Two pandemic response teams were disbanded. Our pandemic expert in China, Dr. Linda Quick, who would've assisted China in stemming the pandemic at its onset, was recalled and dismissed. None of the easily foreseeable steps to fight the virus were taken: Personal protective equipment for the medical community weren't stockpiled; critical equipment and personnel weren't prepared.

President Trump keeps saying no one could've foreseen this pandemic. Yet, he was warned in November about the "SARS-like" outbreak in China. His failure to act put the entire world at risk. His gross incompetence coupled with the connivance of the GOP-controlled Senate, led him to ridicule any suggestion that the outbreak was serious.

He called it a hoax, even though it was killing people. Any competent administrator would refer a crisis like this to experts for advice and consent. But there are neither experts nor competent advisers in this administration. Unlike President Obama's well-informed action that stopped the Ebola epidemic, this president has led us into the worst possible scenario: worldwide pandemic.

The result of this gross negligence will be worldwide mass death. It was avoidable and foreseeable. History will record Trump's gross maladministration as criminally negligent genocide.

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James Woodall

In lighter news, I read yesterday, Shenzhen has become the first Chinese city to ban eating cats and dogs.

Connie Patterson

I might be compelled to offer a comment providing factual data refuting this claim but something tells me you’re far more interested in bashing the POTUS than knowing the truth so I’ll take a hard pass. Your TDS in on par with trying to mop the floor with a cotton ball. Connie Patterson

Robert Braeking

It's amazing. If you want to know all the TDS talking points on this matter read this piece. I would normally call a piece appearing here as an 'opinion' piece,but I do not believe that this writer has any opinions.......at least not his own.

David Hardee

This article is a perfect example of non-productive gripping based strictly on opinions,

Diane Turski

Mr. Allen is correct on all counts. Once again, the next president will have to clean up the mess left by this totally incompetent president and his equally incompetent administration. I hope that will happen sooner rather than later!!

Carlos Ponce

Diane, you are incorrect. My proof is in my post below. All you have is your political bias. No matter, Trump will win re-election!!!!!!!

Gary Miller

Diane> This president is cleaning up the mess left by the previous president. The PPE stockpile was short because Obama used it and replaced nothing. The Experts(?) releaved of duty in china were Obama appointed more worried about "hangovers" than virus outbreaks.

Carlos Ponce

John Allen, I suggest you look at the Executive Order signed by President Trump on September 19, 2019. While it addresses influenza, pandemics are in the order:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-modernizing-influenza-vaccines-united-states-promote-national-security-public-health/

"Unlike seasonal influenza, a pandemic has the potential to spread rapidly around the globe, infect higher numbers of people, and cause high rates of illness and death in populations that lack prior immunity. While it is not possible to predict when or how frequently a pandemic may occur, there have been 4 pandemics in the last 100 years. The most devastating pandemic occurred in 1918-1919 and is estimated to have killed more than 50 million people worldwide, including 675,000 Americans.....These vaccines must be reformulated for each influenza season as well as in the event of a pandemic. "

https://factba.se/transcript/donald-trump-speech-kag-rally-north-charleston-south-carolina-february-28-2020

FACT: The first death from the coronavirus in China occurred on December 31, 2019. This administration took action on January 6, 2020 to investigate the virus.

Problem is the World Health Organization claimed there could be no human to human transfer.

You write" He called it a hoax" WRONG!!!!!

Even Uber Snopes states this is FALSE: "Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax. "

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

What the Snopes' article gets wrong is "During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu." He did compare it to the common flu with 35,000 American deaths and that is not "downplay". He said in his speech, "We’re prepared for the absolute worst. You have to be prepared for the worst, but hopefully it will all amount to very little. That’s why I tell you when we have the flu with 35,000 people and this one we have to take it very, very seriously. That’s what we’re doing. We are preparing for the worst."

Dan Freeman

Snopes actually reported the claim was a mixture of True and False:

What's True

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

What's False

Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.

Carlos Ponce

"During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu."

Is the common flu that benign, Dan?????

The writer of the Snopes article thinks so but Trump said in his speech, "We’re prepared for the absolute worst. You have to be prepared for the worst, but hopefully it will all amount to very little. That’s why I tell you when we have the flu with 35,000 people and this one we have to take it very, very seriously. That’s what we’re doing. We are preparing for the worst."

That's NOT downplay, Dan. The writer should have scrutinized the entire speech rather than go by the reported Liberal talking point.

But Snopes agrees that saying that Trump called the coronavirus a "hoax" is FALSE. And that's what Letter to the Editor John Allen writes.

Dan Freeman

If you are going to cite something tell the whole truth or you are just another Trumpet

Carlos Ponce

Dan, if you BOTHERED to read my posts, you would have noticed I POSTED ALL YOU POSTED in other forums.

Carlos Ponce

Dan, did you read the posts in Laura Elder's column "What we really need are hope, timelines and a plan"?

https://www.galvnews.com/opinion/editorials/free/article_bdd867aa-9101-5c99-8fa5-3539b1d5da93.html

Paula Flinn Mar 27, 2020 7:10pm

Then, he called the Virus a hoax. In fact, he called it “a Democratic hoax.”

Carlos Ponce Mar 27, 2020 8:58pm

Snopes got it almost right this time:

"Did President Trump Refer to the Coronavirus as a ‘Hoax’?"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

What's True: During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax."

What's False: Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.

Where Snopes messed up was "During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu." Read the transcript. "Downplay"??????

"So a number that nobody heard of, that I heard of recently and I was shocked to hear it, 35,000 people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that? 35,000, that’s a lot of people. It could go to 100,000, it could be 27,000. They say usually a minimum of 27, goes up to 100,000 people a year die.....That’s why I tell you when we have the flu with 35,000 people and this one we have to take it very, very seriously. That’s what we’re doing. We are preparing for the worst."

So comparing coronavirus to the common flu with 35,000 DEATHS is DOWNPLAY? Since when is "We are preparing for the worst" downplay?

Gary Miller

Dan> Correct he called the Democrat response their next Hoax.

Robert Braeking

Not to be the one to throw facts on a deranged narrative:

1. Dr. Quick is a pediatrician who had worked for the CDC on special assignment to the WHO.

2. In this day and age NOTHING is stockpiled. America has converted to a JIT inventory system and there are not vast warehouses of anything much less medical equipment. As far as respirators are concerned, those that have been taken out of storage were found to be inoperative due to deterioration in storage.

3. "On Dec. 27, Dr. Zhang Jixian, head of the respiratory department at Hubei Provincial Hospital, reported to health officials in China that a novel coronavirus was causing the disease; by that day, it had infected more than 180 individuals. " - Livescience.com. 180 infections in a country of 1.5 billion is hardly an epidemic.

4. The democrats' MO is to use hoaxes to try to take down the President. Trump called their coronavirus response their 'new hoax' meaning that this is the next thing they will use to try to take down the President. Apparently this piece confirms his prediction as accurate. Biden, on the other hand, actually DID call the coronavirus a hoax.

Dan Freeman

Dr. Linda Quick is Chief of CDC’s Field Epidemiology Training Program (FETP) Branch in the Division of Global Health Protection at the Center for Global Health. The branch works closely with Ministries of Health to strengthen public health systems and build workforce capacity by establishing Field Epidemiology Training Programs and training epidemiologists (“disease detectives”) and public health leaders to detect and rapidly respond to outbreaks using surveillance data. The FETP branch currently supports workforce development in 46 countries on 5 continents.

According to physians weekly Several months before the coronavirus pandemic began, the Trump administration eliminated a key American public health position in Beijing intended to help detect disease outbreaks in China….“It was heartbreaking to watch,” said Bao-Ping Zhu, a Chinese American who served in that role, which was funded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, between 2007 and 2011. “If someone had been there, public health officials and governments across the world could have moved much faster.”

Zhu and the other sources said the American expert, Dr. Linda Quick, was a trainer of Chinese field epidemiologists who were deployed to the epicenter of outbreaks to help track, investigate and contain diseases.

jim sitgreaves

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jim sitgreaves

The above thumbs up was not intended for Mr. Freeman's post...especially the second paragraph. Again, fake news.

Carlos Ponce

Why were few medical ventilators made in the USA?

Answer: The ACA (aka Obamacare) placed a tax on medical devices made in America starting in 2013. It was suspended in 2016 but was not repealed until December 31, 2019 but in the meantime production moved overseas.

https://taxfoundation.org/medical-device-tax-repeal/

Why was it passed in the first place? Remember Speaker Pelosi told us the bill must be passed before we can know what's in it.[rolleyes]

David Hardee

Carlos - I have followed your comments and responses on several threads. Congratulations on the tenure and text of your entries. You have been civil and as factual as possible. That is in contrast to the quips and shallow opinions of those infected by TDS. Thank you! David

Jim Forsythe

In 2010, Congress enacted the comprehensive health-care reform known as the Affordable Care Act (ACA). A part of the bill was the medical device tax, an excise tax based on the price of medical devices. It is levied either on the manufacturer, producer, or importer of the device.

It did not apply just to equipment manufactured in the USA but also imported to the USA. This made the cost the same for equipment no matter if produced in the USA or imported.

Carlos Ponce

But with lower overhead, imported medical devices made overseas became financially more lucrative even with the Obamacare tax.

Jim Forsythe

As a world strategy, we do not want one country to manufacture all the protective equipment. If one country is unable to produce because of a problem, the others can still run until they get back up and running.

The USA has 3 of the top 10 manufactures of ventilators.

Here are the top 10 companies operating in the global Ventilators Market:

1.Becton, Dickinson and Company (U.S.)

2. Koninklijke Philips N.V. (Netherlands)

3. Hamilton Medical AG (Switzerland)

4. Fisher & Paykel Healthcare, Limited (New Zealand)

5. Draegerwerk AG CO. KGaA (Germany)

6. Medtronic PLC (Ireland)

7. GE Healthcare (U.S.)

8. Smiths Group PLC (U.K.)

9. ResMed Inc. (U.S.)

10. Maquet Holding B.V. & Co. KG (Germany)

Mary Drosche

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Jarvis Buckley

That’s a really sad statement. Shame on you.

Carlos Ponce

Why aren't there more surgical and N95 masks in the national stockpile?

"The Obama administration significantly depleted the federal stockpile of N95 respirator masks to deal with the H1N1 influenza outbreak in 2009 and never rebuilt the stockpile despite calls to do so, according to reports."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/obama-admin-allegedly-depleted-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-never-replaced-reports-say

What does Über-Left Snopes say? "The U.S. federal stockpile of N95 protective face masks was largely depleted during the 2009 swine flu outbreak and was not restocked." Snopes then writes the Trump administration did not replenish it either but Trump did request it in his September 19, 2019 Executive Order.

"Because the market does not sufficiently reward speed, and because a pandemic has the potential to overwhelm or compromise essential government functions, including defense and homeland security, the Government must take action to promote faster and more scalable manufacturing platforms."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-modernizing-influenza-vaccines-united-states-promote-national-security-public-health/

Jim Forsythe

If it is true that we have depleted the federal stockpile of N95 respirator mask, why has

Alex Azar who was sworn in as President Trump’s Secretary of Health and Human Services not replaced them? The Secretary of Health and Human Services

is required to do a yearly inventory and to replace, fix any components of the stockpile that are lacking. To complain that the Secretary of Health and Human Services and the President of the past did not do this is ignoring the fact that Trump and his Secretary of Health and Human Services have been in office for over 3 years and have not fixed this problem.

Carlos Ponce

Read my post. Trump did address the issue the year before.

Jim Forsythe

“a safety-equipment industry association and a federally sponsored task force both recommended that depleted supplies of N95 respirator masks, which filter out airborne particles, be replenished by the stockpile, which is maintained by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.”

How many are needed?

In 2006, Congress provided supplemental funds to add 104 million N95 masks and 52 million surgical masks in an effort to prepare for the flu.

This level was never restored.

“Alex Azar, secretary of HHS, told Congress last month that the stockpile contains 30 million surgical masks and 12 million of the more protective N95 masks,” Bloomberg News reported. “He said there were an additional 5 million N95 masks that may have passed their expiration date.”

Charles Johnson, president of the International Safety Equipment Association, told the Times, “Our association is unaware of any major effort to restore the stockpile to cover that drawdown.”

This was from your link. https://www.dailywire.com/news/obama-admin-allegedly-depleted-federal-stockpile-of-n95-masks-never-replaced-reports-say

The big question is not who did what in the past, but what will we do now and in the future to fix this problem.

Will we use new technology, 3 D printing, hoods (cost $166) instead of ventilators in some cases and other things that people are coming up with.

Also, we need to rotate equipment out of the stockpile to keep them from going bad.

Carlos Ponce

"Also, we need to rotate equipment out of the stockpile to keep them from going bad."

I have several relatives in the medical and pharmacy fields. They say the "Best used by" or "expiration date" is there to circumvent lawsuits and most equipment, pills can be used safely and at full potency or use well beyond those dates.

Jim Forsythe

No one should use the following past exp. date. Insulin, vaccines, inhalers, liquid anti-biotics, nitroglycerine, tetracycline and a few more. Some supplements that break down more readily and will lose potency more quickly, including liquid supplements, probiotics, fish oils, enzymes, and a select few others. Please do not use drugs past the exp. date as they have been tested to determine when the frugs may begin to not have the results you want. it isa dangerous to tell people that it's OK to use all drugs past exp. date.

A ventilator is a machine that is computerized microprocessor-controlled. After the product has reached its useful life, it must be replaced. Just as when I was working, I found a fresh air hose on a backpack unit had degenerated in the case, before anyone used it because it was out of date. Why not replace, rotate outdated equipment, that is used to save lives?

N-95 mask, "The specialized masks, called filtering facepiece respirators, can be less effective if the materials degrade over time, damaging the seal that protects wearers from airborne particles." Why not issue them out and order new ones for the stockpile? The specialized masks create a seal to protect wearers, but that can be damaged over time as materials degrade. Why not rotate the N95 out to make sure that they are OK for use. The person wearing it depends on the mask performing at 100%.

Carlos Ponce

There's a built in safety margin beyond the printed expiration date, Jim.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, do not go past exp. date on Insulin, vaccines, inhalers, liquid anti-biotics, nitroglycerine, and other drugs.

How long are drugs not list, good past exp. date?

To promote that all drugs are good past exp. date is not good or fact.

Robert Braeking

It would appear that hospitals should stockpile their own supplies or draw from the national stockpile for normal needs to keep the stock rotated. I had no idea that N95 masks had an expiration date.

I would think that the better solution is for hospital systems to maintain their own stock of emergency supplies and machinery at recommended levels. The way I read the Constitution, emergency medical supplies are not mentioned, therefore, the responsibility remains with the individual states. Shame on you, New York.

Casey Alan

Amen. This is so true.

Kenneth Diestler

Apparently you don't appreciate why this is and should be called The China Virus and NOT Trump's fault.

Bailey Jones

Oh, dear. [huh]

I'm not, and will never be, a fan of the president. And hindsight is 20/20. There is plenty of incompetence at all levels of our government and our society and in our neighborhoods, but plenty of competence as well. But now is not the time to foment outrage. Every gaff of every politician is being well documented by one arm or another of our partisan media, if bathing in vitriol makes you feel better. Historians and the voters will judge, at the appropriate time.

COVID-19 is not the fault of the President. Could he have done a better job? Of course - what world leader hasn't stumbled during this mess? Genocide? That's a term I expect to hear from right wing morons who blame coronavirus on Democrats (or the military, or the Chinese, or the "deep state") and derail trains and threaten the lives of heroes like Dr. Fouci to make their point.

Sit down, shut up, and do something positive with your time - our nation is in crisis.

Susan Smith

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Randy Chapman

[thumbup]Amen!

Raymond Lewis

What Mr. Jones said.

Gary Miller

I too would give you a thumbs up if I knew how.

Bailey Jones

Like this - [thumbup]

Pete Nanos

Bailey Jones, it's liberals, progressives, socialists, or communists...whatever you call yourselves who are out there doing the blame game. People like you need to know when to shut up.

jim sitgreaves

Oh, my. [rolleyes]

Mr. Jones, while I somewhat appreciate your apparent attempt to ease the level of tension ongoing since the ridiculous post by Mr. Allen, you still managed to get your own political view in with, "Genocide? That's a term I expect to hear from right wing morons who blame coronavirus on Democrats (or the military, or the Chinese, or the "deep state")." I'm curious, why didn't you mention something along the lines of oh, I don't know, the continuing lie by most moronic media and left wing morons that to this day, claim President Trump defended white nationalist and neo-Nazi protestors in Charlottesville, Va.? People that care about the truth know that when the President made reference to nice people on both sides, he added, "and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalist because they should be condemned totally." Just asking for a friend...

Could the Trump administration have done a better job? Yes, I believe so. Hindsight is after all, 20/20. Keep in mind, folks like Pelosi and N.Y. Mayor de Blasio were telling people to go out and have a good time, etc. No one is perfect, but I am thankful the previous administration wasn't at the helm for this uninvited catastrophe.

Bailey Jones

I've never claimed not to have a partisan political view. The difference is I know when it's not relevant.

jim sitgreaves

[huh]

You know when a partisan political view is not relevant??? Yet, you drop your partisan political view in on the discussion. Well, thanks for clearing that up. [unsure]

Have a nice day and stay healthy, nonetheless.

domenico nuckols

I know firsthand Trump is a criminal

domenico nuckols

Ask my cousin who Trump sScrewed out of $1 million

Carlos Ponce

"I know firsthand Trump is a criminal"

Trump was accused, tried and found NOT GUILTY. Apparently that concept is beyond domenico's intelligence level.

And since we cannot ask your cousin, your point is worthless. There is a legal process called LAWSUIT which if your claim of "screwed" has even a modicum of merit, your cousin apparently lost. [whistling]

Dan Freeman

Please give a citation to President Trumps addition of , "and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalist because they should be condemned totally."

Carlos Ponce

Are you asking for a source?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/03/21/trump_didnt_call_neo-nazis_fine_people_heres_proof_139815.html

https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conference-transcript-charlottesville

https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/8/15/1689988/-Full-transcript-of-Donald-Trump-s-press-conference-at-Trump-Tower

Gary Miller

Amen JIm. The previous administration would still be hiding the pandemic or trying to blame Bush.

Mary Drosche

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Paula Flinn

Obama acted before pandemic declared

Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009.

That was when only 20 cases of H1N1 — and no deaths — around the country had been confirmed.

Politifact.com

Jay Clark

[beam]

domenico nuckols

In 1979 I was stationed in upstate New York. I was fortunate to work second sift. I volunteered to drive ambulance during the day. I brought my cousin in an ambulance after he went to a court case involving President Trump. He had a heart attack. First hand he is a criminal.

Carlos Ponce

If it is a court case involving Donald Trump, it's on record. And the judge's opinion must not have been favorable to your cousin since you say he was "screwed".

In 1979, the only court case involving the Trumps were filed by the New York Urban League. But the lawsuit was one stemming from an accusation accusing Fred Trump of denying Blacks renting apartments in his buildings in 1973. Once Donald Trump became the president of the company he inherited that lawsuit. The initial settlement (1975) had the Trump Company placing an ad in the local newspapers saying they do not discriminate and to send a bi-weekly list of vacancies to the New York Urban League, a civil rights group, and give them priority for certain locations. The Urban League did not like the decision and filed another lawsuit starting in 1978. This is the only lawsuit on record. Not liking a court decision is not being "screwed". The legal actions were handled in CIVIL court, not criminal.

David Hardee

The lack of details makes it difficult to accept your conclusion. A million-dollar "screwing" is not evidence of a criminal charge. And if a court decision resulted in your cousin's loss the fact you disagree does not justify your claim of "criminal" or use of the term "screwing."

domenico nuckols

President Trump retirement home Sing Sing

Carlos Ponce

domenico, do you know the difference between a civil case and a criminal case? There are NO criminals in a civil case, just litigants.

Harvey Mueller

This is quite the telling tale that this whole thread is about Trump and his action/reaction/inaction/over-reaction. The TDS talking points claim Trump is a monarch ... a despot wannabe. But who is standing up and taking charge of this situation? What were Schumer, Pelosi, Nadler and Schiff doing in December to sound the alarm? How about in January and February? When are any of them going to stand up and take control? They have already ceded all power to Pres Trump and refuse to accept blame for their part in the federal response to this pandemic. Trump is not a monarch and blame if any needs to be shared across all federal bureaucracy. Yes that includes all of Senate and House representatives including the Republicans. But you can't hang this on Trump's action/reaction/inaction/over-reaction exclusively.

Pete Nanos

The other issue at work here is why would a paper allow such an rant to be published? I think we know the answer.

Bailey Jones

Because it's a free press? Because every American has the right to express their views?

Pete Nanos

It's no longer a free press when the press actively colludes with one side on a consistent basis. It's a branch of the DNC. Pravda was free press in your definition.

Ted Gillis

Pete that is a bunch of hooey! Pravda? Really?

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