The Associated Press and The Daily News is biased against Trump ("Trump orders halt to his family separation rule," The Daily News, June 21). The headline was way out of line. When was it his rule? What happened to Congress rule?

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Gary Miller

The liberal media is the propaganda wing of the Democrat party. The top people in the liberal media are often retired Democrat party public service employees. They were DNC when employed in government and still are in the media. The higher they were in government the more they earn in the media.

George Croix

EVERY ONE of the MSM channels and just about all the newspapers were only too happy to repeatedly play or provide written versions of this speech for the couple of weeks from the candidate giving it to the election.
Took 'em about, oh, 5 seconds after election night to run from it like the plague, flip it 180, and start 'resisting'.....
It would be funny if not so pathetic...and dangerous...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxZIuFZEmA

Steve Fouga

It was his administration's rule, if not his personal one. Family separations were precipitated by a Justice Department "Zero Tolerance" policy. Thankfully the administration has reversed itself.

George Croix

Must not have watched the video, huh....?
You can't be saying it was Admin. or personal policy to make the 'resistance' decide to not 'honor the results of an election'?? That has nothing to do with family separations, even discounting that his predecessor(s) did the same thing.
I don't think the Admin. has reveresed itself and decided they didn't really win in Nov. '16.....,

[beam]

Steve Fouga

George, i wasn't replying to your comment, I was replying to the article itself. I mistakenly typed in the wrong field.

George Croix

You too, huh?
This jumping bean format loses me half the time, and the other half I get lost on my own.
The old consecutive posting order with the most recent post at top was easier to follow...for me, anyway....

Steve Fouga

[thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

Steve posts "Family separations were precipitated by a Justice Department "Zero Tolerance" policy."
You mean Barack Obama had a "Zero Tolerance Policy" too?
In a recent interview with Chris Wallace, Jeh Johnson (Obama DHS Secretary) was asked:
"You started jailing entire families. In some cases, not a lot, but in some, you separated children from their parents in these pictures that we are putting up, from 2014, show pictures of unaccompanied minors in effect jail situations. As you look back on that, did you handle it so well?"
"Well, Chris, without a doubt the images and the reality from 2014 just like 2018 are not pretty."
Congressman Henry Cuellar (D) Laredo recalls the separation of families under Obama as well.
“I released some of those photos because it was kept very quiet under the Obama administration. There were large numbers of people coming in. The Obama administration was trying to keep this quiet,” Cuellar said.
"Cuellar further added that not every child housed in the detention centers are being separated from their parents because many cross the border without them."

Steve Fouga

No, I wasn't talking about Obama. I meant that AG Sessions announced that the Trump administration has a zero-tolerance policy (that's what they call it), and that's what precipitated the family separations. Obama never had such a policy. Do you believe Trump's zero-tolerance policy is effective? Do you think it's a good idea? Did you think the Obama administration separating families was a good idea? If you didn't, then why do you support it now? If you did, then why raise it as an issue now?

Maybe you think two wrongs make a right?

Jarvis Buckley

Steve you are incorrect. Let's build that wall Steve. Let's encourage immigrants to come in legally . Write your congressman Steve, let's get that wall built. Legal entry solves so many issues. I know you support lawful entry Steve. Build that wall.
Stop drugs & criminals. You don't like drugs killing our kids . Build that wall.

Steve Fouga

The wall is a giant boondoggle. Waste of taxpayer money. I do support lawful entry, however.

James Bowles

NO sending billions to Iran for NOTHING was a boon doondggle

Steve Fouga

It's possible to have more than one boondoggle.

Emile Pope

It was Iran's money. We were just returning it to them.

Carlos Ponce

"It was Iran's money." So you are sticking to that STORY.

Emile Pope

I thought that Mexico was supposed to pay for it. You mean that was a falsehood?

James Bowles

I know this is OVER your head, but you head is on the ground. When we tax money sent back to Mexico..theyll pay..Also when we cut off foreign aide they pay

Emile Pope

Garbage and convoluted logic. Just admit that you were lied to.

Carlos Ponce

More "garbage" from Emile.

Emile Pope

Then why didn’t he just do those things instead of kidnapping children and using them as hostages to get us to pay for a wall?

Carlos Ponce

"kidnapping children and using them as hostages to get us to pay for a wall?"
????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
That is a total and complete fabrication .
NO child was kidnapped,
NO one was held as hostage.
Are you accusing DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson under Obama of kidnapping who did exactly the same thing?
The only children separated were:
1. Where there was no family removed. The adult who brought them were NOT PARENTS. Some were child sex traffickers, child traffickers, sex traffickers.
2. The parent proved to be a danger to the child. You really want a child kept with a parent that would harm them?
3. The parent was a criminal. Even native children are separated from native parents when the parent is jailed. Or does Emile think children should be imprisoned with their parents?

Emile Pope

Denying something doesn't make it false. Their children are being held from them. Garbage logic and made up facts don't make it so...

Carlos Ponce

Not "garbage" at all if you examine the FACTS.

Emile Pope

The custom agents are telling the mothers seeking asylum that they are going to take their children to get them bathed. Then when the agent returns the child is no longer with them, not to be seen again. Is this Nazi Germany? How can this type of barbarism and cruelty be accepted? What part of christian values is this? Anyone who considers this humane needs serious help...

Carlos Ponce

"The custom agents are telling the mothers seeking asylum that they are going to take their children to get them bathed."
That came from Azalea Aleman-Bendiks, a criminal public defender with her own agenda who did not witness the incident, CLAIMS she was told this from the people she represents. No eyewitnesses produced. Just a lawyer's TRICK to FOOL the gullible. Customs agents call her a LIAR.

Emile Pope

Garbage. What evidence do you have that the attorney was lying? Her client said this and they still don't have their child. Why? And exactly where did it said the agents denied her claims?

Emile Pope

And you wrote that the customs agents called her a liar. There is no statement from customs stating this. So now you're just making things up? Trumpism 101...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, the CUSTOMS AGENTS SAID Azalea Aleman-Bendiks WAS LYING, not me. I think it went like this:
Azalea Aleman-Bendiks approaches a group of illegals and says:
"Cualquiera que haya llegado a la frontera con un niño puede reclamar el estatus de refugiado. Ahora levante la mano si tuvo un hijo que le quitaron."
All hands go up.

Carlos Ponce

I heard it on a news program, Emile.

Emile Pope

"Customs agents call her a LIAR." No proof of that. What news story? Inventing "facts" again?

Carlos Ponce

It happened. Get over it, Emile.

Emile Pope

Next time bring something more than your opinion...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, it happened. Get over it.

Carlos Ponce

Emile, they will pay for it. Be patient. Trump is moving at a fast pace but you want immediate gratification. That would be nice but give it time.

Emile Pope

Like when the deficit will go down? Or his great healthcare plan will be revealed? Or his taxes? Or anything that he promises other than racism or bigotry? A con man that still has the suckers fooled...

Carlos Ponce

Patience is a virtue, Emile. Try practicing it. You sound like a kid: "Are we there yet! Are we there yet!"

Emile Pope

Never patient with President Obama. Now you want patience with a person who only follows through on racism and bigotry. Not a chance...

Carlos Ponce

If Emile was never patient with Obama - that's your problem.

Randy Chapman

NO Emile. It will happen, whether Mexico likes it or not. Give the man time.

Emile Pope

I notice that trump never sets a deadline or a timetable. Most con men don’t because they never deliver. Ow we get to see the economy collapse because of this stupid trade war trump picked with every country except Russia. Et tu Harley-Davidson?

Carlos Ponce

Con men? He's getting the job done. Harley Davidson panicked early. It's their business and they can do what they want. Like Emile they need patience while trade negotiations continue. They may either regret their knee jerk reaction or back out of it in the future. The Liberal news doesn't help matters. All the good that has been accomplished and all they do is ATTACK. I suggest Harley and Emile quit listening to them.

Emile Pope

Kidnapping children isn't "getting the job done". Making excused for inaction or failure is pathetic. Results not promises...

George Croix

Bias AND two faces.
Lots of coverage of Maxine Waters’ latest insane blathering encouraging ‘the resistance’ to harass Pres. Trump Admin. members but only one showing the two faced old...woman freaking out when a reporter kept pestering HER.
At some point the ‘resistance’ characters need to get a grip, or they might find out they have underestimated their targets.
Maybe...

Diane Turski

These cruel and unnecessary family separations were the result of Trump's "zero tolerance" policy. If you want to see all pro-Trump news coverage, I suggest watching FOX "News" or any Sinclair stations. Don't confuse factual reporting with anti-Trump bias - Trump's actions and words are merely being factually reported.

George Croix

Oh, bull-o-knee....
The DNC hasn't refreshed their talking points, huh?
[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]
The Zero Tolerance just made more visible what the folks who have had a blind eye for years to OTHER Presidents doing the same thing chose to not see.
Hillary and even Nancy and Chuck were ALL DECRYING unchecked illegal immigration just a few short years ago. Videos are available...unless one doesn't believe their own lying eyes.
'Fox News' paranoia aside, use your own Party's backfiring attempt to hang kids in cages on Trump that turned out to use 2014 pictures. Care to guess who was President in 2014??[beam]
NOW we are stuck going back to catch and release thanks to the good and kind folks who don't give a dam_ about the costs and miseries born by US citizens when we are inundated with illiterate and unskilled illegals...Aren't you one of the loudest keyboards herein bemoaning a shortage of public schoiols funds? Exactly what do you think the illegal alien required education costs does to that bottom line? Is that, too , a Fox made up fact?
What's next from the 'resistance', demand that American citizens who commit illegal acts be allowed to keep their kids with them in jail? Or are ya'll going for the full catch and release for them, too?
[whistling][rolleyes][wink][tongue][sleeping]

Carlos Ponce

Diane Turski posts,"These cruel and unnecessary family separations were the result of Trump's "zero tolerance" policy."
Jeh Johnson Obama's DHS Secretary said the same occurred during the last administration. You mean Obama had a "Zero tolerance policy" too or were both presidents just enforcing the laws passed by Congress, the 9th Circuit Court and the Supreme Court?

Emile Pope

False. When did President Obama support taking children from their parents? That was totally trump. False equivalency...

Carlos Ponce

Wrong Emile. It happened during his watch. Just ask Congressman Henry Cuellar (D) of Laredo or Obama's DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson. Links found on other responses on this page.

George Croix

"The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan

George Croix

Interesting item here:

"The New York Times published a shocking first-hand account of the horrific conditions a mother and her young son faced after immigrating to the United States from El Salvador. Unfortunately for the mainstream media that continues to portray President Trump as the face of immigration crisis – the asylum seeker’s tragic account happened in 2014.

The author of the Op-Ed wrote on the condition of anonymity because of “gang-related threats” her family has faced. She explained that she wanted to flee the violence of her native El Salvador, so she came to the United States, seeking a new life, during President Barack Obama’s second term in the White House.

“Instead, I found myself locked in a family immigration detention center. It’s an experience that I wouldn’t wish on anyone,” she wrote.

The mainstream media has painted Trump as the face of the immigration crisis, but the Times piece illustrates that it is an ongoing issue that has been a series problem since the current president was simply a real estate mogul. However, the woman who sought asylum in 2014 never mentioned Obama in her chilling account. Trump was mentioned by the second paragraph, when the mother noted that she doesn’t believe family detention is the answer to the outcry regarding children separated from their parents.

How similar is Trump's immigration agenda to Obama's?
The anonymous woman found “no relief” in the United States, where she was held for two months in a for-profit immigration detention center in New Mexico back in 2014.

“The day-to-day conditions were horrible. The food was often expired, the milk was spoiled, and we weren’t provided with snacks for our children between meals,” she wrote.

She explained that sometimes food was thrown out because of concerns regarding rats in her dorm and said children often went to bed hungry, while clean water also was hard to come by.

“It was no place for human beings, let alone for families with small children,” she wrote.

The woman said children in the Obama-era detention center didn’t receive proper medical attention, which she says resulted in at least one death, and staffers talked down to the detainees.

“When one mother whose daughter had asthma informed the officers that her child needed medical care, she was told that she should have thought about that before she came to the United States,” she wrote.

"Witnessing this type of treatment was heartbreaking."

- Woman from El Salvador seeking asylum in US


Well, well, well, well.......

Steve Fouga

Wow, a single testimonial about something that happened years ago, and didn't even include separating children from their parents! Color me CONVINCED!

What does this have to do with Trump systematically, purposefully, and for political gain, forcing the separations?

George Croix

Oh, come on...
A 'single testimonial' Time Magazine cover enfuriated most of the world, and it was FAKED....
Just like all the pretense that this is anything new...
Political gain?
Maybe.
How about the gain to USA Citizens from not being overrun with illegal aliens?
That doesn't matter....?

Bill Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnOpGI0qRhA
Hillary Clinton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxASD4jHgCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIUTolcK6Uc
There's a ton of these for her - a regular smorgasbord....
Barack Obama
(last half - first half is Bill again... this one is pieced together, but funny and illuminating anyway)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER43fQSUi5k

For once, They got it right.....

Steve Fouga

"How about the gain to USA Citizens from not being overrun with illegal aliens?
That doesn't matter....?"

It does matter, of course. I don't like illegal immigration, but I really LIKE immigration in general. I don't like cruel and demeaning anti-immigration measures. Let's control it rationally, through bipartisan legislation. Both sides have unsuccessfully pushed for a rational immigration policy in the past. If the Trump policy eventually leads to such, it will have been worth it, and I will gladly admit it. As for right now, I'm not optimistic.

George Croix

There's fault on both sides, but currently the Left will NOT vote for ANYTHING AT ALL...not even their own DACA cause celeb, so they claim, for the last nearly 10 years (!) that they shut down the Govt. for a couple days over less than 6 months ago...it's amnesty of nothing....or a rose by any other name.
DACA folks should bear that in mind....
And the right is too busy fighting among themselves to get squat done thanks to a dozen or so members ideologically as far right as their D collegues are far left, and who won't vote for anything except EXACTLY what they want.
We need 62 or 63 Senate seats, and don't lose over 10 or so in the House, or, with Maxine and Nancy's help gain 10 seats ( [wink]), so, imo, they're ALL blowing a chance to make things better, while waiting to make things perfect.
There's a lot of that going around, and not just in the U.S. Congress....
Supporters of the Freedom Caucus should look at the other side of the aisle and see that there's really no difference between ideological purity stances when the result either way is zero accomplished.
Supporters of the 'resistance' can't see at all, imo, because of a serious case of alimentary obstruction of view....
But, that's just imo....[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

ps:
If it were my call in total, I'd fire the whole darn, what, 535 or so, of them in both houses of Congress combined, and get two 9 year old kids to sit down next to a national phone directory and randomly point their finger while turning pages at 535 names. Then toss that 1070 names in a big bucket, and they take turns blind drawing the 535 and those are our new Congressmen.
Highly unlikley we'd be any worse off than now......

Steve Fouga

I don't think most congressional Dems want amnesty for all. They want 3 things: amnesty for the Dreamers, an overall rational policy, and no wall. Rational doesn't include amnesty for all.

George Croix

For about the last 18 months rational hasn't included Democrats at all on any subject...imo...[wink][smile]
The unhinged 'resistance'....
They should really be boiling over after this week is over with....and come about, oh, October, maybe....
I NEVER thought I'd find a single useful thing that Harry Reed ever did to help conservatives, but darned if his IED that he blew up the Senate with for 51 votes for SCOTUS appointments is looking poretty good right now.....
We'll see what happens....
A big series of spankings this week can always flip right around and be egg in your beer next week....

George Croix

ps:
That testimonial was 4 years ago....a blip in political time....not the last Ice Age.....[beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

"A top editor at Reuters apologized on Thursday night after blaming President Trump for the deadly Capital Gazette shooting in a now-deleted tweet that was sent during a “state of emotional distress,” but he might still be disciplined by the international news service.

Reuters Breakingviews Editor Rob Cox admitted that he “responded emotionally and inappropriately” after being called out for jumping to conclusions prior to the facts emerging. Police said the suspected gunman, eventually identified as Jarrod W. Ramos, targeted the newspaper after a lengthy feud regarding a 2012 defamation lawsuit.

“This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people. Blood is on your hands, Mr. President. Save your thoughts and prayers for your empty soul,” Cox wrote in the deleted tweet, according to TheWrap.

Cox apologized in a series of four tweets once it became clear that Ramos’ motive predated Trump entering the world of politics.


Biased? The news? Ya think....[beam][beam][beam][beam]
And, this isn't nearly as nutty as most of the 'resistance'.....
They're completely, doors falling off, unhinged....

Repeating:
“This is what happens when @realDonaldTrump calls journalists the enemy of the people."
Well, expanding on the utter hypcrisy of that, what exactly have the 'journalists' (and the others with them in the 'resistance') been saying about Pres. Trump!
Does this character and others like him not realize that the very words they use to incite others could be turned against them, and the same consequences they support against others be visisted upon them??
Guess not.
Maxine waters found out, so ask her.
Her insane calls for attacks on Trump Cabinet members and supporters was fine when she was surrounded by other screaming idiots. When ONE, ONE reporter accosted her about it the Capitol bldg. she freaked out and all but ran away.
The 'news' and the 'resistance' are the exact things they so oppose in others.

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