Attempted witness tampering in a federal felony prosecution is not a matter to be taken lightly. If special counsel Robert Mueller's allegations about this are correct, Paul Manafort has been treating the U.S. District Court and judge presiding over this case, as well as Mueller, the U.S. Department of Justice, and federal criminal law, with the utmost contempt.

Assuming that Mueller can support these allegations with legally admissible and credible evidence (and he has an excellent track record thus far), the court must determine how to deal with this. It will be up to the court's discretion, but in my view, the court should terminate Manafort's home confinement, remand him to a federal prison without bail awaiting trial, confiscate all his communication devices pending trial, and prohibit him from communicating or having contact with anyone pending trial except for his attorneys, spouse and children.

Following the conclusion of the trial, the court should also give consideration to these actions along with any other crimes Manafort is found guilty of in determining what overall sentence of imprisonment would be appropriate.

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Jack Reeves

Really Ed? Hillary lied to Congress, destroyed evidence, destroyed records, cell phones, etc. I don't mind who they lock up in D.C. but, the same standard should be applied to everyone.

Carlos Ponce

Is the ALLEGED witness tampering real or just another thumbscrew from Herr Mueller? Herr Mueller has a history of making mountains out of molehills. Herr Mueller acts more like a Gestapo or KGB interrogator with every indictment and allegation. When these nefarious groups couldn't get the man they wanted they put the squeeze on those around them. Example, Michael Flynn. Mueller threatened to go after his son unless General Flynn "confessed". Not very American but very Gestapo--like.
Extreme Leftist Slate posts "The Paul Manafort Witness-Tampering Evidence Is Really, Really Strong-The case against him easily meets the necessary standard for probable cause." Is it?

Emile Pope

Comparing members of the Justice Department to Nazis and KGB members simply because you don't like the people they are investigating? How can anyone with common sense take them seriously ever again...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, remember that when Herr Mueller comes after you and yours. It is not the American way.

Micheal Byrd

Carlos... I normally like your factual responses and agree with a lot of what you say. I too believe Mueller is a tool of the left. Having said that, I think it is beneath us as conservatives, to use the Nazi analogy. As I have chided many on the left which frequently use the same analogy to refer to President Trump, it is both an intellectually lazy argument and shows a tragic lack of historical perspective. Keep writing my friend.

Carlos Ponce

"I think it is beneath us as conservatives, to use the Nazi analogy." Thank you for your opinion. But history has traveled this path before and it was not pretty. The Fascist pattern is there. An old Earth saying: Those who ignore history are DOOMED to repeat it. "lack of historical perspective"???? No. just facing the facts. Be alert, my friend. I have eyes and I see. I have ears and I hear. I have a brain - and I'm not afraid to use it.

Cary Semar

I am inclined to believe that Robert Mueller is innocent until proven guilty.

Gary Miller

I believe Mueller has been proven guilty and is awaiting sentencing. Standing eyeball deep in major DNC crimes he ignores them all to harrass RNC small fry.

Gary Miller

Manafort was convicted of money crimes in the Ukrain in 2007. The conviction was under appeal. If his name was"Clinton" Mueller would have ignored it.

Steve Fouga

You guys are stooping to a new low. Even Manafort's friends aren't defending him. He is detestable, un-American, and a crook. Maybe he can look to you as character witnesses in the multiple trials he is likely to endure.

As for Hillary, if you want to see her prosecuted, write to the President, the AG, and the Republican leadership in Congress. They're in charge.

Carlos Ponce

Don't worry about Hillary. The first IG report concerns only the investigation of her, but a future IG report will reveal her felonies. Her day will come. Maybe some future president will pardon her.
As for Manafort, don't worry about him either.
Many active duty FBI agents are chomping at the bit to testify about former FBI Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. And Herr Mueller will also be included. Andrew McCabe wants immunity for his testimony.

Jim Forsythe

Robert Mueller is an American lawyer and civil servant. A member of the Republican Party .
Special counsel Robert Mueller has brought additional charges against President Donald Trump's campaign chairman and a longtime associate, accusing them of obstructing justice.
The new charges were unsealed Friday against Paul Manafort and Konstantin Kilimnik just days after prosecutors accused the two men of attempting to tamper with witnesses as Manafort awaits trial of felony charges related to his work on behalf of Ukrainian interests.
The indictment charges both men with obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice related to contacts they had with two witnesses earlier this year. The witnesses, who had worked with Manafort as he represented a pro-Russian political party in Ukraine, have told the FBI that they believed Manafort and Kilimnik were trying to get them to lie about the nature of their work.

Carlos Ponce

"A member of the Republican Party ." Doesn't act like one. A person may call himself anything he wants. If Jim Forsythe said he was Miss America, should we believe him?

Emile Pope

if he has irrefutable proof...

Carlos Ponce

"if he has irrefutable proof..." Ooooh, Emile can be convinced of anything , if it comes from a Leftist.[ohmy]

Jim Forsythe

"A member of the Republican Party ." Doesn't act like one. " What does a Republican act like ? Do all Republicans act the same? The President can have him removed, so it's up to Trump. If he does not remove him, he must think that Mueller is doing a good job.

A person may call himself anything he wants. If Jim Forsythe said he was Miss America, should we believe him?
If I told you that, yes. Now that the swim suit is not part of it ,maybe.
Thanks for thinking I would have a chance

George Croix

Steve, don't you want to see people who've done as bad or worse than Manafort prosecuted?
Yeah, it's somebody else's job to do it, but doesn't it matter that it hasn't been done?

Emile Pope

They'll get to Trump and his criminal family in due time...

Carlos Ponce

You sound like Margaret Hamilton, Emile.

George Croix

They'll get to Bill and Hillary and their family and friends crime syndicate in due time, too....
No longer a political power and influence factor, the big c's are no longer capitalized, and no longer command absolute MSM protection, and no longer command the attention and 'donation' of hundreds of millions by the Russians and the ME and the mega-rich Dems buying access...which are the only reasons it hasn't happened yet.
Maybe they'll all end up in prison together...bipartisan prison sentences!!!
Red and blue jumpsuits!!!
That's be an Orville Redenbacher moment, for sure.....

Steve Fouga

"Steve, don't you want to see people who've done as bad or worse than Manafort prosecuted?"

Yes, George, I do. Hillary is not a priority for me, though.

Like I've said before, I'm fine with the Govt going after to Hillary and anyone else who have committed crimes. I'm not a Clinton fan by any means. But I don't obsess over her, one way or the other. I do obsess over the Russia thing, just like President Trump does.

Carlos Ponce

" I'm not a Clinton fan by any means. I do obsess over the Russia thing....'
So the Clinton campaign paying for a dossier from Russian sources should bother you...... I think." [unsure]

Steve Fouga

Nah. You've been duped, Carlos. The dossier was assembled by a former British spy. The fact that he used Russian sources just means that there were possible Trump Campaign crimes INVOLVING RUSSIA. Please don't allow yourself to be duped by traitorous, propaganda-spewing right-wing media, Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

Steve posts: "Nah. You've been duped, Carlos. The dossier was assembled by a former British spy."
How about a Liberal source like the Washington Post?
"Clinton campaign, DNC paid for research that led to Russia dossier"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html?utm_term=.0675d9761134
No? How about the Liberal New York Times?
"Clinton Campaign and Democratic Party Helped Pay for Russia Trump Dossier"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/24/us/politics/clinton-dnc-russia-dossier.html
No? How about Liberal CNN?
"Clinton campaign, DNC helped fund dossier research"
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/24/politics/fusion-gps-clinton-campaign/index.html
I could give you MORE but I don't want you to feel dupid.[whistling]

Steve Fouga

I misunderstood your post, Carlos. I thought you were saying I should be bothered by the Russian sources, when you really meant I should be bothered by the Clinton campaign paying for the dossier.

Turns out I'm not bothered by either. I'm GLAD they instigated the dossier, and I'm fine with Steele using Russian sources.

Carlos Ponce

So Steve Fouga likes Russian interference in our elections as long as the DNC instigated a bought and paid for and fabricated Russian dossier. Talk about COLLUSION! Does this mean you TRUST the Russians? Sure looks like it.

Steve Fouga

You're short on logic for a math teacher.

Carlos Ponce

And you Steve Fouga are short on facts.

George Croix

NONE of them are a priority in my life, Steve, and my only obsession with any of them is wanting Joe and Jack to both be treated equally for the same things done. Joe should not go to prison and Bill go on a speaking tour when both did the same thing(s).
In other words, I'm really out of place in 2018......
I don't much care about the Russians anymore, and that started when convincing a few thousand or even a few million gullible people who believe everything they see on Facebook to act in some way was treated as worse than violating the laws and playing loose with top secrets or killing 4 Americans by omission.....
Hillary lost because she was deeply unpopular with enough people who did care...
Trump won by default...because Hillary lost.....
Anybody with a pulse knows the Rissians and Chinese and Everybody Else has been messing in our business since Day 1, and to say otherwise is exactly why we are now looking for a crime to hang on the people who've been picked to be guilty of something or other.....
Maybe they are, but the 'justice system' is working in reverse too much these days.... s

Paula Flinn

I agree with you, Mr. Sullivan.

Carlos Ponce

Of course you do![rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

A federal judge scheduled a hearing for June 15 about whether to revoke or revise bail for Paul Manafort, the former chairman of President Donald Trump's campaign. If he did not follow the terms set out by the court, he will have his supervised release changed or eliminated.
This is about, did he follow the requirements for his supervised release ,not his guilt for what he is charged with and will face the judge at a latter date.
FBI accused Manafort of attempting to tamper with witness testimony and subsequently asked the court to revoke or restrict the terms of Manafort's release.
This is about Manafort not following the terms of his supervised release, not about Muller, Hillary, McCabe., Comey or anyone except Manafort.

Carlos Ponce

Not about Mueller? Really????? Isn't he the one making the accusations?
Mueller has a history of going judge and court shopping so things will look bad when Manafort's bail is revised or revoked. But don't worry about it.
U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson is a BARACK OBAMA appointee. The court is United States District Court for the District of Columbia. No surprises here.[rolleyes]

Emile Pope

Another sale on tinfoil at Walmart I see...

Carlos Ponce

Emile Pope keeps up on sales of tinfoil at WalMart.....not unexpected.

Emile Pope

I just see what you wrote. Easier than going to the website...

Carlos Ponce

Wonder what size tinfoil Emile uses. Didn't know they made one large enough to fit his inflated ego.[wink]

Jim Forsythe


Mueller is not the one accused of not following what the Judge orders.
The Judge will determine if he followed his requirements set by a Judge.
Why would you think I would worry about it. A Judge is the one that will decided what needs to happen.

George Croix

Why bother with a Judge, Jim?
Just getting the FBI Director to make the call.....[beam][smile][wink]

Jim Forsythe


Required by law. The FBI Director is not allowed to decided if he violated his probation.
The Judge will determine if Manafort attempting to tamper with witness testimony and other things . If the Judge decides that he did, the Judge may revoke or revise his bail.

Carlos Ponce

" If the Judge decides that he did...."
Not a foregone conclusion but it is likely despite the facts.

George Croix

"Required by law."

No No No No Jim.
Not anymore.
The FBI Director now has the power to bypass the rest of the DoJ and even the AG and just go on national TV and declare someone guilty, but not gonna prosecute anyway....
Where ya been these last 2 years.....[beam][beam][beam][beam]

I didn't say you'd worry about anything, old friend....
I've always known you to be one of the coolest heads in the room...

Jim Forsythe

Being declared guilty by someone other than a Judge, does not make it so.
Just as someone declares that he is not guilty, does not make it so.
If someone wants to believe otherwise, it does not change the facts.

George Croix

The facts are that an absolutely guilty of multiple felonies person, along with several 'aids' equally guilty of same, is/are walking around free BECAUSE a judge was never alllowed to preside over a case against her after an indictment by a grand jury because one was never empanelled, because it would look real bad to decide months ahead of time to cut her loose no matter what then have to chance a grand jury deciding that they weren't in the tank for her.
Jim, no judge ever put Al Capone away for anything other than income tax evasion, so he didn't really kill people then.......

Emile Pope

Hillary Clinton was guilty on no crime. Conspiracy theories are not facts. Produce facts instead of made up FoxNews lies. And evidence to support your comments...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, Comey read off a litany of crimes committed by Hillary Clinton but chose to do nothing. Double standard?

Emile Pope

No he didn't. But facts don't matter to a trump supporter...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, you don't remember the controversy from James Comey's 15 minute speech on July 5, 2016?
"Mr. Comey rebuked Mrs. Clinton as being 'extremely careless' in using a private email address and server. He raised questions about her judgment, contradicted statements she has made about her email practices, said it was possible that hostile foreign governments had gained access to her account, and declared that a person still employed by the government — Mrs. Clinton left the State Department in 2013 — could have faced disciplinary action for doing what she did."
"To warrant a criminal charge, Mr. Comey said, there had to be evidence that Mrs. Clinton intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information. The F.B.I. found neither, and as a result, he said, 'our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.' "
Problem is that "intent" is not part of the statutes. Remember the US sailor who took pictures aboard a US vessel. No "intent" there needed to be proved yet he was still persecuted.
Comey "contradicted statements she [Hillary] has made about her email practices. The rest of the world calls that LYING.
And yet, after all that - NOTHING was done.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-fbi-email-comey.html
Want more? Then read "The Daily 202: Clinton’s credibility gap widens after FBI rebuke" Washington Post July 6, 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/07/06/daily-202-clinton-s-credibility-gap-widens-after-fbi-rebuke/577bff0c981b92a22d5b2044/
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http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=FBI+Director+James+Comeys+15+minute+announcement+Tuesday+July+5%2c+2016+that+he+will+not+refer+criminal+charges+to+the+Justice+Department+against+Clinton&d=5014268716778872&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=BhS99u8Cgq_oOaJmpBebsw4E1mr0xLkW

Emile Pope

Garbage. What crime did she commit? And what about the other people who did the same thing? The Republicans...

Carlos Ponce

Emile asks, "What crimes did she [Hillary] commit?"
Destruction of evidence. Hammered her Blackberrys or ordered someone to do it. Used BleachBit to obliterate data on subpoenaed emails.
List of crimes compiled by Federal statute:
18USC§201 Bribery
18USC§208 Acts Effecting A Personal Financial Interest (Includes Recommendations)
18USC§371 Conspiracy
18USC§1001 False Statements
18USC§1341 Frauds And Swindles (Mail Fraud)
18USC§1343 Fraud By Wire
18USC§1349 Attempt And Conspiracy (To Commit Fraud)18USC§1505 Obstruction Of Justice
18USC§1519 Destruction (Alteration Or Falsification) Of Records In Federal Investigation
18USC§1621 Perjury (Including Documents Signed Under Penalties Of Perjury)
18USC§1905 Disclosure Of Confidential Information
18USC§1924 Unauthorized Removal And Retention Of Classified Documents Or Material
18USC§2071 Concealment (Removal Or Mutilation) Of Government Records
18USC§7201 Attempt To Evade Or Defeat A Tax (Use Of Clinton Foundation Funds For Personal Or Political Purposes)
18USC§7212 Attempts To Interfere With Administration Of Internal Revenue Laws (Call To IRS On Behalf Of UBS Not Turning Over Accounts To IRS)

Emile Pope

Garbage. What proof do you have that she committed those offenses? Listing a bunch of laws and saying that she broke them isn't evidence. PROOF!!!

Carlos Ponce

Again Emile asks for "PROOF!
I could provide you scores of PROOF but you would just label each "GARBAGE". Not worth the effort. Your mind is closed and your eyes are shut to truth.

Emile Pope

If you could, you would have provided it. Useless blather...

Carlos Ponce

No, Emile, plenty out there but as the movie line goes "You can't handle the TRUTH!" Why should I bother with a closed mind?

Emile Pope

But then the general told the truth...

Carlos Ponce

So tell the truth, open your mind to the possibility you could be WRONG. But the only reply we get from Emile Pope to anyone's effort to present researched posts is "GARBAGE". Have a nice life.

George Croix

Giuess it's another one of those one-sided political thingys, rather than just the criminal acts themselves.....

George Croix

Personally, I think Manafort is a sleeze and almost certain to be found guilty.
A Grand Jury indictment is nothing to sneeze at.
But I do wonder why his case ever made it to a grand jury.
It does seem odd that one was empanelled for such a relatively in the big scheme of things minor compared-to-others offense, when there never even was a grand jury put together to weigh solid, indisputable, evidence of numerous felonies and violations of the Espionage Act, by multiple players.....far greater crimes. And, even odder that some of the key player 'investigators' then are still 'investigating' now.

Hmmmm...one might reasonably conclude that this White House, for all it's 'tweets' and indignation and bombastic comments, has yet to directly interfere to control the direction of an investigation, and pre-ordain an outcome.
No 'tarmac meetings'. No 'insurance policy'. No 'draft exhoneration' months before the subject is even interviewed.

The absolute hypocrisy of it all is mind boggling. I thought it was a relatively fringe element of hard core headcases who really 'didn't care' what they did.."no matter what'....
But, no...otherwise sane people will excuse anything, and/or side step by saying 'that's in the past' or some other deflection.
It's a freeking shame that crime, serious crime, national security issues related crime, has been reduced in this country to a spectator sport, where the spectators and players wear only red and blue, and the only rule is 'my side must win'....

A viewer from afar might well conclude that sucks....

George Croix

18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information

Emile Pope

Title 18 of the U.S. Code, Section 798 prohibits the KNOWING AND WILLFUL TRANSMITTAL OF SPECIFIED CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO AN UNAUTHORIZED PERSON, but it pertains only to information relating to the communications intelligence systems and activities of the United States. How does this apply to Hillary Clinton? Who did she provide the information to? Facts not garbage...

George Croix

The obvious question is nobody will ever know ALL who got it, because her unsecured private server was available for anybody able to hack the equivalent of the Target Stores computer system, having actually less level of security than that, and Target customers got zapped pretty bad......
Then, there's Anthony Weiner, Sid Blumenthall, her ENTIRE team of personal lawyers who read/trashed e-mails, the IT guy who set up the unauthorized private server, multiple unsecured/private communications devices (pre-hammered to pieces) all able to be hacked by any 15 year old tech savvy kid, etc etc etc
It applies to Hillary Clinton because SHE was responsible for the information sent to her...unless you'd like to argue that Sec. of Defense has nothing to do with United States activities and intelligence info....she even had to sign that she KNEW she was, and had been instructed what her responsibilities were. She even wrote a memo to HER State Dept. underlings instructing them NOT to handle info like she was already doing herself...
Even Rip van Winkle would know that.....even if they'd been watching CN
and ABC
Comey/Lynch/Obama letting her slide was only good IF she won - she didn't....

Somehow, Pope, I expect you will disagree......
Well, you've got millions of like-minded 'don't care what she did' fellow enthusiasts

Emile Pope

Unless you have proof that she provided information to unauthorized people, what you have is nothing but a bunch of supposition. And that is garbage....

George Croix

I GAVE it to you, Pope.
A sand flea in the middle of the Sahara knows that Weiner had classified info on his laptop, and Hillary herself said her lawyers, with ZERO security clearance, reviewed her emails, as but two of those listed.
But, if you want to be a charicature, that's your business....

George Croix

Thanks for the comic relief, Pope.
You are PROOF positive that 'no matter what she did' is alive and well....
Unfortunately, I don't have a 'link' to that, but, if you'll just look in the morror....[beam][beam][beam]
Gotta go entertain the Grandkids now.

Emile Pope

Where did she say this. Provide sources other than your opinion.

George Croix

ps:
Facts, not diversion and outright lies....

George Croix

18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

Emile Pope

Does not apply to Hillary Clinton...

Carlos Ponce

Keep dreaming, Emile. Her indictment is on its way.

George Croix

Bunk.

George Croix

You mean the Hillary Clinton who was Sec. of State, and who most definitely does fit the bill, or the Hillary Clinton candidate of 'we don't care what she did' fame...?
[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

Pope, if you ever get subpoened by the US Congress to provide information to an investigative committee, then get called to testify before them and also by the FBI, and along the way destroy thousands of pieces of evidence under subpeona, bleach bit/wipe the main device in question, and have your lackeys hammer your phones to pieces, let me know your new address in federal prison, and I'll send you a Christmas card each year...
Doesn't apply to her....now THAT is funny.....[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-08-19/sailor-denied-clinton-deal-gets-1-year-in-prison-for-6-photos-of-sub

George Croix

Not to worry.
Those 'above top secret' things stored on her potty closet server were 'guarded by the Secret Service' outside.....[beam][beam]
That sailor had 'no intent' to disclose classified information, but went to prison because 'intent' is NOT part of that law...the mishandling itself is the crime...for all except Hillary. Ask Gen. Petreus, who at least locked his stuff up in his desk drawer.
Try doing that 'no intent' stuff yourself with anything , and you'll be asking for 'proof' that you are not really in the pen dodging Big Mo.
...I know it's a waste fo time presenting any facts to you, Pope, but I try not to give up easily on my fellow man....

Emile Pope

What information did Hillary Clinton disclose. And who did she disclose it to?

George Croix

Well, I admit, Pope, you had me suckered all this time. Shame on me.
I thought you were simply an ideologue who occassionally sold a little bait.
But this latest series of exchanges pretty much disproves that, and goes right to troll status.
Ya got me beat - I see no purpose in even trying to exchange with someone who always replies with the functional equivalent of saying that water is not wet unless there is proof it is. Nobody is so disconnected that they don't know the facts of this discussion, ergo, denying them is just another troll dodge.
I played right into it.
Have a nice life.

Emile Pope

I do. The quickest way to quiet a trumpster is to ask for proof. Now everyone knows it.

Carlos Ponce

To bad there is no way to quiet a Trump hater. All we get is "GARBAGE" when PROOF IS PROVIDED.

Steve Fouga

George posts: "Comey/Lynch/Obama letting her slide was only good IF she won - she didn't...."

That may be true of Comey and Lynch. On the other hand, I believe a President DOES have the right to let a person "slide" when it comes to national security matters. It appears President Obama did "let her slide," and so I would say she's immune to prosecution for her security messups.

George Croix

By that measure, Pres. trump can just say he's decided that if there were any crimes committed by any of his staff they don't or won't matter...he'll let 'em slide, and they are forever immune from prosecution for them even after he's left office.
Anyway, why would Comey and Lynch not be immune from prosecution under your interesting take on the legal outlook of it all? Surely you don't think they acted independently of the Oval Office with that tarmac meeting and TV absolution? why would Obama not want to cover them all?
Maybe because he was the one who smashed her devices with a hammer.....
[beam][beam]
Anyway, unless AG Sessions can ever conviince himself he has a job and not just a position, the practical effect is you are right - nothing will happen to any of them.....

Steve Fouga

"unless AG Sessions can ever conviince himself he has a job and not just a position"

Well put. I've wondered for months -- well, ever since Sessions was confirmed -- why he didn't aggressively pursue the cases against the Clintons and other Obama-era officials, that Republicans have long been clamoring for. It's because he doesn't view his position as a job. In fairness to Sessions, the president has consistently made it clear that he views the AG's situation -- position or job -- as temporary.

George Croix

EVERY job I ever had was 'temporary', even the 36 year long one. Unless I was able to convince my employer that keeping me saved him more money than getting rid of me, the paychecks would have stopped.
Actually, Sessions is in a VERY good place to just ride it out and do as little as possible, and it has nothing to do with any anger at Pres. Trump's public flogging of him, one, imo, he richly deserves for taking a job he had no intention of doing. He's safe as long as there are not 60 Rep votes in the Senate. The Senate would NEVER vote to affirm another AG before 2020, and as long as McConnell decides to play fair instead of dropping nukes like the Other Side did, and would cheerfully and often do again at any and all opportunities, Sessions ain't going nowhere.....and the way he's acted as what's supposed to be AG, it's unliley anubody'd want him for another job, or be elected to the Senate again.
He's in a 'safe space'...for now...and knows it....
Like a Plant Manager's hunting or fishing buddy, who's utterly useless as anything else, but is 'safe' until that manager leaves....

Carlos Ponce

There was and still is speculation that Obama issued a "secret pardon" for Hillary upon her defeat.
See "Can the president issue 'secret” pardons'?"
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/pardons.pdf
"So while the President might issue a 'secret' pardon, the recipient would ultimately have to produce the pardon in order to reap its benefits."
Sounds like a "Keep out of Jail Free" card.

Emile Pope

No there isn’t.

Carlos Ponce

Look up "speculation" in the dictionary, Emile. Plenty of articles on the internet concerning the topic but why bother. Your mind is closed.

Emile Pope

speculation isn't fact and is therefore useless except to conspiracy theorists...

Carlos Ponce

I never presented it as fact but many believe it actually will occur. Don't be surprised if when the indictments come forward, Hillary pulls a "Keep out of jail" card.

Emile Pope

That's trump you're think of...

Carlos Ponce

You must have sight or reading problem. I definitely posted "Hillary".

Emile Pope

trump's the one looking to pardon himself...

Carlos Ponce

No Emile.
"President Trump on Monday asserted an 'absolute right' to pardon himself of any federal crimes but said he has no reason to do so because he has not engaged in any wrongdoing."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-he-has-absolute-right-to-pardon-himself-of-federal-crimes-but-denies-any-wrongdoing/2018/06/04/3d78348c-67dd-11e8-bea7-c8eb28bc52b1_story.html
Being able to legally do something but saying he has no reason to do so and therefore will not is not the same as "trump's the one looking to pardon himself..."

Emile Pope

Garbage. No president can pardon himself. End of discussion.

Carlos Ponce

Again whenever you disagree with something, we get "garbage" from Emile. Do the research. Legal minds say a president may pardon himself or herself with the exception of impeachment. There were many articles written by Liberals in 2016 how Hillary could pardon herself after assuming the office of President which became moot once she lost. Instead of researching the topic, Emile just gives us "garbage". President Trump WILL NOT pardon himself. No need to. He has not done anything illegal. Do the research, Emile. Go to your favorite search engine and type in "Can a president pardon himself". There is writing from those with a LEGAL background saying the president may pardon anyone with the exception of impeachment. Chief among these is the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES written in 1787. The Constitution is all the PROOF you really need.

Emile Pope

Making a series of inane comments and providing nothing to back them? Sad and totally predictable. Be sure to respond when you can provide substantiation...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, you're beyond hope. You must be too lazy to look up the facts or afraid you will find you are WRONG! The CONSTITUTION is all the PROOF you need. But there's more if BOTHER to look it up.

Emile Pope

Not my job...

Carlos Ponce

Not your job to seek the truth? Your posts make you sound ignorant. The truth is there but only if you take the time.

Emile Pope

Not my job to prove your point. That's another failure on your part...

Carlos Ponce

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