I'm asking all my fellow Galveston County residents to please help me in supporting HB-1359, the Texas Independence Referendum Act, filed by state Rep. Kyle Biedermann. This act will allow Texans a vote on how we're governed in the future.

Contrary to popular belief, this bill doesn't allow Texas to secede from the Union. What it does do is give Texans the right to vote on whether or not a legislative committee should be formed to research if and how Texas could peacefully secede from the United States and once again become an independent nation state.

While it seems that our local state Rep. Mayes Middleton has appeared to do a good job thus far, he's "on the fence" on this matter. What that tells me is that he's not quite sure that we as residents should have a say in how we live and are governed.

This to me is an issue of great concern. No elected official should vote based on their opinion or feelings on an issue in the legislature, especially on issues such as this. Bottom line, this should be on the ballot for the people to decide. Learn more on how you can help at tnm.me.

John Robinson

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(35) comments

Robert Braeking

Lest the naysayers failed to comprehend, the bill only places the question on the ballot in November. Even if it passes voter muster it does not authorize secession but rather gives the legislature the go-ahead to explore the process. I have no idea why this bill would not get unanimous consent of the legislature, Middleton included.

Mark Stevens

This is, nuts. With toady representatives like Senator Ted Cruz, we'll be lucky if Texas isn't kicked out of the Union and given back to, well, Mexico--if they'd have us.

Gary Miller

Mark> If Texas were to seccede Mexico might ask Texas to annex Mexico.

Gary Miller

If Texas secedded Ted Cruz would be elected the first President of Texas.

Gary Scoggin

And the last.

Ted Gillis

Anybody who considers this bill to be worthy, needs to stand behind a horses rear end, while I go ahead and goose said horse.

Carlos Ponce

Sounds like Ted Gillis has practice doing this.

Gary Scoggin

Mayes, please get off the fence and acknowledge this bill is a nutty waste of time.

Gary Scoggin

This has already been settled by the Supreme Court, Texas v. White, 1869. It was a 5-3 decision affirming that states, including Texas, had no unilateral right to secede.

Ted Gillis

I've heard that before Gary, but I never knew the settled case name and date.

I wonder though, is there a provision in that case that prevents the rest of the 49 states from kicking us out, after they get tired of us crying and misbehaving like like little spoiled babies.

Bailey Jones

This is never going to happen. The people who want secession are the same people who want Trump as president. You can't have both. (Although, oddly, you can get sedition with either.)

Carlos Ponce

"The people who want secession are the same people who want Trump as president. " Any proof of that statement? Sounds like Bailey just made it up out of thin air.

Gary Miller

Seccede no! Texas has right to become 5 states. Five Texas States would trump progressive plan to get four new Senators. Four new Texas states would have eight more Senators.

Gary Scoggin

I find dividing into five states a much more interesting proposition, I'd love to get to draw the map. My first inclination would be to base the new states around the four largest cities, Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin with the fitfh state maybe taking in West Texas and the Panhandle but there are a bunch of ways you could do this.

Bailey Jones

Petropolis

Banksylvania

Tacovia

Weirdostan

Jesusland

Carlos Ponce

Careful, Bailey. Liberals will cast you out of their group for suggesting "Tacovia" considering it not politically correct.

Mark Stevens

In 1861, a bunch of Texans were talking "secession" from the union. President Sam Houston warned against it, and was run out of office. The secessionists got their way; they lost the war they wanted; and Texas suffered horribly. In later years, some of the secessionists (Sul Ross, for instance) had to apply for pardons lest they be branded forever as "traitors". Think about it.

Bailey Jones

In school books for the New Republic of Texas (assuming they decide to have schools) "traitors" will be rebranded as "patriots", so this won't be a problem.

I wonder how much of a tax increase it will take to pay for all of the US government facilities that the New Republic will need to buy from the feds? JSC, Ellington Field, 15 military bases, every post office in the state, 100s of federal courthouses and other buildings, 14 federal prisons, etc. Of course, Dems in Washington might be willing to write the whole thing off in exchange for a bulletproof majority in the senate and an end to Republican presidential victories.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, how much did the newly formed United States pay for former British forts, government offices, consulates, etc. Answer: ZILCH. NOTHING, NADA!

Gary Scoggin

That's the advantage of fighting a war to break away. Is that what you are advocating Carlos?

Carlos Ponce

Not at all. What we need to do severe the malignant Liberal ideology based states.

Bailey Jones

Gary, you know that Carlos doesn't believe in paying debts. He's just assuming that his fellow seditionists believe the same.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, be patient. The Lord is not on your time clock. Have your check ready.

Charlotte O'rourke

It’s hard to go against a majority of your peers like Sam Houston did even believing you are correct. We need more leaders like Sam Houston in today’s government as representatives tend to follow the party majority instead of democratic principles.

Carlos Ponce

"We need more leaders like Sam Houston..." Brave words considering he is now being considered by the cancel culture for owning slaves.

Charlotte O'rourke

Great leaders aren’t perfect. People in general aren’t perfect. Houston, Lincoln, etc. no one would pass muster today with yesterday’s thinking. But both these leaders still had tremendous courage, fought for their principles, and most importantly they showed up! Too many Americans today don’t even vote. How sad. 😢

Bailey Jones

[thumbup] Heaven forbid that our representatives do what a majority of Americans want instead what a majority of their party wants. Unfortunately, in our highly partisan and gerrymandered political world, that will get you defeated in your party's primary. Until we have competitive bipartisan districts again we won't have bipartisan politics.

Carlos Ponce

"Heaven forbid that our representatives do what a majority of Americans want instead what a majority of their party wants."

Send that message to Congress. They are doing what is best for the Democrat Party, not what the majority of Americans want.

Thomas Carpenter

82,000,000 to 75,000,000 They are doing what the majority wants. The prophets 0-the season.

Carlos Ponce

And Thomas Carpenter continues to believe those numbers.[rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

Look at the Leaning Tower of Pisa, Italy.... while it still stands.

Robert Braeking

Would that the 82 million for Biden were not fabricated out of whole cloth then I would agree. The statistics belie the authenticity of these votes.

Carlos Ponce

"The prophets 0-the season." So Thomas Carpenter is putting God's prophets on his own timeline. Silly Thomas!

Charles Douglas

If war comes! Hear me now!!! If war comes, don't get trapped behind enemy lines! [angry][angry]

Charles Douglas

Joe China is a disgrace, and those in the White House trying to prop him up are worst than that! Joe China could not remember the African American Secretary of Defense's name, nor where he worked yesterday! I am having a ball like I promised I would!

Now Kamala Harris is talking to National Heads in Joe's place, and a Communist "Junta" is making all these crazy decisions JOE is parroting out as he signs Executive Orders to jumpstart what the "JUNTA" wants to happen! One of our Allies said today that JOE CHINA has a problem! The DEMS put this country in jeopardy by hiding health information they had on Joe China, and hid him out, away from serious questions all of the campaign season in order to "befuddle" & to deceive the public!

When they did drag him on stage for 2-3 questions,...they were pre-screened, and Joe had rehearsed answers fed to him ahead of time! He has not even given a State Of The Union speech yet because he cannot read a speech prepared for him on a teleprompter! Red China, North Korea, Iran, & Russia are licking their chops, because they know exactly what I'm posting is true!

One thing for sure, they are NOT going to go four years without taking advantage of a weakened country, in complete disarray, as America is now! All this is transpiring because the LEFT, lied, cheated, conspired, and stole to achieve power! I say this, ...ENJOY WHAT YOU SEE HAPPENING BECAUSE I SURE WILL! I think many union workers, and LEFTISTS alike ....WILL be crying for TRUMP to take over in.2024 by the time KAMALA & the "JUNTA" are finished in four years of wrecking this country! I heard the Boston TERRORIST in prison will get as much COVID money that they send me! I am not surprised a bit! Only in a Radical Controlled AMERICA!!!!![beam]

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