Ukraine’s government announced two bureaucrats were convicted and several were fired for conspiring with the Hillary Clinton campaign during the 2016 elections. Ukraine officials tried to tell President Barack Obama that some of their bureaucrats tried to help Clinton by harming Trump. Obama and his holdovers ignored them.

Ukraine will now start an investigation of the Ukraine holding company Buristma, owned by an oligarch, and its board of directors. They suspect money laundering was Buristma’s main business. John Kerry’s stepson and Joe Biden’s son were on the Buristma board of directors, both paid 12 times the normal rate for corporate board members.

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Carlos Ponce

Politico has not backed away from their article " Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire-Kiev officials are scrambling to make amends with the president-elect after quietly working to boost Clinton"

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Politico is not a Trump friendly website either.

And the Ukrainian Ambassador's Op-Ed in the Hill is still there for all to see where he disparages candidate Trump.

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/international/290411-ukraines-ambassador-trumps-comments-send-wrong-message-to

And yet Democrats claim that Ukrainian efforts to interfere in the 2016 elections were "debunked". Much evidence to the contrary, Democrats.

"Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election — that’s a fact, not a conspiracy theory"

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/ukraine-interfered-in-the-2016-election-thats-a-fact-not-a-conspiracy-theory

Did Russians interfere? Yes. Did the Ukraine interfere? Yes, and so did China, Mexico and a host of other countries. And this is not the first election that foreign powers tried to interfere. And the United States has interfered in other countries' elections. Obama used US government funds to try to influence the Israeli elections.

Paula Flinn

FBI Director Christopher Wray disagrees with you. He says there is no evidence the Ukraine was involved in influencing the 2016 election. But you Trump die hards believe what you want to believe, Fox Fantasy “News,” and the lies of President Trump and “misrepresentations” of AG Barr. Inventing falsehoods and supporting misrepresentations doesn’t make us “great.” No President has ever called the FBI “scum.” Thats not “great” for morale. Trump is not making us “great” in any way. Our allies make fun of Trump, and Trump continues to lie to the American people. Trump lied just last night about using military money to build the wall. A judge has ruled that he cannot divert the funds from the military to the wall. Repeating that lie is not making us “great.” His whole speech was a pack of lies. And you all make excuses for him. That’s not making us “great.”

First, AG Barr mis-represented the Müeller report, now, Trump and Barr have discredited the Inspector General’s Report. That’s not making us “great.” Trump was not spied on, but they’re still pushing that lie. That’s not “great.” The Trump Administration will stonewall impeachment, refusing to provide documents and/or witnesses. That will not make us “great.”

The result of this Administration’s over 10,000 lies and misrepresentations is that our Allies cannot trust this Administration. Trump has lost the trust of people who care about this country and our allies. The lack of trust in the USA and this Administration is not making this country “great.”

Bailey Jones

We've seen what the requirements are for being a "successful" member of the Trump administration - as Mr. Barr is. I'm sure his performance review will read "exceeds expectations".

Carlos Ponce

"no evidence the Ukraine was involved in influencing the 2016 election" Because the FBI has not look into it. The former director pushed "RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA - and nothing else.

"AG Barr mis-represented the Müeller report" No, he READ the report, not Liberal talking points.

" now, Trump and Barr have discredited the Inspector General’s Report" No, just the conclusion. Looking at it page by page does not arrive at Horowitz's conclusion of no political or anti-Trump motive. I suggest you take the time to read the IG Report and draw your own conclusion. It's an eye opener.

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2019/a20009.pdf

Gary Miller

Paula> Substituting Democrat "SPIN" for facts is normal for the CNN educated.

Gary Miller

Paula> USMCA finally passed by the House. A trade accord all three countries believe is good for all three countries. A years benefits lost because Pelosi didn't want Trump to "Make America Great Again".

Miceal O'Laochdha

Let's not forget Berserkistan; they were up to their eyeballs in US election interference and so was Elbonia. We know now for a fact that the Clintons had promised waterproof boots for every Elbonian if they could help her get elected. AND...Bill was a silent partner in the boot company!

Bailey Jones

But let's talk about the decade long relationship between Ivanka Trump and Christopher Steele. Surely it can't be a COINCIDENCE that the man who wrote the famous peepee dossier that led to the Mueller investigation which emboldened the president to extort Ukraine and then get impeached for it was email buddies with Trump's daughter? C'mon man. WHAT'S YOUR GAME, IVANKA???

Miceal O'Laochdha

That is it! Ivanka's designer boots for the water-logged citizens of Elbonia. The Clintons will never be able to compete with her style! The election is in the bag now!

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, about Ivanka and Mr. Steele........ NOTHING THERE. Steele and Ivanka Trump met at a dinner in 2007 and remained friends until 2015. A man pursuing a relationship with an attractive younger lady with money in her family is not unheard of. You probably wouldn't but many men would. Nothing came of it. Once Ivanka started dating Jared Kushner again, Christopher Steele lost interest once she married Kushner.

Bailey your post is worthy of gossip columns but is really beneath your dignity.

Bailey Jones

"Bailey your post is worthy of gossip columns" - yay! We finally agree on something! Now, if you could apply this lesson...

Paula Flinn

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Gary Miller

Carlos> You and I are not surprised the CNN educated don't seem to care that two sons of Democrat US presidential candidates may be arrested for Money laundering in Ukraine and perhaps convicted. Has CNN told any of you CNN educated "supper smarts" that one of them is in jail today in Arkansas for lying to a court. I don't know if the other has a criminal record but being a Democrat I would not be surprised.

Bailey Jones

"two sons of Democrat US presidential candidates may be arrested for Money laundering in Ukraine and perhaps convicted and one of them is in jail today in Arkansas for lying to a court."

That would indeed make for a smart supper, Gary.

Source? I've watched all of Colbert's opening monologues this week and haven't heard a peep.

Gary Miller

Bailey> Isn't Colbert a lying champion on CNN?

Paula Flinn

Donald Trump has had money laundering charges against him. The Bayrock Group in Trump Towers was written about in the Washington Post in March, 2019. Trump has been associated with “dirty Russian money” for over 10 years as he regained his wealth after the Taj Mahal and other casinos failed in Atlantic City. Democratic candidate, Michael Bloomberg, the richest man in New York State, said that US Banks would not loan Donald Trump money because he didn’t pay them back. He had to get bank loans from “other countries.” He said this in 2016, at the Democratic Convention.

This is probably why President Trump won’t release his tax information like he promised. Now the Supreme Court will decide if he must make his tax returns public.

Carlos Ponce

According to that WAPO article those allegations were looked into by Team Mueller. And it does not appear int the Mueller Report. Why? They find nothing. Team Mueller did investigate Felix Sater who left Bayrock Group in 2008.

"The managing director of the Bayrock Group was Felix Sater, who’s become enmeshed in the investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller III into Russian interference in the 2016 election."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/04/12/heres-how-trump-soho-was-marketed-to-russians/

"Newly unsealed court records confirm that Felix Sater, a former business associate of President Donald Trump, was an invaluable FBI source who used his ties to the criminal underworld to rat out New York’s organized crime families and gather intelligence on Al Qaida and arms dealers in Afghanistan."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/24/felix-sater-trump-associate-was-invaluable-fbi-sou/

And Russian born Felix Sater's business relationship to Trump? Bayrock Group had offices two floors down The Trump organization in Trump Towers and "Sater was pushing for a deal to build a Trump Tower project in Moscow".

The Washington Post article was all bark, no bite.[whistling]

Bailey Jones

"Isn't Colbert a lying champion on CNN?" Lol, Gary, no, he isn't on CNN.

Carlos Ponce

Paula posts "Now the Supreme Court will decide if he must make his tax returns public." And that's what happens when the legislative branch has a disagreement with the executive branch - the Supreme Court makes a decision, the legislative can NOT claim "obstruction" as grounds for impeachment for failing to supply "witnesses" and documents unless the Supreme Court orders it. Read the following:

"Look, the most important development happened today. The Supreme Court of the United States absolutely pulled the rug out of part two of the impeachment referral by granting certiorari, by granting review in a case where Trump challenged a congressional subpoena. And the Supreme Court said we're going to hear this case. Think of what that message is: It's Trump was right. You don't have to comply with a subpoena of Congress unless a court tells you you have to comply. Now, we don't know how the court is going to come out. But they made it clear that's a viable issue. So, that charge, that ground of impeachment, should be immediately removed by the House and not sent to the Senate. There's nothing to it anymore after the Supreme Court today said you're entitled to a review on an issue when the president challenges the subpoena power of Congress. It's all done. It's over." - Alan Dershowitz

Carlos Ponce

The truth is going to be painful for trump haters - if they ever hear it.

Bailey Jones

It won't be painful for me. The truth never hurts, but yes, it is hard to find. Especially Gary's truth. Maybe when he says "Ukrainian money laundering" he's talking about the $1M that an indicted Ukrainian associate of the president's personal lawyer received from a Russian bank in September?

Honestly - if there's dirt on Biden, or Kerry, or Schiff, or Nunes, or Santa Claus, or anyone else, I say let's see it. I have no use for criminals, regardless of party. I do require it to be true, though.

Carlos Ponce

No, the money laundering involved other people. Seek and ye shall find.

Bailey Jones

First Burisma, now Buristma - this is exciting!

Gary Miller

Bailey> Burisma is the correct spelling.

Casey Alan

I don’t get it. A Democrat uses the N-word and Republicans want her to step down for good. The president calls peoples names, insults women, and makes fun of the handicapped. But yet they are OK with that. Republicans want to blame Obama for trumps Russian fiasco. Even though Obama it hasn’t been the president for years. They are still crying about Hillary. Even though Hillary showed up for her hearings and didn’t ignore a subpoena or tell her people not to show up. They are OK with the president doing it. They’re worried about Biden’s son and his business dealings with the Ukraine even though the son is not running for president. Yet OK with the president calling a foreign country for assistance to help him win an election even though it’s against the constitution of the United States. It looks as though some people have their priorities in the wrong place.

Bailey Jones

" A Democrat uses the N-word and Republicans want her to step down for good." - Are you talking about the local fracas or something else? It's so hard to keep up these days.

Sharon Stratman

And "priorities in the wrong place" is the generous conclusion.

Carlos Ponce

Casey posts: "The president calls peoples names," True

"insults women," Just specific women or you of the opinion that women are "delicate" and should not be confronted? That's sexist.

" and makes fun of the handicapped." That is a LIE.But it's an often repeated Liberal talking point.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, you can try and say what Trump continues to say about women is Ok, but it is not. It is not OK for anyone to talk like this about anyone.

All the following are by Trump: These are just a few I had to choose from.

"You know, it really doesn’t matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of a--. But she’s got to be young and beautiful."

"You’re disgusting." Trump hurled this barb at a female lawyer, who, during a deposition involving Trump, asked for a medical break to pump breast milk for her 3-month-old daughter.

. He insulted Megyn Kelly — and, once again, pretty much all women. When talking to CNN’s Don Lemon, he said this about Kelly: "You could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her wherever."

He insulted Brande Roderick, a contestant on The Apprentice. "It must be a pretty picture," he said to her. "You dropping to your knees."

Trump said he didn’t change diapers because it’s the wife’s job. In fact, he said he wouldn’t marry a woman who expected this of him. "There’s a lot of women out there that demand that the husband act like the wife and you know there’s a lot of husbands that listen to that," Trump said.

Trump told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos,"Look at his wife, she was standing there. She had nothing to say. She probably, maybe she wasn’t allowed to have anything to say. You tell me." Ghazala Khan then spoke out in a powerful Washington Post op-ed saying she chose not to speak because she was too emotional.

Trump called Ruth Bader Ginsburg to resign after she criticized him in the press. He has called her an "incompetent judge" and said "her mind is shot."

Trump is heard objectifying a 10-year-old girl. After talking to a girl who is going up an escalator, Trump says, "I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?"

Trump his former White House aide, Omarosa Manigault Newman, "That dog,” after she was ousted from the administration.

Machado responded in September 2016 by confirming that Trump used to humiliate her for her appearance when she was young model and that it was likely he did the same to other women in the pageant and beyond.

"Just like what happened to me, it’s clear through the years that his actions and conduct have been repeated with other women through the decades," Machado said.

Jill Harth pageant promoter

Are you sleeping with her? Trump stared at a pageant promoter throughout a meeting and then asked her boyfriend and co-worker if she was sexually available. (Harth says Trump later sexually assaulted her; Trump claims Harth pursued him.)

Trump Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?

Trump asked the reigning Miss Universe about his daughter Ivanka, then 16

You mean the one with the [gesture to indicate breasts]

How Trump referred to a contestant he was deciding whether to fire on The Apprentice. "He didn't even know her name," producer Katherine Walker said.

Would you go out with Marcia Cross, or would you turn gay, Howard? Trump on The Howard Stern Show, rating the beauty of the actors on ABC's Desperate Housewives

I think Gloria would be very very impressed with [my pen--]. Gloria Allred

Bailey Jones

Who wouldn't want their son to grow up to be just like DJ Trump?

Carlos Ponce

"Who wouldn't want their son to grow up to be just like DJ Trump?" Have you seen the number of children who show up at Trump rallies dressed like him by their parents, not to mock but to honor according to interviews. Here's an example:

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/57fc3da38109ee82018b4d63-480/trump-child-impersonator.png

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/28/04/36A6DB6B00000578-3711116-image-a-2_1469677357550.jpg

Bailey Jones

Carlos - always making my point for me.

Carlos Ponce

Not always but what you posted was accurate this time.

Wayne Holt

In contrast, we have Hillary Clinton speaking of Muammar Gaddafi: " We came, we saw, he died." And a laugh (some described it as a cackle). This in reference to the person who was the sovereign leader of a country with the highest per capita income of any in Africa, who routinely established schools and free medical clinics for his people and was generally acknowledged to spread the wealth generated by his country's oil sales more widely than any other leader. He was sodomized with a bayonet before he died. How many on here objected to that? A lout or an apologist for foreign invasion of a sovereign nation we were not at war with and murder of the elected leader? Ummm...I'll take Lout for $40, Bob.

Carlos Ponce

" It is not OK for anyone to talk like this about anyone." Trump is described as a "counter puncher". Say something NASTY about him and he'll respond. And you respond in a like manner in these forums. But in your mind it is okay to say something NASTY about the President of the United States in the first place. [rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

What ever you think I said, pale in comparison with what comes from his mouth. . What have I said NASTY about Trump? Did I ever say Trump needs to get on his knees, or that his daughter’s hot.

Carlos, you are ok with what he says?

What did this mother do to Trump?" You’re disgusting." Trump hurled this barb at a female lawyer, who, during a deposition involving Trump, asked for a medical break to pump breast milk for her 3-month-old daughter."

Are you OK about what he said about a 10 year old? Trump is heard objectifying a 10-year-old girl. After talking to a girl who is going up an escalator, Trump says, "I am going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe it?" What had the 10 year-old done to him?

Is it Ok with you that he talked about his own Daughter like he did when she was 16?

"Trump Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right? Trump asked the reigning Miss Universe about his daughter Ivanka, then 16".

Most fathers would never talk about a 10 year old or his own like that, unless they are someone like Jeffrey Epstein. This type of behavior is not the norm.

You said "Trump is described as a "counter puncher" so anything he says is Ok with you? This is the way you what your President to act?

Carlos Ponce

"Whatever you think I said" - Jim must be getting forgetful.

Jim Forsythe

"Jim must be getting forgetful."

And what did I say that raises to the level of Trumps demeaning speech.

Would you talk about people the way he does?

Most jobs would have him visiting HR on a regular bases, as they would not allow that kind of behivor.

Could you have talked the way he does when you were teaching?

We have a President that demeans foreign heads of state by his name calling and such.

Is this how you want your President to represent the Unitted States of America?

Carlos Ponce

"And what did I say that raises to the level of Trumps demeaning speech."

Do you REALLY want to go there? Reminding you has its consequences.......

Jim Forsythe

DO you think Trump talking as he does benefits the United States of America? if so, how?

What did I say in the GDN that was to the level of Trumps?..

The few times that I said something that I thought that was out of bounds, I apologized for it.

The other part is that Trump is the President, and you and I are not.

If you or I say something that's bad, a lot less people lives are effected by it then if Trump lets loose with his stuff..

We have a President that demeans foreign heads of state by his name calling and such.

If Trump says the wrong thing or insults the wrong leader, a war can break out.

Would you talk about people the way he does?

Most jobs would have him visiting HR on a regular bases, as they would not allow that kind of behavior.

Could you have talked the way he does when you were teaching?

Is this how you want your President to represent the Unitted States of America?

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