In response to the guest column by the Rev. James E. Daniels ("Trying to move forward in a backward America," The Daily News, June 4): Well I guess the time is here again to spew divisive and racially charged words again. There is no basis for the statement made by Daniels declaring that "making America great again" is wanting to turn back the clock to slavery days. His is a racist rant and only leads to more distrust and strife among the races in Texas.

Starting the column talking about loss of jobs overseas is normal, then to go into total meltdown with baseless language is not going to help anyone. It is time to do the right thing, call out all that incite hate, fear by association of past atrocities, those who hide behind masks, real and social.

God only sees people, not color. We need to work together to move forward, bringing up things that are certainly not going to happen again accomplish nothing. We have seen how fast life can change, live it to the fullest with honor and faith.

Gaylon Ray

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Emile Pope

When the writer ignores the vile, disgusting, racist, and utterly contemptible the things Trump says and does, it’s hard to take anything written by them seriously.

Carlos Ponce

Emile, can you give at least one "vile, disgusting, racist, and utterly contemptible" thing Trump has said and done? The only proven thing I see is what he said during an open mike conversation with Billy Bush. But I've heard that "locker room talk" since I was in grade school. If you've never heard such a conversation consider yourself blessed. But that was not "racist".

Kimberley Jones Yancy

Carlos please visit the site https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

To view Trump’s definitive list of racist words. It’s totally unprofessional, divisive, demonic, and unbecoming of a sitting American President. Others are emboldened by his words and thinks it’s acceptable to be an out and proud racist. These are exciting and yet dangerous, scary times for people of color As a child of integration, I have never in my lifetime witnessed such horrible language and disdain. And as having the lowest unemployment among African Americans largely due to initiatives started in 2012 that Thank God Trump has not yet dismantled. Why doesn’t he use that to bring us together? Why instead of calling NFL players SOB’s say let’s take a real good look at police brutality. Perhaps it’s lack of training or low police officer wages in our cities. Trump can serve as a Master deciever of distractions on things he strikes as not important. As a business woman, I believe his party is saying to Trump, “Sit down, shut up! And let’s enjoy the economic ride, the new deregulations and let’s help the American people make some $$.” I totally agree. We are stronger together. It is the only way to make America great again.

Carlos Ponce

From the website Kimberly Jones Yancy recommends.
"Trump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government."
Donald Trump's FATHER had the apartments built and named son Donald as the president of the company when the lawsuit was filed. Fred Trump had several apartment buildings, several of which were predominantly occupied by African-Americans. The building in question was predominantly occupied by Jewish Americans. Result of the lawsuit? Fine? No. Jail or prison? No.Fred Trump was told to take out an ad in the paper stating that the Trump company does not discriminate. CASE CLOSED.

Carlos Ponce

Also from the website Kimberly Jones Yancy recommends:
"In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park"
A bit of a STRETCH there since in the ad, Donald Trump NEVER reveals the rapists' names, ethic origin or race, only that the death penalty be used for those who commit such a heinous crime. The attacker was later confirmed as Matias Reyes.

Carlos Ponce

Also from Kimberly Jones Yancy's recommended article:
"He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
Taking things out of context. What exactly DID Donald Trump say?
"When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
All of which is true. I suppose the author of this opinion piece pictures all Mexican illegals with halos on. Trump says some are "good people".
Do some bring drugs? Yes.
Are some rapists? Yes, although some take up raping when they cross the border.
Do some bring crime? Yes, just in Texas, " Texas DPS says that some 245,000 'criminal aliens' booked into Texas jails over 81 recent months had in their lifetimes accumulated 291,000-plus convictions with nearly 7 in 10 of the convictions tied to 193,000 individuals identified as living in the country without legal permission at their latest arrest."
Are some good people? Some I suppose are good people, Trump said. But this is often left out of the anti-Trump diatribe.
You may not like what Trump said but it's all true. Not racist since Mexico is a country composed of people with Black, white, Asian and Native American origin. Did he demean ALL Mexicans? No. Only those who come here illegally and bring their criminal tendencies with them.

Carlos Ponce

Also from the website Kimberly Jones Yancy recommends:
"In December 2015, Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time."
Another bit of a stretch here, Kimberly. What did Trump say?
“Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.”
Kimberly, question an opinion written in the New York Times. As you see it is filled with hyperbole and falsehoods. This article does not prove the allegation that Donald Trump is a racist. It does show that the authors will print anything misleading to disparage the President.

John Meza

These are quotes from some guy not long ago..2016 “Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. As high as 35 — as in fact, I heard recently, 42 percent.” August 2016 “The 5 percent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics.” Dec. 2016 “The terrible jobs report that just came out … you can see phony numbers, 5 percent.” Makes one wonder if the employment numbers are real

Carlos Ponce

John Meza, that depends on the unemployment numbers you are looking at.
U-1 Persons unemployed 15 weeks or longer, as a percent of the civilian labor force
U-2 Job losers and persons who completed temporary jobs, as a percent of the civilian labor force
U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers
U-5 Total unemployed, plus discouraged workers, plus all other persons marginally attached to the labor force, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force
The BLS number usually reported to the public is the U-3.

Paul Hyatt

I have found in my life that people who bring up being a racist first are usually the ones who are the racists.... Seems like in your case the shoe might fit so you might be the one to wear it....

Robert Ray

Emile Pope, aside from a remark quoting Trump’s campaign slogan, I saw no mention of POTUS in the article whatsoever. However, you were sure quick to bring it up. Perhaps it is hard to take you seriously when you jump to such political statements.

Here is what I know... the relationship between people in this country has steadily gotten worse over the course of the last 10 years. That’s people in general, Black, yellow, white, red... between ‘races’ and within those of the same ‘race’. Worse, relationships with those who have sworn to protect and serve and those who they made those oaths to have worsened during that same time to the point where we are once again hearing angry terms used that haven’t been common place since the 1960s! Isn’t it past time that we stop this trend? Isn’t it time to build bridges rather than burn them down? Let’s quit shaking fists at one another and yelling that one side is privileged while the other side is entitled and stretch out our hands and offer them to help one another. Let’s shake hands like human beings and act like the brothers and sisters on this Earth that we are!

Emile Pope

If you are as concerned as you pretend to be, you would speak out and take action when evidence of mistreatment and abuse is shown instead of criticizing the people who are protesting and taking steps to stop it. The right of free speech and the right to criticize is ingrained in the Constitution and to tell people that they shouldn't simply because you don't wish to hear of it is ridiculous.

Carlos Ponce

" right of free speech and the right to criticize is ingrained in the Constitution"
Okay but the Constitution applies to government run entities. Does it apply to private business? Aside from whistle blowing laws, no. Does it apply to state run universities? Yes. So the NFL limiting protests while on the job is legal. But a university forbidding a Conservative speaker from speaking on campus is illegal. Comprendes? Verstehen sie? Do you understand?

Emile Pope

You take the position that Trump can do anything he wants and not be held accountable simply because he is a Republican. And long winded excuses don't change anything. Your support of him erases all credibility...

Carlos Ponce

"You take the position that Trump can do anything he wants and not be held accountable simply because he is a Republican."
Wrong Emile, I do not take that position. Nor do I agree with everything he has done and that includes his pre-Presidential life. Now if there is PROOF of what you allege I'll listen. So far you haven't posted any nor is there proof anywhere else. In the United States a person is innocent unless PROVEN guilty. In Emile's mind, Trump is guilty simply because he ran as a Republican. Face it, Emile you'd be making biased accusations no matter which Republican had won. And in your eyes, every Democrat is saintly, especially your St. Hillary and St. Barack. Time for a REALITY check. Looking forward to the IG report.

Emile Pope

The fact that you support Trump shows that facts and proof is irrelevant to you. Good luck...

Carlos Ponce

Well then, Emile, how about some PROOF? The article Kimberly Jones Yancy provides is filled with accusations and riddled with hyperbole, obfuscations and false statements. No proof there at all just unproven anti Trump HATRED.

Carlos Ponce

Typical Emile. Demanding PROOF from everyone but rarely providing any for his own allegations.

Kelly Naschke

Did Daniels miss the black unemployment numbers that are at historic lows? Does Daniels prefer black unemployment to be at historic highs? And where are your examples that Carlos requested Mr. Pope?

Emile Pope

I heard Trump cancelled the meeting with North Korea. He says that they have to apologize for Pearl Harbor and the sinking of the Maine...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, if this is your attempt at humor, you've failed.

Emile Pope

Apparently Trump accused the Canadians of burning down the white house during the War of 1812...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, look at the Canadian Citizenship Study Guide on the History of Canada:
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/discover-canada/read-online/canadas-history.html
"Major-General Robert Ross led an expedition from Nova Scotia that burned down the White House and other public buildings in Washington, D.C."
There was no COUNTRY of Canada in 1814. They were indeed considered British. But since the troops that burned down the White House (nee "The Presidential Mansion or Palace) came from Nova Scotia, some have surmised they were specifically "Canadian". Emile, Nova Scotia is in Canada. But whether they were just stationed there or were from there is in question. What is not in question is that the troops that burned what would come to be known as "The White House" after a re-paint to hide the scorch marks came from Nova Scotia, Canada.

Emile Pope

No matter what idiotic thing Trump you always try to explain it away. It's starting to/is looking pathetic. Since Trump can do no wrong in your eyes, it's useless to try and reason with you. Seek help...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, it is you who should seek help.

Emile Pope

http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/didnt-you-guys-burn-down-the-white-house-trump-uses-war-of-1812-to-justify-canada-as-security-threat

Emile Pope

Robert Ross was from IRELAND. His troops were from BRITAIN. This is beyond question. So your assertion that Canada (which wasn't even a country then) burned down the White House is totally false. "Some have surmised that they were specifically Canadian" Who? Provide sources.

Carlos Ponce

"Robert Ross was from IRELAND. His troops were from BRITAIN. This is beyond question."
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Alexander Hamilton were all born British, so what?
I've already provided the source which is a Canadian government source that shows the troops that burned Washington DC came from Nova Scotia, Canada of the British Empire. Did you BOTHER to read it or do you also consider a Canadian government website on the history of Canada "garbage"?

Carlos Ponce

From Emile's source:
"In August of 1814, the U.S. federal capital was indeed invaded and burned by troops based in what is now Canada. However, the soldiers who sacked Washington were all British. Granted, at the time Canada was still a British colony and any resident there would have been considered British."
As were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, etc before the Declaration of Independence.
Is Emile Pope a Galvestonian?
Or is he a Texan?
Or is he an American?????
Is it possible that he's all THREE?
So in 1814 all Canadians were also British but they were still CANADIAN!

Carlos Ponce

"Today We Celebrate the Time Canada Burned Down the White House-Two hundred years ago today, a 36-year old America declared war, for the second time, against Great Britain" June 18, 2012
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/today-we-celebrate-the-time-canada-burned-down-the-white-house-127844144/


Emile Pope

"However, the soldiers who burned down Washington were all expeditionary troops sent direct from Great Britain". CANADA WAS NOT A COUNTRY. Aparently U.S. soldiers in Germany are Germans and American soldiers in Okinawa are Japanese...interesting cluelessness...

George Croix

Obviously, that would mean he needs medical attention.
Better call a "corpse man" to help him.....[beam][beam][beam]

Emile Pope

Ponce defends Trump when he states that a country that wouldnt exist for another 50 years burned down the US Capitol. Was a terminator involved? Mr. Peabody’s wayback machine? Sad...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, I posted they were considered BRITISH but CANADIAN HISTORY FROM a CANADIAN WEB SITE for CITIZENSHIP STUDY posts the British troops under Major General Robert Ross came from the British colony in Nova Scotia, Canada. And those troops burned government buildings in Washington DC including the Presidential Palace which will be renamed "White House" after a paint job to hide scorch marks from the fire. I did not make it up. Check the web site.

Emile Pope

Garbage. Unless you have evidence that a country named Canada existed before or during the War of 1812, then you and your president are both TOTALLY WRONG. Two wrongs are both wrong...

Jim Forsythe

We are imposing tariffs because of something that happen in 1812? To use it's as a "national security" issue to justify the tariff, against a country that is our ally is setting us up for a loss of a ally.
Mr Trudeau asked how the US could justify the tariffs as a "national security" issue. The US imposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from its allies - the EU, Canada and Mexico - last week. "It is simply ridiculous to view any trade with Canada as a national security threat to the US,"
Trumps reply
"Mr. Trump asked Mr. Trudeau, “Didn’t you guys burn down the White House?"
No, Canada did not burn down the White House during the War of 1812, Canada was a British colonies.

Emile Pope

Next Ponce will be telling of how the country of New York's troops landed on the shores of Normandy and the state of Hawaii being attacked on Dec. 7...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, are you a Texan or an American? Or can you be both?
The French named the area Canada back in the 16th century from the Huron-Iroquois word “kanata,”. The British first named it the "Province of Quebec" but in
in 1791, the Province of Quebec was divided into the colonies of Upper Canada and Lower Canada.
This information is from the official Canadian webite:
https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/origin-name-canada.html
By the way, Emile, 1791 comes BEFORE the burning of Washington DC in 1814.

Carlos Ponce

"Next Ponce will be telling of how the country of New York's troops landed on the shores of Normandy and the state of Hawaii being attacked on Dec. 7..."
Emile, I can only fix ignorance. I cannot fix stu.......

Emile Pope

Some people don’t know the difference between a state and a country, a colony and a country, and a territory and a country. Apparently the only thing they can fix is their blinders...

Carlos Ponce

While you're fixing your blinders remember a person such as Emile Pope can be a Galvestonian, a Texan AND an American ALL at the same time. Canadians were for many years a part of the British empire. They were Canadian AND British at the same time.

George Croix

Yep.
The 2012 'initiative's of what our then President called "the new normal" of low employment, low expectations for the next generation's future, and increased dependency on government'.
That's what got the country in so much better economic shape today...for all demographics.
No doubt that'll be in the history books.....
Ex-Pres. Obama repeatedly questioned how then candidate Trump could do for the economy what he said he'd do to improve it. "How's he gonna do that?"
There was something about a 'magic wand', too.

Presto...chango....[beam][beam][beam][whistling]

George Croix

"David Leonhardt is an American journalist and columnist writing from a liberal progressive perspective. His column appears in The New York Times on Tuesdays, and he also writes a daily e-mail newsletter, Opinion Today."

Hmmmmm.......
Still, could be impartial here......

Adding to the ones Carlos has already blown out of the water as selectively interpretted:

"according to multiple sources"....
Yet, none named.

"He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”
No. He said the criminals raping the girls and women, as claimed by them, traveling towards the border were Mexicans. The attacks DID occur in Mexico, so most folks would draw the same conclusion.

"He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants.'
No. He quite specifically demonizes MS13, not all immigrants. Even the NYT had to back off it's recent similar claim....although Nancy and Chuck have not done so yet....

"...because I really believe they do have an actual advantage."
What was/is 'affirmative action' and quotas if not an advantage.

"Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States'
Bunk. He did no such thing. He called for shutting out the same countries that Obama called for. The other 90% of Muslims in the world would have been unaffeted.

Etc.
Etc.
Etc.
This 'source' is full of left wing talking points that any 12 year old with 15 minutes of time and a laptop could blow out of the water as the cherry picked when not outright dishonest cra_ it is.

Well, it's not against the law to believe whatever we want..

George Croix

Good news is bad news if good news means bad news can no longer be used as a reason to demand more good news, then claim it's bad news so demands can be made for more good news, then.....

'Catch 22' meets 'Groundhog Day'.....

George Croix

A President is an employee hired by the citizens (bosses/shareholders) of the country (the business) and given a 4 year contract to resolve the problems or produce the goods/services for that business.
The job of a President is to be productive, as it would be for any employee of any business, and make a profit for as many 'shareholders' as possible.

A celebrity is an entertainer that we pay to see depending on the level of popularity the entertainer can achieve, and we don't care if they ever produce any tangible benefit for anybody other than being popular to us.

In this country, we increasingly get the two confused, and many...many...MANY...think a personally popular employee (President), who's supposed to be solving problems and producing, is the only thing that matters as long as he talks a good story around the water cooler. Re-hire that guy, 'cause we LIKE him, even though we're broke/unemployed/laughed at by our 'friends and enemies'. That jerk over there in the corner does more work and produces more goods, but, he's a jerk, so we dislike him totally, no matter his ability.

It's just another take on the 'participation trophy', where as long as everybody feels good, it doesn't matter if they can't get on base, much less hit a home run. The game is not to win, it's to show up and 'be flexible'....
And the 'safe space', where as long as we are not threatened with anything we don't want to face, we are happy...and by all means we must not face any opposition to anything we don't like. If we do, we'll try to destroy that....
And the entitlement culture, where we expect...expect...to be provided with what we want, even if we can't get it for ourselves, and will vote for whomever promises to give...that's give...it to us.

Raise your keyboard if you ever really disliked one of your bosses.
Now, raise it if you quit your job because you didn't like that boss, or did your best to wreck your company as a 'protest' against that jerk boss?

Anybody?
Anybody?

I'm guessing #1 has a cast of thousands and #2 would fit in the back of my Ford 4x4....easily.

Hippo...
Hypo....
Something like that.....

George Croix

Steel and aluminum in sufficient quantities and availabilty are national security issues, Jim.
Remember an often verified thing about 'friends'...Your friends will stab you in the back, but your true friends will stab you in the front.
In the end, Canada probably wins this one, as, if it's correct, I hear they produce most of the TP we use in the USofA.

Priorities.....
[wink]

Jim Forsythe

Instead of going after the one's causing the glut of steel(China) on the world market , Trump goes after all. He could get most of the Senators to agree to tariffs on China, instead many are against the tariffs on all.
That flood of steel has depressed prices, making it difficult for many American steelmakers to compete.
"The root of the current trade mess lies in a surplus of global steel, which most analysts blame on excess Chinese investment in production facilities. Steelmakers worldwide produce 700 million tons of steel more than customers need, or seven times total U.S. production, the Commerce Department says.That flood of steel has depressed prices, making it difficult for many American steelmakers to compete."

What could be done to reduce the world surplus?
"Last year, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross negotiated voluntary reductions in global capacity. But Trump rejected the deal. "
Will this tactic lead us back to 1929?
“This is dumb. Europe, Canada and Mexico are not China, and you don’t treat allies the same way you treat opponents,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) said. “We’ve been down this road before — blanket protectionism is a big part of why America had a Great Depression. ‘Make America Great Again’ shouldn’t mean ‘Make America 1929 Again.’ ”

"But European officials are increasingly irritated by Trump’s aggressive use of obscure provisions in U.S. trade laws against U.S. allies."
“It’s more than highly unusual. It’s unprecedented to have gone after so many U.S. allies and trading partners, alienating them and forcing them to retaliate,” said economist Douglas Irwin, author of a history of U.S. trade policy since 1763. “It’s hard to see how the U.S. is going to come out well from this whole exercise.”
Last April, he ordered the U.S. Department of Commerce to lay the groundwork for restricting foreign steel and aluminum. Trump cited a U.S. law, the Trade Expansion Act of 1962, which authorizes the president to “adjust the imports” of any item “so that such imports will not threaten to impair the national security.” In June, at a WTO meeting, delegates from other countries protested that Trump’s case didn’t fit Article XXI. They warned that if the WTO were to accept such an abuse of the security exemption, everyone would copy the trick, gutting the trade-adjudication system. But the U.S. delegation insisted that steel and aluminum were crucial to our national defense.


Carlos Ponce

Jim, the US has had a trade deficit since 1976. The other countries are grandstanding because they want to hold onto the gravy train trade advantage they have enjoyed for decades. Calling Trump's actions for trade equity "aggressive" is just trying to trying to get an edge on the upcoming negotiations. Learn the "Art of the Deal" as opposed to the policy of appeasement we've had for years. I surmise the nay sayers on both sides of the aisle are being influenced by ouside the country forces. Is that what you want?

George Croix

Jim, it's not easy to correct years of 'America after everybody else'...gonna take longer than a few months...
AND Our 'friends and allies', often indistiguishable except at DC dinner parties and on the MSM 'news', have been taking advantage of American generosity and/or us kowtowing to them for decades - now they want to B and 'fight back' when asked for a level playing field....need to follow the money connections between them and their advocates here.....
So far, the predictions of nuclear war, drastically expanding worldwide terrorism, the Krugman (another 'Nobel prize' winner...) guaranteed worldwide economic collapse, and global environmental apocolypse resulting from electing Pres.Trump have not only not come true, but pretty much the exact opposite of each dire claim has occurred.
The Smart People, just ask them, are having to recalculate, or just continue to crawfish.
Time to save on rhinoplasty costs with some Botox injections in a lot of knees....

This steel and aluminum issue may turn south, especially if the Canadians double the price on TP, but imo it's better to try to get some fairness in trade than to just grab cheeks and bend over like we've been doing for too long.....
I may, though, have to rethink that now that there's no longer a Sears catalog... [wink]

George Croix

Jim, nobody 'forced them to retaliate'....they could have avoided screwing us over via trade imbalance in the first place.....

George Croix

A lot has changed since 1812
According to one recent ex-President, this country grew to 57 states, Arkansas is next to Kentucky, 'Austrian' is a language, and his own daughter was 13 when she was 12.

And all that's important because.....well, it's not.....

George Croix

I left out that the same ex-Pres. claimed his own creation was a direct biological result of the Selma, Alabama marches of 1965.
Only problem was Obama was born in 1961.....


Agfain...who cares.....

Emile Pope

Proof?

Carlos Ponce

Excerpt from Barack Obama speech in Selma, Alabama, March 4, 2007:
"So the Kennedy’s decided we’re going to do an air lift. We’re going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.
This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama."
Snopes:
"Although Mboya did raise money (from a variety of contributors) for scholarships for Kenyan students during a trip he made to the United States in 1959, it was not until July 1960 that he met John F. Kennedy and persuaded the senator to contribute $100,000 to his cause through the Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Foundation. Technically, therefore, Barack Obama’s father did not come to the United States with money directly provided by the Kennedy family (as Barack Sr. had arrived in the U.S. the year before, benefiting from funds previously raised by Tom Mboya), but he did come to the U.S. as part of an ongoing program that the Kennedy family helped fund."
"Senator Obama might be considered guilty of engaging in little pandering here by trying to imply a direct line between the 1965 Selma, Alabama, marches and his personal background (since he was speaking in Selma at the time)."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/say-what-barack/
"There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge.So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born." - Barack Obama.
Barack Obama was born in 1961, The Selma march occurred in 1965. Maybe his parents were time travelers.[wink]

George Croix

Ah, yes. Mr. Proof.
You routinely demand, then refuse to accept, what you yourself rarely, if ever, provide.
But, here's the quotes, anyway.....enjoy your sandwich....

"Vice President Dan Quayle was virtually laughed out of Washington for misspelling potato back in 1992, yet Barack Obama made a more elementary flub when, during the 2008 campaign, he said: “I’ve now been in 57 states-I think one left to go.”
"During the 2008 primary campaign, he explained why he was trailing Hillary Clinton in Kentucky: “Sen. Clinton, I think, is much better known, coming from a nearby state of Arkansas. So it’s not surprising that she would have an advantage in some of those states in the middle.” Obama’s home state of Illinois, and not Arkansas, shares a border with Kentucky."
"In April 2009, on one of his many foreign trips, President Obama mused, “I don’t know what the term is in Austrian” for “wheeling and dealing.” Oops, Mr. President. There is no Austrian language."
"Obama told his audience that, because some folks had the courage to “march across a bridge” in Selma, Alabama, his mother, a white woman from Kansas, and his father, a black Muslim from Africa, took heart. It gave them the courage to get married and have a child. The problem with that characterization is that Barack Obama, Jr. was born on August 4, 1961, while the first of three marches across that bridge in Selma didn’t occur until March 7, 1965, at least five years after Obama’s parents met."

Everybody makes gaffs....

George Croix

ps:
I promise that's peanut butter on the sandwich....[wink][cool]

The simple point is it's pointless to place much more than a brief laugh on the same kind of everyday bloopers everybody makes, whether in a red or blue shirt.
Even the BS (lie seems a bit much, too me, although, technically it was unless ex-Pres. Obama didn't know when his own birthday was) about Selma was, imo, more somebody obsessed with his place in history to the point of manipulating facts to suit himself than any real attempt to mislead, as anybody can disprove his statement in 30 seconds flat. He never said it again that was noted, so he just scraped the face egg off and went on, happy to fool some of the people all of time....He knew that his adoring followers would never question his self-claimed connection to a great civil rights moment in history, because he was 'their guy'....
Some of Pres. Trumps followers are just as ardent in their support.....

All of which amounts to....nothing.....

Emile Pope

It's gaffes. And you offered no sources for your statements...

Carlos Ponce

"And you offered no sources for your statements..."
Coming from Emile, THAT'S HILARIOUS!!!!!![beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

Left out the birthday:
" In his remarks, Obama made a reference to daughter Malia, saying she was 13 years old, when at the time she was 12.'

George Croix

Look them up yourself, Pope. Or, just deny reality, and stick to your predictable script. I understand that for you if these silly and normal-for-everybody-to-screw-up but these done by Obama errors really did take place then you look a little silly whining about Trump and the War of 1812. So, pretend they didn't, and move along as usual...
The only 'proof' you ever offer is your own words....but, I'm not buying bait today, so you're out of luck...
Unless you're blind and totally dishonest you can verify them all in about 5 minutes...15 if still munching that sandwich....
No more babysitting...put your big boy pants on and look for yourself...
Oh.
I forgot, actually, I didn't care, that for the the perpetually but_ puckered a mizzppelled word is Kryptonite.
Having remembered that now, I still don't care.....

Emile Pope

It's not my job to prove your statements. It's yours. And since you haven't provided any one can only assume you have none. And a picture of a tinfoil hat isn't considered proof...

Carlos Ponce

So the next Emile demands PROOF, just post "It's not my job to prove your statements. It's yours."
HYPOCRISY, Emile, pure HYPOCRISY!

Emile Pope

What would a trump supporter know about hypocrisy?

Carlos Ponce

Emile, recognizing hypocrisy has nothing to do with political affiliation.

George Croix

One thing anyone can say for you, Pope, is you're consistent.
If I had Barack Obama himself stand in front of you and repeat it, you'd still deny it, or, as usual, just divert. Come to think of it, that's exactly how the ex-Pres. handled things. Keep it up. Don't ever change.
Maybe you'll get to visit the 57 states someday, with only one more to go.
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