The anti-science agenda of Grand Old Party leadership is a threat to our state. Their pandering to disinformation and unproven theories for political gain, combined with fueling anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers in the name of personal freedom, undermines the fight to contain COVID-19.

Texas has the highest rates of COVID-19 since the pandemic began. Executive orders against mask mandates in the name of personal freedom deny communities and school districts the freedom to enact mask mandates appropriate to local need.

These leaders have done little to address vaccine hesitancy resulting from misinformation at a time when the unvaccinated are wearing out health care workers and filling intensive care units so that those with urgent needs such as heart attacks or cancer are denied care.

The anti-science agenda will not help Texas address the challenge of climate change. Like COVID-19, the solution to climate change must include scientific knowhow and finding a balance between individual self-interest and the greater good.

It's ironic that GOP leaders tout Texas leadership in spaceflight at the same time they discredit science. Is it from ignorance or hypocrisy that they fail to acknowledge it's the same fundamental science that puts a man on the moon and contains COVID-19?

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Carlos Ponce

Another Liberal who confuses real science with Leftist propaganda.

Gary Miller

A little real science! Hospitals are reporting the make up of patients. Most are un vaxed but over 20 % are fully vaxed Called break out infections. Missing are patients who were infected and recovered. Several researchers report natural immunity is between 6 and 20 times better than vaccines. Why is Biden insisting recovered people be vaxed? Government ordered vaccines and want to pay for them?

Paula Flinn

Maybe Biden wants recovered people vaccinated because they can get CoVid again. This time they might get the deadly Delta Variant. President Trump and the former First Lady both recovered from CoVid and were vaccinated. The immunity or antibodies (apparently) doesn’t last very long. It’s safer to be vaccinated. Don’t forget to get your flu shot, too.

Carlos Ponce

Examples of propaganda:

"27 scientists penned a letter on March 7, 2020 published in The Lancet that claimed the Wuhan coronavirus did not originate in a Wuhan laboratory."

And the Liberals accepted this as truth - as SCIENCE!

In truth, 26 of these scientists have links to Chinese researchers or their colleagues or benefactors at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), China’s only known level-four biosafety lab. Biased?

Dr. Anthony Fauci lied to Congress about NIH funding that lab. But one propagandist, Politifact, states "Although the NIH did fund a project at the Wuhan lab, there’s no proof that the coronavirus was bioengineered." They ignore that sequences found the virus are not found in nature but only in the lab.

Jim Forsythe

It will take many years to determine the origin of COVID-19. Anyone that says that they know, 100% for sure, where it came from, is not being truthful. If someone says they do, when did they go to China and other places, and do the research necessary to have a 100% conclusive outcome? Until the investigation is concluded, everyone is just guessing, with few facts.

Finding the origins of outbreaks takes time. For example, it took 14 years for researchers to figure out the most likely origin of the SARS virus outbreak.

We don’t know yet exactly where COVID-19 came from. Right now, experts feel that it most likely jumped from animals to humans naturally, but the possibility of a lab leak has not been ruled out. We don’t have all of the evidence we need to make a definite conclusion.

SARS-CoV-2 has been reported in mink on farms in multiple countries. One wild and one escaped mink found near affected farms in Utah were found to be infected with SARS-CoV-2.

Recent experimental research shows that many mammals, including cats, dogs, bank voles, ferrets, fruit bats, hamsters, mink, pigs, rabbits, racoon dogs, tree shrews, and white-tailed deer can be infected with the virus.

Carlos Ponce

"It will take many years to determine the origin of COVID-19." With all the roadblocks set up by China and statements from Dr. Li-Meng Yan it isn't hard to figure out, Jim. [rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

About same amount of time will be required for Covid19. If you disagree, why would it be faster this time?

Speculation is not fact.

Carlos Ponce

Allow me to amend my post:

With all the roadblocks set up by China and statements from Dr. Li-Meng Yan it isn't hard to figure out - if you have any brains.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Ponce> Satan & China has a lot of influence in America to cover for them! They are everywhere!

Gary Miller

Jim> Can be infected but not observed in nature? Sounds like Fauci.

Gary Miller

Jim> A correction? Researchers haven't found any animal source of the lab produced or any varient. If animals don't carry it which animal passed it to humans?

Emilio Nicolas

Yet another deflection from the op-ed. Seems everything is an open-ended excuse for expousing nonsense. It's notable that no matter how this matter is politicized and no matter what attempts to intellectualize a position against using simple common sense on vaccinations and masks some always come down to the same conclusions as the lowest IQs on both the left and right when it comes to trying to end the pandemic.

Bailey Jones

[thumbup] Thanks for this letter. And thanks to Carlos for proving the validity of your position. The utter inability of some Texans to comprehend basic science and math continually astounds me. It's what brings me back here week after week - just to be amazed at the lack of critical thinking.

Ted Gillis

Don't worry Susan. Carlos is from the party that loves to "investigate the investigator". I they find one random thread were an individual had attended liberal event or supported a democratic candidate, then of course the accusation is biased and should be dismissed.

Carlos Ponce

Ted and Bailey, two who gave up critical thinking to be controlled by Leftist propaganda.

Paula Flinn

I don’t see anyone “controlled.” I see people hearing and listening to different facts and positions, and making up their own minds about getting vaccinated or not.

I, personally, cannot abide the Fox News talking commentators disputing the latest scientific evidence that the CoVid vaccinations & boosters increase immunity and save lives. Their commentary is causing people to doubt the science, to reject getting vaccinated, some to get very sick with CoVid, and some to die. The hospitals are full of people who, mostly, are/were anti-vaxxers. Someone should be able to stop the false and misleading information put out by the talking heads at Fox News. They are not doctors, and they are doing so much harm.

Bailey Jones

[thumbup] Yes, Paula. They're exploiting the anti-science sentiments among some conservatives in an attempt to split the nation into pro- and anti-vaxxers. It's good for their ratings. Also good for political fundraising.

Carlos Ponce

The propaganda spewed by Liberals is that Conservatives will not take the jab. While some will not the demarcation does not lie with political ideology.

"Sorry, Liberal Media, Kaiser Poll Shows It's Not Republicans Who Are COVID Vaccine Resisters"

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/07/19/another-media-narrative-on-covid-vaccine-hesitancy-has-been-torched-n2592726

But the truth will not stop Craig Mason from spreading misinformation. Liberals are known for that.[whistling]

Carlos Ponce

Paula posts, 'I don’t see anyone 'controlled.' ” Look in the mirror.

Craig Mason

Yes Paula and the sad part is that all of the on air talent at Fox News are vaccinated. The daily news ran a great article a couple of days ago citing our own UTMB. The article talks about vaccine antibodies and the boost from a third shot. These are the kind of news stories with actual researchers and doctors being quoted, that the cable news groups should be promoting.

Gary Miller

Craig> Fact is some of the "FOX on air staff" have caught Covid after being fully Vaxed. None have died.

Gary Miller

Paula> News talking commentators, MSM of course parrot the Biden word. And you of course.

Carlos Ponce

Paula posts, "misleading information put out by the talking heads at Fox News" Can you cite misinformation from "talking heads at FOX"?

Bailey Jones

Oh, Carlos - you're so laughably (and consistently) stupid. It makes me [lol]. That's why I call you Carlols. Maybe I should use Car[lol]s from now on.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, resorting to name calling shows you offer no valid argument.

Jim Forsythe

if you have any brains.

Bailey Jones

Oh, Car[lol]s, your stupidity has no bearing on the validity of my arguments. If you were smarter you'd know that.

Jim Forsythe

You are right Bailey, he provides $1,000's of laughs.

Bailey Jones

[lol]

Charles Douglas

You know ...the personal excoriating of a poster by name on this forum is becoming more prevalent than ever before since the last Administration came to power. Parties, Organizations, Leaders and members of Parties, and Orgainizations nationally & statewide are fine with me, they should be fair game, ..& I engage in that practice all the time, but engaging in what I am witnessing being said about Mr. Ponce, because he is one of the best, and most thorough debaters and fact speakers of all time on this forum is totally distasteful, disgraceful, and a lack of class in my most humble opinion!

We are all Americans seeking to maximize & enjoy our freedoms in this nation to speak up for what we believe in. It has not been a problem until here recently in a national way that disagreeing with the wrong people or party can get you personally lambasted, excoriated, vilified, doxed, censored, kicked off of Big Tech, Big Media, even fired from your jobs, or cause the loss of business contracts for just making your views on political issues known publicly!

I would imagine there are tons of Veterans, and Patriotic Americans that gave their lives for those freedoms, which many are stepping on and discounting now, who are turning over in their graves at the lack of respect shown to the sacrifices they made for this nation, a beacon of hope, and light on a hill to the world!. I hope this vile practice cease and desist! You will note that this all started off very playfully and innocent, but it has in my opinion grown to be very venomous, & vile. I hope we can get back to having fun, evaluating the jobs of those who are public servants who should be open to harsh criticism, deserved or not! I fail to see where Mr. Ponce or anyone else who posts on this forum deserves the scathing criticism and name calling I see happening here now!! [wink][wink]

Emilio Nicolas

You know ... you really should direct your comments to Carlos. He is the poster child of insults directed personally to anyone that disagrees with his point of view. You know that. Yes, you know that well. It seems that hypocrisy and fanaticism passes for intellect and demands respect from the same group that tends to monopolize these pages. Ask yourself how many times he has opined on the subject of the opinion piece vs. changing the topic to some conspiracy theory. As for vaccines and masks, it's not really an argument anymore. Rather than focus on the origins of the virus ... focus on the damn solutions! Let's stop this constant deflection and defense of deflection and get this pandemic behind us. There will be plenty of time to argue the origins. Let's just get the remaining unvaccinated to drag their little knuckles to the nearest Walgreens and get the damn shot rather than telling us about THEIR freedom to infect the rest of us while ignoring OUR FREEDOM to keep them out of our lungs. Then, perhaps, they can join the rest of civil society.

Ed Buckner

[thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." [beam]

Virginia Stone

Carlos, you claim God choose you as his fruit inspector (Mathew 7: 16) and God gave you the right to judge a person's works, you Carlos are the self-proclaimed fruit inspector of the GDN commentaries, ready to condemn any and all persons who don't agree with you, I don't care if you are willfully ignorant, stupid or just so full of your own self-rightous fruit-picking bologna you are blinded by your own paranoid ideation. Get over yourself Carlos, inspect your own fruit.

Carlos Ponce

I'm on a mission from GOD.

Gary Scoggin

The problem is, Carlos, that you actually believe that. Try some humility for a change. Arrogance serves neither you nor God well.

Ed Buckner

Has anyone else noticed that Carlos Ponce is just about to burst with pride--over just how humble he is?

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin posts, "The problem is, Carlos, that you actually believe that." If you read your Bible you would know that all believers are given the great commission. All Christians should feel they are on a mission for God. You don't?

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos Ponce is just about to burst with pride" In reality - no.

Gary Scoggin

I am indeed on a mission. But mine is much less self centered and does not involve me as the repository of all wisdom and possessor of the one and only correct pathway to heaven. See, even though I am on a mission for Christ, I don’t have all the answers and I don’t pretend I do.

Carlos, you give the impression that you think you know things with great certainty even when there is evidence to the contrary. But in your arrogance you can’t admit your mistakes. As I said earlier, that trait serves neither you nor God well.

Carlos Ponce

Having a gift of the Spirit is not being arrogant.

"There are different kinds of spiritual gifts but the same Spirit; there are different forms of service but the same Lord; there are different workings but the same God who produces all of them in everyone.

To each individual the manifestation of the Spirit is given for some benefit.

To one is given through the Spirit the expression of wisdom; to another the expression of knowledge according to the same Spirit;

to another faith by the same Spirit; to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit;

to another mighty deeds; to another prophecy; to another discernment of spirits; to another varieties of tongues; to another interpretation of tongues.e

But one and the same Spirit produces all of these, distributing them individually to each person as he wishes."

Ed Buckner

Ms. Steinberg, thanks for a well argued letter. And Mr. Jones, I agree with you except for calling Mr. Ponce "stupid." I see no evidence that he lacks intelligence. It is pretty clear that he is misinformed and in fact willfully ignorant, but not stupid.

Emilio Nicolas

If only you were righteous Carlos!

Carlos Ponce

Yes, no brag, just fact.

Bailey Jones

Ed, there was a time when I held the same opinion. It's the one opinion of mine that Carlos has managed to change.

Ed Buckner

Proverbs 16:18 (if only Carlos Ponce were familiar with this).

Carlos Ponce

That's okay, Ed Buckner. God is waiting for your return. You recalling scripture is a good sign. [beam]

There is no pride nor haughtiness in my statement. No brag... just fact. You wouldn't want me to LIE, would you?

Ed Buckner

OK, Mr. Ponce, try this: "Mr. Smith declares that he is brilliant, well educated, thoughtful, kind, and knowledgeable--more so than anyone else. And he explains that he's not bragging, just stating facts." Without knowing anything at all about Mr. Smith's actual qualities, can you detect a whiff of pridefulness or haughtiness? (I didn't recall scripture--I had to look it up. Luckily I have access to Bible Gateway online and I have dozens of Bibles in my library. Unlike some prideful folks, I can actually read these (the ones in English at least) and not merely parrot them.)

Carlos Ponce

"Recalling" is tantamount to remembering that such a scripture exists. Good for you!

Ed Buckner

Mr. Ponce: "The propaganda spewed by Liberals is that Conservatives will not take the jab." Nonsense--disingenuous if not simply dishonest. Vaccine resistance is present across many segments of the population and for differing reasons. What allegedly "conservative" leaders oppose in the name of "freedom" is requiring vaccination. It would be the same logic if they required people to be allowed to drive drunk.

Emilio Nicolas

This is far too nuanced for Carlos's narrow minded "us vs. them" mentality. He will simply deny that it is Republican governors and followers that refuse to let their states take meaningful action of any kind ... any kind ... to deal with the spread of Covid. Yes, there are democrats and liberals and those that are non-political that refuse to take the vaccine ... but they aren't Governors. Far too nuanced for one with blinders and hate.

Carlos Ponce

"What allegedly 'conservative' leaders oppose in the name of "freedom" is requiring vaccination."

Can you name one Conservative leader, Ed Buckner? Conservative leaders I know and have heard ask that you check with your health care provider. And naming a Conservative media personality is not the same as a Conservative leader,

Carlos Ponce

Nonsense from Emilio Nicolas.

Emilio Nicolas

Carlos, again you fail to note the difference: “mandate”, i.e. employer, businesses being allowed to run as they wish to protect others and “check with your doctor”.

Emilio Nicolas

Carlos, you are hardly anyone to judge “nonsense”.

Carlos Ponce

Since none of what you post is truthful, it is "nonsense".

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, again you fail to note the difference: “mandate”, i.e. employer, businesses being allowed to run as they wish to protect others and 'check with your doctor' ”. And what does this have to do with ANYTHING I posted? I merely asked for an example of a Conservative Leader. You read too much into my request. Looks like you "jumped the shark" on this one, Emilio Nicholas.

Ed Buckner

I would have thought that a dedicated right-winger like Carlos Ponce would have heard of Abbott and Desantis, but I guess not. Weird. https://www.mediaite.com/news/brian-williams-rips-desantis-and-abbott-for-deadly-mismanagement-and-ghoulish-denialism-during-a-pandemic/

Carlos Ponce

Brian Williams? Is this a joke? He certainly is!

Ed Buckner

This is not a joke, funny or otherwise--it shows obstinate arrogance for Carlos Ponce to straight up ignore a point and attack the news source. Brian Williams is hardly the only one pointing out that leaders like Govs. Abbott and DeSantis are issuing declarations forbidding local authorities from issuing appropriate public health orders. If Abbott and DeSantis declared that drunk driving was a right and local authorities could say that it's bad, but are prohibited from making drunk driving illegal. I'm beginning to think Bailey Jones is right about Ponce.

Carlos Ponce

Using Brian Williams as a source is neither intellectual nor scholarly. Use a reliable source not one whose "career" is filled with fabricated "news".

Ed Buckner

Using the fact that one report of something--out of hundreds--is by someone who lost credibility over a single incident and ignoring the actual facts is profoundly dishonorable and dishonest. It's not Brian Williams whose credibility is utterly lost, it's that of Mr. Ponce.

Ed Buckner

Here's one more chance, Mr. Ponce, one where I predict that you will cement your reputation as one unwilling to argue honestly: I assert that Governors Abbott of Texas and DeSantis of Florida have attempted to prevent local authorities in their respective states from issuing directives to protect public health. True or false?

Carlos Ponce

You offer a false premise, Ed Buckner. You offer a false dichotomy. No honest debate can start with a false premise.

Since you are neither a Texan (any more) nor a Floridian you have no say in the matters pertinent to those states. As a TEXAN, I know Governor Abbot is acting within the constitution and laws of the state of Texas.

Ed Buckner

As expected and predicted, Mr. Ponce fails completely to demonstrate logical ability, thinking (apparently) that irrelevant information like what state I reside in will save him from answering a straightforward question. Mr. Bailey Jones may be correct or perhaps complete dishonesty rather than stupidity is the case. Either way, I admit I'm wasting my time with a fake debater, fake conservative, and apparently even a fake Christian. (I'll repeat this every time Mr. Ponce refuses to answer a direct, relevant, question with a direct answer.)

Carlos Ponce

You offer a false premise, Ed Buckner. You offer a false dichotomy. No honest debate can start with a false premise.

And to be judged as a "fake Conservative' and a "fake Christian" by a Liberal Atheist is a great honor.

Ed Buckner

Here's one more chance, Mr. Ponce, one where I predict that you will cement your reputation as one unwilling to argue honestly: I assert that Governors Abbott of Texas and DeSantis of Florida have attempted to prevent local authorities in their respective states from issuing directives to protect public health. True or false?

Carlos Ponce

You offer a false premise, Ed Buckner. You offer a false dichotomy. No honest debate can start with a false premise.

And to be judged as a "fake Conservative' and a "fake Christian" by a Liberal Atheist is a great honor. It shows your FEAR!

Ed Buckner

As expected and predicted, Mr. Ponce fails completely to demonstrate logical ability, thinking (apparently) that irrelevant information like what state I reside in will save him from answering a straightforward question. Mr. Bailey Jones may be correct or perhaps complete dishonesty rather than stupidity is the case. Either way, I admit I'm wasting my time with a fake debater, fake conservative, and apparently even a fake Christian. (I'll repeat this every time Mr. Ponce refuses to answer a direct, relevant, question with a direct answer.)

Carlos Ponce

You offer a false premise, Ed Buckner. You offer a false dichotomy. No honest debate can start with a false premise.

And to be judged as a "fake Conservative' and a "fake Christian" by a Liberal Atheist is a great honor. It shows your FEAR!

Ed Buckner

As expected and predicted, Mr. Ponce fails completely to demonstrate logical ability, thinking (apparently) that irrelevant information like what state I reside in will save him from answering a straightforward question. Mr. Bailey Jones may be correct or perhaps complete dishonesty rather than stupidity is the case. Either way, I admit I'm wasting my time with a fake debater, fake conservative, and apparently even a fake Christian. (I'll repeat this every time Mr. Ponce refuses to answer a direct, relevant, question with a direct answer.)

Virginia Stone

Thank you Susan, for your letter it angers me to no end that when I needed to go to hospital recently I avoided it like the plague because even though I am fully vacinated I feared being infected, fortunately I was able to resolve my health issue at home.

Charles Douglas

"Texas has the highest rates of COVID-19 since the pandemic began."...The Author.

Okay, lets say Texas has the highest rate of COVID. Would having hundred, and hundreds of thousands of illegals from around the world bumbbardimg our Southern Border, coming in with little to no resistance, with some already sick with the China Virus, many NOT wearing masks and MOST NOT VACCINATED have something to do with that?

While we are do-dadding around the politics of it, WHY are the Illegals being allowed to crash our borders anyway? Silly me, I thought we had laws against such things? Here is another question many African-Americans who supports the Radical LEFT should be asking, WHY IS THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION FIXING TO START SENDING THE BLACK OR AFRICANS ILLEGALS BACK HOME & NOT THE OTHERS? ANYONE? Take your time with this, because I want all the BLACK, or African-American Liberal surrogates to focus in on why a President who boldly proclaimed to a Black man during his campaign, " If you don't vote for me YOU AINT BLACK" ...and now after standing up publicly telling the world if they wanted a better life, they should come to America.....NOW HE WANTS TO START FLYING BLACK ILLEGALS BACK TO WHERE THEY COME FROM! Oh ...take your time ...I'll wait.................

PS. I have said from the beginning we are being lead by a caniving self consumed RACIST, and this is the.cherry on top of all the other blatant evidence out there for all to see. Self consumed....emmmmm, I would wager FRANCE our NATO FRIEND who recalled their Ambassador home this week from DC will agree with me on that. Lolo.

Emilio Nicolas

Charles Douglas: More reason to insist on vaccines and masks!

Charles Douglas

Yeah sure ya right,...now that all the BLACK ILLEGALS are starting to crossover, it is now time to bring out more border guards on horses to drive them back into the river leading back to Mexico, or to herd'em up like they did back in SLAVERY TIME, and fly them back where they came from too,...I would imagine, since that is now what Joe, and his supporters are doing! Lolo. He was not doing all this before the BLACK ILLEGAL numbers increased! I understand....gotta use Plan Parenthood, and Ghetto Cities, with high murder rates to keep the numbers of "Them Folks" manageable right? I understand,...say no more!!Lolo Now ...all this should enlighten other African-Americans, as to where they truly stand with RADICALS, so they can stop giving their voting power away! This should serve as a lesson to people of color in general, because they are treating Cubans the same way. Joe did not even try to help them when they were dying in the streets a few weeks ago for their rights! I have been waiting all day for a straight man to come along so I could get this message out to the people. So thank You! Lolo.

Thomas Carpenter

Slap, slap, slap. Oh humble fascist, the chosen one, have you paid your bet to Bailey? What a great example for all of us: a servant of god flagrantly lying about the election results and flatly refusing to honor his word. You're as funny as Miller using a ghost writer to clarify his jumbled thoughts.

Carlos Ponce

Hang in there, Thomas Carpenter. Bailey will pay his debt.

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