President Trump has accused the mainstream media of providing fake news, and being an enemy of the people. I agree with him. Why, because of the hypocrisy and dishonesty exhibited by the mainstream media on a daily basis.

What hypocrisy? The way they gave Bill Clinton a pass on sexual harassment charges. The way they ignore the bullying tactics of Maxine Waters, but criticize the president when he “bullies” (in the view of the mainstream media) the media or anyone else.

What dishonesty? The weeks of coverage when Michael Brown was shot, but very little coverage that Michael Brown was the aggressor — not the police officer who shot him in self-defense.

How about dishonesty by omission? The mainstream media gives great coverage when anti-Trump books and interviews are released, but little coverage of books or interviews describing efforts to undermine the President by Democrats and federal employees who “dislike” the president.

If Americans really want to know the truth about events in the world, they need to tune out mainstream media and tune in to Fox News and talk radio. These are the last places to hear the closest thing to the truth left in America.

John Hatch

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Steve Fouga

"If Americans really want to know the truth about events in the world, they need to tune out mainstream media and tune in to Fox News and talk radio."

Hahahaha! Dream on. It's propaganda, dude! You've been brainwashed. [cool]

Claudia Burnam

Steve, like everything, it's a question of who is brainwashed! E G Wiley

Allison Buchtien

Perhaps we should all watch "The Brainwashing of My Dad" https://www.amazon.com/Brainwashing-My-Dad-Matthew-Modine/dp/B01C6AFEQG

Allison Buchtien

I think we will just have to agree to disagree. You believe your fake news and I'll believe mine.

Gary Miller

FOX and talk radio aren't the only honest sources of real news. Sinclare news, Brightbart, CNS and Town Hall are smaller outlets but even more reliable truth.

Carlos Ponce

What's in the FAKE NEWS today?
"Trump Administration Diverted $10 Million From FEMA To Fund ICE's Immigration Crackdown: Document"
The "document" was provided by Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.) and first appeared on MSNBC - The Rachel Maddow show and spread quickly to other anti-Trump news outlets. But is it true? NO!
"Under no circumstances was any disaster relief funding transferred from @fema to immigration enforcement efforts. This is a sorry attempt to push a false agenda at a time when the administration is focused on assisting millions on the East Coast facing a catastrophic disaster," DHS Spokesman Tyler Houlton
Do you see the mainstream media printing or airing a correction? No. It's their fake story and they're sticking with it because it makes the Trump administration look bad. It follows Rahm Emanuels line," Never let a crisis go to waste."
Prior to the FAKE story about funds diverted there was the Washington Post story declaring "Another hurricane is about to batter our coast. Trump is complicit."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/another-hurricane-is-about-to-batter-our-coast-trump-is-complicit/2018/09/11/ccaed766-b5fb-11e8-a7b5-adaaa5b2a57f_story.html?utm_term=.522cb89d9fbb
Really? Don't they realize how STUPID that headline is? I hope you do!

KA Rex

Read the document for yourself and decide. Don’t need any news organization or person to explain to one what one can clearly read. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/11/femas-budget-cut-10-million-support-ice-documents-show/1274723002/

“Department of Homeland Security 2018 FY Transfer and Reprogramming Notifications”
Line Items on pg. 29 show money taken from FEMA departments: Regional Operation, Response and Recovery - Recovery, Response and Recovery - Response, Mitigation, Preparedness and Protection, Mission Support and Law Enforcement Training.

Carlos Ponce

KA Rex needs to read further. The funds that were transferred were left over, unused funds budgeted in 2017. No current FEMA funds are being transferred. And ICE isn't the only agency receiving unused funds. The USSS (US Secret Service) is also using the unused funds.
Isn't that the way you set up your own budget? You budget a certain amount for X. When those funds aren't needed you use the money for something else.

KA Rex

Well, lets be specific about that. Page 40:

Pursuant to authorities provided in Section 505 of the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2017 (P.L. 115-31), the Department intends to use 50 percent of unobligated salaries and expense balances remaining available as of the end of fiscal year 2017, as recorded in the financial records on May 31, 2018. Additional detail on each Component is provided below:

Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA): The Department requests to transfer $728,604 from FEMA O&S.

So, the other 8 and half million or so?

Carlos Ponce

Key word is "unobligated".

Emile Pope

There's no question that this president is corrupt. There's no question that he tried to obstruct justice. There 's no question that he has committed impeachable offenses. So now his supporters are hoping that their propaganda outlets will get him enough support to allow him to shut down investigation and prosecution of him. When the president launches an attack against the justice department and the FBI while offering no proof of misconduct and congress fails to act or supports him, they are complicit. And relying of made up news by Fox doesn't make it right.

Carlos Ponce

"There's no question that this president is..."
Question it, Emile, If you want the truth. But if the truth doesn't suit you.....

Priscilla Files

You’re grasping at straws - Trump was raised corrupt - he’s always been that way. The folks that voted for him knew that and they’re trying to make him into something resembling a human with empathy. He will throw his own family under the bus (sounds like a certain TX Senator) to make a buck/save his own hide. The louder y’all yell (and he yells), the guiltier he looks. No shame in backing a losing horse, but if you knew it was lame and bet your kids’ college fund on it, then...

Carlos Ponce

Thank you Priscilla for your post. One day you will know the truth. Trump like you and me are sinners. As one becomes a Christian, all the wrongs are forgotten. Vote for the person who best represents your values. If that is not Trump, so be it. But the Republican candidates will win this November and in 2020, Trump included. True believers recognize a born again Christian. The majority of Texans especially those in Galveston County recognize truth.[beam]

Emile Pope

trump isn't a Christian...what has he ever done that was Christian? Nothing.

Carlos Ponce

That's not for Emile to judge.

Steve Fouga

Or Carlos, for that matter... [beam]

Carlos Ponce

True believers recognize a born again Christian.

Carlos Ponce

"When the president launches an attack against the justice department and the FBI while offering no proof of misconduct...."
Read the emails and texts between Peter Strzok (FBI agent) and Lisa Page (FBI attorney). Plenty of proof implicating other members of the FBI including former FBI Acting Director Andrew McCabe. But if you watch CNN, MSNBC, et al you wouldn't know this.

Emile Pope

Innocent people don't run from investigations. Innocent people don't insult investigators. Innocent people don't try to stop investigations. Innocent people don't signal they'll pardon co-conspirators if they stay silent. And innocent people testify!

Gary Miller

Emile! Thousands of innocent people lost their jobs and 4 innocent executives were jailed because of the dishonesty of Rosenstine, Muelers lead prosecuter. Did Mueler hire him because he was crooked? Trusting a crooked cop can be bad policy. Trusting a lying media can be as bad.

Emile Pope

Innocent? One was convicted and four pled guilty...

Michael Byrd

Wow... it must be an awful burden carrying around all those lefty conspiracy theories all the time.

Bill Cochrane

Emile fails to use- In My MInd. or IMO or IMHO. What someone's opinion is, or what they think does not establish "no question". But IMHO most all Democrats have tunnel vision. They do not watch FOX, Hannity or Rush because they refuse to understand what is going on around them.

Emile Pope

Hannity's lawyer just pled guilty to a felony. And he named trump as a co-conspirator. Yeah right I'll listen to Hannity...

Carlos Ponce

"Yeah right I'll listen to Hannity.." You already do or were you lying when you said you listen to FOX 24/7?

Bill Cochrane

Emile fails to use- In My MInd. or IMO or IMHO. What someone's opinion is, or what they think does not establish "no question". But IMHO most all Democrats have tunnel vision. They do not watch FOX, Hannity or Rush because they refuse to understand what is going on around them. Oddly enough Emile seems to be normal in many of his posts. Demoncraticality infects many. A dose of FOX reality is usually ignored.

George Croix

Do trolls think?

No evidence of it..............[rolleyes]

Steve Fouga

Bill, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. Fox used to be my preferred cable channel. I enjoyed O'Reilly, Hannity, Van Susteren. Rush was my favorite talk radio host. They were entertaining, and I identified with their muscular take on what it means to be American.

However, at some point Fox took a pronounced turn to the Right, not that they were ever centrist. It was more than I could stand. On top of that, I realized I was being fed a load of nonsense, easily rebuttable by referring to any number of other news sources. Eventually Hannity, and shows like Fox & Friends, became caricatures of responsible reporting and commentary. They distribute propaganda, in the same way RT and Sputnik News do. How can Fox be right, and ALL other sources be wrong?

You say Democrats don't watch Fox, etc., because they refuse to understand what is going on around them. Please know that this is EXACTLY how Democrats, and much of the rest of the world, feel about those who rely on Fox, Rush, et al.

Carlos Ponce

And the polecat said I'm not a skunk. I may look and smell like a skunk, but I'm not a skunk. "I'm not a Democrat or a Republican." Too much evidence that you're a Democrat.

Steve Fouga

Too much evidence for whom? I certainly don't consider your opinion more valid than my family's and friends'. My liberal friends consider me too conservative; my conservative friends, too liberal. Across my life, I've voted Republican as much as Democrat. Both parties must view me as up for grabs, based on the amount of mailers I get from each. Believe me, Carlos, you're the extremist in this discussion, not me.

But, I will admit that any Democrat running against Ted Cruz or Donald Trump will get my vote, because I consider them unworthy of public office. For all the other races, I'll do my homework and decide. I'm a centrist Independent, though I have to say the Repubs are pissing me off more than the Dems lately.

Trust me, Carlos, we would not be having this discussion about Fox News or my party affiliation if John Kasich, Jeb Bush, or Marco Rubio were president.

George Croix

Wow.

Propaganda.

It was propaganda when the first report about Benghazi came out?
It was propaganda when the first report about Hillary's potty server came out?
It was propaganda when the first report about the Obama election teams 'interferring' in the Israeli elections came out?
It was propaganda when the first reports about Anthony Weiner's laptop having classified info on it?
It was propaganda when the first reports of the Planned implosion of Obamacare came out and we were mocked by Gruber came out?
It was propaganda when the first reports of Hillary's co-conspirators 'bleaching' and wiping clean records under subpeona and destroying communications devices came out?
It was propaganda when the first reports showing the 'Gentle Giant' strong arm thief wasn't just an inncocent victim of yet more Police brutality came out?
It was propaganda when the first reports of the Mayor of Baltimore told Polcie to stand down and give the rioters 'room to destroy' first came out?

And on and on and on.....while such hard hitting counter reporting like how many Diet Cokes Pres. trump drinks was THE focus for most of a full day....

The propaganda is there, but it's in the claim of who's doing it.....
Ya got plenty of company though......

Emile Pope

Still is propaganda...

George Croix

WHAT propaganda, Pope?
Can you name some? Any?
Maybe you and the 'resistance' characters can come up with an example of it, besides the ones alimentary sourced..???

I'm betting that's a no.......

Emile Pope

Whatever Sarah Sanders and trump says...that's why they never provide supporting evidence...

Carlos Ponce

Not evidence that Emile would accept. Facts to Emile are like a wooden cross to a vampire.

George Croix

Yep. 'No' it is...again.....
Troll

Emile Pope

Wooden cross? Explains a lot...

Steve Fouga

George, I don't complain about the stuff Fox gets right, or the stuff they report alongside MSM. It's possible for an outlet to do a decent job of investigative reporting, and at the same time distribute propaganda.

George Croix

Rather than 'Pope' it, Steve, give an example of the propaganda.
I'm in nobody's pocket, and wrong is wrong.....if they are....

Steve Fouga

Geez, George, it's hard to know where to start, there's so much of it. I'd say the institutionalized repetition of Trump's lies; the attacks, along with Trump, against the FBI, CIA, Justice Dept, and the so-called "deep state;" the endless disparaging of the Mueller investigation as a rigged witch hunt, and complaints about it taking too long; the slavish support of the Republican Party, it's policies, and its values, whether they make sense or not, and all-out attacks on Democrats during election season.

I realize that my favorite cable outlet, MSNBC, does some of the same. It unabashedly supports Democrats, and attacks the Trump Administration, for example. However, it doesn't routinely spread lies. Journalistic mistakes and biased commentary, sure, but not institutionalized lying. Fox News does some good reporting, but its top hosts like Hannity and Fox & Friends perpetuate Trump's lies, and function as the propaganda arm of Trump and the Republican Party. Sometimes it's hard to tell who's making the crap up, Trump or Fox.

Carlos Ponce

" However, it doesn't routinely spread lies." You really believe that Steve?

George Croix

"....the so-called "deep state;".....
Rip van Fouga, is it???[beam][beam]
Where ya been, Steve. Didn't MSNBC report the FBI emails between lover boy and his hottie and the NYT anonymous (the new 'reality' - anonymity...) article claiming allegations from a 'senior staffer' in the White House, etc.....
THAT is all made up....just propaganda.....?
Breath deeply.....have a cold Diet Coke.....say goodbye to Morning Joe and his life partner.......

Steve Fouga

Absolutely, Carlos. Like i said, occasional mistakes, but not institutionalized lying.

Carlos Ponce

You really should take an objective look at MSNBC; their lies, their obfuscations, their misleading reports, the omission of key important stories.

Steve Fouga

Carlos, I've posted before that I don't take everything MSNBC says seriously. I enjoy Rachel because she's funny and smart, and I find her show entertaining. I believe that much of what MSNBC does report is true, but I do understand they don't cover everything, and that whenever they inject opinion, it will be with a left-hand spin. I KNOW that going in. I'm smart enough to filter what I hear from MSNBC.

Are YOU smart enough to filter your news sources? Do YOU understand that however solid Fox's reporting might be, that whenever opinion is injected, it will have a right-hand spin? Fox is not even close to neutral.

I read or watch several news sources almost every day, including some of the British outlets. Trust me when I say that most mainstream news sources run closer to MSNBC than to Fox.

Plus, I'm confident that if Fox or some other conservative outlet reports a significant piece of news of the type that MSNBC doesn't, one of the forum participants will let me know about it. [wink]

Steve Fouga

George, I am thinking about going back to diet soft drinks, but if I do it'll probably be DP. [smile]

I never watch Morning Joe. Just Rachel, and occasionally Ari Melber.

George Croix

If you can stand to watch Rachel for more than 2 minutes, then you are one tough sonufagun....[ohmy]

Steve Fouga

Acquired taste.

George Croix

Not even when the poorest kid in school and eating single slice butter sandwiches was I hungry enough for that taste.....[beam][wink][rolleyes]

Diane Turski

Ha! Ha! I see it is "Opposite Day" again according to this opinion piece!

Jarvis Buckley

Pope to say he was Hannitys lawyer then say our president is a co-conspirator make you speaking with
total lack of truth or knowledge. Or both. Obvious you are in panic mode about mid term elections. I'm thinking you need a safe space &
A good bottle of wine.

Emile Pope

Cohen was Hannity's lawyer. He admitted it. Cohen said that trump directed him to make illegal payments...thanks for stopping by.

Carlos Ponce

" He admitted it. Cohen said that trump directed him to make illegal payments...
False. The payments were not illegal. What is in question is if Cohen making the payments is considered a campaign contribution. Not so if Trump had him on retainer and Cohen was reimbursed.

Emile Pope

Garbage. If the payments weren't illegal he wouldn't be pleading guilty. And if trump reimbursed him, which he did, then that makes it EXTREMELY illegal...apparently you don't understand the campaign finance laws...

Emile Pope

Ask Dinesh D'souza...

Casey Alan

After reading this article, thank you for the good laugh. I don’t know where to begin. In 1998 Bill Clinton was impeached for perjury. I admit that social media wasn’t what is now back then. It was on every news channel. The comedians had a field day with it. Even Trump brought it up over and over again when running for president. Even though Bill Clinton wasn’t the one running for president. There was a book and a movie about how President Obama was going to enforce martial law and end the world. President Obama is no longer president and I’m still waiting. If you would watch something other than FOXNews you may be better in form. Or should I say Faux new.

Daniel Hochman

This is simple. Every host or anchor or pundit who leave Fox declare the station to be full of crap. But that isn't enough to convince brainwashed ignorance to turn away. Every single time Trump opens his mouth he lies. EVERY SINGLE TIME! Puerto Rico suffered horrible losses during hurricane season with almost 3,000 confirmed deaths. DEATHS...people suffering and dying and he outright lies to the entire world saying those deaths did not happen. What an idiot and a slap in the face of our PR brothers and sisters. I am sick and tired of Trump supporters continuing to make up things to justify this imbecile's destructive actions. He is a laughing stock and has made our country a laughing stock around the world. Those of you still trying to make excuses for him are delusional and problematic for the good of this nation.

George Croix

Barbvery?

Bravery.....

Not close enough....

Bad keyboard.....

Anne Reiswerg

How Trump gaslights America:

1. Make up something.
2.Doubledown and deflect.
3.Create suspense.
4. Discredit opponents.
5. Declare Victory...regardless of the facts.

Carlos Ponce

What has he made up, Anne?

Emile Pope

If you're asking that question then you wouldn't comprehend the answer...

Carlos Ponce

"If you're asking that question then you wouldn't comprehend the answer..."
Easily, Emile, easily.

Carlos Ponce

"with almost 3,000 confirmed deaths." That was a computer generated estimate based on worst case projections. CNN asked the Puerto Rican Funeral homes and they came up with a number of 499.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/health/hurricane-maria-uncounted-deaths-invs/index.html

KA Rex

More problems with telling the whole story? Doesn’t fit the “facts” you want?
The CNN story’s dateline is November 20, 2017. Almost a year ago.

Only half the homes reported: “CNN was able to collect responses from 112 of the island's funeral homes. That's about half the total number in Puerto Rico, according to Eduardo Cardona, director of the Puerto Rico Association of Funeral Home Directors.”

“Surveying funeral homes likely underestimates the number of hurricane deaths, said Eric Klinenberg, director of New York University's Institute for Public Knowledge...”

The actual facts about the 2018 survey:

“A team of 11 investigators from GWU, four researchers from the University of Puerto Rico and other local community leaders spent months poring over death certificates on the island, looking at vital statistics data stretching back seven years before the storm to compare mortality rates.
The GWU researchers included epidemiologists, a demographer, a public health nutritionist, environmental health scientists, two public health research assistants, an anthropologist, a behavioral scientist and two health communication experts.
They interviewed doctors, health officials, funeral home directors, hospital directors, forensic pathologists and others involved with the death certification process to get a full picture of how deaths were classified after the storm, and used guidelines set by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Along the way, their methodology was reviewed by a Johns Hopkins University researcher and by a panel of national and international experts in the field, Santos-Burgoa said.” https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-toll-study-george-washington-university-death-toll-donald-trump/1288908002/

Carlos Ponce

So they're counting everyone who died after Hurricane Maria as a Maria death? Seems that the CNN article from November would be more accurate since the hurricane occurred in Puerto Rico in September of that year.
"Researchers with George Washington said they counted deaths over the span of six months."
Included in the new number are deaths from diabetes and heart disease. Really?
Interesting how numbers suddenly increase when money and politics is involved.

KA Rex

The study results (Ascertainment of the Estimated Excess Mortality from Hurricane María in Puerto Rico) were based on excess mortality:
“Results from the preferred statistical model, shown below, estimate that excess mortality due to Hurricane María using the displacement scenario is estimated at 1,271 excess deaths in September and October (95% CI: 1,154-1,383), 2,098 excess deaths from September to December (95% CI: 1,872-2,315), and, 2,975 (95% CI: 2,658-3,290) excess deaths for the total study period of September 2017 through February 2018.”

Do you need that defined? “Excess deaths are deaths that exceed the regular death rate predicted for a given population (WHO 2018) had there not been a natural disaster or other unexpected or calamitous event, such as an epidemic or industrial accident (Geronimus et al 2004; Haentjens et al. 2010).”

“Included in the new number are deaths from diabetes and heart disease.” Perhaps you should cite where that came from. It is not in the actual report which I cite from and can be found here: https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/projects/PRstudy/Acertainment%20of%20the%20Estimated%20Excess%20Mortality%20from%20Hurricane%20Maria%20in%20Puerto%20Rico.pdf

KA Rex

Why didn't that come out right the first time? A re-post.

The study results (Ascertainment of the Estimated Excess Mortality from Hurricane María in Puerto Rico) were based on excess mortality:
“Results from the preferred statistical model, shown below, estimate that excess mortality due to Hurricane María using the displacement scenario is estimated at 1,271 excess deaths in September and October (95% CI: 1,154-1,383), 2,098 excess deaths from September to December (95% CI: 1,872-2,315), and, 2,975 (95% CI: 2,658-3,290) excess deaths for the total study period of September 2017 through February 2018.”

Do you need that defined? “Excess deaths are deaths that exceed the regular death rate predicted for a given population (WHO 2018) had there not been a natural disaster or other unexpected or calamitous event, such as an epidemic or industrial accident (Geronimus et al 2004; Haentjens et al. 2010).”

“Included in the new number are deaths from diabetes and heart disease.” Perhaps you should cite where that came from. It is not in the actual report which I cite from and can be found here: https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/projects/PRstudy/Acertainment%20of%20the%20Estimated%20Excess%20Mortality%20from%20Hurricane%20Maria%20in%20Puerto%20Rico.pdf


Carlos Ponce

"preferred statistical model" - computer projection, not an actual body count.

KA Rex

Based on the actual body count: The PRVSR documented 16,608 deaths from September 2017 to February 2018—9,054 males and 7,554 females.

Did you actually read the report? Yes or no.

Carlos Ponce

Doesn't matter if I read it or not. Stretching the body count from a September hurricane all the way to February of the next year is not statistically right.

Steve Fouga

Actually Carlos, that's how it's always done. The totals are updated until people quit dying as a result of the disaster.

Emile Pope

The fact that they refused to read it is all you need to know...

Carlos Ponce

The data base is flawed if it includes deaths long after the hurricane. That's called COMMON SENSE, Emile.

George Croix

If the internet awarded medals, there would be a lot of barvery awards........[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Rusty Schroeder

All news sources report to their core audience, that is a fact. I used to love watching Meet the Press on Sunday mornings with Tim Russert, recorded it if I wasn't home. Always the views of both side were presented and argued, with 90% of the time at the end both parties being cordial to one another upon exit. Today I wouldn't watch that hot mess with Chuck Todd if forced, it is an insult to Russert's stewardship of the program. I try to watch the 5:30 pm National News, either ABC or NBC, I get the basics of the news of the day. Then I process it through reading different sources on the internet. All Networks, Newspapers, Talk Shows are biased to the audience they report too. You just have to decide by yourself where the truth lays, hopefully somewhere in the middle.

Dan Freeman

Fox News is at best an unstable news source. Fox departures in 2017:

Bob Beckel fired for racist remarks.
Bill Shine resigned for unknown reasons.
Bill O’Reilly fired for sexual harassment.
Megyn Kelly forced because of harassment by Roger Ailes.
Gretchen Carlson forced because of harassment by Roger Ailes
Roger Ailes forced out for sexual harassment.
Greta Van Sustern left because of a “financial disagreement.”
Stacey Dash fired for being controversial.
Michelle Fields fired for accusing Corey Lewandowski of assaulting her.
Andrea Tantaros fired for complaining about Roger Ailes.
George Will for feuding with Bill O’Reilly.
Ed Rollins quit for unknown reasons.
Bo Dietl fired in the Roger Ailes debacle.
Judy Slater fired for demeaning African Americans.
Brigette Boyl and Nikole King left Fox in the Roger Ailes debacle.
https://variety.com/gallery/everyone-who-left-fox-news-bill-oreilly-megyn-kelly/

By contrast Judy Woodruff has worked with PBS since 1982. She worked alongside Gwen Ifill for the last five years of Ms Ifill’s life. Now that is stability.

Carlos Ponce

"Bob Beckel fired for racist remarks." He was the Liberal pundit on "The Five".

George Croix

Also not mentioned was Beckel was a raucus, flaming way out there combative 'progressive'....a guy who, when barack Obama had been in office for some 6 months, in 2009, called him "The greatest President we've ever had"........
Did I mention he was a fortune teller? A bad one.....[beam][beam][wink]
Probably a reason Beckel's politics weren't pointed out, with the race card in play.......a cynic might call it deception by omission...but I won't call it that....

Dan Freeman

So? He still worked for Faux News of the moment

Carlos Ponce

Dan, you're hilarious! He's still a Progressive Liberal - just like YOU!

George Croix

By that way of looking at it, the entire country was complicit in Bill Clinton's Oval Office intern dallying because he worked for us at the time.....

Carlos Ponce

Dan Freeman posts: "By contrast Judy Woodruff has worked with PBS since 1982"
Not a fair comparison since FOX has been in existence only since October 1996. Sean Hannity has been with them during the entire existence of FOX News.

Dan Freeman

Hannity is a commentator not a reporter. Probably because he was a drop out from many colleges. Hence you should never cite him as a source for anything other than opionion.

Gwen Ifill completely over lapped the existence of Faux News with both original reporting, news reading and commentary.

Jarvis Buckley

Enjoy your bottle Pope.

George Croix

The news is dynamic and changes day to day, and there is no value to hidebound jounalism, especially when it's based as much, or more, or too often even totally, on political ideology pof the reporter/news source.
In a 24 hour news cycle where near instantaneous updates are possible, it's a LOT more important to just have facts presented, absent embellishment, than it is to worry about who personally presents them.
Dan Rather, foir instance, was a decades long face until he got a little free and easy with the facts about a President he disliked.
Stability?
Is that needed for the 'journalism' of reporting how many Diet Cokes a man drinks in a day, while ignoring real news that conflicts with corporate ideology....?
CNN is pretty stable, yet they to date refuse to report the correction that all other outlets bigger than a breadbox made that Lanny Davis, he of Clinton era fame but now Manaforts lawyer, by his own admission NOW, MADE UP, has NO PROOF, of his own allegations about Trump knowing ahead of time about his son's meeting in Trump Tower.
They 'stand by it'.....one wonders how they stand by what the original, and only, source of the ifo, the one who gave it to them, now says was bogus....
Sounds like they are reporter stable, but a bit less mentally so.....[beam][wink][whistling]

Jarvis Buckley

In all honesty Pres. Trump is not being investigated by anyone. Only the socialists says different. If you are fair minded you would agree.

Priscilla Files

Since when’did y’all start a Satire section, ‘cause this letter is hilarious?!😃

Carlos Ponce

It's called "one man's opinion". But laughter is good for the soul. Remember the old saying, "he who laughs last, laughs best." I'll be laughing in November.[beam]

George Croix

For 'truth', it's whatever you believe it is.
For facts, it's whatever it really is.
The news nowadays is more about encouraging truths than presenting facts.

Mike Box

If you don't watch BOTH Fox and CNN you have no idea what is going on in the world or why. If you watch only one there are important stories that you don't even know about. If you don't hear the other side of the story how can you possibly know which side to believe? Watch them both and think for yourself.

George Croix

How many of us bemoaning some network or other ever actually watch it/them to see if there are any changes for better or worse?
Anybody?
Anybody?
I suspect that this subject, like most others these days, is 98% anecdotal and 2% actual effort to investigate.

Dan Freeman

Yes Mr. Croix I watch all four mainstream news outlets plus PBS. One of the wonders of digital recording. Fox News is often reasonable. Sadly, the Fox commentators appear to ignore their own news feeds.

Steve Fouga

Kudos! What do consider mainstream, Dan?

George Croix

That's two things (or is it three now...?) in ONE year, Dan.
Is the Earth tilting further on it's axis...???[huh]

"Commentators'....some are, some aren't.
Unfortunately, the many news sources actual reporters investigations and reports and their commentators opinions and presentations are too often conflated by viewers (and, sometimes, by the news sources).
Hmmmmm....pretty much like we do right here........

Emile Pope

Fox News viewers have consistently been shown to be the least informed and educated viewers time after time. This is because Fox only tell its viewers things that support their prejudices and fears instead of facts. Good for ratings but bad for America...

Carlos Ponce

"Fox News viewers have consistently been shown to be the least informed and educated viewers time after time."
You ought to know, Emile. In a previous post you posted you view FOX News 24/7.

Emile Pope

Apparently you don't understand sarcasm...

Carlos Ponce

Just going by what Emile posted.

George Croix

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