Why does The Daily News print commentary that's factually inaccurate?

L. David Bond would have us believe that only the wealthy benefitted from the Trump tax cuts ("Trump and cronies are robbing us through tax cuts," The Daily News, Feb. 27). The truth is, all Americans took home more of their paychecks.

Historically, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay more in that than the 90 percent combined. The bottom 40 percent of earners pay no income tax at all. They get back everything that they paid in and then some.

Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less.

People howling that their tax return is smaller need to understand that it's because they paid less in. If you need to use the IRS as a savings account, you can elect to withhold more than is required.

Bond seems to have plucked some figures from some random article that can be easily fact checked on Google for their inaccuracy. I'm ready to cancel my subscription over the spread of disinformation in the commentaries that you print. People will believe this nonsense just because it was printed in the paper, and therefore, must be true. You're part of the problem.

Cindy Milina

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Claudia Burnam

Ms Milina, get out your salt shaker and enjoy Mr. Bond rantings. When I read them I thank God there isn't many of his kind around. BUT be warned they are multiplying! E G Wiley

Carlos Ponce

When I read the letter from L. Davied Bond I was reminded of the "Desiderata" - a 1927 poem by American writer Max Ehrmann popular in the early 1970s. There is a line in it that goes: "Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story."
Cindy Milina knows the truth and she has facts to back them.
As for L. Davied Bond, there is Leftist propaganda filled with distortions of reality but we are constantly being inundated with items of that nature - even in the Galveston County Daily News. Romans had a phrase for this: "Caveat Lector" - Latin for "Let the reader beware". What do we learn from the false tale L. Davied Bond spins? There are those out there trying to discredit the current administration with obfuscations and outright lies. This shows how desperate they are.
Sad to say Cindy is correct when she posts, "People will believe this nonsense just because it was printed in the paper...."

Gary Miller

Leftist propaganda? No it's the new truth. They believe truth and facts count for nothing as long the speaker is morally correct. If the goal is correctly supported truth and facts are not needed.

George Croix

THEIR moral fact......which, itself, is an oxymoron.....[whistling]

Emile Pope

She presented no facts. Making a bunch of statements and then saying to Google them to prove them is not our job. And saying that it's fair that the wealthy pay a much, much, much, smaller percentage of their income than someone who isn't because it's a higher dollar value is a repub talking point that is ridiculous.

Emile Pope


"Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less." Really?
People making 100k pay 22% to 24% of their income in taxes. And the top tax rate is 37%. Apparently Google must be down today...

Carlos Ponce

According to Emile, people who make more than $100,000 don't pay sales taxes nor property taxes, nor in other states a state's income tax. Really? Usually when you look at a person's tax burden you include income, property, sales and in other states but not Texas, a state's income tax. If those taxes don't come from their income, where DO they come from?
Last year, an average Texan's tax burden was 8.15%, higher if you made more, paid more. And Texas ranks 33rd in state tax burden.
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494/
"People making 100k pay 22% to 24% of their income in taxes."
So that means, the average Texan pays 30.15% to 32.15% of their income in taxes. The median income in 2017 for Texas was $59,206. The average New Yorker pays 35.04% to 37.04%. The median average for NY was $64,894. But those are AVERAGE. Those making $100,000 pay more than those averages.

Emile Pope

1 + 1 = 2 And all the gobbledygook, blathering, and convoluted logic won't change that. A person making 100k pays between 22% and 24% in taxes. The maximum tax bracket is 37%. The end...

Carlos Ponce

In other words, Emile doen't like FACTS that don't support his false narrative.
"A person making 100k pays between 22% and 24% in taxes. The maximum tax bracket is 37%. The end..." Not the end, the rest of us who don't live in LaLa Land also pay SALES TAX and most pay PROPERTY TAX and in most states (not Texas) also a STATE PROPERTY TAX.

Emile Pope

"All right, we'll call it a draw..."
Carlos Ponce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6frs86Szk_0

Jim Forsythe

It depends if you file as single or married jointly.Single payers would pay $15,416 in taxes after $12,000 in standard deductions on $100,000. This is equal to 15.416% tax rate.
Filing married and jointly you would pay $8,430.00 in taxes on $100.0000 after deductions, for a tax rate of 8.43%. If you qualify for more deductions, you would pay less.
All people pay sales taxes and property taxes(rent includes taxes) unless they live on the streets. Cindy said "The bottom 40 percent of earners pay no income tax at all." is not true if you include what Carlos said! If one does not include this amount which incudes all taxes, then what Carlos was talking about, does not apply.
Even adding in what Carlos was including, it does not come close to 39%.

Emile Pope

In other words, the discussion was about federal taxes. When the writer's position was shown to be totally without merit, another writer tried to add sales, property, and state income taxes to support their claim. And as usual it failed miserably...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, the statement you questioned was, "Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less."
Does it state "39% in FEDERAL INCOME TAX only", Emile????? No, it does not.

Emile Pope

The trump tax cuts only applied to federal income tax. You’re done.

Carlos Ponce

Emile posts, "The trump tax cuts only applied to federal income tax." This is true, SO WHAT? "Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less."
You're reading too much into that sentence, Emile.

Jim Forsythe

If you make $100,000 you do not pay 39%.
Single filers pay 15.416% and joint filers pay 8.43%.

Single payers would pay $15,416 in taxes after $12,000 in standard deductions on $100,000. This is equal to 15.416% tax rate.
Filing married and jointly you would pay $8,430.00 in taxes on $100.0000 after deductions, for a tax rate of 8.43%.
If you qualify for more deductions, you would pay less.
.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, you're just writing about the Federal Income Tax. There are other tax burdens that a person pays. There is property tax, sales tax and in some state a state income tax. It all adds up.

Jim Forsythe

In the story that Cindy wrote nowhere did she say anything about taxes, except about income tax. You are the only one talking about all the other taxes.
"Historically, the top 1 percent of wage earners pay more in that than the 90 percent combined. The bottom 40 percent of earners pay no income tax at all. They get back everything that they paid in and then some.Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less."
To try and defend the 39% ,which you cannot unless you are talking about the 37% bracket for $500,000 for a single payer and 37% on $600,000 for joint payers. This is without any deductions and not counting any income from Social Security, which is taxed at a lower rate.


Carlos Ponce

The sentence reads, ""Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings. The rest of us pay in less." NOT
"Those that earn more than $100,000 pay in 39 percent of their earnings in Federal Income Tax. The rest of us pay in less."
You are reading your own interpretation into what is actually there.

Gary Miller

Thank you Carlos for the truth. Emile seems to use the AOC rule that facts or truth are less important than moral correctness.

George Croix

Cindy, didn't you get the memo?
In Progressiveland, it's bad to be successful, good to be dependent, and positively wonderful to blame everybody else for one's personal shortcomings.
It helps, too, in the rush to avoidance of reality, to not have a clue where jobs come from...of course, that assumes one wants a job, and not just to be kept......

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant. They just know so much that isn't so."
Ronald Reagan

Gary Miller

Strange fact I picked up looking for strange facts. Annual apartment rent in San Fran is more than the California medium income. Only 1%ers can afford to rent in San Fran, the rest live on streets.

Jim Forsythe

The average apartment rent in San Francisco, $2,232 for a studio, $3,091 for one bedroom.
Along with the higher price of a apartment, comes higher wages.
For 2017 the Median Household Income for San Francisco was $101,714.
For 2017 the Median Household Income for California was $71,805
For 2017 the Median Household Income for USA was $60,336

Don Schlessinger

"People howling that their tax return is smaller need to understand that it's because they paid less in. If you need to use the IRS as a savings account, you can elect to withhold more than is required." Exactly!

If people understood the tax return they are all whining about is repayment of a interest free loan they have given the government they might work a little harder to reduce the amount of their return at the end of the year. Why do that, the trick is trying hard to give the government nothing and expect to receive nothing after filing at the end of the year. It's not easy but it can be done. If a person owes at the end of the year he/she has borrowed interest free money from "Uncle Sam" and is just repaying the loan.
That all might be just hot air and my way of rationalizing the thing, but it makes it easier for me to handle filing income tax.

George Croix

'Progressive'
Projection

Close enough......[beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

JHC!!
There's no doubt in my mind that the article INTENDED to talk about the new federal income tax as it was a rebuttal to one usual suspect damning all things Trump. Again......and as accurately as usual, imo....[whistling][rolleyes]
The feds made no changes were made to local and state sales and property taxes themselves, because it's not their job to do so........

I think the author just got the figures mixed up, and if wrong she can call me down...it won't be my first experience at that. I can't recall anytime when 100 grand income got you 39% federal income taxation, and I made that much and more for a long time, and our combined incomes were a lot more than that, and I only recall once when we hit the full 39+ % and that was an unusual year with a LOT of overtime...

https://www.wkco.com/2017-vs-2018-federal-income-tax-brackets/

There's equally no doubt that one can look at the tax rate tables comparisons in that link (I just looked up 2017 vs 2018 Federal Income Tax rate Schedules) show that just about everybody got a DECREASE in their federal Income Taxes to be paid to Uncle Sam, which is a bad thing only to all of the usual suspects.
They got it either by rate reduction and/or bracket expansion, and ALL who do not itemize got it by virtue of a near doubling of the standard deduction.
Folks who have been allowed to deduct ginormous property taxes from their federal income tax for about forever now have a limit to that, so may pay more in taxes TO the feds directly, but unless forced to live where they are, and some ARE by job, then some limit of ability to deduct any price range for a home seems like an 'about time' thing, imo...

There's also zero doubt except in the minds of the Perpetually Aggrieved that the top income earners pay the entire pride of lions' share of the federal income taxes.
The bottom wage earners paid NOTHING in federal taxes, and thus we have a situation where people with zero skin in the game get to cast a vote to direct Joe to pay for their wants.....that remains the same considering the increase in the standard deduction. It's NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A GIFT, so unless you PAY federal income tax, you should not get a 'return'.
The federal government is not your babysitter, unless you are one of the generationally dependent, so if you can't manage to watch your own pay and your own deductions and do the W4 thing correctly for your situation then that's on you, not your Uncle, and not Pres. Trump....the usual suspects there also notwithstanding...
If you insist on arguing that the 'Trump Tax Cuts' helped nobody but the top 1%, then you are a dishonest person, or woefully ignorant...take your pick........

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