! There were ellipses in the transcript. The ... mean words and/or conversation were left out. It was not complete. Perhaps the whistleblowers can fill in the gaps.

We are heading towards recession. Warn notices have increased since Trump became President. Trump has already said if he wins the election, he will further cut Medicaid, as well as Medicare and Social Security. Our environment will suffer. Obamacare will be gone without a comparable or satisfactory substitute. We cannot let that happen!

Jim Forsythe

Did Trump ask for a favor or a advantage or did he expected something in return in regards to the phone call to Volodymyr Zelenskyph.. This is what the House is investigating and when all the evidence is collected, then we will know what Trump was doing.. Next will be, did Trump abandon the Kurds to enhance his financials in Turkey.

Carlos Ponce

The favor was to check out Crowdstrike whom which the Ukraine had problems. It deals with the 2016 election, not 2020. It has been investigated by the Justice Department which found nothing wrong.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-doj-clears-president-violating-campaign-finance-law/story?id=65849857

ABC News calls this "Trump's DOJ" but we all know there are plenty of holdovers who would scream foul if there was any impropriety.

Jim Forsythe

This is what the House is investigating and when all the evidence is collected, then we will know what Trump was doing.. Next will be, did Trump abandon the Kurds to enhance his financials in Turkey.

Brian Allen

No Jim, Trump did not abandon the Kurds to enhance his financials in Turkey, he abandoned them because according to Trump this morning "They did not help us fight in WWII". Although they have been helping us fight ISIS, not helping with WWII was the final straw. I wonder if he going to cut off Saudi Arabia next. Probably not

Jim Forsythe

As they say, follow the money!

Trump and his family have long had business ties in and with Turkey, the most visible example being the Trump Towers Istanbul, which licenses the Trump name.

“I have a little conflict of interest because I have a major, major building in Istanbul,” Trump said in 2015. “It’s a tremendously successful job. It’s called Trump Towers — two towers, instead of one, not the usual one, it’s two,” Trump said in an interview with Stephen Bannon, then chairman of Breitbart News.



Turkey has among the highest number of foreign business ventures in which Trump is at least a partial owner, with 119 listed. Others include China, with 115, and the Philippines, with 121. Businesses linked to the Turkish government are also major patrons of the Trump Organization. Turkish officials have made 14 visits to Trump properties, more than any other country

09 October 2019 Last year, in an interview with several journalists, Yalcindag expressed confidence that Trump would ultimately sympathize with Turkey’s approach to foreign policy. Ivanka Trump’s main business contact in Turkey has been Mehmet Ali Yalcindag, who is the son-in-law of Dogan Holding founder Aydin Dogan, the developer behind the Trump Towers in Istanbul. Yalcindag considers himself a close friend of Trump and his family. After the Dogans invested $400 million in Trump Towers, Trump said “we have a great, great friendship and relationship with them.”

Carlos Ponce

How many troops were withdrawn from Syria? Answer: 50. Tell you what, those who think the Kurds need help feel free to go there to replace the American troops. Do we have 50 willing to go? Just 50.

Gary Scoggin

Not 50 Troops - 50 Green Berets which are incredible force multipliers, much different that 50 guys off the street. They provide intelligence, training and support which make the Kurds much more effective.

Also, the presence of American troops longside the Kurd forces made it impossible for Turkey to attack them for fear of a US response. By removing our soldiers, our President removed the last obstacle preventing their attack.

Of all the shameful things Donald Trump has done, this may be the most shameful. Leaving our allies totally exposed to be sacrificed at the hands of another dicatator who knows how to butter him up. But then again, the Kurds didn't support us in WWII.

How you can support this action is beyond me. Even other Republicans are condemning it.

Jim Forsythe

We can not replace the Troops with just 50. It will take 1000;s to round up the ISIS militants and stave off the Turk's. We can replace the lost in faith, that are allies had in us.

Ambassador James Jeffrey, the State Department envoy to the international coalition fighting the Islamic State group, and Trump have said the Kurds have custody of thousands of captured ISIS militants. They include about 2,500 highly dangerous foreign fighters from Europe and elsewhere whose native countries have been reluctant to take them back and another 10,000 or so captured fighters from Syria and Iraq.

Jim Forsythe

The bipartisan argument against withdrawal

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have warned that this withdrawal could lead to a massacre of Kurdish people.

Republicans like Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, who are normally staunch Trump supporters, expressed disapproval of the president's actions in statements and interviews.

"A precipitous withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria would only benefit Russia, Iran, and the Assad regime," McConnell said. "And it would increase the risk that ISIS and other terrorist groups regroup."

Graham said that the decision is "a disaster in the making."

"I like President Trump," Graham said on Fox and Friends. "I've tried to help him. This to me is just unnerving to its core."

'A reckless gamble': Reasons critics decry Trump's 'impulsive' Syria withdrawal

Nikki Haley, who was Trump's ambassador to the United Nations, tweeted that "The Kurds were instrumental in our successful fight against ISIS in Syria. Leaving them to die is a big mistake."

Jim Forsythe

Republicans and Democrats have warned that allowing the Turkish attack could lead to a massacre of the Kurds, sending a troubling message to American allies across the globe.

"There are U.S. troops in Syria , working as advisers to the Syrian Defense Forces or providing other support to local militias battling the Islamic State. The mission to eradicate the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, in Syria is "coming to a rapid end" for the United States, according to White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. But she said Wednesday in a statement that the U.S. remains committed to seeing that mission through."

"The U.S. military must complete three objectives in Syria before the 2,000 U.S. troops in the country can come home, Mattis told reporters on Tuesday. “We have to destroy ISIS,” Mattis said. “We also have to have trained local troops who can take over. We’re doing that training as we speak. Third: We need the Geneva process – the U.N.-recognized process – to start making traction toward solving this war.”

Jim Forsythe

Correction:

We can not replace the lost in faith, that are allies had in us.

Carlos Ponce

Do I hear Gary Scoggin and Jim Forsythe ready and wiling to help the Kurds?

Carlos Ponce

"The bipartisan argument against withdrawal" - There's only ONE Commander in Chief, Jim.

Gary Scoggin

Am I willing to help the Kurds? Absolutely. If you'd been paying attention you would know that no one here has the training or ability to do it in person. But I get that you love Trump more than our allies shedding blood to defeat ISIS. You're on the opposite side of the nation including most Republicans on this.

Jim Forsythe

Sen. Rand Paul, Trump and Carlos are OK with what is about to happen! Not many other people think it is OK.

As I'm over the age for enlistment, and do not have the training, I will not be able to go fix Trumps mess.

Carlos Ponce

Check the history of US troops in Syria, Gary. 30 days and we were supposed to be out. How long does Gary Scoggin believe we're supposed to be there? One year, five years, twenty years, infinity. It's no love of Trump, it's getting our troops home. They are needed elsewhere. Are the Kurds "allies"? There isn't even a Kurdish government - just a loose Iranian ethnic group. It's time to negotiate, not fight. Trump is readying sanctions to those who would harm the Kurds who aided the US.

Jim Forsythe

With Trumps actions in Syria, more House and Senate members will be receptive to Impeachment and removal.



The Commander in Chief will be neutered !

In an interview with the media outlet Axios, Graham predicted that enough Senate Republicans would back sanctions legislation to override a possible Trump veto.

“The president’s doing this completely against everybody else’s advice,” Graham said. “He will get 100% of the credit if he knows something the rest of us don’t. And he’s going to get 100% of the blame. There’ll be no middle ground.”

Carlos Ponce

"Trump suggested that he was fine with the Kurds being slaughtered by invading Turkish forces because they didn’t help the US during World War II. Which is not true, because they were part of WW2." Now that's a twist of the truth. What did he ACTUALLY say?

“And as somebody wrote in a very, very powerful article today, they didn’t help us in the second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example. They mentioned names of different battles. But they’re there to help us with their land and that’s a different thing,” referencing a TownHall article by Kurt Schlichter.

Posting "he was fine with the Kurds being slaughtered" is a LIE.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos are OK with what is about to happen!" Trump is calling for negotiation, mediation to end the killing. Does Jim want the Kurds to die so it would make Trump look bad? I hope not but it sure looks that way.

Jim Forsythe

"They didn't help us in the Second World War; they didn't help us with Normandy," Trump said of the Kurds, who played a vital role in the US-led campaign against ISIS."



Trump is calling for negotiation, mediation to end the killing that he started with the withdraw. Trump is the reason that this has escalated to the point that many people will die.

Does Jim want the Kurds to die so it would make Trump look bad? No, Trump is making Trump look bad and also making the USA look bad.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, how about giving the entire quote? “And as somebody wrote in a very, very powerful article today, they didn’t help us in the second World War, they didn’t help us with Normandy as an example. They mentioned names of different battles. But they’re there to help us with their land and that’s a different thing."

Truncating his actual statement is misleading. You are guilty of obfuscation and gas lighting.

Jim Forsythe

Trump suggested that he was fine with the Kurds being slaughtered by invading Turkish forces because they didn’t help the US during World War II. Which is not true, because they were part of WW2

Response below about WW2

Gary Scoggin

“Trump is calling for negotiation, mediation to end the killing. ”. Well the killing started as soon as our soldiers pulled out. Will the President now wreck Turkey’s economy as he says he’s done before and says he will do again? Or is he full of hot air on this as well?

Jim Forsythe

So he'll sanction them AFTER the Kurds have been slaughtered. Wow. That's really going to stop Erdogan, isn't it?

Carlos Ponce

Tensions between the two started hundreds of years ago. Our presence did not stop it. Keeping 50 American troops there will not stop it. Negotiations and threats of sanctions are a different tactic.

Jim Forsythe

Trump suggested that he was fine with the Kurds being slaughtered by invading Turkish forces because they didn’t help the US during World War II. Which is not true, because they were part of WW2.

There's a tremendous erased history of colonial soldiers serving in WW2. Indian, Arab, African soldiers in large numbers all contributed to the liberation of Axis territory including Europe in frontline combat.

But forgotten because they served under French & British flags.

"They helped break the siege following the 1941 pro-Nazi coup d'état in Iraq and were part of the (pro-Allied) Iraq Levies," said Awan. "By 1942 Kurds made up 25% of the force. By 1943, 10 of the 44 companies comprising the Iraq Levies were Kurdish."

Both Pentagon and State Department officials had advised Trump against making the move, arguing a US presence is needed to counter ISIS and keep Iran and Russia, both influential inside Syria, in check.

October 10, 2019 “News from Syria is sickening,” Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the third-ranking Republican in the House, tweeted Wednesday, echoing lawmakers across the spectrum. “Turkish troops preparing to invade Syria from the north, Russian-backed forces from the south, ISIS fighters attacking Raqqa. Impossible to understand why @realDonaldTrump is leaving America’s allies to be slaughtered and enabling the return of ISIS.”

Carlos Ponce

"Trump suggested that he was fine with the Kurds being slaughtered" He NEVER suggested that. That's a lie.

Jim Forsythe

If he not OK with the slaughter., he should not have removed the troops. He knew what would happen, because his Generals knew. If he did not know then he and a few others are the only ones that did not. His behavior in this demonstrates why being President, is not a starter job.

Carlos Ponce

So Jim wants AMERICAN lives endangered. Our presence made no difference in tensions between the two groups. Neither will our absence. This started centuries ago. Let's try a different tactic.

Jim Forsythe

This new tactic ( which Trump came up with) of backing down, will lead to noting but increase body count and a increase in ISIS's strength.

Our presence made a big difference.

From the perspective of the Turkish government. the number should be secondary – the main thing. the US soldiers are out of the way. The dispute between the US and Turkey over the YPG goes back a long time. Erdogan had once even threatened the US soldiers in Syria with an "Ottoman slap" if they were to protect the YPG from Turkish troops.

The USA had given our word, to our allies, the Kurds. Now what is our word worth? Beyond setting the stage for another devastating conflict, a hasty withdrawal also sends a clear message to would-be allies in Washington’s seemingly perpetual fight against terrorists (or anyone else): The U.S. is fickle and not an ally to be trusted.

Jim Forsythe

AMERICAN troop lives are endangered every day across the world. Our presence made a difference because now it is open season on the Kurds.

ISIS will increase in strength. Thursday morning Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar said, referring to Kurdish forces preparing fortifications against ISIS, “whatever they dig … when the time comes they will be buried in the trenches.”

In the fight against the Islamic State, the Kurds have been our best and most reliable ally. In Syria, in partnership with U.S. Special Operations, the Kurdish-led militia, known as the Syrian Democratic Forces, have largely been responsible for the success in taking back territory, handling captured fighters, and liberating communities. In fact, they are still leading the fight against ISIS in eastern Syria

Carlos Ponce

The Kurds and Turkey should work out their difference. Let's help them negotiate.

In the meantime:

"Then we went outside to the runway, and this incredible machine is flying in, and it lands, and it comes over, and it pulls up, and we have military guards, we have incredible talented musicians that do this. That’s what they do. What happens is that door opens up, and the Colonel told me, he said, 'Sir, when that door opens up, those same people that you think are okay, do things that you’ll never see. You will hear sounds like you’ve never heard.' That’s what he does.

I saw that door open up with a coffin with a flag over it. The door was opened, and these beautiful soldiers, five or six on each side, lifting the coffin and walking down the runway, the plank, they call it, off this cargo plane. And I see parents make sounds, that were just 20 minutes ago absolutely fine, make sounds, scream and cry like you’ve never seen before. The Colonel was telling me that, 'Sir, you’ll see things that you’ve never seen before. A mother who was fine 20 minutes ago, you think, breaking the military line and jumping off, and then jumping onto a coffin of her son or her daughter, jumping on, on top of the flowers, on top of the American flag.' I’ve seen this.

Then I have all these people that want to stay. They want to stay. And I don’t want to stay. We were supposed to be in Syria for 30 days. We’ve now been there for 10 years. We were supposed to be in Afghanistan for a short period of time. We’re now going to be there for close to 19 years. It’s time to bring them home. It’s time to bring them home. It’s true. Time to bring them home. We’ve done our job, we’ve defeated everyone that we’re supposed to defeat. And now we are, we are policing, we are now policing. That’s what we’re doing."

Jim Forsythe

"If Turkey does anything that I consider taboo in my great and unparalleled wisdom. I will completely destroy and annihilate the Turkish economy." Trump writes on Twitter. What the US President considers taboo in his great and incomparable wisdom. he leaves open.

Carlos Ponce

"What the US President considers taboo in his great and incomparable wisdom. he leaves open." Wait and find out, Jim. It will not be like that yellow line in the sand - I mean RED line in the sand Obama had.

Jim Forsythe

It's about Trump and things he is doing to distract from the impeachment . If not because of the impeachment, he is just not being smart about what he is doing. He is starting to lose support from people that are not his base. He is doing things like withdrawing troops, when the outcome is not going to be nice. He is also making some Republican's in the Senate think about how they will vote on removal, if it come to that.

Carlos Ponce

No, Jim, it's the Democrat leadership aware that their corruption in the 2016 election is about to be revealed. STAY TUNED!

"some Republican's" Romney and Collins again. Collins is a RINO. Romney is still upset Trump won and he did not.

Carlos Ponce

Problem is Barr and Durham have uncovered so much corruption it will take a while to unravel the misdeeds done by Democrats. Barr and Durham traveled to Great Britain and Italy and discovered much. A discovery trip to Australia is next on the list. Don't be surprised.

Jim Forsythe

One example, how many Senators are against Trump and what he did with the Kurds The answer is most are upset about this and other things.. As support continues to erode from the voters, more people in congress will be against Trump.

Trump formed a group to investigate illegal voting (which was supposed to favor Democrats) but it disbanded because they could find nothing and met with resistance from a number of states when asked to turn over voter information.

Will Barr launch an investigation of nothing? Possible, but usually that sort of thing (politically motivated witch-hunt) is conducted in Congress in either the House or Senate (Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi!).

No one on the democratic side payed a couple of porn stars hush money to keep quiet. No one on the democratic side urged the Russians during a public rally to release stolen emails.

Carlos Ponce

No, Jim. The investigation into illegal voting by non-citizens continues. In September 25 non-citizens were removed from Texas rolls, 10 in August, 11 in July, 19 in June, 6 in May, 12 in April, 11 in March, 108 in February, 8 in January. Add in the number who self-reported to avoid persecution. It adds up, slowly but surely.

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/team/cancellation-trend-reports/index.shtml

Jim Forsythe

Not part of Trump's disbanded group. This is about Trump and not what the induvial states have done and the wild goose chases that Trump goes on. Even the proof that Trump had for the investigation (Richman 's work) was twisted from it's content as Trump tried and make a case that did not exist.

Trump's hunt for illegal voters was base on this, which even the person that wrote it, would not agree with Trump about. "Trump and Kobach have also relied on the work of political scientist Jesse Richman to support their claim that more than 3 million illegal voters may be on the rolls and that Hillary Clinton may not have won the 2016 popular vote. Under oath in a federal court case, Richman said he could not support that extrapolation from his work."

"President Donald Trump claimed that millions of people were voting illegally in California, returning to an allegation he has made since he was a candidate but has failed to substantiate with evidence. "

"Trump has also repeatedly said he would have won the state of New Hampshire during the 2016 election had it not been for people who were bused in to vote illegally. But state officials said they have no evidence that happened."

Carlos Ponce

Jim posts, "Not part of Trump's disbanded group." Really?

Jim Forsythe

Out of 15 million Texans registered to vote a few did not follow the rules.

Fourteen Texas voters caught up in the secretary of state’s botched review of the voter rolls for supposed noncitizens had their registrations canceled but have since been reinstated, state officials told a federal judge.

On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.

Trump fanned the flame with this tweet:

Donald J. Trump : 58,000 non-citizens voted in Texas, with 95,000 non-citizens registered to vote. These numbers are just the tip of the iceberg. All over the country, especially in California, voter fraud is rampant. Must be stopped. Strong voter ID!

Carlos Ponce

Getting closer to 58,000 slowly but surely.

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