In response to the letter by Don Treshman ("Beto O'Rourke is deceptive, support Ted Cruz," The Daily News, Sept. 12): Not only is the writer offensive to Congressman O’Rourke and the work he does for his constituents, but he is also offensive to his fellow Texans for making such ridiculous comparisons to the likes of jihadists and Nazis.

The writer should try to educate himself to the facts. Robert O’Rourke has gone by the nickname Beto since he was a child. If he needs proof, the O’Rourke family has a picture of him as a small child with a shirt on that says "Beto" in it. However, I have a feeling this would be more fake news to the writer.

As for Ted “I was born in Canada” Cruz, perhaps he can do what he does best and bring about another government shutdown with his good buddy Donald Trump, and cost the government millions of dollars like he did with his previous stunt when he read "Green Eggs and Ham" while tens of thousands of government workers lost much-needed income.

David Stuart

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Jarvis Buckley

David the workers never lost a dime.

Mike Zeller

I like the story "Green Eggs and Ham", but not enough to vote for "Lyin Ted". From Jan 2013 to Sep 2018, Cruz missed 236 of 1,691 roll call votes, which is 14.0%. This is much worse than the median of 1.5% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving.[thumbdown]

Carlos Ponce

"From Jan 2013 to Sep 2018, Cruz missed 236 of 1,691 roll call votes, which is 14.0%."
That's what happens when you run for President of the United States. For comparison look at other Senators who ran for President:
Senator Barack Obama -
"From Jan 2005 to Oct 2008, Obama missed 314 of 1,300 roll call votes, which is 24.2%."
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/barack_obama/400629
or Senator Marco Rubio -
"From Jan 2011 to Sep 2018, Rubio missed 257 of 2,174 roll call votes, which is 11.8%.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/marco_rubio/412491
or Senator Hillary Clinton -
"From Jan 2001 to Jan 2009, Clinton missed 249 of 2,616 roll call votes, which is 9.5%."
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/hillary_clinton/300022
To be truthful, strip away the non-presidential year run for each candidate and their voting record reaches what Miguelito finds acceptable.
See "Marco Rubio misses a lot of votes. So do most other senators running for president."
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/11/2/9645384/rubio-missing-votes
Now, Senator Bernie Sanders has a decent lifetime record -"From Jan 2007 to Sep 2018, Sanders missed 231 of 3,527 roll call votes, which is 6.5%." But in the election year 2016 Bernie Sanders missed ALL but one Senate roll call vote in 2016.
Interesting note, in 2015, Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Bernie Sanders had the best voting record in the Senate.
Miguelito, would you like toast with your green eggs and ham?

Mike Zeller

"Lyin Ted" was elected to represent the State of Texas. All he cared about was taking his "Dog And Pony Show" on the road, and running for an office he had NO chance of winning. I want a guy who will promote Texas, not himself. Thanks for agreeing with me, that when "Lyin Ted" was running for President, he was not at home representing Texas.

Carlos Ponce

So I guess, you don't want toast.

Don Bette

Perhaps Mr. Stuart should familiarize himself with our form of government: "and cost the government millions of dollars." It costs the TAXPAYERS money whenever a transaction is made by the government. The U.S. government only deals with TAXPAYERS money!

Randy Chapman

Progressives/leftists don't understand the concept of Taxpayer money. In their minds, it's all gubmint money that magically is somehow harvested from "somewhere". One even stated that all government money was Obama's when he was in office.

George Croix

Weren't the thousands of government workers missing much needed income made financially whole after the fact, as usual.
Why, yes, they were...as usual....
And that, as Paul Harvey would have said, is the rest of the story....
For that matter, 80% or better of government workers are unaffected by a 'shutdown', as only what are termed 'non-essential' workers are involved, unless the Admin. at the time redirects resources....like pitching a hissy fit and trying to keep WWII veterans away from the memorial to them.....
Which should make one wonder why 20% of government workers are 'non-essential' in the first place.....why not dump them and let the taxpayers keep that tax money that is certainly not non-essential to them....

Gary Miller

Shutdown? Never happens. Gov. Daily income is enough to keep 85% of government open, all needed open. A shutdown that lasts long enough to identify the part not worth borrowing money to keep is needed. If government was working OK after 3 or 4 month partial shutdown the non essential agencies should be deleted. I suspect it would be more than 20% of the pre shutdown total.

Jim Forsythe

Last time more than 850,000 nonessential government employees were furloughed. In 2015 2,738,000 worked for the federal government.
September 8, 2015
Of the 21,995,000 employed by government in August, 2,738,000 worked for the federal government (including 596,500 who worked for the Postal Service), 5,092,000 worked for state governments, and 14,165,000 worked for local governments.
Last time, this is some of what happened. I was surprised by the numbers of employees furloughed vs. the number of employees.
The United States service academies were affected by the shutdown in various ways. Civilian faculty members were furloughed, and many classes have been canceled. The library at the United States Air Force Academy was closed. The libraries at the United States Naval Academy and the United States Military Academy remained open, but students could not check out books. The library at the United States Military Academy was staffed by the musicians of the West Point Band. Intercollegiate athletics were suspended
Only 9 percent of Internal Revenue Service employees reported to work during the last shutdown. You're still required to pay taxes, but any refunds could potentially be delayed, depending on the extent of a shutdown.
A shutdown affected the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, meaning if you wanted a gun permit, you'll had to wait until the shutdown was over.
The Consumer Product Safety Commission did not investigate or recall products that might cause injuries but do not pose an imminent danger to safety.CPSC furloughed port inspectors who test to make sure that imported products meet safety standards, for instance verifying that children's toys do not contain excessive amounts of lead or that sleepwear meets flammability standards. The Commission furloughed all but 23 of its 540 employees
The Forest Service closed its offices and furloughed the vast majority of its staff, with only some law enforcement and firefighting staff staying on duty. As a result of the furloughs, timber companies were ordered to stop logging operations in the 155 National Forests within seven days.Initially, the agency was able to keep a number of campgrounds and recreation areas open, but as the shutdown extended into its second week, many of those sites were closed as well
The Commerce Department furloughed 40,234 of its 46,420 employees. The United States Patent and Trademark Office planned to stay open for three to four weeks using funds from the fees it collects.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was not able to conduct "in-depth investigations to identify and link outbreaks that may be occurring simultaneously in multiple states" or provide flu surveillance due to the furloughing of 68% of its employees.

The USDA stopped issuing mortgages to families in rural areas,


George Croix

The LAST 'shutdown' was when Sen. Minority Leader Schumer led his pro-illegal alien 2 day shutdown, mostly over a weekend. And quickly retreated when he discovered that his 'support base' for that is largely manufactured by a liberal media and a lot of noisy people who don't know the meaning of the word 'illegal'......
In the last several shutdowns, with the exception of the WWII vets issue, about 99% of the country would not have noticed if not for the TV hyperbole.....

Jim Forsythe

George, my reply was to Gary. He was saying we should shut down the government for 3 or for months and see how it goes. My take is that it would be a big thing because of the number of missing people ( about one third) and the jobs they do, that will not get done.
In no way would I be in favor of a shut down.

George Croix

And mine was to the forum in general posting button....nobody specific.

Jim, if anyone had said 20 years ago that any...any...good could ever come from shutting down PS3B for the better part of three YEARS you and I both would have quickly walked away from them for fear of catching something bad by close exposure.....
But, then it did.....
I'm not sure there's an exact corollary there, but there's NO doubt that government has become a Fat Body, and needs a LOT of diet and workout.....and calling it Big and Beautiful is an exercise in self-deception............
Creating meaningful private sector jobs that people want rather than just endure is the mode we are in now, finally, and that should lead to less dependence on our Uncle, and that should allow some 'dieting' of bloated federal employees....
But, as we both know, 'should' is a very big word, indeed.....
Personally, I think a 'government shutdown' is a lot like an enema...unpleasant, but occasionally needed by some to flush out the ...stuff.....
Mostly, it's just political and media hype, designed to make 'the other guy look bad, and depends on the fixable level of anyone even paying attention......

Carlos Ponce

Jim, the only "shutdown" occurred in jobs considered non-essential. The average Joe would never know the difference.

Jim Forsythe

George, a reduction of jobs could be made without total shut down of all jobs considered non-essential.
A lot of the services that would not be maned during a 'government shutdown' is not what I want to go with out.
I like getting a flu shot with a good chance that it will protect me, because the CDCC had enough people to track what the most likely strain of flu will be. To be able to buy my grandchildren toys, knowing it has a lot less chance of have lead in it paint, because someone is checking for it.
With a 'government shutdown' the USDA would not provide federal inspection of meat, poultry and egg products. The reason this would happen is because a furlough of FSIS inspectors (Food Safety and Inspection Service), would essentially threatening to close down all production, processing and interstate distribution of meat. This is not something I want to happen.
Shortage of lumber, because harvesting of trees on government land would stop.
Not being to get a background check, if I want to buy a gun.
Not getting a refund from the IRS, if I had one coming.
Some of the above actives may only be delayed, but for how long?

If we had a 'government shutdown' for a extended period of time, some of the non-essential people may get reclassified.

George Croix

But, of course, not a SINGLE one of those things HAS to happen, as it's up to each Administration to decide what services are essential and which are not, and allocate resources accordingly.
Note the difference between the last shutdown and the previous one, where the last was designed to minimize impact on citizens and the previous was designed to maximize impact on them.....
I'm pretty sure that under this Admin., you'd see the FDA operating and stuff like the study of bovine flatulence take a hit, instead......
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It's the big difference between progress, and 'progressive'....

Jim Forsythe

George I may be wrong but this is what I found.

George, what I found said that, the final call as who is non-essential is made by Congress. This is not real clear as I only found one place that talked about it. If true I'm not sure the number of votes required to change who is essential or non essential, but since it is dealing with the budget, it may take 60 votes in the Senate. It looks like we may have used the United Nations guidelines to come up with who is essential or nonessential.
Since it is a budget issue, it would require all employees for non-essential services would be out on furlough, meaning they are locked out of work and receive no pay. I do not think the Congress or the President can choose to fund one nonessential service and not all.
Typically, congress passes legislation to fund back pay.

George Croix

Jim, as I recall the Congress precipitates a shutdown by failing to pass a funding bill, usually, if not always, because one side or the other attaches crap to it that has nothing to do with funding, and everything to do with politicing......
I do not recall where but am sure I read that in the event of a shutdown the Administration can allocate AVAILABLE, existing funding as they choose to keep this or that 'open'......it was certainly a topic of discussion even on the network news when the WWII memorial and the old vets issue came up....
Maybe we're all wrong............

Jim Forsythe

George, it looks like in the past, volunteers have kept the memorial's open during a shutdown.
World War II Veterans Force Open WWII Memorial During Shutdown.
But during the Clinton-era shutdown, World War II veterans kept the Pearl Harbor memorial open.

The rules have changed and the following can not happen now, during a shutdown.
In 1995 and 1996 President Bill Clinton and House Speaker Newt Gingrich negotiated vigorously and struck several compromises, such as 75-percent funding plan that lasted more than a month. (Related: US economy boomed during 1995/1996 shutdown)

If congress wants to they could change the rules to be able to fund the park system. Until then, it will be a struggle to fund.
Also The Anti deficiency Act comes into play along with other acts and laws.

Jan 20, 2018.
Sec. Zinke Will Spend The Government Shutdown Ensuring The WWII Memorial, National Parks, Stay Open .

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George Croix

Jim, it was just an example of using a popular government service/attraction as a bludgeon for political reasons, for no other reason but that.
As much as they are popular, though, simple fact is that the national parks are not ESSENTIAL government services, they are attractions, and keeping one or more open would be a courtesy, not a necessity. Exceptions always come in, and I personally exclude from that, and count AS essential, any monument or attraction dedicated to our service personnel...they PAID for it...the hard way......
Your example of the FDA is more important nationally than seeing Mount Rushmore....unless one's vacation is ruined, but then that's a personal issue, not a national one....
NOBODY is going to be happy about their ox getting gored, but it's a little like this Ike Dike thingy....the fact is that nationally strategic refining and chem plant complexes are more improratnt than vacation homes, or even private citizen homes and businesses, and that, is that.....it works, or should work, the same way for any shutdown....EXCEPT for those Vets...imo......

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