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Carlos Ponce

"Back in 2016, they promised health care, immigration and tax reform for all Americans."

And in 2017 Democrats blocked the Republican health care bill with help from a RINO (McCain).

And in 2018 The Immigration Reform bill HR 6136 proposed by Rep. Goodlatte, Bob [R-VA-6] also failed.

BUT tax reform passed!

"There were promises of jobs that paid more than minimum wage." George forgets that prior to the pandemic, take home pay went UP.

"The very rich received a good tax package, but middle classes were neglected."

Have to call BS on that one, George!

"I haven't seen one Republican congressman stand up for the American worker." FALSE! Prior to the pandemic, unemployment reached record lows across the board for Blacks, whites, Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, women., etc. But since then, #WhiteHouseSquatter has costs has cost job losses through his executive orders concerning the Keystone Pipeline and Border Barrier Construction. We need to remember this when the 2022 elections come around.

Craig Mason

They blocked the repeal of Obama care. The Republicans had three more years to come up with a plan and bring it to the house and senate. In 2017 the republicans had the house, the senate and the white house . All they had to do was bring the plan forward and have the new plan supersede Obama care. They never did.

Gary Miller

George>It seems you live in a different country than most of us. Every citizen taxpayer got a tax cut. A higher amount percentage wise for middle income. More unemployed got jobs than in any other time in America. Republicans failed to repeal "Obama care" because 7 senate RINOs voted with Democrats. Immigration policies were improved and a border wall was being built. How you could be so blind about what was going on in the US befuddles me.

Gary Miller

Democrats have another problem they don't know what to do about. Mexican Americans are voting in greater numbers than ever before. Even worse they are teaching Latin immigrants to vote for Republicans. Telling Latin immigrants Democrat want them, without education, to work for minimal wages and populate a permanent underclass in inner city ghetos. In many ways worse than where they came from. Latins, immigrant or citizen, are smarter than Democrats think.

Thomas Carpenter

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/09/difference-between-trump-tax-cuts-biden-relief-bill-one-chart/ Never let facts get in the way of dogma.

Carlos Ponce

And Thomas Carpenter picks a DOGMATIC source. [rolleyes]

WAPO occasionally tells the truth- not in this article.

When reality sets in, tell us if you ACTUALLY got more and keep more. Be truthful.

Brian Tamney

that sure waas a bunch of pretty colors and numbers, too bad they don't actually mean anything! comparing apples and oranges, and failing to take into account all the waste in dementia Joes plan we will all be paying for till we die.

Carlos Ponce

WAPO's source is Howard Gleckmann who ignores the bailouts of Blue states and cities which is a HUGE part of this bill. And whom do these bailouts benefit???? The Filthy rich politicians. Gleckmann is clever in his obfuscation.

Bailey Jones

Helping lower-income people instead of billionaires and corporations? Sounds like communism to me!

Actually, this will be a huge boost to both corporations and the billionaires who own them - because most of this money will be spent on goods and services. Expect an increase in employment as businesses hire to try to keep up with demand. More jobs means even more spending on goods and services and even more demand. It's like priming a pump.

BTW - this graph doesn't come from WAPO - it comes from the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan joint venture of the Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution that aims to provide independent analyses of current and longer-term tax issues and to communicate its analyses to the public and to policymakers. They present facts using math - two concepts that exceed the cranial capacity of some commenters here.

Carlos Ponce

"Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan...."

Liberals are SO GULLIBLE!

Look at who is in the Urban Brookings Tax Institute, Bailey.

Form an institute proclaimed "non-partisan" then flood the group with uber-Liberal ideology and writers who obfuscate their true intent. But Bailey believes.

From the Cato Institute: "To be “nonpartisan” does not mean non-ideological, unbiased or even competent. It simply means following a few rules so the IRS will allow the organization to receive tax-deductible contributions."

"How liberal is Brookings? Ask Discover the Networks:

Brookings has been involved with a variety of internationalist and state-sponsored programs, including the Global Governance Initiative, which aspires to facilitate the establishment of a U.N.-dominated world government, based in part on economic and Third World considerations. Brookings Fellows have also called for additional global collaboration on trade and banking; the expansion of the Kyoto Protocol; and nationalized health insurance for children. Nine Brookings economists signed a petition opposing President Bush’s tax cuts in 2003. The Brookings Institution’s President since 2002 has been Strobe Talbott, who served as President Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State. The Board of Trustees features Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of John Kerry; Zoe Baird, failed Clinton appointee for Attorney General."

But because they use the term, "non-partisan", Bailey Jones brays his approval.

Not convinced? FOLLOW THE MONEY. Chief contributors include Bill and Melinda Gates. Funding also from Huawei - a Chinese tech company.

Robert Braeking

Yeah, George. Like Biden is for the middle class. That is why the border is wide open and the Keystone pipeline was cancelled. I'm calling BS. The great Teacher talked about you stiff-necked people. "Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand." Matthew 13:13

Don Schlessinger

Let's see, Biden cancelled 11,000 jobs his first day in office. George read what information you can find on the PRO Act being proposed by your Socialist leaders. Seems it has the possibility of cancelling 57 million jobs.

Thomas Carpenter

Cadet Bonespurs cancelled millions of jobs and tanked the economy.

Carlos Ponce

Thomas Carpenter, what you post is fictitious. No such person as Captain Bonespurs. You are making everything up.

Jim Forsythe

Captain Bone Spurs Diagnosis Was Favor From Friend of Fred Trump

President Donald Trump avoided military service in Vietnam because a Queens doctor did a “favor” for his father and diagnosed 22-year-old Donald with bone spurs in his heels.

The doctor, Larry Braunstein, died in 2007, but his daughters recently told The New York Times that their father frequently recalled coming to the aid of the Trump family during the Vietnam War in the late 1960s.

“I know it was a favor,” said Elysa Braunstein along with her sister, Sharon Kessel, in a report published on Wednesday. The two said that their father’s account implied that Trump did not suffer from the foot ailment that kept him out of the war.

Don Schlessinger

Trump is one of millions that found a convenient reason to avoid active military duty. I wonder how many critics reading here fathers or grandfathers escaped the draft for false reasons?

Carlos Ponce

That's hearsay, Jim Forsythe, NO PROOF. A doctor would violate patient -doctor confidentiality if he or she disclosed medical conditions even to his or her own family members. I rate your claim NOT CREDIBLE.

Carlos Ponce

By the way, Jim, one of the Forsythe boys I taught tried to reveal things about his father but I stopped him since the revelation had nothing to do with mathematics. So whatever it was.... was never unveiled.

Jim Forsythe

Some act as they did not know who Captain Bone Spurs is, so I provided text why Trump is called, Captain Bone Spurs

Michael Cohen congressional hearing, Trump's ex-personal attorney told the House the president once bragged about avoiding Vietnam. "He told me not to answer the specific questions by reporters but rather offer simply the fact that he received a medical deferment. He finished the conversation with the following comment: 'You think I'm stupid? I wasn't going to Vietnam'."

Carlos Ponce

Until someone posted it on these forums I never heard of it. Must be a Liberal thing. But to think someone would be callous enough to make fun of someone else's physical infirmity is beyond me. But there are stupid people out there who would do that.

And again with hearsay gossip this time from Cohen. Zero credibility.

Jim Forsythe

Trump’s former fixer Michael Cohen to meet again with Manhattan DA in Trump probe

Carlos Ponce

Cohen will not sing, he will compose to get out of the trouble he's in.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Ponce! Allow me to help out with the ultra-hypocrisy of the LEFT, if you will:

He who is locked in a closet in the Oval Office, doing his daily crossword puzzles, while Kamala fronts for him ..applied for and recrived FIVE deferrments to avoid the Vietnam War! In April of 1968 he came up with a scheme at age 25 to keep him out because of "Adolescent Asthma" he supposedly had at 12 or 13 years of age! Can you believe that? See how the LEFT, will make-up stuff to stir up emotions for favor & votes? ( Cadet Bonespurs ). They are good at it too! These are the same methods and mind manipulations they use to cultivate favorable attitude of minorities! They make up stuff, and tell half-truthes with a straight face! They should be trying to think of ways to stop Red China from invading Tiwain before Trump or Ted Cruz takes Office in 2024!

Charles Douglas

Mr. Schlessinger you are telling 150% truth and I agree with you 151%. Some of the same people on this forum who are lambasting, and vilifying Trump for not serving this great country, DID NOT DO SO themselves,..which is hypocrisy of the highest order!!!! Hey, but that is what Radical Liberals do! I think it is left up to individuals if they wants to serve or not, and they should not be BEAT across their heads because they did not! Ahhh but Liberals,.....they will find something when there is nothing to criticize a concervative with! Did JOE CHINA go serve? ........H [censored] .Naw he did not serve, and neither did Clinton or OBAMA! SO WHAT? They stayed home, and smoked!!!!!! Yessss they were SMOKING back here Mr. HARDEE!, ...Mr. MILLER, Mr. Nastke, but the LEFT wants to tar & feather Trump Diesel because he did not serve! Their hypocrisy knows no bounds!

Don Schlessinger

[thumbup]

Craig Mason

Yes and made it worse after he got it and claimed it was nothing. It had nothing to do with the fact that he got all kinds of expensive experimental treatments. Then the former prez and his wife got the vaccine in secret, like a couple of spineless cowards. Coward is too kind of a word, but they won’t print what I really think of them.

Carlos Ponce

They were not cowards, Craig. If they received their vaccines in a public you know you would be chastising them for that. Haters gonna hate.

Craig Mason

No I would have lauded them for promoting vaccination.

Gary Miller

Republicans (AKA conservatives) are the middle class. They grow the middle class by cutting taxes on employers so they can reduce the lower class by hiring more of them. A new employee from the lower class is a new middle class (AKA Republican). The greatest benefit of tax cuts for employers go to the lower income who get jobs.

Jarvis Buckley

Most Republicans are middle class folks.

Charles Douglas

We are Middle Class, because Republicans tends to be those who take sef-responsibility seriously enough to rise up in proclamations & demonstrations ...and prepare for success along with desired outcomes in their lives instead of holding palms up for government rice & cheese! The government is not our daddy, ...GOD is:

"Blessed is the man who trusted in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is............... Jeremiah 17:7.

"... Let the LORD be magnified, which hath PLEASURE in the prosperity of his servant. Psalm 35:27.

" But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully." II Corinthians 9: 6.

God, his word, & his promises kept, helped me developed the eyesight of eagles instead of remaining blind like a prairie-chicken ...pecking around on the ground on the LEFT'S Plantation waiting on a hand-out of free stuff, in exchange for my vote and political support! "GET OFF MY LAWN!"

[beam]

Charles Douglas

Let me take time right now to give a shout-out to THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND, also THE EX. & Future POTUS Donald J TRUMP!!!!!!

Thomas Carpenter

If I make everything up, then consider me one of your oracles Mr. Ponce because they've consistently lied to you. Also, Cadet Bonespurs gets mocked not for dodging the draft, half the country did that, but for labeling Mr. Douglas and others like him a "loser" and a "sucker" because they did serve. As long as you have the albatross around your neck of welching on your bet, nobody places much credence in what you have to say. Hide behind the flag and the Bible like the rest of the white supremacists and enjoy watching the Biden administration govern. It's another great day for America!

Carlos Ponce

"Early and often did the LORD, the God of their fathers,

send his messengers to them,

for he had compassion on his people and his dwelling place.

But they mocked the messengers of God,

despised his warnings, and scoffed at his prophets,

until the anger of the LORD against his people was so inflamed

that there was no remedy."

Thomas Carpenter

James 2:4 Have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

Carlos Ponce

Sounds like the Democrat Party.

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