Area schools and school districts are seriously considering teachers carrying concealed sidearms. Seriously, have the administrators of these schools really considered the repercussions? By doing so, will place teachers, students, parents, administrators along with law enforcement in danger before it would add any protection for anyone.

I’ve worked in schools, and additional guns would distract from what the primary goal of our schools are. The question for me is ... what would the correct protection look like? It is not teachers carrying sidearms.

How about increasing school funding at the federal level to increase school security, update our schools making them more secure, increase teacher salaries, and promoting community and parent involvement. Teachers carrying sidearms — what in the world are they thinking?

Benjy Morgan

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Carlos Ponce

Arming teachers is a good idea. Not ALL teachers would be armed as some opponents of the idea proclaim. The gun would not be visible. The identity of the pistol packing teacher will not be known to any student. Students will have to assume that all personnel are armed. Teachers and other personnel who qualify will be well trained.There are already many ex-military and law enforcement on teaching staffs. I am told by reliable sources that our local high school principal in the early 1970s carried a firearm. Students never knew.
According to CNN there are more than 1000 school districts in Texas and "170 of them let teachers and administrators carry concealed weapons on school grounds. "
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/23/health/texas-guns-school-district-trnd/index.html
Any mishap as Benjy Morgan suggests? No.
And I taught in public schools for 32 years.

Robert Braeking

The key to school safety is prevention of cowardly attack. Although I agree that open carry in schools would be a distraction the public perception that schools are no longer a 'soft target' would deter most attacks. Adults in schools should be allowed to carry weapons and the public should be put on notice.

Kelly Naschke

Not sure about other districts, but CCISD has employed armed officers on it’s campuses for years. I am all for it ,as well as armed teachers. More good guys with guns = less opportunity for bad guys with guns. Pretty simple math.

Carlos Ponce

Hitchcock ISD has Hitchcock PD liaison officers on their Junior High and High School officers.
TCISD
https://www.tcisd.org/departments/safety/staff-directory
The CAP (County alternative Program) on Highway 6 on Santa Fe ISD property run by Dickinson ISD uses Sheriff's deputies.
Santa Fe ISD
https://www.sfisd.org/Domain/32
Galveston ISD
https://www.gisd.org/site/Default.aspx?PageID=6122
Dickinson ISD
http://www.dickinsonisd.org/page/parentstudent.safety

Jim Forsythe

Is arming teacher a good idea? Who is going to pay for the guns, ammo, insurance, training ?
"As more schools consider arming their employees, some districts are encountering a daunting economic hurdle: insurance carriers threatening to raise their premiums or revoke coverage entirely."
If not all teacher would have guns , who would choose the one's that do?
Would a better way be to have armed guards at the door?
Why all should not have guns in classrooms, as some are not able to handle guns the right way. These are just a few examples.
September, 2014 "TAYLORSVILLE, Utah -- A Taylorsville teacher was shot when her concealed weapon accidentally discharged in a campus bathroom."

"The Idaho State Legislature passed a law in July allowing gun owners to carry concealed weapons on college campuses across the state. Just two months later, an unnamed chemistry professor at Idaho State University shot himself in the foot, right in the middle of class, with his legally concealed gun. The professor had been toting the pistol around in his pocket when the gun apparently went off. Speaking to press, Idaho State University president Arthur Vailas took the opportunity to say out loud what we are all thinking, remarking, “When they passed this law, it was bound to happen.”


Carlos Ponce

"Who is going to pay for the guns, ammo, insurance, training ?"
Who pays for the guns, ammo, insurance, training in the 170 Texas school districts with armed teachers?
"We're going to protect our kids at any cost," said U.S. history teacher Sharon Romero.
"For nearly four years, the Clarksville School District -- about 100 miles northwest of Little Rock -- has had teachers, janitors, computer technicians and other staff members ready to respond in the case of a shooting, CNN affiliate KARK reported.
Hiring one school resource officer would have cost the district about $50,000 a year. The district spent at least $68,000 training about 13 staff members when the program began, Hopkins told [CNN affiliate] KFSM."
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/24/us/armed-teachers-states-trnd/index.html
"The task force recommended that schools designate willing staff to be armed and trained, and it proposed a model training program, 40-60 hours per person, at what Hutchinson said would be a cost of about $800 to $1,000 per trained employee."
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/02/nra-school-safety-report_n_2999968.html
So it looks like it is cheaper to train and equip a teacher rather than hire an officer-cost efficient.

Jim Forsythe

Did you factor in the increased cost of insurance?
"As more schools consider arming their employees, some districts are encountering a daunting economic hurdle: insurance carriers threatening to raise their premiums or revoke coverage "
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Are the teachers going to be trained to the same level as the armed guards? If not, its apples to oranges.
If a student is shot by a teacher, accident or other reason, is the teacher Criminality labile, or just the school district?
To me the risk of arming a teacher, instead of hiring a trained professional is not worth the risk, just to save up front money, that could cost big time later on.

Carlos Ponce

"insurance carriers threatening to raise their premiums or revoke coverage "
Just shop around for a better rate.
"Are the teachers going to be trained to the same level as the armed guards?"
The armed guard in Parkland Florida, never went in the building. Who tried to stop Nikolas Cruz? Unarmed teachers.
"If a student is shot by a teacher, accident or other reason, is the teacher Criminality labile, or just the school district?"
That's what the insurance is for.

Jim Forsythe

Are teachers the best choice to protect our children with guns? Should one that goes to teachers collage, minor in SWAT. If Hitchcock ISD has Hitchcock PD on campus, others can do the same. How many more school attracts is it going to take for the adults to act. This is the question the students are asking, and the reason they are marching on the 24th, plus other action that are also happening. These same young people who will be voting in the near future and have said , if things have not changed, they will vote against the one's that have not acted, regardless of party.
Today
A high school teacher in Georgia who barricaded himself inside a classroom on Wednesday with students locked out in the hallway was arrested after the principal tried to force open the door and the instructor fired a gunshot, police said.
No students were hurt, except for a girl who suffered a minor ankle injury while running in the pandemonium that followed from the lunchtime incident at Dalton High School in Dalton, Georgia, about 90 miles (145 km) north of Atlanta, the state capital, police said.
After responding to reports of gunfire at the school, police said they found the teacher holed up inside a classroom.

Jim Forsythe

"If a student is shot by a teacher, accident or other reason, is the teacher Criminality labile, or just the school district?"
"That's what the insurance is for. " CARLOS , it does not work that way.
The liability that arises out of breaking a law or committing a criminal act. Liability insurance does not cover criminal liability.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, you know that if a shooting were to occur where your loved ons were threatened you would want an armed presence to protect them.
In the scenario you pictured the student shot by a teacher, accident or otherwise was threatening the teacher or other students. Otherwise the gun would never be seen.

Carlos Ponce

As to the Georgia teacher “It certainly seemed like he didn’t have any intention to harm anybody else,” Frazier [police spokesman] said. He fired out the window, not at anyone.
The teacher in question was Dalton High School history teacher Jesse Randal Davidson. Davidson had said he did not agree with Trump's proposal to arm teachers.
So he was trying to make a point from an anti-arming the teachers viewpoint.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/georgia-teacher-custody-reports-shots-fired-article-1.3846859
http://fox40.com/2018/02/28/georgia-teacher-arrested-for-firing-gun-in-school-police-say/amp/

Carlos Ponce

Chondi Chastain, student “He [Jesse Randall Davidson] was really funny and always made jokes about random things. He always talked about how he disagreed with Donald Trump. I didn’t expect him to do anything like this, it’s completely out of character,” she said. She also noted that he’d vocally disagreed with Trump’s suggestion that teachers should be armed in the classroom to keep students safe.
http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/02/dalton-georgia-student-chondi-chastain-tweets-at-nra.html
So Jim, you have an anti-Trump social studies teacher who expressed disagreement with Trump's proposal to arm teachers firing a gun out of a Georgia classroom . Now the Liberals are using this occurrence to persuade schools not to arm teachers??????
Anyone with common sense can point out the HYPOCRISY of this.
Of course when pointed out to Chondi Chastain she called them a "stupid a**hole".

Jim Forsythe

The goal should be not to let someone in that should not be in a school. If the response is a teacher with a gun , this does not keep a gun out of schools.
"armed presence to protect them. " but not in the form of teachers with guns. Trained professionals at the entrances, schools with bullet proof glass, double air lock entrance with guard in control. Not all the threats are from a gun, but other things that are a lot worse.
"threatening the teacher" which brings up point of students taking away the gun. Now we would have a gun in the school , controlled by a student.
You may think that a teacher would not let it be known were the gun is, but these are the same people that have sex with students. All it takes is one.

Jim Forsythe

The President today said, we need highly trained professionals at the school for protection and to secure schools. He did not say teachers.
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Wednesday repeatedly embraced a series of gun control measures, telling a group of lawmakers at the White House to pursue bills that have been opposed for years by the vast majority of the Republican Party and the National Rifle Association.
In a remarkable televised meeting in the Cabinet Room, the president was calling for comprehensive gun control that would expand background checks, keep guns from the mentally ill, secure schools and restrict gun sales from some young adults.

Carlos Ponce

" students taking away the gun" How would students know which staff member is armed? In the Texas schools where this is implemented STUDENTS DON'T KNOW, the exception being the armed police officers on campus.
"Texas' school marshal law doesn't actually allow teachers to keep guns on their persons. Any school marshal that has routine, regular contact with students must keep his or her firearm locked up on campus but accessible.
Other campus staffers — such as campus administrators — who aren't necessarily in close contact with students every day can carry guns."
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2018/02/22/trump-wants-arm-teachers-texas-already-allows-sort

Carlos Ponce

Jim posted ": He did not say teachers."
Same meeting as reported by the New York Times.
"The president did return several times to a proposal that conservatives like: arming teachers in schools so and ending the “gun free zones” around schools that Mr. Trump said had made America’s schools among the most vulnerable targets for mass shooters.
“You’ve got to have defense too,” the president told the lawmakers. “You can’t just be sitting ducks. And that’s exactly what we’ve allowed people in these buildings and schools to be.”
But several times, he acknowledged how controversial that proposal is, and seemed to accept the idea that it might not be included in a comprehensive gun control measure that could pass through both chambers in the Congress.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/us/politics/trump-gun-control.html
So he did not back away from the idea but many have told him that it should be up to the states to decide, not the Federal government.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos , you forgot that Texas school districts can choose between two plans .
In 2007, a school district in Harrold, Texas, made a controversial decision. It allowed teachers to carry concealed weapons on school grounds to protect students against potential shooters.
This is part of Texas's "Guardian Plan". Texas's other plan is the School Marshal Plan .

Robert Braeking

You're concerned about insurance? Really? How much does it cost to hire an armed guard? What is more effective? 5 Armed guards or 100 potentially armed school personnel? You are really grasping at straws.

Jim Forsythe

"So Jim, you have an anti-Trump social studies teacher who expressed disagreement with Trump's proposal to arm teachers firing a gun out of a Georgia classroom . Now the Liberals are using this occurrence to persuade schools not to arm teachers??????"
Trying to make this political, when he was asking for help! His mental health was not in good shape.
The party he claimed to belong to was the Teapublitarian Party” group.
On Facebook, Davidson is a member of the “Teapublitarian Party” group, which says in its description, “If you want smaller government with less tax and regulation and all that then your tea party. If you believe in a representative republic and traditional values then you are republican. If you believe your personal rights and responsibilities begin where mine end and the minimal amount of government is still probably too much then your libertarian. If your a bit of all this then you are Teapublitarian. WELCOME HOME.”
Please go yo the link below, to read what they stand for. https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheTeapublitarianParty/
Dalton High School history teacher Jesse Randal Davidson was asking for HELP . At lease 2 times he was involved with the police.
His encounters with Dalton police led some officers to suspect he was facing mental health issues
"It appears the subject may be delusional or have something else that had occurred that is causing him to have these thoughts," police wrote in their report.
"Davidson had walked into the police department telling a rambling story about thinking a murder had occurred, but officers weren't able to verify if anything he said was true. They wrote in a 2016 report that after their interview, Davidson was taken to a hospital "based on him thinking about hurting himself."
"Then, last year, officers found Davidson during a school day, sitting on the curb of a street, conscious but unresponsive and being held up by two school staff members. He was again taken to a hospital. Both police reports were posted by the Chattanooga Times Free Press"
He needed more help than he received. This is why mental health is a important part of what needs to be done for school safety.


Carlos Ponce

Jim, anyone who openly despises Trump's policies in the classroom cannot be RIGHT in politics.

Jim Forsythe

Trying to make this political, when he was asking for help!

Carlos Ponce

When a social studies teacher interjects his own politics into the classroom it becomes political.
And don't believe everything posted on Facebook. ANYBODY can post ANYTHING. If I were to post I am 6 foot 3 and solid muscle on Facebook would you believe it? "Yup, yup, it must be true - I read it on Facebook, I read it on Facebook."

Jim Forsythe

Jesse Randal Davidson, a 53-year-old social studies teacher. HE WAS IN NEED OF HELP.
In 2012, he was recognized as the school’s top teacher. As such, he may have voiced both sides of the political landscape and not presented just one side.
He was part of Teapublitarian Party which is anything but against Trump. He may have also been part of other parties, as he was in need of medical help, and may have not known how many groups or what groups he was part of.
I have had teachers that would take many sides of a debate, sometimes taking the side, no one in class was defending..
HE WAS IN NEED OF HELP, AND WAS ASKING FOR IT.

He may have said things for and against Trump, especially if he was not taking his meds . In the past "Police said in the report they found Davidson was “delusional or having something else that had occurred that is causing him to have these thoughts." Also in the past"He was taken to the hospital for observation, based on him thinking about hurting himself."
HE WAS IN NEED OF HELP, AND WAS ASKING FOR IT.

Carlos Ponce

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Jim Forsythe

Carlos, please get your keyboard checked, as it may be having problems.

Jesse Randal Davidson had mental health problems, not political problems. He went from a teacher of the year, to someone shooting a gun in a classroom. His being against Trump or for Trumps policies, did not cause him to shoot a gun in a classroom.
He may have embraced both sides, as some people with problems like he has, sometimes do.
He has been in need of more help than he has received up to now.

Was this report from a reporter in the classroom when he said he was against Trumps policies, if not, who reported it? Unless you were in the classroom, you can not be 100% sure what was said.
He also was on Facebook, connected to the Teapublitarian Party.
As he had mental health problems and he may have done many things that were opposite of each other. How active he was in the Teapublitarian Party we do not know. Was he even active in politics? He had mental health problems that may have been causing him to see things in a way that was not real..
He needed help.

"Jim, anyone who openly despises Trump's policies in the classroom cannot be RIGHT. " Was this before or after he needed mental health help?
Do you have a quote about what he said?
What does someone say in a classroom to openly despises Trump's policies?
Did Jesse Randal Davidson, openly also say he was for Trump's policies?

Carlos Ponce

So what Jim Forsythe is saying is that a Liberal anti-Trumpist has mental problems. Interesting.

Jim Forsythe

You and I do not know what his politics is. It has been reported that he was a Teapublitarian.
Nowhere did I indicate the he was a Liberal anti-Trumpist.
What party he belongs to, is not his problems.
Mental health knows no party.
What is know, is he needs HELP.
"Jesse Randal Davidson had mental health problems, not political problems. He went from a teacher of the year, to someone shooting a gun in a classroom. His being against Trump policies or for Trumps policies, did not cause him to shoot a gun in a classroom.
He may have embraced both sides, as some people with problems like he has, sometimes do.
He has been in need of more help than he has received up to now."

Carlos Ponce

"It has been reported that he was a Teapublitarian.
Jim, that was off Facebook. We have to teach our young impressionable youth NOT to believe everything you read on Facebook. Seems like you were never taught. Like I posted before, if I were to post I am 6 foot 3 and sold muscle on Facebook would you believe it?

Paula Flinn

Teachers should not be armed. Students would be running toward a teacher for safety, bumping into the teacher armed with a loaded gun. Swat team would be coming into the school and seeing the teacher with a loaded gun in the hall or room. Who gets killed? The teacher.
Schools need to have more security from people trained with guns, not teachers. Substitutes need to be able to lock their classroom doors. Schools need to keep side doors and back doors locked. High school students need to wear ID’s at all times.
The day that they arm teachers or administrators at my high school is the day I quit working there. Schools should be gun free places for students and faculty. Retired veterans, who are weapons trained, could be screened and hired to protect students and staff. They would wear a uniform. Teachers have enough to do at schools without worrying about carrying a weapon.

Carlos Ponce

"Teachers should not be armed." That's why they were killed in Parkland.
But Paula, I don't think YOU should be armed. You'd be like Deputy Fife.
But for another teacher with a military or law enforcement background, a good marksman with an even disposition it would be a good idea.

Paula Flinn

Carlos, you do not know me. My husband was a hunter, and he taught me how to handle firearms. We used to go dove hunting in the valley during White wing season. We used to go target shooting and skeet shooting all of the time. I can handle a gun better than probably 90% of the teachers at the high school. I know how to shoot accurately. I know where to aim, and my sight is very keen. So back off!
Your insults are not "Christian" at all, and are not accurate. I have not shot a gun in a few years, since my husband died, but I think I could remember how to defend myself if I had to. I do not get flustered easily.
I don't think that it is wise to expect teachers to have this skill in their resume, or for administrators to make it a part of teachers' job description. I don't know of a single teacher that wants to do this. I stand with Dan Hochman on this.
BTW, it is ok to disagree with Donald Trump on some things. You don't have to go along with every dumb idea he has.

Carlos Ponce

"I have not shot a gun in a few years, since my husband died, but I think I could remember how to defend myself if I had to."
If you say so.[rolleyes]
"I do not get flustered easily."
Your posts indicate otherwise.
You don't know any teacher who wants to carry. I know plenty.
Calling Trump's ideas "dumb" when he is trying to protect students' lives is really sad.[sad][sad][sad][sad]

Gary Miller

First step is replace "gun free zone" signs with "armed security on duty".
Second step is identify retired police or military on staff and give them a raise to carry a weapon for campus protection.
Third step? Give all employees not carrying weapons a can of Grizzly Bear pepper spray.

Daniel Hochman

I am beside myself with the idiocy of the mere suggestion of arming teachers. That is a nightmare waiting to happen. Carlos and your minions can insult my intelligence and/or abilities, but I am secure with my 20 years of education and my 20 years of experience. First of all, teachers are already parents, coaches, classroom police, counselors, educators for these kids. Adding another responsibility to that list is simply ridiculous. Teachers are already severely underpaid. We are not paid to be armed guards. Second, it is simple...violence begets violence. The solution to violence is not more violence. What are we teaching our kids if we solve problems with weapons made to kill? That's not very Christian. You can't claim to be a true Christian and an advocate of gun violence. Sorry. Third, high schools are not prisons and should not feel like or look like prisons. If you treat kids like inmates they will absolutely behave as inmates. Fourth the prospect of an accident, or a misfiring, or a stolen weapon is very real. Additionally, if there is a shooter and the teacher has a classroom full of kids, how is having a wild west style shootout in front of those kids helping. That will lead to more injury, not less. Facts show (and I know how some of you folks hate facts) that there has been a miniscule percentage of civilians stopping gun violence with guns of their own. It just isn't reality. "A 2012 study found that none of the 62 mass shootings from the preceding three decades were stopped by an armed citizen with a gun." "As the executive director of the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training told Slate's Alex Yablon this week, most citizens aren't going to be able to hit a target at a distance of more than 25 yards, and that's only if they can even tell where the shots are coming from." "It's not enough to judge the merits of gun ownership strictly by the fact that sometimes, in a statistically slim percentage of cases, they help thwart some sort of crime or act of violence. All the instances in which guns are used to kill people in acts of domestic abuse, say, or used in acts of suicide, or result in accidental death are relevant, too, and can't be overlooked. Because taken in sum, those are the sorts of factors that contribute to the 33,000 gun deaths America endures each year." "While anecdotal evidence might make for a compelling public relations, and there are indeed some circumstances where gun ownership saves someone's life, the statistics overall are very clear: more guns equals more gun deaths. " Think about it this way...if a kid hits another kid with a stick, do you take away the stick, or do you give all the kids on the playground a stick and see what happens?

The fact of the matter is the majority of this is hype and fear mongering fueled by social media. Mass shootings have actually gone down.

Carlos Ponce

"You can't claim to be a true Christian and an advocate of gun violence."
No one is advocating gun violence but PROTECTION!

Cary Semar

"Mass shootings have actually gone down."

In fact, mass shootings have gone up. What has gone down is gun deaths over all.

Mark Ciavaglia

I would like to see Congress consider a bill which would give licensed peace officers the opportunity to volunteer their off-time as a security presence in local schools. In exchange for this service, Congress would allow police officers to receive a straight line credit (not a watered down deduction) on their federal income taxes at a set per-hour rate. So using arbitrary numbers, if Congress set the rate at $25 per hour for a licensed peace officer and an officer worked 1,000 hours (20 hours per week) in a given year, he/she would receive a $25,000 credit on his/her federal income taxes. The economic result for the officer would be that $25,000 of their regular income would end up being tax free.

If approved, this measure could be implemented fairly quickly, with a potential immediate effect on creating safer campuses. Additionally, we would have the benefit of licensed, trained police officers taking on this critical task. Let's let professionals carry out their respective duties - teachers can teach and officers can make our schools safer. Just a thought.

Mark Ciavaglia

And one more thought ... if this measure were implemented and it was common knowledge that it was extremely likely that every school in our country had a trained, armed security presence on site, I believe the deterrent effect would be significant and immediate. While we certainly want to be prepared 'if' these shootings occur, we really want to deter them and this measure would help to do so.

Lastly for the record, U.S. Senator Jerry Moran was looking for ideas after Newtown and I contacted his office suggesting consideration of this idea, but received no response. Credit to retired Det. Brian Goetschius for originally bringing this idea to the forefront. We also tendered the idea to Congressman Randy Weber's staff. I assume they are contemplating the matter.

Paula Flinn

I like this idea. A strong security presence will probably require several people, not just one, at a large campus.

Jose' Boix

Thanks for rekindling retired Det. Goetschius' idea. It has been some time since he shared it with a few of us. In the midst of "ideas" this one has some rational angles. I hope that some of our Legislators are deep in such discussions.

Steve Fouga

It's could get funny around here watching people both defend the president's new positions on gun control, while railing against gun control. [cool]

Or possibly not. He might change his mind again by tomorrow. [whistling]

Jim Forsythe

Steve, check out Portugal.The Man, they are a American psychedelic rock band from Wasilla, Alaska
Listen to the lead singer, and tell me what you think. Most think he is a woman. After the second time I played this song , I like it.
Below is the song.
Portugal. The Man - Feel It Still (Live Stripped Down Session)

Jim Forsythe

Steve, the video on this one is great.
Portugal. The Man - Live In The Moment (Official Video)

Jim Forsythe

For some reason I played Johnny Cash - Hurt , and remembered the life he lived .
If you are a fan, and have not played Johnny Cash's last interview (August 20th, 2003) do so.

Steve Fouga

I have quite a few Johnny Cash songs, but I've never been a huge fan. I'm a bigger fan now that I've seen his last interview, so thanks for that. Man, talk about a dude at home in the world, and at peace with his place in it. I've considered making a playlist of America's poet/singer/songwriters: Cash, Nelson, Van Zandt, McMurtry, Kristofferson, etc. Trouble is, it might be too morose to listen to. A lot of their best stuff is better taken in small doses.

Believe it or not, I had never listened to "Hurt," even though I have it on CD. If you're familiar with Hurt, you've probably also heard "I Hung My Head," from the same era. And Johnny's cover of Depeche Mode's great song "Personal Jesus." As good as Depeche Mode's original was, for me Johnny's version is a lot better. If you haven't heard them, I bet you'd like them.

Also, if you haven't heard James McMurtry's "Levelland," Hurricane Party," and "Choctaw Bingo," please check them out. In my opinion, Hurricane Party is the best song about Galveston other than "Galveston." Even though Galveston is never mentioned in the song.

Steve Fouga

Jim, I actually own Feel It Still because of my daughter. Whenever she visits me or I visit her, she plays her favorite recently discovered music. I usually decide to buy a few of the songs, because she has darn good taste in music. Last time she was here, she played Feel It Still, and I bought it. I like the version in the video better than the one I own.

Jim Forsythe

Other Galveston songs I like.
Jimmy Buffett - Who's The Blonde Stranger?
Billy Gibbons, Dusty Hill, & Frank Beard "BALINESE"
Quick As I Could · Billy Bourbon

I had to play James McMurtry's ""Choctaw Bingo," I played Ray Wylie Hubbard version,which I liked better. You may like Ray Wylie Hubbard "Snake Farm"

When making your a playlist of America's poet/singer/songwriters: do not forget.
Dolly Parton, Prince, Stevie Wonder, Van Morrison,Robert Johnson,Joni Mitchell,
Bruce Springsteen,Stephen Ray Vaughan ,Arlo Davy Guthrie, Woody Guthrie and others. make sure to check if they are from the USA, as some have fooled me, as where they are from.

Robert Braeking

Putting one cop on campus is like putting one cop in the mall. He can't cover the whole campus. Giving the public the perception that perpetrators will be perforated is the answer. Note the Argyle, Texas posting outside their schools: “Please be aware that the staff at Argyle ISD are armed and may use whatever force is necessary to protect our students.”

Jose' Boix

Somehow, I have a hard time grasping what seems to be the developing new normal for our teachers: Lesson Plans - Check, Gun - Check, Ammo - Check!

Carlos Ponce

Jose, not all teachers would carry on campus, just a few.

Steve Fouga

I wonder what proportion of teachers carry while off-campus. Why not simply let the same ones carry while on-campus? They've clearly already made the decision that they're willing to take life in the defense of themselves and others.

Robert Braeking

Every teacher's desk should be sporting a fingerprint opening gun safe. Some empty, others occupied. The public doesn't need know which is which. It is all about perception. It is also about protection. Armed teachers inside the school could have saved a dozen lives in Florida. The timid among us are against arming teachers. For what reason I do not know.

Jose' Boix

Repeat: Fast words, difficult process! It is interesting reading how we seem to be able to "fund" the "arming schools approaches" but somehow debate not being able to better fund the "core mission of educating our kids;" i.e., better teacher pay/benefits, updated IT, updated campus security, etc., etc. Just a thought!

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