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Carlos Ponce

"Let those not forget that Trump is the one that started the 'birther' movement" WRONG! The birther movement was started much earlier.

2008 -"Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship." Snopes states " That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn’t in question, but the claim that that’s the moment the birther theory 'first emerged' simply isn’t true." Hillary's campaigners didn't create the birther movement. But after that e-mail the idea grew in numbers. "Clearly, the Clinton supporters accused of spreading it via forwarded e-mails knew 'good ammo' when they saw it..."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-started-birther-movement/

Did Trump start the "birther movement". No. Hillary didn't either but after her campaigners used it in 2008, it took off.

Carlos Ponce

"attacked Gold Star families" All Trump asked was why the mother of Humayun Khan was on stage during the Democrat Convention - and said nothing. I wondered the same thing. Jeff Taylor considers this an "attack". No, Jeff, it was not an attack.

Vote for whomever you want, Jeff, but don't be surprised when that person falls short of the perfection you expect in President Trump. Come November we will be electing a president, not a saint.

Carlos Ponce

"His actions and words are below the dignity of the office of President of the United States."

Perhaps you are referring to having sexual encounters with interns in the Oval Office? (Clinton)

Or having affairs in the White House? (Kennedy)

Or urinating in the Rose Garden to avoid questions from the press? (L. B. Johnson)

Or calling an African nation a "sh*t show"? (Obama)

Use of vulgar language when referring to a journalist? (Truman)

Or to owning slaves while in office? ( Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Van Buren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Taylor)

Jeff Taylor, can you name any president who meets your standards? How about any current candidate?

Dan Freeman

What's True

President Obama reportedly used the term "shit show" in private to refer to the escalating violence in Libya following the death of Muammar al-Qaddafi.

What's False

President Obama's comment was about an escalating war, not the country itself; Obama's remarks were widely reported by the media at the time.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, you are so predictable and so easy to trigger. I love how defend a President whose behaviors you would have never tolerated in your classroom.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin, can you name a president without faults? Gary Scoggin, can you name a current candidate without faults? Gary Scoggin, don't you recognize the unsubstantiated Liberal propaganda in this letter to the editor? Do you think making up lies about Trump and regurgitating Liberal propaganda is worthy of defense, or should we call it out?

Gary Scoggin

So you would have tolerated the President’s behavior in your classroom. Too bad.

Carlos Ponce

The classroom is not a Democracy nor a Republic. I can pull a student out of my class, call parents, send to the principal, etc. Some offenses even warrant arrest. But THEY'RE BACK in class. A student struck me atop the head with a full beer can. Next year he was in my class following a term of expulsion. A student fires a 22 striking another student and a teacher with rat shot. The next year, he was in my class. Another student pistol whipped a cheerleader with a loaded gun. And later reinstated in school. Now Trump hasn't done anything near what these students did.

Cindy Milina

Jeff, your letter is a regurgitation of CNN soundbytes. Where was the President on Thanksgiving? Oh yeah, visiting troops in Afghanistan. I have no respect for the media because most twist stories to fit their narratives, or worse, don't report newsworthy items at all. Whether you know it or not, Trump has been good for America and all of the media bashing hasn't distracted him from acting in our best interests. Trump 2020.

Bailey Jones

No one is without fault - that seems to be the conservative apologia these days - as though all faults are equal. I can think of a lot of presidents who - even with all their faults - set positive examples, the types of things one might be happy to have one's own child emulate. Scholarship, for example. Trump is the only president in living memory who doesn't read books. Marital fidelity - Obama, two Bush's, Reagan, Carter- they radiated love and faithfulness for their partners. An understanding of, and respect for, the institutions of government and politics. A real and sincere religious faith. A self-examined life. An appreciation for the arts. Humility. The ability to express positive human emotions. The ability to admit when you're wrong and apologize for it. A love of animals. Telling the truth. ("Father, I cannot tell a lie, I chopped down the cherry tree" or "honest Abe walking five miles to return six pennies worth of change to a woman he had accidentally overcharged" - how quaint these fables seem today.)

Trump is none of this. He is a bully. He is a narcissist. He is a self-entitled spoiled brat. He is a liar and shameless self-promoter. He is a draft dodger. He is a fraud. He knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. I honestly can't think of a single trait of Donald Trump that I could point to and tell one of my grandchildren, "you should try to be more like that". I shudder to think that teachers are exalting him as an example to the next generation.

Carlos Ponce

"He is a bully." No, he's a counter puncher. People like a president who stands up for himself and the United States. No apology tours for Trump!

Gary Scoggin

Just like he counterpunched Heidi Cruz. Boy she had it coming I’m sure. What did she do, again?

Carlos Ponce

They started it by circulating a picture of Melania.

Gary Scoggin

Heidi circulated that picture? Or was it someone else but the President made her fair game? And wasn't the offending pictures already widely available on the Internet?

Carlos Ponce

The Ted Cruz Super PAC made Melania part of the game. Trump responded in kind

Gary Scoggin

So you agree Heidi Cruz did nothing.

Carlos Ponce

Like I stated, Ted Cruz's Super PAC started it. And after what the PAC did to Dr. Ben Carson, I believe Ted told them to be more truthful and don't mention family.

Jim Forsythe

Melania lists the cover shoot as one of her greatest achievements. Since she was proud of it, it made since to make sure everyone was able to see it.

Conservative PAC, Make America Awesome was just helping, by providing the information to people.

Melania Trump posed nude in a photo spread for a French adult magazine in 1995. She had a long history of nudes and even had a photo shoot on Trumps plane.

Originally published in January 2000 in GQ

“Given that she was obviously so keen to be featured in GQ, we came up with a rather kitsch and camp story for her to feature in." Donald Trump also requested that photographs be delivered to his office. “We framed the cover and a selection of prints and sent them as soon as we could.”

It appears the First Lady is rather proud of the images: the new White House website lists the cover shoot as one of her greatest achievements. Recently it has become a source of controversy as questions are raised over how Melania secured her US visa.

While Trump claims to be "protecting" Americans from the evils of "chain migration," he is apparently married to its poster girl! First, Melania Knavs took work away from American models. Then, after Melania Knave married Trump and became an American citizen, her parents "chain migrated" to the US!

Charles Douglas

"Melania Trump took work away from American models." How many illegals have taken work from Americans period,...and the LEFT remained quiet? Why not, the LEFT are those who are inviting illegals from all over the world to flood into this country, ...just come on!!! Another thing, let me address the elephant in the room! OKAY? Ms. Melania Trump is one of the most beautiful women on this planet, and is gifted too. The woman speak five different languages they tell me! The thing I like more than anything else about her is she is a help-mate for the "DONALD!" He, Trump is my Main-Man! THAT REMINDS ME!!!!!!!!!! I got to renew my membership for the year! Good thing I saw this Op-ed.

Carlos Ponce

Jim Forsythe. You did not mention the caption the Ted Cruz SuperPac attached to photo! Strange for Jim to be defending the Ted Cruz Super PAC since he voted for Beaten O'Rourke.[whistling]

Jim Forsythe

Reply to Charles Douglas Jan 21, 2020 3:27pm

The commit was direct toward Carlos and his saying that it "They started it by circulating a picture of Melania."

They the magazines and such, are the ones that paid her for pictures. Melania agreed that the pictures could in the public domain.

As far as illegals, how many has Trump and his family employed?

2017--More than 600,000 visitors stayed past the expiration of their visa, turning them into undocumented immigrants at risk of deportation. If you want me to go into what I see as a better way to approach the problem, let me know. It is long, so be for warned.

Jim Forsythe

Reply to Carlos Ponce Jan 21, 2020 4:04pm

Carlos, I believe Cruz when he says, the " super PAC that is not affiliated with the Cruz campaign". Do you Carlos believe him, or is he lying?

The digital dustup between the two presidential candidates , stemming from an anti-Trump ad commissioned by a super PAC that is not affiliated with the Cruz campaign. The ad, which appeared on Facebook, shows Trump's wife, Melania, posing nude in a photo shoot for GQ Magazine.

Carlos, do you have a problem with Melania posing nude. Is the problem she sold the rights to the photos, which means they can be used forever. Remember " White House website lists the cover shoot as one of her greatest achievements."

A caption on the photo reads, "No need to 'spill the beans.' The images are worth a thousand words."

Cruz responded, saying: "Donald, real men don't attack women. Your wife is lovely, and Heidi is the love of my life."

Carlos Ponce

CAPTION CAPTION CAPTION! Ted Cruz's Super PAC did not just send the PICTURE around, Jim. They sent a caption with it. And was it okay for Ted Cruz's Super PAC to involve Trump's family IN THE FIRST PLACE? Ted Cruz then told the Super PAK to lay off the lies (like they told about Dr. Ben Carson) and keep the opponent's FAMILY out of it. Remember when you got upset when I wished your sons a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year? DO YOU GET IT NOW?

Carlos Ponce

Jim, a Super PAC cannot legally be affiliated with any campaign. But their actions supporting Cruz met with favor from Ted Cruz's campaign. The Super PAC was "Make America Awesome". The ads targeted Mormon voters ahead of the Utah primary. the New York Post described it as "A dirty move against a candidate’s family member: Spouses are noncombatants unless they’re wearing a uniform."

Emile Pope

If an undocumented worker took your job we’re you really that god at it?

Bailey Jones

This is a great example of how the moral failure of a leader debases his followers. Or, conversely, attracts those of a similar bent.

Jim Forsythe

Bringing up the past when we have a president that we are talking about, is nothing but saying, look at that shiny object.

When did apology tour become a talking point? It started with Mitt Romney. The apology tour lie has been debunked at Snopes, Carlos often used site.

Mitt Romney says Barack Obama began his presidency "with an apology tour"

From Snoopes.

The notion that President Barack Obama started his presidency with an "apology tour" is a persistent and false Republican talking point that we have debunked a number of times.

Romney has accused Obama of beginning his presidency "with an apology tour."

Our reviews of Obama’s 2009 foreign travels and speeches showed no such thing. While he criticized past U.S. actions, such as torture practices at Guantanamo, he did not offer one apology.

It’s ridiculous to call Obama’s foreign visits and remarks "an apology tour." We rate this statement Pants on Fire!

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/17/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-began/

Carlos Ponce

Obama's Apology Tour was well known before Romney mentioned it in 2012.

Santa Ana Orange County Register April 9, 2009 " Our President is done with his worldwind apology tour.

Over one-hundred newspapers, references to Obama's apology tour before Romney mentioned it. Snopes dropped the ball on this one.

How about Galveston Daily News September 22, 2010. Page B6? Column by Norman Pappous. He writes about the "Democrat World Apology Tour".

Carlos Ponce

How about the Wall Street Journal? "The President's Apology Tour " April 23, 2009

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124044156269345357

Bailey Jones

From the WSJ piece by Karl Rove - The President's Apology Tour

Great leaders aren't defined by consensus.

By Karl Rove

"President Barack Obama has finished the second leg of his international confession tour. In less than 100 days, he has apologized on three continents for what he views as the sins of America and his predecessors."

Wow - imagine a president who can apologize, not only for his own shortcomings, but for the shortcomings and failures of the whole country.

From a Heritage article (https://www.heritage.org/europe/report/barack-obamas-top-10-apologies-how-the-president-has-humiliated-superpower) - of course, like Carlos and all other Trumpsters, they see an apology as a sign of weakness, not moral character and strength -

On Europe - "So we must be honest with ourselves. In recent years we've allowed our Alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive."

On Islam - "My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect. But if you look at the track record, as you say, America was not born as a colonial power, and that the same respect and partnership that America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago, there's no reason why we can't restore that."

On our hemisphere - "All of us must now renew the common stake that we have in one another. I know that promises of partnership have gone unfulfilled in the past, and that trust has to be earned over time. While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms. But I pledge to you that we seek an equal partnership. There is no senior partner and junior partner in our relations; there is simply engagement based on mutual respect and common interests and shared values. So I'm here to launch a new chapter of engagement that will be sustained throughout my administration."

My god, Jim, I miss that man.

Carlos Ponce

Thank you Bailey. Jim insists the term "apology tour" started with Mitt Romney in 2012.

Jim Forsythe

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/17/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obama-began/

Carlos Ponce

As you notice, Jim, there are over a hundred newspapers that began publishing about Barack Obama's World Apology Tour in 2009 and 2010 including the Galveston County Daily News. Too much evidence to contradict. Not only did he apologize for the United States but he also bowed down to foreign dignitaries. Don't you remember? In the Book 1984 there was a Ministry of Truth that rewrote history. Sounds an awful lot like Politifact and Snopes in this particular situation. The past isn't what you remember they will tell you..... [rolleyes]

Charles Douglas

No, no,no, Nawwwww! Trump was not visiting Troops on Thanksgiving! He was busy double-crossing Israel, .by plotting the dismissal of their Prime Minister Mr. Netanyahu. Noooo, He was sending C130 AIRCRAFTS in the Middle of the night loaded with BILLIONS of NUCLEAR Black-mail payoff dollars to Iran behind the American people's back! NAW..NAW..., He was on an APOLOGY tour around the world telling everybody how bad America has been to everybody. NAW that wasn't it ...he was signing off on the C-Rations, and Blankets he shipped to the Ukraine so they could fight off the Russians, who invaded their country and ANNEXED Crimea while he was looking! Naww, naww.. Trump was to busy using his pen and phone to bipass the Constitution, and Congress by setting up DACA illegally! Nawwww, come to think of it, that wasn't Trump at all! Who was that who did those things and got a complete pass from the LEFT, DEMOCRATS, & the DEEP STATE while the FAKE NEWS had their collective heads buried in the grounds of deception and conspiracy? He spoke well, ..and he dressed spiffy,...I remember that! Yeah, ..and he evolved quite a bit, I surely remember that! It was not Trump though! Come on now! This guy use to draw REDLINES in the sand, and run when the enemy crossed them! He use to routinely allow other leaders to change his CALCULUS!!!! I got that name on the tip of my tongue! Oh I can't think of that dude's nameeeeee! Who was "DAT?"

Charles Douglas

Y'all know who I'm talking about!!!! I need to knowwwww!! He use to bash our police and law enforcement daily. He excoriated the religious gun owners in this country!!! I NEED TO KNOW!!!!!!!!!!

Charles Douglas

"You like your plan?" "Imma let you keep your plan!" "You like your doctor?" "Imma let you keep your doctor!" "Tell VLAD, I will have more flexibility, to get our plan done after my next election!" ( A little while later, the warm water naval port of Crimea was taken from the Ukraine by Russia!) This man I'm talking about traded five high ranking Teliban prisoners from GITMO, who later returned to the battle field to kill more Americans, in order to get a first class bonified coward named BERGDAHL back! Negotiated with the Taliban for a coward, but would not do a thing for Kyla Mueller the beautiful young American humanitarian who BAGHDADDI, the ISIS leader held as his Sex Slave and killed her after unfinished degrading her! Yall know who I'm talking about now? I guess I will quit then. I just can't get that nameeeee! That could not be Trump....could it?

Mike Zeller

Definition of a Republican Tea Party Racist - GARY MILLER

Emile Pope

trump’s a criminal and deserves what he gets...

Carlos Ponce

"deserves what he gets..." - RE-ELECTED!

Emile Pope

President Barack Obama was never impeached. And no president until donald was ever impeached for conspiring with a foreign government. And donald is the first elected president impeached during his first term. And now he becomes IPOTUS forever...

Carlos Ponce

Obama held up funds Congress had promised to Egypt. And the Obama administration threatened to cut off aid to Nigeria if the country passed an anti-homosexual bill in 2011. Trump did not conspire with a foreign government. He was following the terms of a treaty made with President Clinton and the Ukraine.

Emile Pope

To help a political campaign? To target an political opponent? To target an American citizen? Sorry but impeached donald has run out of excuses...he's a crook and history will judge him and all his supporters...

Carlos Ponce

Sorry Emile but Trump did none of that. Those are just Democrat Party talking points with no evidence to back them. Speaking of evidence the Democrats calling for documents and witnesses shows they don't have enough. They CLAIMED they had enough to impeach but now not enough for a trial? The House is the fact finding part of the process. The Senate LISTENS to those FACTS and reaches a judgement. That's the way Bill Clinton's impeachment was done. Don't you remember? But Schiff demanding additional testimony and documents shows how WEAK their case is.

Emile Pope

The fact that the repubs refuse to allow any evidence or witnesses shows how strong their case is? The fact that the repubs refused to supply any documentation and ordered their staff not to testify shows that they have nothing to hide? Your arguments are a joke...

Carlos Ponce

In legal defense, defendants DON'T MAKE A CASE. It is up to the prosecutors, here the House managers, to present the House findings from the impeachment hearings. If it was enough to impeach, they don't need any more. Your post shows a lack of knowledge of impeachment trials. Then again, the House Managers and Democrat Senators also show that same lack of knowledge. You're on the same boat as them. The S.S. Impeachment is sinking.

Jim Claffy

Emile Pope said:

"President Barack Obama was never impeached. And no president until donald was ever impeached for conspiring with a foreign government. And donald is the first elected president impeached during his first term. And now he becomes IPOTUS forever..."

The country is learning that the House of Representatives' impeachment means nothing, especially at the hands of Democrats. They think the President is somehow tarnished by their actions. Instead, they are making him a martyr, defender of the Constitution, a shining light on the corrupt leadership that inhabits Washington D.C. Democrats are being exposed as power-hungry partisans who will stop at nothing to destroy a duly elected President of the United States. Their blatant disregard for the Constitution will come back to haunt them. In 2020 and beyond. Soon President Trump will be acquitted and become AIPOTUS forever. Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and the rest will go down as swamp dwellers, forever.

Emile Pope said:

"The fact that the repubs refuse to allow any evidence or witnesses shows how strong their case is? The fact that the repubs refused to supply any documentation and ordered their staff not to testify shows that they have nothing to hide? Your arguments are a joke..."

No Emile, your arguments are a joke. If you will, can you honestly tell us how you would have had the Senate respond had President Obama been impeached for Fast and Furious (or any of the other multitude of legally questionable actions taken by his administration)? Would you have the Senate dispose of the matter out of hand upon arrival in that chamber because it was ridiculous on its face? Would you have insisted Eric Holder testify? Be honest now...

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