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Carlos Ponce

Domenico must not have listened to the Coronavirus Task Force News Conferences.Here's some excerpts from President Trump:

"Our country is in the midst of a great national trial, unlike any we have ever faced before. You all see it. You see it probably better than most. We’re at war with a deadly virus. Success in this fight will require the full absolute measure of our collective strength, love, and devotion. It’s very important. Each of us has the power through our own choices and actions to save American lives and rescue the most vulnerable among us. That’s why we really have to do what we all know is right. Every citizen is being called upon to make sacrifices. Every business is being asked to fulfill its patriotic duty. Every community is making fundamental changes to how we live, work and interact each and every day, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see this going on long into the future when this virus is gone and defeated.""I really believe that shaking hands or not shaking hands, washing hands all the time, staying a little apart. 15 days ago we published our nationwide guidelines to slow the spread of the virus."

Does that sound like downplaying it?

Go back to the end of January when Trump closed incoming travelogs from China. Returning Americans were quarantined. He later extended it to European travel.

Does that sound like downplaying it?

Then we have Joe Biden who called those actions "hysterical xenophobia and fear mongering".

Then we have Nancy Pelosi inviting people to come to Chinatown in the middle of a pandemic.

Does that sound like Democrats were downplaying it? Yes, yes it does.

Mike Zeller

Carlos Ponce must not have listened to Trumps own words confessing what he new about the coronavirus. Recounting a conversation with Chinese President Xi Jinping, Trump told Woodward on Feb. 7 that the coronavirus is “more deadly than your, you know, your — even your strenuous flus.”

“This is more deadly,” he said. “This is five per — you know, this is 5 percent versus 1 percent and less than 1 percent, you know. So, this is deadly stuff.”

“I wanted to always play it down. I still like playing it down,” Trump said on March 19. “Because I don’t want to create a panic.”"We had to show calm," Trump said. "The last thing we can show is panic or excitement or fear or anything else. We had to take care of the situation we were given."Trump said: "You didn't really think it was going to be to the point where it was." But Trump acknowledged to Woodward in February how easily transmissible and deadly the disease was."We have to show leadership," Trump said. "And leadership is all about confidence. And confidence is confidence in our country.

Feb. 26, Trump predicted that “within a couple of days,” the number of Covid-19 infections in the U.S. “is going to be down to close to zero.”

Feb. 28, he said “it’s going to disappear … like a miracle.” March 10, he urged Americans to “just stay calm” because “it will go away,” March 12 he again said “it’s going to go away.”

Carlos Ponce

With people buying out toilet paper and other commodities it is COMMON SENSE not to panic.

"Feb. 26, Trump predicted that “within a couple of days,” the number of Covid-19 infections in the U.S. 'is going to be down to close to zero".” AND IT WAS because he was only referring to a specific group of 15 patients in Washington State. Mike neglects to point that out because it doesn't fit his false narrative.Typical Mike.

And all the other statements were based on what the EXPERTS, the DOCTORS, the SCIENTISTS told him. Democrats tell Trump to LISTEN to the experts, right????? Your candidate Joe says listen to the experts, right????

So what do the EXPERTS say, Mike?

On "The Daily Briefing," host John Roberts asked Fauci if he thought Trump had played down the threat of the virus.

"No, I didn't," Fauci responded. "I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything. I mean in my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had. We related that to him. And when he would go out, I'd hear him discussing the same sort of things. He would often say, 'We just got through with a briefing with the group from the task force,' and would talk about it. So it may have happened, but I have not seen that kind of distortion."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dr-fauci-trump-woodward-downplay-covid-19

Roberts also asked Fauci, head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, whether Trump broke with his advisers in trying to downplay the virus.

"You were there through that whole thing," Roberts said. "Was that the playbook or was that the president just going his own direction?"

"I don't think so, John," Fauci responded. "I don't recall anything different than in our discussions that we had with the president that he said things quite similar publicly."

"I didn't really go over any of the text since it just came out," Fauci told Roberts. "But you know, in my discussions and the discussions of other task force members with the president, we're talking about the reality of what was going on.

"And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him," he went on. "I may not be tuned in to the right thing that they're talking about. But, I didn't see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him, and what he came out publicly and said."

So while President Trump calmly led, Mike Zeller went around with his tinfoil hat telling everyone, "IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD! LET'S PANIC! IT'S EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF!!!!!"

There is NOTHING in Woodward's recordings an informed citizen did not already know. The fact you did not does not surprise. [innocent]

Gary Miller

Fauci Carlos> THE CHOICE? Believe Fauci and Trump or a Reporter with a bias. It may be Trumps travel bans may have halved the death rate in the US. 190,000 or more saved. We learn nothing when we listen to people who know nothing repeating something from reporters who know less than nothing.

Dwight Burns

Sir, your deflection of facts of Donald Trump's lies is in vain. Most Americans, according to most polls, will vote to remove this man, who has proven he is a clear and presant danger to our Democracy.

Carlos Ponce

Another clueless person who believes in polls!

Jack Reeves

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David Shea

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David Smith

Doesnt even warrant a comment

domenico nuckols

Trump continues to play it down, look at the rally held in Michigan last week. Too many people, no masks, and no social distancing. He doesn’t care about the American public. I think he has held six of rallies so far. Would you go?

Trump’s Administration secretly took millions From FDNY’s 9/11 Health Program. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/sept-11-responders-funds-missing-trump_n_5f5ba067c5b62874bc1c5eac . He stood at the Flight 93 memorial parsing the heroes and at the same time taking their health benefits.

An initial rerouting of about $500,000 began in 2016, under the Obama administration. Under President Donald Trump, the withdrawals have accelerated. Yes, Carlos Obama did it too but it doesn’t make it right.

He doesn’t get it.

David Shea

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Carlos Ponce

Hyperbolic at best, domenico. The Treasury Department under US Treasurer Rosa Gumataotao Rios during the Obama administration started this and the process continued under Jovita Carranza. Carranza resigned and the office remains unfilled.The Trump administration's role is merely superficial but Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin is looking into it.

The New York Daily News article that is the basis for the Huffington hit piece is more useful but still hyperbolic when it ties in the president which has nothing to do with it. Where's the problem? According to the NY News "Part of the problem could stem from NYC’s system, in which many departments are all under the same ID number. Somehow, the firefighter treatment program landed in that ignominious basket." Money was withheld to cover “delinquent Medicare Secondary Payer debt” owed by “various entities within New York City."

The problem is now being fixed to separate the "various entities" within NYC. The problem seems to be more New York City's general problem of lumping all Federal funding under one bureaucratic umbrella.

Coote Wright-Broughton

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Carlos Ponce

Are you ready for your FINAL EXAM?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVAT5NS0C4g

domenico nuckols

All religion is in big business

Carlos Ponce

Not true religion, domenico.

Jim Forsythe

On Feb. 7, he privately told Woodward the virus was airborne and deadly.

And despite that, he held six indoor rallies over the next few weeks, with no social distancing measures required.

Trump did not lie about COVID because he feared he would panic Americans.

He lied about COVID for entirely selfish reasons. He knew he was not capable of handling a national catastrophe, and he needed those rallies for his ego.

His need to be venerated far outweighs his concern for the lives of his supporters, or anyone else.

Carlos Ponce

"On Feb. 7, he privately told Woodward the virus was airborne and deadly."

And the Trump administration informed the American Public on January 31, 2020:

"This is the first time in over 50 years that CDC has issued a quarantine order. While we understand this action may seem drastic, our goal today, tomorrow and always continues to be the safety of the American public. While we recognize this is an unprecedented action, we are facing an unprecedented public health threat. And this is one of the tools in our toolbox to mitigate the potential impact of this novel virus on the United States."- Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the CDC

"Determination that a Public Health Emergency Exists -

As a result of confirmed cases of 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV), on this date and after consultation with public health officials as necessary, I, Alex M. Azar II, Secretary of Health and Human Services, pursuant to the authority vested in me under section 319 of the Public Health Service Act, do hereby determine that a public health emergency exists and has existed since January 27, 2020, nationwide." HHS Secretary Alex Azar

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/01/31/801623033/coronavirus-cdc-puts-americans-who-left-wuhan-into-unprecedented-14-day-quaranti

Looks like Jim wasn't paying attention in the class!

Why did he want it toned down? The Democrat reaction to the travel ban.

For example: The “No Ban Act,” introduced by Rep. Judy Chu (D-CA) and co-sponsored by 219 House Democrats:

“This bill imposes limitations on the President’s authority to suspend or restrict aliens from entering the United States and terminates certain presidential actions implementing such restrictions,” a summary of the legislation reads.

"No funds, resources, or fees made available to the Secretary of Homeland Security, or to any other official of a Federal agency, by any Act of Congress for any fiscal year may be used to implement or enforce Presidential Proclamation 9983 … which restricts the entry into the United States of nationals of certain countries."

Gary Miller

Carlos> Said in a different way? Democrats wanted to pass a law to keep Trump from saving lives of citizens. Why would dead citizens be good for Democrats?

Carlos Ponce

January 31, 2020:

On January 31, 2020, I issued Proclamation 9984 (Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons Who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus and Other Appropriate Measures To Address This Risk). I found that the potential for widespread transmission of a novel (new) coronavirus (which has since been renamed “SARS-CoV-2” and causes the disease COVID-19) (“SARS-CoV-2” or “the virus”) by infected individuals seeking to enter the United States threatens the security of our transportation system and infrastructure and the national security. Because the outbreak of the virus was (and is) centered in the People’s Republic of China, I suspended and limited the entry of all aliens who were physically present within the People’s Republic of China, excluding the Special Administrative Regions of Hong Kong and Macau, during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States, subject to certain exceptions.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a component of the Department of Health and Human Services, has determined that the virus presents a serious public health threat and continues to take steps to prevent its spread. But CDC, along with State and local health departments, has limited resources, and the public health system could be overwhelmed if sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus occurred in the United States. Sustained human-to-human transmission has the potential to have cascading public health, economic, national security, and societal consequences.

PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP

For full text see:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-nonimmigrants-certain-additional-persons-pose-risk-transmitting-coronavirus/

Jim, President Trump told us it was a THREAT back in JANUARY! Weren't you paying attention??????????

Paula Flinn

The “panic” Trump worried about was to the stock market, not to the people. He didn’t want the stock market to go down with the dire news. Trump now, doesn’t want to take responsibility for the deathly consequences of “playing it down” for months. And, yet, he is still playing it down. His “base” is still saying the virus is a hoax and will soon disappear. That’s why they go to rallies and neglect to wear masks or social distance from one another.

Remember Herman Cain!

Remember 250,000 positive cases directly traced from the motorcycle rally in South Dakota (500,000 bikers).

Trump “panics” the people all the time! People are tired of the chaos, the lies, the misinformation, and the corruption. Many Republicans, like John Kasich, will be voting for Joe Biden, not because he agrees with him on many issues, but because he can trust him as a leader. Donald Trump has failed the leadership test. He lies so much you cannot trust what he says, and now, what he knows and doesn’t say.

Carlos Ponce

"The 'panic' Trump worried about was to the stock market, not to the people." Wrong again, Paula!

What does the Sturgis motorcycle rally have to do with this? Would you add the uptick in positives wherever there was a protest, peaceful or violent?

And no one cares who Kasick will vote for. He's still mad because his run for president drew little attention.

Herman Cain - the timeline suggests infection AFTER the Tulsa rally.

Gary Miller

Paula> you must be very rich from your practice of reading minds remotely. Telling us what Trump thought instead if what he said or did.

Gary Scoggin

If only she had a secret source like Carlos does.

Carlos Ponce

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Paula Flinn

Only Carlos has that ability to read minds?

Everyone is saying he didn’t want to panic the sick market. He could care less what Gary Miller or Carlos Ponce thinks. Sure enough, when people found out, the stock market took a serious dive. Trump sparks chaos everyday. We are all tired of his “panic” over getting rid of everything Obama, particularly Obamacare and environmental regulations. Trump’s jealousy of Obama is obsessive and childish. I agree with Trump’s ex-lawyer, Michael Cohen who committed crimes for President Trump.

Carlos Ponce

I don't "read minds", Paula.

"Trump sparks chaos everyday." No he does not. But don't let that stop you from voting Biden. When the final tally is taken you will see Trump winning re-election.

James Stephenson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evoDsSslz18

Joel Martin

That is not true. They have only traced a little over 200 infections from the rally.

Bill Broussard

Joel. What are you talking about?

Gary Miller

Jim. Supporters knew masks and social distancing were supposed (?) to be safer believed the risk, if any, was smaller than their support for the best president they ever voted for. MAGA

Bill Broussard

Why not both Gary? Seems to me you could do both if one wanted to support the president but save grandma and grandpa. You are making the case that no mask has taken on the aura if 1938 armbands. If so, what our president told Woodward in February is very real and very costly.

Carlos Ponce

What the president told Woodward is a repetition of what he said at the Coronavirus task force press briefings. Were you asleep in class, Bill?

Gary Scoggin

Bill, doing both is the equivalent to walking and chewing gum at the same time. Too dangerous.

Don Schlessinger

Not sure what the author and his friends are worried about. In a little less than 4 months Mr. Trump will be gone, riots will end and they will be in Socialist heaven.

domenico nuckols

Hopefully Trump will be gone and the riots will stop. Socialist heaven, I don’t think so. If and I say if Medicare for all becomes a reality and they follow the Medicare business model most Americans could not afford it. Example my Medicare costs. Part B (Doctor visits, Labs, etc.) premium $144, Part D (Drugs) $34, Supplemental Insurance to Part B $156 a month. I don’t see Socialist heaven.

Gary Miller

Dominico> Ya gotta dream. Nightmares are dreams I think.

Gary Miller

Dominico> Biden's VP promises the riots will increase if Biden wins. Says they will be needed to push the plan.

Bill Broussard

Where did you see that Gary? I’d really like to read that.

Carlos Ponce

The Late Show with Stephen Colbert:

"But they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop, and this is a movement, I'm telling you. They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop. They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day.Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not." Kamala Harris

She's talking about protests. Now Kamala defenders insist she is talking about "peaceful" protests. If this excluded non-peace protests why did she say, "everyone beware"? I read "on both levels" as "peaceful protests" and "not so peaceful" protests". How do you read it, Bill Broussard?

Bailey Jones

Here ya go, Bill. I don't want to brag, but I've gotten pretty good at tracking down Gary's stories - I have a contact on the "inside" who goes by the moniker G-Anon that keeps me "in the no" - nsense.

The story is here - https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/kamala-harris-about-riots-theyre-not-gonna-stop-and-they-should-not/

I quote, somehow with a straight face, "WASHINGTON, DC – In a chilling interview with Stephen Colbert, smiling Democrat Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris basically promised continued violence from Black Lives Matter in this country for the foreseeable future."

Yes - a CHILLING interview with Stephen Colbert. But this is old news, from way back in June:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kamala-harris-lack-news-coverage-black-lives-matter-protests-1299205

Quoting again - "California Sen. Kamala Harris spoke about the recent decrease in news coverage of the Black Lives Matter protests when she virtually visited The Late Show on Wednesday.

Host Stephen Colbert said that he noticed the media has seemingly moved away from covering the protests across the country that began following the death of George Floyd.

The senator agreed that there has been a lack of reporting about the protests. "They're not going to stop," she said of the protests. "This is a movement."

"They're not going to stop before Election Day in November, and they're not going to stop after Election Day," Harris continued. "Everyone should take note of that on both levels, that they're not going to let up and they should not and we should not."

Harris said that the protests must continue in order to make a difference and shared that she made a "conscious decision" to become a prosecutor because she doesn't know one Black man that has never been racially profiled.

"The only way we're going to truly achieve change is when there are people in the system who are willing or pushing to do it, and when there are those folks who are outside of the system demanding it," she said.

"Some of the success that we've been able to achieve around criminal justice reform would not have happened in recent years were it not for Black Lives Matter," Harris added. "These movements provide a counterforce to get us to where we need to be."

"The first protest I ever attended was in a stroller when my parents were marching in the '60s," she said. "It's kind of something I've done my entire life."

Noting that her parents were politically active, Harris said that she learned that the greatest movements in the country "have been born out of protests" and "understanding the power of the people to take to the streets and force their government to address what is wrong, the inequities, the inequalities, the unfairness."

"Almost every one of those marches has been about one fundamental ideal in our country, which is equal justice under law," she said. "And fighting to make sure that we have a government and a country that, at least every few steps, gets closer to achieving that ideal." While the United States has not yet reached equality for all, Harris said that protests "are the catalyst to getting there."

The senator added that attending recent protests in Washington, D.C., gave her hope, saying that she saw "people who seemingly have nothing in common, who know they have everything in common, people of every race, age, gender together and seeing the commonality."

That's the kind of talk that's going to get her elected. Power to the people!

Carlos Ponce

Bailey's source excludes "everyone beware". Tell you what, here's the video which includes "everyone beware" said by Senator Harris:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn6n8kyAoV8

"everyone beware"

"everyone beware"

"everyone beware"

"everyone beware"

If "peaceful, why "beware"?

beware definition: To be on guard against; be cautious of, to be cautious; exert caution,

Jack Cross

Bill here is where Kamila Harris said the riots will continue up to and after the elections. and she laughed about it.

https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/08/28/kamala-harris-laughs-as-she-warns-that-violent-riots-will-continue/

Carlos Ponce

Donald Trump will not be president - at the end of his second term in January 2025.

Bill Broussard

Had to skip one to answer Carlos. I read it a a misspoken comment and a failed opportunity to communicate

Bill Broussard

Thank you Jack! Took me right to the document. Thanks again!

Connie Patterson

What a joke!

Jim Forsythe

The 30% that supports Trump no matter what, do not care about what Trump said on the Recordings.

Nixon and Trump had a meal together at Tony's in Houston, after Nixon left office. Did they discuss the Nixon tapes and Bob Woodward?

Trump wanted the interviews to be recorded, so he knew that he was being recorded.

If you read the transcripts. be shore to read the part about the Generals, and what they said.

When a President fails to notify the Nation of a problem because he thinks we can not handle the truth, we have a lack of leadership.

Is Trumps moral compass what you want in a President?

We all will have a chance to vote for or against Trump in the near future.

If you want 4 more years of what Trump does, vote for him.

If you want a bigger divide in the people of the USA, vote Trump.

But remember he will be a lame duck that will not have to worry about getting reelected, so what he has done so far is just a start.

We all know the list of what Trump has done, and if you think what he has done is good for all , vote Trump.

Also remember that no matter what, he will not be impeached and removed from office.

Do you really want to chance what he may do, if given 4 more years unleashed.

Carlos Ponce

In reality, Jim, only the 30% who hate Trump give a care what's on the recordings. I see Jim is among them.

THERE IS NOTHING NEW ON THE RECORDINGS! Only "new" to the ignorant who get their "news" from Leftist media.

Jim Forsythe

As expected, the 30% that closes their eyes has shown up.

it is amazing that some call what was on the recording as ignorant, as it was the President that said the words.

It's not second hand, but straight from Trumps mouth.

Trump went so far as calling Bob Woodward, to give him the information in the recordings.

Carlos Ponce

Jim what the President told Woodward is a repetition of what he said at the Coronavirus task force press briefings. Jim was not paying attention. When the press briefing started, Jim said "Grrrr, Grrr! ORANGE MAN BAD!!!" and you chose not to see it. If you had, you would realize there is nothing new here.

Jim Forsythe

You have already stated that you will not read the book. Have you listened to the audio?

Trump makes it clear to most people, but you are not most people! You are a thirty percenter.

I have never said "Grrrr, Grrr! ORANGE MAN BAD!!!

Carlos Ponce

No, but you wrote it!

Gary Miller

JIM. MAGA

Bill Broussard

On his latest unmasked stop in Michigan:

"Autoworkers in Michigan and elsewhere aren’t stupid. They know the story of their industry over the past decade. Trump’s bid to claim credit for auto jobs recalls the Chico Marx line from the movie “Duck Soup”: “Who you gonna believe — me, or your own eyes”

Recent polls suggest that voters may be increasingly skeptical of Trump’s self-proclaimed mastery over the economy. The “5 or even 6 percent” annual growth he promised in 2017 never materialized; his best year eked out 3 percent growth, and he will be very lucky if he finishes four years with any net growth at all, given the current slump. What has grown — to an extent previously unseen in peacetime — is the federal deficit, which has deepened every year under Trump. Result: The economy today is more juiced by federal debt than at any time since World War II. He promised to eliminate trade deficits; he has grown them instead.

Those polls may mean voters are learning a lesson that Trump’s private-sector lenders learned long ago. You don’t want this guy anywhere near your business. Over his long and bankruptcy-strewn career, he has promised to work wonders for Atlantic City tourism. Not. He boasted of revolutionizing East Coast air travel. Not. He was going to corner the fashion modeling industry, rebuild New York’s West Side and teach the next generation of real estate moguls. Not, not and not.

Trump has led the planet in the production of just one commodity: hot air."

Personal comment: While I really liked Jim Yarbrough, I said to my fellow citizens when he was elected: "People do what they do. When Jim finishes his two terms, I suspect we will have one or two new buildings, projects that have cost over-runs and debt". We do

Donald Trump has financed almost everything in his life with debt. Even when his plans sour, it's the debtors that get the shaft..not Trump.

People do what they do.

Carlos is just peeved that he never got the chance to attend Trump University and learn how to debt finance real estate before the City and State shut it down because it was fraudulent.

Here's a short course my man--max out your credit cards and "poof," your a graduate.

Carlos Ponce

Bill Broussard, when Trump wins re-election, you'll have four more years to voice your alt-Left views.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. What is an alt-left. I honestly do not know.

Carlos Ponce

"What is an alt-left." Look in the mirror.

Jim Forsythe

Is #AltLeft? Opposite of #AltRight? Opposite of bigotry, hatred, violence, group supremacy?

Carlos Ponce

You're right, Jim! Alt-Right is the Opposite of bigotry, hatred, violence, group supremacy.

Mike Zeller

[thumbup] Bill Broussard "You the Man" "Drop the Mic" ....... [thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

Looks like someone dropped the Mike - on his head.

Bill Broussard

“ Earthquake means destruction; dictator means destruction! In the case of earthquake, you need a strong building; in the case of dictator, you need an educated rational mind, because an irrational ignorant mind always serves the dictator!”

Mehmet Murat ildan

Dan Freeman

Yesterday was the nineteenth anniversary of 9-11. Combining today and yesterday, we again top the deaths from 9-11. Clinton lied about sex. George Bush was misguided. Trump is mendacious. Who has killed the most Americans? Why do not the Trump folks get it? Do they really think BLM and Antifa are more of a threat than the Man from Tang? Vote him out so he can follow the rest of his minions to jail for crimes against humanity.

domenico nuckols

Great Dan

Carlos Ponce

Dan Freeman, Trump hasn't killed anybody. Looks like you've entered a fantasy zone if you think he has.

Bill Broussard

Your right about that Carlos. As of MARCH the virus is a Democrat’s hoax. Blood pressure killed the 190000 I guess but it couldn’t be the virus. Besides, it so gonna disappear any day now.

Carlos Ponce

"As of MARCH the virus is a Democrat’s hoax." Trump never called the virus a hoax:

From Liberal Snopes:

What's True

During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

What's False

Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

Comparing the Chinese Virus to the flu is not outlandish.

"Overall, the CDC estimates that 12,000 and 61,000 deaths annually since 2010 can be blamed on the flu. Globally, the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that the flu kills 290,000 to 650,000 people per year."

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year

Jim Forsythe

Trump the fortunate son!

President Donald Trump led a campaign rally in Freeland, Michigan, and walked off Air Force One to the 1969 song "Fortunate Son" by Creedence Clearwater Revival.

The song points to the wealthy and influential families who were able to get their sons out of the Vietnam War draft.

John Fogerty, the rock musician who was a member of Creedence Clearwater Revival and wrote "Fortunate Son," addressed the Trump campaign's use of the song.

"Recently, the president has been using my song 'Fortunate Son' for his political rallies, which I find confounding, to say the least," Fogerty said.

Fogerty also sheds light on the meaning behind the lyrics, which include:

"Some folks are born silver spoon in hand / Lord, don't they help themselves, no" and "It ain't me, it ain't me / I ain't no millionaire's son."

"I wrote the song back in 1969 at the height of the Vietnam War," Fogerty said. "By the time I wrote the song, I had already been drafted and had served in the military. And I've been a lifelong supporter of our guys and gals in the military, probably because of that experience, of course.

Fogerty continued saying: "Back in those days, we still had a draft, and something I was very upset about was the fact that people of privilege, in other words, rich people, or people that had position, could use that to avoid the draft and not be taken into the military. I found that very upsetting that such a thing could occur, and that's why I wrote 'Fortunate Son.'"

The song's opening verses: "Some folks are born, made to wave the flag / Ooh, their red, white and blue / And when the band plays 'Hail to the Chief' / Ooh, they point the cannon at you."

Fogerty compared the beginning lines of "Fortunate Son" to Trump using federal troops to remove protesters from a June demonstration Lafayette Square in Washington, DC, so he could stand in front of St. John's Church and hold a bible for a photo opportunity.

"It's a song I could've written now, so I find it confusing, I would say, that the president has chosen to use my song for his political rallies, when in fact, it seems like he is the fortunate son," Fogerty said.

Charles Douglas

Life is like a box of chocolates - and Life is about decisions! Everybody did not go down to the local recruiting station and sign up to go to Vietnam to fight in service to America! So what? Everybody did not go to a Law Enforcement Academy, or a Fire Fighter Academy and put in the efforts to graduate then become a First Responder to serve their communities! Again, SO WHAT? Trump did not, and neither did JOE THE RACIST! Neither did the only clean cut, only articulate, nice looking BLACK MAN ...RACIST JOE, ever knew! So what? What is the point here? I know people who won't give a dime to people begging on a corner! SO WHAT? What do all that have to do with Trump? When November 3rd gets here I cannot imagine all the crying, lying, and excuse making which will be flying around in America. Probably so much it will eradicate the virus in the ..right out of this country!

Gary Scoggin

And some people had a doctor certify that they had bone spurs and compared their sexual adventures to Viet Nam.

Carlos Ponce

So now Dr. Gary Scoggins is questioning another doctor's diagnosis. Oh that's right, GARY SCOGGINS IS NOT A DOCTOR!!!!!

Gary Scoggin

I wasn’t questioning it, just repeating it. But you sure seem defensive about it.

Carlos Ponce

Oh, so Gary Scoggin repeats gossip.[rolleyes]

Gary Scoggin

No, not gossip. I got it from my secret unamed wellplaced source. Like yours. Maybe even the same newsletter.

Bill Broussard

That’s hilarious.

Jim Forsythe

Trump wants people to vote twice, which is a felony!

"NORTH CAROLINA: To make sure your Ballot COUNTS, sign & send it in EARLY. When Polls open, go to your Polling Place to see if it was COUNTED. IF NOT, VOTE!" Trump wrote on Twitter Saturday.

"Your signed Ballot will not count because your vote has been posted. Don't let them illegally take your vote away from you!"

Twitter flagged Trump's tweet, placing a "public interest notice" on it for "violating our Civic Integrity Policy, specifically for encouraging people to potentially vote twice."

"NORTH CAROLINA: Do NOT do what the President directs. To make sure your ballot COUNTS, sign and send it in EARLY. Then track it ONLINE with BALLOTTRAX," Stein tweeted, along with a link to the app. "Do NOT vote twice (it's a felony), or waste your time, or unnecessarily risk exposure to more people."

domenico nuckols

Where is Maxwell Smart when we need to fight chaos

Carlos Ponce

Maxwell Smart fought against KAOS, not chaos.

domenico nuckols

I know

domenico nuckols

Same away you spell it

Carlos Ponce

"Same away you spell it" Can you please explain that phrase? We don't speak dominicoese.

Carlos Ponce

That's not voting twice, Jim.

domenico nuckols

That came from N.C. Secretary of State warning people not to get in trouble

domenico nuckols

Trump will leave this country in KOAS on his way to Rikers Island for a be long vacation

Carlos Ponce

Silly domenico! Do you really think Trump's going to visit you at Riker's?

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, go ahead a try what Tramp suggested. For everyone else, please do not vote twice.

"Per the Texas Election Code, knowingly voting or even attempting to vote twice in the same election is a felony.

And if you did complete and mail back your mail-in ballot, then you cannot show up to vote in person. "

You can be prosecuted just for attempting to vote twice," said Travis County Clerk Dana DeBeauvoir. "This is a very serious Texas law."

Illegal voting, is a 2nd degree felony in Texas

NOVEMBER 08, 2016: A man was arrested in Fort Bend County, Texas for attempting to vote twice Tuesday, the county sheriff’s office announced in a tweet.

The voter claimed he was working for Donald Trump and that he was simply testing the voting system, the sheriff’s office said. Arrest: We can confirm he was arrested for attempting to vote a second time. Claimed he worked for Trump and was testing the system.

Can you vote twice during the presidential election? No, you can't vote twice during the upcoming election. It's actually illegal to do so, as Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the North Carolina State Board of Elections explained. "It is illegal to vote twice in an election," she said. In fact, according to North Carolina law, it can become a "Class I felony"

President Trump encouraged supporters to vote by mail and vote in person, but voting or attempting to vote twice is illegal and a felony.

Carlos Ponce

I'll try it. Trump never suggests vote twice but to check if your ballot went through.

Jim Forsythe

"NORTH CAROLINA: Do NOT do what the President directs. To make sure your ballot COUNTS, sign and send it in EARLY. Then track it ONLINE with BALLOTTRAX," Stein tweeted, along with a link to the app. "Do NOT vote twice (it's a felony), or waste your time, or unnecessarily risk exposure to more people."

Carlos Ponce

Oh, AG Josh Stein is a Democrat. Are you saying stupidity runs in the party, Jim?

Bill Broussard

I’m really beginning to think you’re one of those QAnon folks, Carlos, who think there’s a hidden message in everything the President says and ordinary folks like the North Carolina Secretary if State just don’t understand the hidden and deep meaning of his words.

Carlos Ponce

Until it was brought up in these forums the only Q I heard of was played by John de Lancie on Star Trek: The Next Generation.

There's no hidden message in what Trump says, but it does take intelligence to understand.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, is this not what you posted earlier. Straight from QAnon.

President Donald Trump has once again amplified a bogus coronavirus misinformation campaign -- this time by retweeting a QAnon supporter’s false claim against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention that only 6% of recorded COVID-19 deaths are actually due to the disease, while the other 94% are falsified. While this conspiracy theory isn’t new, Trump has amplified and legitimized the false 6% narrative, and it is now spreading across major social media platforms while QAnon accounts celebrate and the CDC suffers.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, is this not what you posted earlier." Not quite.

CDC does report only 6% of cases are Virus only but that comes from the CDC, not your Qanon friend.

"The CDC released new data that depicts how many Americans who have died from COVID-19 also had contributing conditions.

Only 6% of COVID-19 deaths have the virus as the only cause mentioned, according to the report, revealing that 94% who died from coronavirus also had other 'health conditions and contributing causes'.”

https://nbc-2.com/news/2020/08/31/cdc-report-shows-94-of-covid-19-deaths-in-u-s-had-contributing-conditions/

"Comorbidities

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities,"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR3-wrg3tTKK5-9tOHPGAHWFVO3DfslkJ0KsDEPQpWmPbKtp6EsoVV2Qs1Q#Comorbidities

Carlos Ponce

Is Jim stating the CDC and QAnon are one and the same??????[scared]

Jim Forsythe

Trump has amplified and legitimized the false 6% narrative, and it is now spreading across major social media platforms while QAnon accounts celebrate and the CDC suffers.

Charles Douglas

OG Gary> WHAT? Are you chiming in and saying you did that OG? If not that, then what did you do? My point was ..many people have many views, and ..others like me, WHO did volunteer to serve in Hell, are not so judgemental as to look down our noses at others who occupied themselves with other things instead of SIGNING UP, no matter what those other things were! Different people make different decisions! How did JOE the RACIST missed serving? I will tell you, he got deferments out of his rear end, until he could not, then he got SOME DOCTOR to help him with 1-Y deferment for Adolescent Asthma!!!!! How much did Racist Joe pay for his fix? What about Obama? See Democrats are good at the art of diversion & getting others to look the other way! This is how they have successfully Boogle-Jived African-Americans all these decades! I will stop right there, because it would seems that you are siding with those who are casting stones at a man ( Trump ) when they did not hold their hands up to voluntarily go serve themselves,.....[wink]

domenico nuckols

Together Q and Agent Smart will save us. Just like drinking Trumps Kool Aid

domenico nuckols

End of the day Trump should resign and have a nice vacation on Rikers Island N.Y.

Carlos Ponce

CONTROL agent "Q" was played by Edward Platt on Get Smart. CONTROL assigned letters prior to numbers. When Platt was demoted from Chief, he resorted to his original spy designation.

Edward Platt died in 1974. Don Adams died in 2005.

Carlos Ponce

What would have happened had President Trump sounded a warning about the Chinese virus early? Democrats would have claimed Trump was trying to distract from his impeachment trial in the Senate and Adam Schiff would have filed more impeachment charges.

domenico nuckols

Let’s let the election decide. Carlos you drink to much of the kool aid. The only thing you will hear from me is registering voters. You can only vote once any where.

Carlos Ponce

I don't drink "kool-aid". When Trump is re-elected, what will domenico do?

Charles Douglas

Mr. Ponce> I agree! Also they would have more than likely called him worse than Xenophobic....adding that he was prejudiced against men and women "OF COLOR" ...( their favorite subject ) ...and that he was also RACIST! I am well informed of the Democratic-Progressive playbook! I studied it for Many years, from a child to manhood! One of their favorite PLAYS is to ALWAYS charge the other side with doing exactly what they are doing themselves!

Bill Cherry

So as far as you are concerned, it would be proper to yell FIRE in a dark theater of people.

domenico nuckols

Thanks we taked

Jack Cross

Bill, I don't understand your point? Besides the sayings about yelling fire in a crowded theater was a standard that stood for many years, it was part of the American Culture and everyone knew what it meant, but American Culture and free speech don't exists today. Political Correctness replace it. Celebrating diversity and multi culturist replaced Americanism. Disrespecting the National Anthem and the Flag has no penalty. it is ok for a Muslim congress woman to call the President of the United States a M Fer. There is no penalty for Maxine Waters to tell supporters, get in their face, don't let them sleep and they did, running people out of restaurants.

Just this week, leftist thugs terrorized elderly people in a restaurant. The thugs took a bite out of their steak and put it back on their plate.

Some of you don't seem to have a problem that everyone of Muller's lawyers investigating Trump cleaned their cell phones breaking the law just like Hillary.

As to the Obama/Biden administration, Jim comey and all the crimes investigating Trump. I guess its OK if its a republican who is being wronged.

I guess it is OK for joe Biden to sell influence and enrich his whole family,

Of course, thats not worth looking into.

I suspect some of you will find every thing I said false because I am a 88 year old Korea veteran and a deplorable.

Just remember, Its not republicans, burning cities, looting, attacking people shooting dozens of people every week including children in democrat run cities. I guess its ok if a black person kills other black kids. Those live I guess don't matter

Please don't overlook the fact that this illegal spying and trying to frame Trump began before he tool office and then the muller investigation purpose was to cover up the Obama/ Biden Administration crimes.

How is any of this going to make any one's lives matter? If anyone thinks getting rid or Trump is going to make things better for the African American community, I think they are in for a brprise, and that is sad

Paula Flinn

“I guess it’s ok for Joe Biden to sell influence and enrich his whole family.”

https://apnews.com/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727

Trump promises to save ZTE after Ivanka Trump gets many (18) trademarks in China, according to the NYT. I didn’t see any Republican concern over that!

Carlos Ponce

The referenced article was written in 2018. A lot has happened between US and China relations hence. But Biden and the Democrats have promised to renew and restore relations with China. Goodbye American jobs.....

August 26, 2020

"A deep study of the Democratic platform tells us the party will continue to regard China as the top competitor, but it will not seek a cold war as Trump does."

https://www.chinausfocus.com/foreign-policy/inside-bidens-china-policy

Carlos Ponce

By the way, China is stockpiling commodities.

"Meanwhile, here is something to study. China has announced it plans to boost its strategic commodities reserves to assuage anxiety over energy and food security. Starting in 2021, it will make what Bloomberg calls “mammoth” purchases of crude, strategic materials, and farm goods, officials apparently say. This is being done to ensure China can ride out any repeat of this year’s supply disruptions, or a deterioration in trade relations with the US, for example."

To assuage anxiety or in anticipation of something else? Will the US accept another "Ooops!" from China?

Jim Forsythe

China has been stockpiling commodities. This is not new.. Did Trump not negated a deal for China to buy more of our farm products?

Below is from 3/21/2018

China has: 47% of the world’s residual supply of wheat --40% of the world’s residual supply of corn,

66% of rice--46% of cotton --22% of the residual supply of soybeans

Stockpiling these commodities is “depressing prices for every other farmer across the globe,” Doud said. This oversupply saturates other markets, as well. “This is a problem,” Doud said. “A big problem we are dealing with at the USTR.” Gregg Doud is the chief agricultural negotiator for the U.S. trade representative.

. Bloomberg News reported in April that the government (China) had set a target of holding oil stockpiles equivalent to 90 days of net imports, which could eventually be expanded to as much as 180 days when including commercial reserves.

United States of America crude oil reserves was at level of 10,001.45 thousand barrels per day in May 2020.

In May 2020, crude oil reserves for China was 3,876 thousand barrels per day.

Carlos Ponce

That's okay, Jim. You keep believing the Chinese have no ulterior motive in stockpiling.[rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

They have been, under Trumps watch.

Carlos Ponce

That's okay, Jim. You keep believing the Chinese have no ulterior motive in stockpiling. [rolleyes][rolleyes]

Craig Mason

And all the while Putin plays Trump like a fiddle. Face it our president is a Russian asset. If he is elected to a second term I am afraid we may be come a small colony in a large Russian empire.

Carlos Ponce

Looks like Putin lives in Craig Mason's mind.

Paula Flinn

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/business/ivanka-trump-china-trademarks.amp.html

Jim Forsythe

All under Trumps watch.

Carlos Ponce

Trump wears a Rolex and Patek Philippe watch.

Carlos Ponce

Paula check the pre-pandemic date 2018/05/28 on the article. No Ivanka trademarks after what China did. Old news, now water under the bridge. POOF! GONE!

Carlos Ponce

Hillary had her phones destroyed with a hammer. Team Mueller had more than a dozen government issued phones either destroyed or wiped clean. If this doesn't tell you of a cover up then you have got to be the among the stupidest people on Earth.

Gary Scoggin

What were the data retention policies that Mueller's team were working under? Did they follow those policies? Unless we know the answer to that we don't know if what they did was appropriate or not. Until then, I'll remain "one of the stupidest people on earth."

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, what do you do with your old cellphones and computer hard drives?

I hope you disable them.

Cellphones

Remove the SIM card and memory card.

Encrypt your device first, then perform a factory reset which "Restore Factory Settings.

One of the surest ways is using a hammer after the above steps.

Computers

Use the "Reset This PC" feature to securely erase everything on the computer. Info at this point can still be retrieved.

Use program such as DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke).

Remove your hard drive and take a rare earth magnet to it. Then physically dismantle it with a screwdriver and use a hammer.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, what do you do with your old cellphones and computer hard drives?" I never owned a cell phone and the computer hard drives are kept in storage. With an adapter I can access some useful information from them that doesn't clutter my current Dell. Sort of like a "Time Capsule".[beam]

The problem with Team Mueller, these were Government owned cell devices, not personal.

In a related SCOTUS Case, City of Ontario, California, et al. v. Quon, et al., 130 S. Ct. 2619 (2010), ruled the user of a government issued device must allow the issuing entity access to the device and its contents. Destroying the device or erasing its contents goes against SCOTUS rulings that the contents be made accessible.

If for instance it was Lisa Page's PERSONAL cell phone the government could not access contents without a court order. But the device belonged to the government.

In a similar situation a student may complain about school authorities searching a school issued locker but has no legal grounds to stop it.

Jim Forsythe

Until it comes out in court, you are just guessing. What is the procedures for his group. Do they delete as they go or after so many days? As Gary said, "What were the data retention policies" ?

Several members of the Trump campaign deleted emails and other electronic communications before Special Counsel Robert Mueller was able to see them, according to the censored version of the Mueller report released on Thursday. According to the report, "some of the individuals we interviewed or whose conduct we investigated — including some associated with the Trump campaign — deleted relevant communications or communicated during the relevant period using applications that feature encryption or that do not provide for long-term retention of data or communications records."

Carlos Ponce

City of Ontario, California, et al. v. Quon, et al., 130 S. Ct. 2619 (2010).

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1332.pdf

" Even assuming that Quon had a reasonable expectation of privacy in his text messages, the search was reasonable under both O’Connor approaches, the plurality’s and JUSTICE SCALIA’s."

To put it simply if the government issues an electronic device to a government employee, the government has access to the information on the device. Destroying the device or obliteration the information on it after the device was requested is obstruction.

Keith Gray

Jim Forsythe.... that is the weakest thing I have read in any social media. That must be why I see soooooo many claw hammers at Best Buy.

Jim Forsythe

Keith, if you want total protection, those are the steps . All my used Hard drives and cell phones i use a hammer plus the steps I outlined. What do you do with your old hard drives? Hope you do not just toss them out. It is weak not to protect your data. If you do not use a hammer, please use a a rare earth magnet.

No special hammer required.

Jim Forsythe

If the drive is not operational, you can't run any of these software packages on it. Physical destruction is probably your best option. Government agencies often use shredders to accomplish this. A do-it-yourself favorite is to make many holes through the drive with a drill press. Please wear safety glasses when following these instructions: Apply sledgehammer. Repeat.

Carlos Ponce

"All my used Hard drives and cell phones i use a hammer" That explains a lot about Jim Forsythe. I think you've been watching "Mission:Impossible" too much.[ohmy]

Jim Forsythe

I'm not going to store my old hard drives. I will store info on thumb drives that take up little room.

A hard drive shredder is about $20,000 and a hammer will do the job.

Carlos Ponce

it's your hard drive. You do what you want. BAM! BAM! BAM!

Keith Gray

Jim I'm really not worried about anything someone might want to take... no personal info on them, and unless they want to know electrical information... well they can find that in any ole library... but, I'm not a democrat.

Jim Forsythe

Personal protection has no party. Most people do, things like pictures.

Ted Gillis

Jack, Rick Perry attempted to enrich himself and his gas industry friends too, that is until Rudy and his accomplices foiled it for them by trying to pin corruption allegations on Joe Biden’s son. The heat got too hot, so Rick folded his cards and went home, waiting for it blow over.

Charles Douglas

Notice that the LEFT is always going to accuse the other side of doing what they are doing. They accused Trump of consorting with other nations when BARACK Obama was caught on a live MIC, which he was not aware of, sending a message to PUTIN ...setting up a plan to sell America out! Right after his "ELECTION" ..was solidified, Putin invaded the Ukraine, and TOOK CRIMEA, a warm water port RUSSIA depends on for national security! What did BIDEN & OBAMA do? They sent the UKRAINE blankets and can goods ( C or K Rations )! Hilliary CROOKED, was seen on National TV looking stupid with some button with the wrong words attached to it ....trying to reset a love relationship with the RUSSIANS! Then ...they concocted this expensive, drawn-out FAKE investigation trying to FRAME Trump for conspiring with Russia, which is what they were doing all along! Joe Biden, along with his Clean Cut, Articulate, Nice Looking Black Friend, has uprooted, and sent thousands and thousands of American jobs, to places like CHINA, MEXICO, INDIA, CANADA, & JAPAN, causing thousands of factories and American businesses to close down! They use to call RACIST Joe, " LUNCH BUCKET" JOE! He was supposed to be for the working middle class, but he and his family are Filthy Rich from selling AMERICANS out to other countries! Obama is one of the worst! He and Joe were a good match, they both put the screws to Americans, and most especially.. BLACK AMERICANS! There were more African-Americans homeless, jobless, and on government assistance doing Obama's terms in office than any other in history! Our government is infiltrated with Radical Traitors who do not love America, but are intent on tearing it down, and tranforming it into mediocrity! People like Ilhan Omar, came to America as a refugee, scared and hungry, ...now that she has eaten from the land of plenty, and grown fat and flourishing, she now thinks America is the worst place on earth! She wants to tear it down to nothing, while she grows rich and prosperous! AOC is another one, and that fool BETO O'ROURKE, can't leave him out! The Democrats wants big government... with a special Rich, Ruling Class at the top, majority underlings barely getting by in the middle, and African-Americans on the bottom! That is how they see America!

Jarvis Buckley

If Trump would resign , our country would go to hell in a hand basket!! Keep spewing your left wing idealism. Trump will keep making America

Greater each day.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Buckner > [thumbup][thumbup] .. Ten ways to Sunday!!

Jack Cross

How can anyone ignore the incredible damage done by Democrats’ decision to reject the legitimacy of the Trump presidency.

Having never accepted his election, they resisted and tried to destroy him. They weaponized the Justice Department and the FBI, CIA and State Department, and enlisted the left-leaning media — to paint Trump as unfit, unworthy and even a Russian agent.

It reached rock bottom in the impeachment fiasco, where they tried to undo 2016 and prevent Trump from being on the ballot this year.

These were the dirtiest tricks imaginable, and they haven’t stopped.

Imagine if Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer had acted as responsible opposition leaders starting in 2017 instead of surrendering to the mob.

They would have found a president eager to negotiate on almost ¬everything. Trump prides himself on being a dealmaker and loves nothing more than a signing ceremony.

Pelosi and Schumer could have gotten much of what they wanted. Such as rising wages for poor and middle-class families and record low unemployment for black and Latino workers, were things Democrats always said they wanted to achieve.

But early on Pelosi and Schumer and the party establishment decided they would not make deals with Trump and would not even seriously negotiate on most issues. To do so, they concluded, would legitimize him — So they abdicated their responsibility to the nation in exchange for partisan power.

Gary Scoggin

You are right, Jack. It’s the worst behavior we’ve had in Congressional leadership since the days of Mitch McConnell.

Jack Cross

Gary, Criminal acts that I factual quoted in my post have zero to do with Mitch Mc Commel. We have the head of the FBI Comey, setting up the president, leaking to the press to get a damaging false narrative into the news. Signing off on a Fiser investigation that he knew was a fraud. one of his FBI agents changing the wording presented to the judge that exonerated Carter Page ,changing it to make him look guilty. You can support who you want, but you are putting politics before honesty and justice when you don't care that government was illegibly used to go against American citizens, Its not conservative congresspersons who tell supporters get in their face, don't let them eat. And that is what is happening. Its not Republicans who say these protests are going to continue after the election and they should, Thats Kamila Harris who said that. Its not republicans who met with Bernie Sanders and signed on to his socialist agenda. Thats Joe Biden. its not Republicans who said they are going to give free health care to illegals, that was Joe Biden and every democrat candidate. The policy differences plus the record of success between these two candidates could never be clearer. Donald Trump has done more in 3 years than Joe Biden did in 47. While Trump was building a large successful business and advancing opportunities for Americans, Joe Biden was selling influence and enriching his family.

Bill Broussard

Jarvis. If trump resigns it goes to Pence so I doubt there would be much change.

Gary Scoggin

It would be worse.we would’ve governed by a competent theocrat. But at least he understands the Constitution.

Ted Gillis

Yes, Jack, denying Obama a hearing on his Supreme Court nominee was not a sign of partisan power? It was just business as usual.

I’m glad those two didn’t cooperate.

Carlos Ponce

"denying Obama a hearing on his Supreme Court nominee was not a sign of partisan power?" That PRECEDENT was set by ?

In 1992 the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee made a speech insisting that NO Supreme Court Justices be nominated nor considered during an election year.

Here's the speech:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4581754/user-clip-biden-senate-hearings-scotus-vacancy-election-year

The Senate Judiciary Chairman was Senator Joe Biden.

So Ted Gillis insists JOE BIDEN is "partisan". No argument here!

Mike Zeller

Jack, when you were making your list, and checking it twice, gonna find out who's NAUGHTY and nice, you conveniently forgot to mention all the crooks associated with Trump. Maybe that would have made the list too long. [sneaky]

Carlos Ponce

Mike how about the crooks associated with Obama. Oh, that's right. Those in charge of Obama's judiciary were crooks also who looked the other way. Not to worry, the Durham Report is coming!

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, what do you expect this time, to come from this investigation? Will any outcome as far a sentences' happen before the election is over? Will what the outcome is change anyone's mind?

This is just a recasting of "The Sound and the Fury" staring Trump and the gang.

August 25, 2020 "It's been, what, 16-plus months since Durham was appointed, and only now is he questioning Mr. Brennan? And, you know, I think Mr. Brennan is probably calling it right," Fitton said. "I hope he's wrong that he isn't a target. I think Comey believes he isn't a target."

"I'm not seeing it. I don't see grand juries operating. I don't see a bunch of witnesses coming in. I don't see lawyers ... complaining about their clients being brought in before Durham," Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch,

Fitton said Durham's effort does not look like a "serious criminal investigation" in the same way that former special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation did, although he stressed that one was "corrupted" because, during Mueller's inquiry, it was obvious when the government was pressuring witnesses and subjects.

Carlos Ponce

Allegations will be posted, minor players who will plea bargain yielding larger fruit. It will continue for a couple of years.

Jim Forsythe

Roger Stone, whose 40-month prison sentence for lying to Congress and witness tampering in the Russia investigation was commuted by Donald Trump, has said Trump should seize total power and jail prominent figures including Bill and Hillary Clinton and Mark Zuckerberg if he loses to Joe Biden in November.

Stone said Trump should consider invoking the Insurrection Act and arresting the Clintons, former Senate majority leader Harry Reid, Zuckerberg, Tim Cook of Apple and “anybody else who can be proven to be involved in illegal activity”.

He also said: “The ballots in Nevada on election night should be seized by federal marshals and taken from the state. They are completely corrupted. No votes should be counted from the state of Nevada if that turns out to be the provable case. Send federal marshals to the Clark county board of elections, Mr President!”

Stone also advocated “forming an election day operation using the FBI, federal marshals and Republican state officials across the country to be prepared to file legal objections [to results] and if necessary to physically stand in the way of criminal activity”

Ted Gillis

Oh, so Mitch Mcconnell was following a democratic tradition? Good for him. He’s one heck of a guy.

Carlos Ponce

It's called the Biden Principle.

Charles Douglas

Is this the beginning of the RACE WAR in America that Charles Manson prophesied about years ago?

Gary Scoggin

No.

Charles Douglas

Ladies & GENTLEMEN, I would like to make a toast..to the greatest American President to ever put on a pair of socks in the White HOUSE! Two time, Nobel Peace Prize Nominee, Destroyer of THE ISIS CALIPHATE, Killer of Abu Al Baghdadi. KILLER of the Terrorist SOLEMANI, Killer of NAFTA, Withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement, He who ..Demanded NATO ..Quit Robbing American Tax-Payers, & Built up the Southern Walls on our Border. I'm talking about toasting the GREATEST PRESIDENT to exist in History, and certainly in my lifetime, ....join me please in toasting none other than the NEXT PRESIDENT OF AMERICA,...President D.J. TRUMP! Thanks a lot. [beam][wink]

Charles Douglas

If you have not guessed it, then let me say, in my ancestral Maasai Tribe accent, "TRUMP IZ MY MAIN MUN!"

Ted Gillis

The Biden Principle. That would be the only principle the McConnell follows.

Carlos Ponce

It was set by the Senate Judiciary Chairman, Ted. If you are posting about principles of morality and justice then McConnell has plenty of those.

domenico nuckols

Do right thing for the country quit

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