Charles Killebrew’s letter (“Trump was impressive, as seen in the number of votes,” The Daily News, Nov. 12) gives us much insight into him and about 40 million Republicans who will not accept mandate of the majority of Americans.

Department of Homeland Security has stated “this election was the most secure in history.”

Four years ago, I accepted Hillary Clinton’s defeat and Trump’s election. I was beyond unhappy, but I knew that the system worked and that I needed to “get on with it.”

Killebrew will never be able to accept the outcome of this election, that Trump lost or that the Democrats didn't cheat. He and those that think like him are doing Americans an incredible disservice and putting America at risk. How sad.

Tonka Lane

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Carlos Ponce

Be patient, Tonika.

What you're telling me is to accept that fraud is the new norm for electing presidents in this country. Has there been fraud in the past? Yes. But I don't have to accept it.

For FOUR years, Liberals dragged this country into hearings - each which exonerated Trump of Russian collusion : Senate Judiciary, FBI, House Judiciary, Mueller. Not satisfied the Trump haters impeached him which led to a not guilty verdict in the Senate.

the fraud in this election cycle is there. Let justice run its course. And don't you DARE tell me I am undermining this country. That's very Fascist of you.

LET FREEDOM RING!

Craig Mason

Trump kept giving the democrats reasons to drag him through hearings, the Ukraine call, the Russian assistance in the election, making children at the border orphans because their parents can’t be found, hiding his income and tax fraud. The Trump campaign wanted to collude with the Russians, but they were too stupid to do it. Now come on Carlos you can do math. These folks that blindly follow every conspiracy are the same ones who drink Kool in Guyana, dress in sweat suits and take cyanide so they can ascend to the mother ship and let their leader brand them with a hot iron. Your whole response makes you look like a fool, and I know you are not a fool. You have just been sucked in by a film flam man. Also I don’t have my glasses on but I think you misspelled the name of the author of the original letter.

Gary Miller

Craig> you are a failure of a flim flam man. I'll guess you have never watched a real news outlet but memorized all the liberal spin you ever heard. You and elephants have good memories but lack much inteligence.

Carlos Ponce

Craig Mason writes FICTION. Your post is nothing but LIES.

Craig Mason

well at least the part about the misspelled name is true. So I guess that makes you the liar.

Carlos Ponce

Craig, that was out of habit. I had a student in the past with a similar name.

Carlos Ponce

It's unnerving to think someone so misinformed as Craig Mason voted. The FBI, the House judiciary committee, the Senate judiciary committee, the Mueller report all concluded there was NO collusion between Team Trump and the Russians. But Craig still thinks it happened.

Craig Mason

It wasn't for lack of trying, they were just too stupid to pull it off.

Carlos Ponce

Making things up again, Craig? There is NO indication of this in any report - FBI, House, Senate or Mueller.

Craig Mason

Obviously you need to read Mueller report again

Carlos Ponce

I have it bookmarked, Thomas Carpenter. NO COLLUSION!

Carlos Ponce

Craig claims, "making children at the border orphans because their parents can’t be found". Big Guy Joe said that everyone returned for their hearing.... If so then why didn't they ask for their children? Did the Big Guy Lie?

Craig Mason

If You go to Chuckie Cheese they give you a hospital type wrist band for you and your child, to make sure you match up before you leave. That hopefully keeps someone else from walking out with your child. If the DHS would have followed the same protocol, we could at least have some way to match parents back up with children.

Carlos Ponce

They took the child's and parent's DNA, Craig. They found many did not match as child-parent. No wonder the adult did not return for the child. They knew there would be questions and possible incarceration if the home pais could not produce proof of adoption.

Dan Freeman

I am glad you have declared as an Ant-Fa(cist)! Count every legal vote. Let freedom ring and soon.

Carlos Ponce

[scared]Dan posted something Liberals don't like! "Count every LEGAL vote." That's what Trump supporters are saying, Dan!

Gary Miller

Progressives are willing to destroy the USA as long as they own the remains. The trump legal team has over 900 vouchers listing violations of election law with time, date and names. Each voucher was sworn to under penalty of perjury. The violations are felonies. Almost all are about counting illegal votes or illegaly counting votes that don't exist.

Thomas Carpenter

How about some proof?

Gary Miller

Thomas. If 900 affadavits signed under threat of perjury is not proof for you. Heaven help any jury you are on trying to explain what proof is.

Craig Mason

900 out of almost 160 million. Come Gary you can do math right? Or maybe I am giving you too much credit. Show us your evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome.

Carlos Ponce

Craig, each of the 900 can reference dozens, hundreds or even thousands of fraudulent votes.

Mike Zeller

After Jan. 20th the Office of the President and Bill Barr can no longer shield Trump from being indicted and prosecuted. Get ready Donald for the indictments and subpoenas, they are coming. I think the Southern District of New York has first dibs on a shot at Trump.

Carlos Ponce

Mike Zeller [thumbdown].

Michelle Aycoth

Trump will be President again in 2024 !

Andy Aycoth

Craig Mason

Trump probably won't be alive in 2024. He is an old fat man who doesn't exercise and is already losing his faculties.

Carlos Ponce

Craig, you are only as old as you act. Big Guy Biden is old and acts older.

Dan, there will be NO jail time for Trump.

Dan Freeman

Tough to be elected from jail

Bailey Jones

Since November 3rd, when Trump lost the election, over 15,000 more Americans have died from COVID. Where is the president?

Since November 3rd, when Trump lost the election, almost 2 million new COVID cases have been reported. Where is the president?

Since November 3rd, when Trump lost the election, he's done nothing but tweet and golf and pout. We have a new president in the wings, and Trump's inaction is making Biden look like the Energizer bunny.

Since November 3rd, when Trump lost the election, he's done nothing but obstruct the legitimate transition support that every president that isn't the worst ever has provided to his successor.

It's time for Trump to admit that he lost, and recognize the legitimate will of the American people. The majority has spoken. We're Trump-tired and weary. We've got a massive vaccine distribution plan that the new administration needs to get underway. We've got millions still unemployed and a new president who is ready and willing to do something about it.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, Trump did not lose. With NO state certifying their votes, the Electoral vote score is still 0 - 0.

Jose Luis Ochoa

Tonka Lane: Is it forty million people that voted for Trump or is seventy one million? Either way that is one heck of a lot of people who don't agree/trust or even much like many of you liberals. Have you not seen how "well" the trash talkers on the View accepted the Trump presidency? That said I think Biden should be given a chance.

Craig Mason

You watch the View?

Jim Forsythe

Biden’s popular vote 79,038,273 over Trump's 73,315,780 votes.

On January 20, 2021, at High Noon, Trump will be out of office.

Carlos Ponce

Jim posted "Biden’s popular vote 79,038,273" - That includes zombie votes, double votes, computer generated votes, etc.

Readers, note Jim never answered my question: Do you REALLY think Biden got more votes than Obama???

No need to answer, Jim. We know the answer.[innocent]

Jim Forsythe

Biden’s popular vote 79,038,273 over Trump's 73,315,780 votes.

On January 20, 2021, at High Noon, Trump will be out of office

Carlos Ponce

That includes zombie votes, double votes, computer generated votes, etc.

Jim Forsythe

Total votes,79,038,273 .

Carlos Ponce

That includes zombie votes, double votes, computer generated votes, etc.

George Soros

Trump and his buddies are 0-10 in bringing cases to the courts, its not looking good for the Trumpeters

Carlos Ponce

As Rudy Giuliani said, they were expected in a Blue State with Democrat Party elected judges. But they have to take that step before approaching the Federal Courts.

Virginia Stone

They will have to drag President Trump out of the white house kicking and screaming and Carlos and company will go to their graves swearing the election was stolen. Arguing with a closed minded idealogue is a waste of time and it will never change the mind of a person who doesn't understand the difference between substantiated facts and opinion These are the people who disagree with any and all varifiable information if it is contrary to what they believe in their heart of hearts, I pray that the people who listen only to their hearts and like minded people are one day able to see it's ok to be mistaken in your beliefs.

Carlos Ponce

Wait and see what happens Virginia.

Carlos Ponce

Peter Neffenger is Chairman of the Board of Directors of Smartmatic.

Smartmatic provided the computer software that transferred votes for President Trump to Big Guy Biden.

Peter Neffenger has been named to Joe Biden's Transition Team.

How's that expression go? "The chickens have come home to roost."

I can see all the Liberal pundits in these forums flailing their arms saying, "NOTHING HERE! NOTHING HERE!"

Jim Forsythe

On Sunday, Powell cited Neffenger's name while discussing the legal team's accusations against Dominion Voting Systems because he is chairman on the board of directors at Smartmatic, another company that designs electronic voting systems. Smartmatic released a statement clarifying that it is not associated with Dominion Voting Systems, and that in fact "the two companies are competitors in the marketplace."

Carlos Ponce

Dominion provides the equipment for voting and vote tabulation.

Smartmatic provided the software.

Note that Smartmatic has removed the link to their "statement" on their website. No need to wonder why.

Jim Forsythe

FROM DOMINION VOTING:

DOMINION IS NOT, AND HAS NEVER BEEN, OWNED BY SMARTMATIC.

Dominion is an entirely separate company and a fierce competitor to Smartmatic.

Dominion and Smartmatic do not collaborate in any way and have no affiliate relationships or financial ties.

Dominion does not use Smartmatic software.

The only associations the companies have ever had were:

- In 2009, Smartmatic licensed Dominion machines for use in the Philippines. The contract ended in a lawsuit.

- In 2010, Dominion purchased certain assets from Sequoia, a private U.S. Company. Smartmatic, a previous owner of Sequoia, pursued legal actions against Dominion.

Carlos Ponce

No one ever claimed Dominion was owned by Smartmatic.

What you post has diddly squat to do with the issue at hand, Jim.

Jim Forsythe

Dominion does not use Smartmatic software.

Robert Braeking

Dominion® bought and adapted the Smartmatic® software. If you are in a den of thieves it is not hard to locate a thief.

Robert Braeking

Democrats cheat in elections. That is well known. This the opportunity of the Coronavirus during this election has emboldened them to step up their cheating to unprecedented levels. That is why in precincts that are run by Democrats need to be watched to limit their cheating. But when the poll watchers are illegally excluded from watching the process such as they were during this vote count, you can be sure that they were excluded for a reason. That reason was Democrat cheating. Why would States suspend counting? In order to fabricate enough votes to prevail. It takes time to forge tens of thousands of ballots. How were Dominion® voting machines designed? To include a 'glitch' that can be manipulated by the operators to change results. We got a clue to this in Michigan. Now analysis of the software has confirmed that it is possible to change the count. If it can be done it will be done. Even democrats Warren and Klobichar have complained about this possibility. Why must the data be held on a server in Frankfort? Why do we use foreign manufactured machines?

Honesty in elections can be ensured with a couple of safeguards. Every voter should be issued a code by which to vote. The database should be available online to check that the vote assigned to that code is accurate. Voter ID should be the standard. Mail-in ballots should be only solicited. They should also be postmarked by such a date as to be available to count on or before election day. Cyber security should be a priority in storing and tabulating the vote. This is the 21st century. Precincts should be able to report within minutes of the poll's closing. Any delay in precinct reporting can only be attributable to possible cheating.

Joe Biden: "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”

Bailey Jones

"There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

“59 election security experts all agree, in every case of which we are aware, these claims either have been unsubstantiated or are technically incoherent."

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history."

- Christopher Krebs, head of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency in the Department of Homeland Security that oversees election security.

Trump - "You're fired!"

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/17/936007888/trump-tweets-that-he-fired-top-cybersecurity-official-christopher-krebs

https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/11/12/joint-statement-elections-infrastructure-government-coordinating-council-election

tick tock ...

Carlos Ponce

Bailey writes, "There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

I have to call BULLSCHIFF on this one Bailey.

How many votes were not counted in Georgia? They've discovered THOUSANDS, most for Trump. They once were LOST but now are FOUND. And the re-count continues......

"The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history." That refers to cybersecurity only. That came from the Cybersecurity chief. That's refers to other countries hacking or trying to hack into our election system. That's NOT what's happening, Bailey.

Yes, fire him because he would not elaborate on what he meant by that statement.

Just wait, Bailey, just wait.

Robert Braeking

I couldn't agree less, Bailey. There is a preponderance of evidence before the courts as we speak. The cases must be adjudicated before you will know if there is or is not any evidence.

As for your 59 election security experts, who are they and what are their credentials. Deciding if there is fraud based on consensus of 59 (they couldn't have possibly examined the elections in all 50 states) so-called experts do not have legal standing. We deal in fact not opinion.

Cyber attacks from without and manipulation of the data are two different issues. Also fraudulent data input based on fraudulent ballots has nothing to do with cyber security. It is what the kicked out poll watchers were supposed to be watching.

Krebs was probably a clandestine deep state operative. Only his boss would know.

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