A recent editorial by Leonard Woolsey talks about the LGBTQ+ flag being painted on a crosswalk in front of city hall ("Rainbow crosswalk makes important statement," The Daily News, June 11).

Woolsey goes on to mention the many churches, synagogues and mosques residing in Galveston proper as if these three religions accept and condone the lifestyle. In reality, all three religions consider homosexuality a sin, two of which will pray for the practitioner and one which will cut your head off for the practice, if given the chance.

Now the question begs to be answered, if city hall had painted the moon and star, the Star of David, or the cross on the public crosswalk would the vaunted American Civil Liberties Union have come out in force?

Bruce Luerson

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Steve Fouga

I hadn't even thought of that question. If you're really interested, why not ask them?

Jarvis Buckley

I am conflicted

Bailey Jones

Even a generation ago, gays and lesbians in any every city in the US could find an open and affirming church in which to worship, and if the local laws allowed, be married. The idea that religion is in opposition to homosexuality is simply a myth propagated by those religious organizations that choose to oppose it. But to address your question directly, the US Constitution calls out a separation between religion and government that proscribes the use of religious iconography in public works. There is no such proscription for rainbow sidewalks.

Randy Chapman

We're gonna need rainbows with more colors soon. Right now what is it? LGBTQ? As soon as we get around to adding the rest of the alphabet, it's really going to time consuming to paint a color for all those factions.

Jim Forsythe

Rainbows have seven colors, that have meaning to some.------------------------------------------------------------- Red– This is the first color of the rainbow from top. Red signifies passion, vitality, enthusiasm and security. It is the light with the longest wavelength.-------------------- Orange– This light or color is a combination of yellow and red. It is a dynamic color representing creativity, practicality, playfulness as well as equilibrium or control.----- Yellow– This is the color of the sunshine itself. It represents clarity of thought, wisdom, orderliness and energy.----------------------------------------------------------- Green– This is the middle color of the rainbow and denotes fertility, growth, balance, health and wealth.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blue– This the fifth color of the rainbow which makes us think of the Unknown. The sky and the wide oceans are in this color and hence it has been associated with Spirituality and Divinity.------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Indigo– It is believed that where Blue is calming, Indigo is sedating. Indigo is mystical as it bridges the Gap between Finite and Infinite. Indigo colored gem stones are often used for spiritual attainment, psychic abilities, self awareness and enhancement of Intuition.--------------------------------------------------------------------------- Violet– The last color of the rainbow is a mix of red and blue. It is considered the highest element of spirituality. It can ignite one’s imagination and be an inspiration to artists. Dark tones of violet are associated with sorrow. Deeper shades of violet or purple denote high spiritual mastery.

Bailey Jones

I like to think of it as different frequencies of light being bent at differing angles as the light passes through water droplets in the atmosphere. Fun fact - because it depends on the location of the viewer, no two people can see the same rainbow. Sort of like how what you see in a painted crosswalk depends on your point of view.

Bailey Jones

The rainbow already has all the colors in it. That's what makes it a rainbow.

Randy Chapman

Kind of, just like white light has all the colors in it. A rainbow is normally listed as 7 hues. If combined again, you end with roughly white light. But, we can subdivide as needed by the lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transexuals, queers, et al, and we obviously need more colors, because apparently, seven may not be enough. Every deviation of normal human sexuality NEEDS its own color and recognition. We cannot apparently as the left believes, be just people. Society tells us We must be defined by some arbitrary issue harbored in our brains that in reality only serves to divide us. IMO, a white ray of light is the correct representation of humanity. I don't care who you lay with when you retire at night.

Bailey Jones

Nah - the rainbow is enough. Like all human characteristics, sexuality and gender come in a continuous spectrum - that's the symbolism behind the rainbow.

Gary Miller

LGBTQ is not a religion. It's political correction gone nuts. Each letter represents a small segment of society with nothing but PC supporting it. Joining with the other letters gives them more support.

Bailey Jones

LGBTQ is just people. What makes them unique is centuries of religious oppression and bigotry. As I mentioned in a comment on a previous article, the significance of sexual preference and gender identity in the LGBTQ community doesn't come from inside the community, it comes from outside, from laws that specify sexual preference and gender identity as reasons to discriminate against people. It's that hatred that makes homosexuality / gender fluidity something that deserves to be celebrated.

Miceal O'Laochdha

Of all the myriad absurdities that are relentlessly foisted upon us by what passes for contemporary "culture" today, the expression: "gender fluidity" is, without doubt, the most ridiculous.

Bailey Jones

Come mothers and fathers Throughout the land And don't criticize What you can't understand Your sons and your daughters Are beyond your command Your old road is rapidly aging Please get out of the new one If you can't lend your hand For the times they are a-changin' -Bob Dylan, 1964

Steve Fouga

Still my all-time favorite protest song. 🎶🎶[cool]🎶🎶

Jim Forsythe

Steve,Dylan had many protest songs, and the one that gets me each time is “Masters of War”------------------------------------------------- Marvin Gaye’s “What’s Going On” is a protest song that still says a lot. If you have not listen too---- 2001: Artists Against AIDS Worldwide — “What’s Going On” the message is used for a different reason , but the greatness of the song still shines. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eve of Destruction by Barry McGuire and "Fortunate Son" Creedence Clearwater Revival are two that talks to me and reminds me of the 60's and 70's.-------------------------------------------------------------- To honor the Woodstock and the 50 years since it happened. Country Joe & The Fish Live @ Woodstock 1969 Fish Cheer_I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixing-To-Die-Rag.mpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dATyZBEeDJ4

Steve Fouga

Those are all great ones. Also Taxman, Say It Loud I'm Black and I'm Proud, Draft Morning, Another Day in Paradise, A Change is Gonna Come, Ohio, Universal Soldier, Hurricane, Inner city blues, The Message, Escape from the Killing Fields, Give Peace a Chance, Get Up Stand Up, In the Ghetto, Fight the Power, Home, I Am Woman, The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, To Be Young Gifted and Black, Something in the Air, Sunday Bloody Sunday, Living for the City... I'm a sucker for a good protest song. Some of the most dramatic, touching, heart-wrenching, thought-provoking, inspiring popular music ever created.

Miceal O'Laochdha

Plenty of good anti-war and anti-our fathers' generation songs out there but euphemistic expressions of alternative reality such as "gender fluidity" remind me more of literature than music. Specifically: Orwell's "newspeak' in 1984. The reimagined words "gay", "pride" and "rainbow" also ring of "newspeak". The thought police are monitoring you! Makes sure your thoughts are correct before even speaking.

Bailey Jones

Miceal there's nothing new about gender fluidity. Transgendered people are as old as people. They have existed in every population in every era. And prospered in every civilization where they weren't actively annihilated. There is ample literature. Fun fact - five lionesses in Botswana have recently been observed growing manes and adopting male behavior - I guess it's all the rage. Girls will be boys, and boys will be girls It's a mixed-up, muddled-up, shook-up world except for Lola, lo lo lo lo Lo-la-ah

Randy Chapman

Celebrated? Nah. Accepted, ok, I am fine with that. It deserves nothing more. Please don't force sexuality into anyone else's space because it doesn't belong there.

Bailey Jones

Well I do applaud the way that straight people never celebrate their sexuality or force it into anyone's space. Like if they had a parade or something where they all dress up in outlandish costumes and have floats and bands and women flash their breasts at men in exchange for plastic beads and coins - and maybe close down downtown. Or make 1000s of movies and TV shows about straight people being in intimate relationships with each other and put them on every TV channel and every movie house. Or write songs that celebrate man on woman sex and play them on every street in cars turned up as loud as possible. Or creatively conflate women's breasts with chicken wings in a restaurant chain and put one in every town in the country. Thank goodness straight people keep all that to themselves. When will the gays learn the same dignity and restraint?

Steve Fouga

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Carlos Ponce

Bailey, a relative of mine working for one of the Island's biggest employers was told not to show or display pictures of his new born son. Why? The complaint came from homosexual coworkers who complained he was flaunting his heterosexuality. Huh??? He was just a proud papa.

Bailey Jones

Yes, Carlos - this idea that the mere existence and visibility of one type of person somehow oppresses another type of person is ridiculous. Snowflakes, I think they call them.

Randy Chapman

Oh hell! The GDN is arbitrarily censoring comments again.

David Alquest

Mr. Luerson’s overt criticism of a rainbow crosswalk in Galveston shows a lack of logic and understanding while displaying a thinly disguised prejudice. I believe the crosswalk was placed there as a reminder that there are different people in the world who should be treated equally. Obviously gay people have been hated, abused, imprisoned, fired from their jobs, etc. for who they are - still true in Texas today. Straight people should be happy that they don’t need a crosswalk or parade to remind others of their rights. For those who are well-read in civics, history, psychology and science, they realize that LGBT people did not choose such a direction in life; they were born that way, and almost all of them desperately needed to hide it until recently. Actually, the people who made choices in life are the religious people; they or their ancestors chose such beliefs. Mr. Luerson is correct in saying that some religions and countries hang, stone and decapitate gay people because of a belief in a mythical book or philosophy. Mr. Luerson should not take issue with gay people who want to remind others that they are equal in a mostly bigoted and discriminatory world.

David Alquest

Mr. Luerson’s overt criticism of a rainbow crosswalk in Galveston shows a lack of logic and understanding while displaying a thinly disguised prejudice. I believe the crosswalk was placed there as a reminder that there are different people in the world who should be treated equally. Obviously gay people have been hated, abused, imprisoned, fired from their jobs, etc. for who they are - still true in Texas today. Straight people should be happy that they don’t need a crosswalk or parade to remind others of their rights. For those who are well-read in civics, history, psychology and science, they realize that LGBT people did not choose such a direction in life, they were born that way, and almost all of them desperately needed to hid it until recently. Actually, the people who made choices in life are the religious people; they or their ancestors chose such beliefs. Mr. Luerson is correct in saying that some religions and countries hang, stone and decapitate gay people because of a belief in a mythical book or philosophy. Mr. Luerson should not take issue with gay people who want to remind others that they are equal in a mostly bigoted and discriminatory world.

David Smith

Never saw anybody address your question Bruce. Imagine that

Carlos Ponce

The question is, "if city hall had painted the moon and star, the Star of David, or the cross on the public crosswalk would the vaunted American Civil Liberties Union have come out in force?" Answer - yes.

Jim Forsythe

If city hall had painted the moon and star, the Star of David, or the cross on the public crosswalk would the American Civil Liberties Union been ok with it? My answer is yes, as long as it was funded by private funds, as the Rainbow the project was. "Funding for the project was privately raised and the placement was made through the cooperation of the city." If the City had paid for it, my answer would be no, they would not support it . "The ACLU supports the right of religious persons to practice their faiths without government interference. The ACLU believes the government should neither prefer religion over non-religion, nor favor particular faiths over others. The ACLU is opposed to school-led prayer, but protects students' right to pray in school.It opposes the use of religious beliefs to discriminate, such as providing services to LGBT people"

Bailey Jones

I guess you didn't read my first comment where I addressed it directly. Imagine that.

David Smith

You guessed wrong.. Imagine that.. I read all the debris

Connie Patterson

I feel the rainbow flag represents acceptance to all that come underneath it. Decades of societal discrimination led many to hide their identity to anyone for fear of loosing family and friends. Before the time of the LGBTQ coalition many had no where to turn for support. “Coming out” meant the real possibility of being shunned and rejected. Many older LGBTQ suffered emotional trauma and scars as a result. The flag represents a safe place for youth and young adults to find and be a part of a community that loves and accepts them. The crosswalk at City Hall represents a city that does as well. As far as religion goes, you can accept or not the teachings of that faith and whether you do or not will not affect you socially in the general society. That same argument can not be made for the LGBTQ person. This is not a “choice” this is how they’re made. To choose not to be gay for the LGBT is really a choice to deny or hide because they don’t feel comfortable or accepted. That isn’t something that happens in faith. The LGBTQ youth is one of the highest suicide rates of any specific groups. If that flag saves 1 kid, one person who feels so low that they’d contemplate taking their own life as a result of something they didn’t ask for and can’t change then we aught to fly them everywhere. It stands for acceptance, how is that offensive to anyone?

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