Even if you sincerely believe that Joe Biden won the 2020 election without fraud, you should understand that 80 million citizens disagree. We doubters will never concede that Trump lost merely because you say so. The only way to convince us is to confirm Biden's victory with a full, nationwide forensic audit.

Unfortunately, people on the left are fighting such audits as hard as possible. Their behavior isn't consistent with sincere belief in Biden's legitimate win. It's consistent with dread that Trump was the real winner.

And when you try to block audits, when you mock us and accuse us of spreading the big lie, you only increase our concerns. You make us even more convinced that you, too, understand that the election was stolen.

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Carlos Ponce

Truth will be revealed. And there will be those who will get the "Blues" when they hear it. It won't be me.

Dan Freeman

Only about half of Republican voters believe Trump won. Sad that so many Americans have given up on America. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7426714002

Carlos Ponce

Still believe in the veracity of polling?[rolleyes]

Gary Miller

Dan> All the Democrats who violated election laws believe Trump won. Democrats reluctance for audits is evidence they think Trump won. If they really believe Biden won they would want the audits to prove it..

Craig Mason

what an idiot

Carlos Ponce

Yes, Biden is an idiot.

Gary Miller

Biden would need to be smarter to qualify as an Idiot.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Miller> That one went out of the park! Way Out!!!! [beam]

Carlos Ponce

"Biden would need to be smarter to qualify as an Idiot."

'Tis true, 'tis pity, 'tis true. And pity 'tis, 'tis true.

Stuart Crouch

More lies from the Right; losers who cannot & will not take responsibility for anything they've done, nor come to terms with their failures.

Texas City sure does have a lot of people with computers & wifi on their spaceships. Read that again.

George Laiacona

Once a Trumper always a Trumper. Denial of the fact that the wannabe Dictator lost the election will remain in the p-brains of the Disgruntled Republicans for a very long time. We can say”get over it” but even that won’t work. As long as the Republicans propaganda spews out on the fake news Fox channel the simple minded will continue to live the “Big Lie”

Gary Miller

George> Many people 'fact check' their news providers, That's why Fox became the American favorite by three to one. And why CNN is last.

Charles Douglas

Let's see here! It is not Conservatives who are trying to label WHITE students in this country as inherent RACISTS! It is not Conservatives who are trying to dismantle the Constitution which many of us have stood strong for,.... by stepping on state's rights, due process, free speech, & rights to possess firearms . It is not Conservatives who are killing good paying jobs by the tens of thousands waiting on Red China to send us a few green jobs in 2050 as replacements!

It is not Conservatives who are allowing tens of thousands of illegals to flood accross our borders from around the world, circumventing our established laws making a mockery out our Immigration system! It is not Conservatives who are driving police officers to quit their jobs or to retire by the thousands, because of constant badgering and complaining about their efforts. The negative efforts of a few, are used to brand the positive efforts of the many!

It is not Conservatives who are attacking & destroying girls sports in this nation, and who are supporting the continued closing of our schools for Americans students during the Pandermic, but allowing those coming in illegally across the border to attend physical classrooms instead of virtual schools like the American students are compelled to do! This is a picture perfect example of the Radical LEFT'S political position being " AMERICA LAST!"

It is not Conservatives who have the lying Mass Media Covering up, Canceling out, Censoring out, and BLACKING out facts and truths in order to help horn-swoggle, and deceive voters! It is not Conservatives who are constantly agitating and playing minorities in this nation to hate this nation, and to believe they are owed more, while workimg simultaneously to keep them poor, and ignorant by investing in more food stamps, government subsidies, and fourth RATED educational facilities for them.

One Blue state Mayor recently and publicly stated she would NOT ALLOW WHITE REPORTERS TO INTERVIEW HER ANY MORE! Really? In 2021,.. we have this type of bigotry and prejudice being spewed out from a LEFTIST politicians, who has been crying racism for years...in this nation, and now....racism by the ton is evaporating from her publicly! What do we hear? We hear "CRICKETS" from the Radical Left! These people are so obvious ...anyone can see clean through them who have eyes to see! RADICALS are so destructive, they will lose the House, the Senate, and the Presidency in the next elections, because they will lose HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF minority voters who will walk off their fake, woke plantations!

Gary Miller

Charles> Say it true again.

Harvey Mueller

True story there

Charles Douglas

Everyone should be forewarned that the LEFT is on the "COOL" trying to divide this nation by race, they divided our farmers by race color, in doing so, they will be moving us back to segregation, and by bringing back things like affirmative action, and RACE quotas! They are even now trying to DUMB DOWN the curriculums in our schools! They are the ones who are declaring upper math to be RACIST now! Why? I will tell you why! They are going all out to stop the hemorrhaging of minority voters who are leaving their party! ( Thank you Trump) They are going to these extremes, juxtapose to fixing inner-city schools in minority neighborhoods, and the quality of education around the country, ..especially in Blue controlled states. They will never agree to grants, scholarships for minorities to help improve education. Obama didn't and Beijing Joe won't either! They will never champion school choice or school vouchers to improve minority education! A more educated voter is NOT what they are looking for! They want a "I don't know what I'm voting for" ....voter![wink]

Gary Miller

Charles> True again Mr. Chairman, sir.

Ivory Rubin

That was profoundly filled with enough racist dog-whistles (affirmative action/race quotas; trying to DUMB DOWN the curriculums in our schools, etc.) to reveal you. Exactly who are "they" trying to DUMB DOWN the curriculum for? What, you think people of color don't possess the intellect that white people have to be competitive or excel in the classroom or the boardroom? Losing the popular vote in 2016 (nearly 3 million votes) and 2020 (7+ million votes) would suggest that you have no idea about the political choices of people of color. The top 25 rated public schools,17 are BLUE states, with Virginia being a purple state. And the bottom twenty-five states, 17 are RED states. And, "A more educated voter is NOT what they are looking for! They want a I don't know what I'm voting for ....voter." That is just another racist dog-whistle. A revealing display of racist assumptions...completely devoid of accurate facts. But keep it up, because you have company.

Ed Buckner

Ivory Rubin, you nailed it. Thanks.

Ivory Rubin

My name is Ivory Rubin...That was profoundly filled with enough racist dog-whistles (affirmative action/race quotas; trying to DUMB DOWN the curriculums in our schools, etc.) to reveal you. Exactly who are "they" trying to DUMB DOWN the curriculum for? What, you think people of color don't possess the intellect that white people have to be competitive or excel in the classroom or the boardroom? Losing the popular vote in 2016 (nearly 3 million votes) and 2020 (7+ million votes) would suggest that you have no idea about the political choices of people of color. The top 25 rated public schools,17 are BLUE states, with Virginia being a purple state. And the bottom twenty-five states, 17 are RED states. And, "A more educated voter is NOT what they are looking for! They want a I don't know what I'm voting for ....voter." That is just another racist dog-whistle. A revealing display of racist assumptions...completely devoid of accurate facts. But keep it up, because you have company.

Charles Douglas

Thank you! I Will!

Bailey Jones

A fascinating peak into Cult45. [thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

A fascinating look at the DNC (Democrat National Cult) proving Ronald Reagan was correct. “It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

Charles Douglas

I know one "thang." I "ain't" going back to "dat" LEFTIST Plantation! A body can say what they will, or may, but I "ain't" GOING BACK INTO SLAVERY 3.0! I am free from the LEFT!![angry][wink][tongue_smile]

domenico nuckols

Trump turn this into a banana republic. From K highly classified secrets to the Russians. We’re gonna have a national purp walked day and all his cronies are going to be going to jail. He did lose the election and nothing can change that keep on dreaming Alice you were in wonderland

Carlos Ponce

Your post makes no sense, domenico.

Ivory Rubin

You don't even try to mask your racism!!

Ed Buckner

[thumbup]

Charles Douglas

Won't that man be sorely disappointed when Trump "BUSS" back on the scene to win the next Presidential Election? Yes sir ....he Will!!!! That is tied into what the LEFT is so afraid of! They tried to spoil his ability to come back by those phony, fraudulent impeachments, and they did not work! Consequently, now they have some prosecutor in New York trying to dig up, or fabricate dirt on him now in an all out effort to shut him down! I will remind some and inform others that, "Nobody can hurt who GOD is helping; and Nobody can curse who GOD is blessing!" What's my point? Let me tell it! Wish all you want, and nothing is going to stop the losses the RADICALS will suffer from going after Israel like they have!!!

Remember this? " And I will bless them that bless thee, and CURSE him that cursed thee: ...." Genesis 12:3.

God's blessing came down through Abraham, through Isaac, down and down through Jesus, that blessing includes Israel! This is why back in 1967 when Isarael was attack by 2-3 nations somebody had to pull Israel off their butts! In the ladder days Gog & Megog and others will try it again and the same results will happen only 100 times worse! Joe China and Obama didn't fool nobody when they spied and conspired to do Israel harm when they were in power, and Joe China sure is not fooling anybody now! [wink]

Ivory Rubin

These issues are no longer about Biden or Trump...it's all about those of you who have embraced the comfort of the alternate universe of "alternative facts" rule, and documentation and empirical evidence are not game changers, Where 51 Republican appointed judges and 11 liberal judges rendered 62 rulings on court challenges to the election results. The sixty-two judges rendered the same verdict...no significant voter fraud that had any bearing on the presidential election outcomes. 62-0, there are those you not accepting of definitive empirical evidence.

And then there's the absence of common sense. The ballot that listed Biden and Trump as opposition presidential candidates, also contained opposing political candidates for a variety of offices, and legislative propositions. YET...no a single whimper regarding voter fraud on any of those...throughout all 50 states. How is that possible?

And then there's January 6, where the disdain for reality has resulted in accusations that the seditious, traitorous mob who staged an insurrection to stop the certification of Biden as the duly elected POTUS, were NOT unhinged white nationalist/white supremacist Trump supporters, but "radical leftist". Supposedly to "make Trump look bad". Seriously?? The "left", whose guy won, stormed the Citadel of Democracy in an attempt to stop the transfer of power to their guy, Biden...in the hope that it would make the loser, Trump, "look bad"?? That is a profound absence of common sense, reality, reason, and frankly, intellectual acuity.

Carlos Ponce

"The sixty-two judges rendered the same verdict...no significant voter fraud that had any bearing on the presidential election outcomes. 62-0, there are those you not accepting of definitive empirical evidence." That's an alternative fact, Ivory.

"Rather, it’s that judges across the United States have refused to even look at the evidence, and have instead dismissed case after case based on legal technicalities."

Take the case filed by AG Ken Paxton of Texas, rejected for "lack of standing". Absurd! The US Constitution specified SCOTUS among other duties was to settle "controversies between two or more states". Texas HAS standing.

The problem lies not with all 50 states but six counties with problems.

Ivory Rubin

OK, spin it anyway that gives that warm and fuzzy feeling. But the FACTS are... state and federal judges - some appointed by Trump - dismissed more than 50 lawsuits brought by Trump or his allies alleging election fraud and other irregularities. Independent experts, governors and state election officials from both parties say there was no evidence of widespread fraud.

And, in other cases, instead of alleging “widespread fraud or election-changing conspiracy” the lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.” Face the fact, that Trump was NEVER the choice of the people...losing the popular vote in 2016 by 3 million votes, and 2020 by over 6 million votes. That's just point blank and period!

Carlos Ponce

You are the one spinning, Ivory. Wait a few weeks. Truth is coming!

Gary Scoggin

Carlos... a few weeks. Have your YouTube prophets given you a definitive time line?

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin. God knows the day, the hour and the second of your death.... but he does not disclose. Just know it will happen.

Ed Buckner

Ivory Rubin, I'm not sure Carlos Ponce has the power to understand what you're saying--but thank you for writing it.

Carlos Ponce

Ed Buckner, Jesus loves you!

Ed Buckner

Mr. Ponce, fifty out of fifty States plus the District of Columbia ALL certified that their elections were proper and accurate. You declare that the problem does not lie with the states, but they are the entities who had the legal responsibility to report true election results, and ALL agreed. Do you dispute only the ones you disagree with? Republicans in Georgia, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, etc. were not honest? And your grounds for this are ... ?

Carlos Ponce

There's an old saying, Ed Buckner: Garbage in, garbage out.

Harvey Mueller

Then you should be all-in for an audit to give credence of Biden as a legitimate President.

David Hardee

Biden is installed as the legitimate president. Can you not be satisficed - and stop these ludicrous articles and posting by ignoring them. If you don't eventually you will be having to deal with articles and comments about how Biden is a puppet that is pranced out periodically to read from the teleprompter a script prepared by his socialist, ultra liberal, anti-traditional, and swamp creature handles. If you enjoying the Biden administration tell us about how things have improved. And now that Biden has trumped the china virus put on or off your Fauci mask and take a trip to Seattle and help then stop the murders - wear a bullet proof vest is recommended. Your progressive liberals are in charge - so relax and bask in the re-imagining of the USA - my fellow Americans.

Paula Flinn

Thank you, Ivory Rubin, for bringing common sense, reality, reason, and intellectual acuity into the conversation. Thank you for identifying the racist dog whistles and terms used by people on this forum. Thank you for pointing out the “alternative facts,” or lies, the Trump supporters accept. They do defy logic.

Carlos Ponce

Time will show you and Ivory are wrong, Paula.

Ivory Rubin

There is significant evidence that time will show that you, Carlos, and so many others already know it's a myth that Trump is who he says he is...rather you know that Trump is who he has shown himself to be. An incredible grifter, misogynist, xenophobe, racist serial pathological liar. That his presidency, like his personal business, was little more that a criminal enterprise...ripping you and other tax payers off at the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars. The sad fact...he despises his base of supporters...because they are not wealthy. He said he was for the "little guy", but in five years, you never saw him get close to his supporters, not even when he entered or departed his rallies. And time will show him behind bars.

Carlos Ponce

Wait and see.......[beam]

Ivory Rubin

Paula Flinn, thank you. As a native Texan, a Galvestonian, I learned early in life that you don't have to stand real tall...but you do have to stand UP!!

Ed Buckner

Ms. Flinn, [thumbup]

Bailey Jones

[thumbup]

Ed Buckner

Ivory Rubin, thank you for an honest and accurate assessment. [thumbup]

Charles Douglas

Another thing, I'm not concerned with "empirical evidence" at this point, I am elated that Trump is on his way back, and I want to ready, vigilant, inspired when he comes storming back, and reclaims the Presidency! The last election is in the past, and this nation is already paying BIG TIME, for what happened! I don't have time to dwell on the past! I'm to busy observing the rewards of the wicked! [wink]

domenico nuckols

Trump will never be President he and his family are in jai

Carlos Ponce

"jai" is defined as Indian victory.

In the urban dictionary "jai" means "A remarkably romantic, good-looking, and charming individual, who is highly desired by women all over"

To state "Trump will never be President" is in error since he was elected in 2016. Once again, your post makes no sense.

Ivory Rubin

Of course you aren't interested in "empirical evidence" (facts and truth), you worship a criminal serial pathological liar...Trump!! Therein lies why ANYTHING at all that you have to offer are racist dog whistles, racist tropes, and vague innuendoes? The absolutely embodiment of Trump. I applaud your desire to be vigilant. You and his other dissonant supporters should be alert when that criminal is indicted, and becomes the first ever former POTUS to be charged and arrested for one or more crimes. What you're doing is what too many conservatives do...enjoy the fruits of the labor of those for whom you complain about constantly. So, add integrity to that list of things for which you have no concern.

Carlos Ponce

Ivory, wait. You will find much of what you profess is nothing more than unsubstantiated Leftist propaganda. Stop being a Democrat Party Pawn.

Jarvis Buckley

If Biden did win the election fair & square. That puts in doubt the future of democracy in the USA.

Bailey Jones

Jarvis, I honestly don't see why people think that it's so impossible that Trump could have lost. He had the most negative polling numbers throughout his term of any president in our era. (He also had bad polling in 2016, but Hillary's negatives were also historically high - a problem that Biden didn't have in 2020.) He split his party in two - with many - including the only living Rep ex-president - not endorsing him, and some former party leaders outright campaigning against him. We haven't seen that since McGovern ran in 1972 - and he got clobbered. How bad do you have to be for your party's ex-president not to endorse you? The changes in voting brought about by COVID allowed many more of both parties to vote. Many of the 81,268,924 Americans who voted for Biden were really voting against Trump. Believe me - outside of the hardcore of Trump's base (who we all know love him dearly) - Americans really really don't like him. These aren't my opinions, just simple provable facts. You can look them up.

It would have been a miracle if he had won, given all the negatives against him.

Carlos Ponce

Gee, I was hoping Bailey would be Chapter President of "Democrats for Trump" Local Chapter once the shenanigans of certain Democrats are revealed.

Charles Douglas

All that and the LEFT will look you eye to eye and swear that Joe China is doing a great job for America right now! If we had an honest Media, and Big Tech, That "Crackhead" son of his would already be in jail!!!! Next Election we will be watching out for those eighteen wheelers rolling up to the polling places at 3am, and we will have somebody watching the area GRAVEYARDS to make sure that Dead Radicals do not leave their graves and come cast votes!

We have an old KKK affiliated RACIST who can't talk, and did not campaign to get more votes in SWING STATES, than Barak Obama and Trump who by the way got more votes than any Republican in history, had more African-American, and Hispanic votes than any Republican in history,..Yet this RACIST KKK, loving associate of Klansmen James Eastland, J.W Fulbright, Senator Stennis, Grand CYCLOPS Robert Byrd, and Strom Thurmond beat both of them, but only after the polls closed and the big Trucks and Big Suitcases started rolling in after the poll watchers were ordered to go home! If you can believe that election was done right, & was done fair, you will believe anything.

Charles Douglas

Yes sir, Mr. Ponce! You are onto something here! You know, I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!! Good Choice!!!! That man would do great things from that position! No question about it! He would help heal the division & brokenness perpetuated by the LEFT in this nation!

Charles Douglas

Mr. Buckley> [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] ..for that one!

Ted Gillis

And I still believe Bigfoot stepped off the edge of the flat earth while looking over his shoulder at me. And I don’t need 60 judges to tell me otherwise.

Bailey Jones

The election was on November 3rd, 7 months ago tomorrow. #worldsbiggestloser, who declared that the election was stolen even before a single soul voted, made his baseless and ridiculous claims, and the Cult bleated their full-throated obeisance. "Baa-aaa-aaa-d Democrats!"

We said, "show us the fraud - put up or shut up."

"That's not fair," they wailed, "wait until the election challenges have had time to be adjudicated!"

So we waited. And they were adjudicated. And there was no significant fraud. #worldsbiggestloser, did in fact, lose. Sleepy Joe, did in fact, win.

And yet the Big Lie lives on. It lives on because #worstpresidentever keeps it alive. It lives on because Cult45 can't understand how their Messiah could have possibly lost the election. After all - every media outlet in the Cultiverse had been calling Him the Greatest President Ever for 4 years. How could he be such a loser? When reality poops on your Messiah, reality must be wrong.

It's sad and stupid, and - really just sad. Carlols, and Yale, and Charles, and all the rest of the Cult are wrong. They've been wrong every day for the last 209 days. They will continue to be wrong, I guess, for the rest of their lives. They will destroy what's left of the Republican Party by applying this new Liecine Creed as a litmus test to every member of the party - leaving a diminished party made up entirely of dupes and charlatans. And that's the real shame here - a once principled party taken over by a pseudo-religious cult of ignorance.

How long, I wonder, before gold Trump statues dedicated to memorializing this latest "lost cause" begin to appear in courthouse yards around the nation?

Carlos Ponce

When you see a theft in progress, you don't have to wait for the police to show up or for it to appear in the local paper. Poll watchers saw a lot of thievery.

Charles Douglas

The Radical LEFT calls facts ...All things that facilitate what they like, and things which enhances their narrative! Conservatives lacks the ability to create "FACTS" like the lying LEFT! Example: The Fake Russia. Dossier, which Lying, Crooked Hilliary purchased from the Russians, and had all of the Lying LEFT, their surrogates, including Big Tech, and the Fake Media, and the whole "SWAMP" swearing for 4-5 years that Trump was guilty of conspiracy based on lies, and a SETUP to get him out of office!

They even made Fools out of themselves by hiring a senile old prosecutor name Bob Mueller to put the finishing touches on the setup, but he, and all those in on the deception were to stupid to pull it off! If any stupid individuals are existing in this country, it is those who are so unpatriotic toward their country that they will do anything to sell it out or to tear it down!

They will destroy the Supreme Court, the make up of the Senate, our schools, girl sports, open up our borders, and turn loose dangerous convicts on the American people ....in order to gain and keep power! They are even going the constitution now. It makes me want throw up! I personally feel a lot of pain and sorrow on this sacret Memorial Day honoring all the men and women who have given so much for this country to exist and live,...then to watch this kind of betrayal coming from a bunch of RACIST RADICALS who wants to change history they don't like, censor citizens they don't want to hear, along with looting, and tearing down what they don't want to see!

It to me is a betrayal of the highest order! After all I have had to endure in this country, with all the prejudices, and hatredness I have personally endured in my life, I sill love this nation, this flag, and I never blamed the nation for it, therefore, it would never cross my mind to SELL AMERICA OUT by being unpatriotic to it....in favor of another nation ..let alone one like RED CHINA!

Bailey Jones

Yes, "poll watchers". They saw so much. They saw so many things. They saw all the things. Then they ran to the police and the FBI and the election officials and the courts who all explained to them, quietly, while patting their hands and perhaps with a bit of condescension, that what they saw was not, in fact, evidence of fraud, just evidence of their lack of understanding of the process. But, it was to no avail. Rather than admit their own ignorance, they bought into the Big Lie. They repeated fantastic slanders against the makers of the voting machines - that they were created at the behest of Hugo Chavez. And Carlols, and Yale and Charles, and the rest all nodded and said, "yes, that sounds plausible. They pulled over some poor AC guy and held him at gunpoint while they searched his van for 750,000 mail-in ballots (fraudulently signed by little Mexican children whose fingerprints could not be traced). And Carlols, and Yale and Charles, and the rest all nodded and said, "yes, that sounds plausible." Now they're in Arizona with UV lights looking for bits of bamboo that would prove that it wasn't Mexican children, but Chinese counterfeiters, and Carlols, and Yale and Charles, and the rest are nodding and saying, "yes, that sounds plausible."

It's a level of stupidity and gullibility that makes my head spin. Epic.

Charles Douglas

Well Mr. Jones, all I can say is this,....you can believe what you want to and I will do the same. In the end, we all will see what becomes of this whole situation! I think we already are seeing a little LEFTIST backup concerning the WUHAN, CHINA VIRUS, .. where the LEFT was afraid to admit that it came from a lab instead of a wet market! Now ..it seems that there is evidence that Trump was right in his assumptions that the virus originated in a lab & not a wet market! Now instead of the LEFT apologizing, & admitting they were wrong, they now are saying Trump was just guessing! You can't win with the LEFT! I am content to sit back and watch Beijing Joe tear down our military, while China, and Russia are making huge additions & advances to theirs, destroy our economy by socializing our lives with big government, give aways, and restricting growth, and stomping on our constitutional freedoms enjoyed for over two hundred years! Trump can't get back to soon for me![wink]

Carlos Ponce

Bailey posts, "that what they saw was not, in fact, evidence of fraud".

No Bailey. It went like this: "Here's the evidence and the sworn testimony."

Officials, "I see NOTHING! NOTHING!"

Bailey Jones

Charles, there remains no evidence that the virus originated in a lab - other than the circumstantial evidence of China's obstructing the WHO investigation. If scientific proof ever appears, I'll accept it. That's what a reality-based worldview looks like. If your Messiah didn't just "guess", I suggest he simply produce the "evidence" for his assertion. He won't of course, because - like the "evidence" for his Big Lie - he has none. Prove me wrong. (I'll wait, of course.)

David Hardee

Bailey, your castigation of Trump is renown on this site. More of the same is idiotic so you stop it. IT is time for you and your comrades to begin convincing the poor soles that the results of a Biden triumph have benefitted us all. Bidens administration tells of the future glories we will enjoy, possibly.

But here are a few of the blunders, in my opinion, Biden has done through executive actions. He assigned the V.P., who till now has said or done nothing, to manage the chaos they created at our borders.

Biden did continue with the Trump program to inoculate against the pandemic virus that came from either a chinaman eating a bat or pangiline or a WHO funded experiment that was beyond the chinese capability to manage.

Biden has re-initiating the bribing of the Iranians with money after the re-started bombarding Israel.

And there is no doubt that Biden is placing some peculiar - social engineering - more sensitive - bureaucrats to head the department of defense and the department of justice. Will our Military be required to say “may I” before acting? And the cop will request for compliance instead of demanding compliance to laws. And the dispatcher will query the caller as to the possibility that a perp is entitled to break the law, or mentaly impaired, or victim of a perceived injustice and only retaliating justifiably, etc. All this sounds ludicrous but attempting to moderate with sensitive actions necessary to preserve the peace is ludicrous at minimum.

We are eagerly awaiting the Green revolution, the infrastructure renovation, Fauci's next solution, the WHO investigation of the now admitted China virus, re-imagining of police authority with adjustment for a more human/sympathetic demeanor, And that budget which has massive dollars for social engineering disguise as building structures that are less racist.

Bailey, I recall you are an engineer so enlighten us and explain what is meant by the “building a structure that reflects sensitivity.” Did the Rushmore project reflect sensitivity or was it racist?

For certain my characterizations are based on analysis of the result and the effect of the Bidens administration on our society. Any other characterizations are denying the published reports from those that have given/reported Biden’s acts and future predicted actions details.

Bailey Jones

David, you and Charles can deflect all you want. You don't like Biden's policies (real and imagined) and that's fine. That has NOTHING to do with Trump lying about the election, and your complicity in spreading those lies. Yes, I am an engineer - which is to say I'm someone who acts based on the evidence of reality. If you want to change my mind - it's the easiest thing in the world. Just show me the evidence. Inflation up? Yep - that's what the evidence says. Unemployment still way too high? Yep - that's what the evidence says. Vaccines working to reduce COVID? Yep - that's what the evidence says. Are silicon carbide transistors good for high voltage applications? Yep - that's what the evidence says. Massive voter fraud in the 2020 election? Nope - that's not what the evidence says. Easy peasy.

David Hardee

Bailey, your a busy commenter so I excuse your error in accusing me of questioning the result of the election of Biden as legitimate president. If you review you will find no comment by me of a fraud in Bidens victory,

Bailey Jones

Sorry, David. I apologize for mischaracterizing your position on the election. My mistake.

Ivory Rubin

OUTSTANDING!! However, we're dealing with an extraordinary level of cognitive dissonance, idol worship, and seditious, traitorous people...who falsely believe they have been ordained for everlasting power and supremacy. Logic and reason does NOT resonate!! But I enjoyed it...well done!!

Carlos Ponce

"However, we're dealing with an extraordinary level of cognitive dissonance, idol worship, and seditious, traitorous people...who falsely believe they have been ordained for everlasting power and supremacy" Excellent description of the Democrat Party, Ivory.

Ted Gillis

Yet none of these “poll watchers” will testify before a judge Carlos. They sign outrageous “affidavits” but then they can’t seem to be bothered to show up to testify under oath.

Carlos Ponce

Ted Gillis is lying again. But do not worry, truth will place those fraudulent Democrats in the hoosegow.

Ted Gillis

And if there weren’t so many of them Bailey, I could just blow them off and say “Bless Their Hearts”. But there are millions and millions of them, so yes my head is spinning too.

Carlos Ponce

So Ted's head is spinning.... That explains it. You need an exorcism.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Jones,...as I forestated, you can believe whatever you want to, because I know you are not going to change your mind! You will make every excuse to keep from being wrong! Inflation is up at a seventeen year high, but you would never acknowledge that either! Thousands of illegals from more than 52 countries are flooding across our borders at will, with little, or NO restraint, but I doubt you would agree, because you will side with that KKK loving stiff who is impersonating a leader who says the border is closed!

The problem with the Radical LEFT is they were tempted and deceived by so called Democratic Leaders in yall's party to back a crippled mule in a Kentucky Derby, and he is now performing like a "crippled mule" supposed to perform when competing against thoroughbreds of the world! Lolo! Joe China was on the Junk pile when Obama for whatever reason pulled him off, and made him a running-mate! The man had never did anything for African-Americans, and Hispanics in his 47 years in Congress and he still have not! I will wait for YOU to tell me what HAS JOE CHINA done for African-Americans and Hispanics while he served in Congress,..in 47 years? How has he made MINORITIES schools and colleges better? How has he improved job training or economic opportunities for African-Americans? I WILL WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWERS to these questions? OH TALK BACK TO ME IF YOU CAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lololo! I'll wait!

Bailey Jones

Why you so mad, Charles? Why can't you just address the question at hand instead of deflecting? The question at hand is why you choose to be complicit in Trump's BIG LIE. You of all people here know that lying is a sin. It's one of the big 10 if I recall correctly.

Yeah - I'll acknowledge that inflation is up. Because that's a fact. I'll acknowledge that we have a crisis at the border - because that's a fact. Biden's record on race (and many other progressive policies) is poor - I'll acknowledge that because it's a fact. And your great Messiah was beaten fair and square by a junk pile crippled mule - that's a fact.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey and his BIG LIE thinking Biden won. [rolleyes]

Charles Douglas

Mr. Jones! You were on a roll there, and then you got in a rut! First of all let me say that I am not mad, I got lots of respect for you, and anyway time for being mad has passed. The time now as I view it is.....to get ready for Trump's return so he can bring America back. Second of all, I will give you props for admitting the obvious concering Your candidate, and his record on Minorities, which is not bad, but VERY BAD, yet he had the gall to tell an African-American radio personality that if BLACKS did not vote for him then, "THEY WERE NOT BLACK!"

What a racist, obnoxious, presumptuous thing to say! He made it sound like he was in the Slave business, and that we were his property whose votes he had in the bag! What makes an individual whose RACIST background which is horrible, even atrocious,.. think he was entitled to minority support period, let alone automatically? I will be honest, something like that did anger me at first! He also called African-Americans MONOLITHIC, which was another disgrace, but who called him out on it?

Nobody, because he got away with murder doing his so called run for President, same as he is doing presently! Well I, and many like me, with our numbers growing rapidly,....are proof enough that African-Americans are NOT MONOLITHIC! The Fake Media, Big Tech, and the DEMS had him covered like SNOW & ICE in Siberia! They censored any public criticism of his whole family, down to some people losing their employment, or kicked out of college for speaking out against him! It makes you wonder what kind of country we are getting to be! So let's address what Liberal Label the " BIG LIE."

Many of us don't give credence, or validation to the "Big Lie" because the LEFT did not play by the laws laid out for a proper & fair election! Stacey Abrams, who still has not owned up to her losing the Georgia Governor's race, spent months lobbying and leading efforts to run around state elections laws, changing how ballots could be cast, when, and where, without state legistures approval! They would not allow Conservative Poll watchers to be close enough to verify the legality of the vote casting, nor to verify ballots, and there were other weird maneuvers practiced by the LEFT to make sure that evidence of their cheating couldn't be traced! These things seemed systemic throughout the whole national elections!

All we hear over and over again now is that Conservatives want to throttle minorities from voting by requiring an ID to vote! Really? Is that the most silly thing you ever heard, or WHAT? How is it that we can put people on the moon, and have them hang out in space stations goofing off for years and cannot provide ID(S) for American Citizens to vote with? Just another scam in order to cheat is all that is, and to stir up anxiety, and discord among racial groups! ( Refer to v19 of Prov.6:16-19 ). This is one of the seven deadly sins which are incorporated in the way the LEFT is doing business!

Lastly, if you check Exodus 20:1-17, which are the Ten Commandments, and Proverbs 6: 16- 19, which are the seven deadly sins which are an abomination, and are hated by God! Verse 17 caught my eye: " A proud look, a lying tongue, and HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD,.." I must say that I am glad you bought up lying sir! This scripture alone confirming that abortion is hated by GOD, should cause much reflection on any voter who supports the LEFT, or any individual who aim to serve Man, and NOT GOD!

Ted Gillis

Keep your religious beliefs to yourself Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

I'm on a mission from God, Ted. [innocent]

Kenneth Diestler

All these posts and the disagreement on "facts" vs "alternate facts" display the need for an investigation of similar magnitude, persistence and thoroughness of the investigation that dogged Trump for 3-4 years. ALL the American people need to feel comfortable that the past election was properly run with valid results. Judges tossing cases without investigation does nothing to convince the doubters.

George Caros

I know of 87 million people that disagree with you. That's why we have elections

Carlos Ponce

We want FAIR elections, George Caros.

Ted Gillis

And Micheal Flynn is still a traitor. Can we all agree on that?

Carlos Ponce

Ted, no, Michal Flynn is no traitor.

George Laiacona

I can’t believe that this bull———- is still going on. Face the facts Trumpers lost the last election. Now they wil have to convince 6 million plus voters that January 6th never happened . Their Republican propaganda station will have to come up with some terrific fiction writers in order to convince voters that the January 6th attack on our democracy never happened. If the next election turns out to favor the Democrats gaining control of the Senate, then democracy will have a

Chance to return to normal like it was in the late 70s

Carlos Ponce

"Chance to return to normal like it was in the late 70s." Long gas lines, high rate of inflation, laughing stock of the world with peanut farmer in office. That's inane.

Charles Douglas

While he is busy being scared, and running his mouth, we are multiplying and getting ready to take this NEXT election!

"WE ARE TRUMP PATRIOTS!" "NOT TRUMPERS" .....I rebuke that name and call for the LEFT to cancel it out, and we will pay good money too! Nobody is as adept & proficient at cancelling out words and names as the LEFT is! [beam]

Carlos Ponce

“I love those barrettes in your hair, man. I tell you what, look at her, she looks like she’s 19 years old, sitting there like a little lady with her legs crossed.” said the pervert about an elementary age little girl. CREEPY![scared]

Of course those remarks were made by Joe Biden on May 28, 2021.

Donna Spencer

Yale, get over it. You all LOST !!

Carlos Ponce

Donna Spencer is correct. When they placed that pervert into the White House, we all lost. But do not worry. The day of reckoning is coming and things will be set straight.

Charles Douglas

It came out yesterday that the LEFT is allowing some schools to teach 4,5,6 years olds about their human sexual anatomy, and all that is associated with that subject! I'm not surprised, being that they have facilitated an old, hair smelling, hairy legged racist, who seems to be infatuated with those sort of things ...to be sitting in the White House!

It is said that when darkness sits in, all things associated with darkness starts to grow, and multiply! I see it happening everyday in this nation now! There are schools teaching kids about, & how to become "Drag Qeens" without parents permission, and only God knows what else is going on in places inside America now! Satan has waited for a chance like this! Our businesses are getting hacked, first was the Colonial Line, then a meat Plant, now I'm hearing several other companies here are being attacked! Then Joe China strangely okayed the Russian Pipeline to be completed, but didn't Joe say he was against fossil fuel pipelines? He also suspended drilling leases in Alaska!

All these hacking attacks transpiring with no Consequences, nor Repercussions coming from Joe China against Russia. Why? I will tell you Why! Don't look for Joe to retaliate against Russia, or China! Remember all the millions he and his family got from the Mayor of Moscow's wife before the election? Remember the billion dollar investment Hunter flew out of Beijing riding on Air Force Two with, and the Fake Media, and the Big Tech covered it up?

Well all that equates to "BLACKMAIL!" So then, you will never see Joe put the noose around his son's neck, nor his own for that matter by biting the hands which have made his family rich! So, what am I saying? I'm saying it is going to be a rough ride for the next four years here, because XI JINPING and Vladimir Putin are holding all the " Get Out Of Jail Free" Cards on Joe & Hunter Biden! They, XI JINPING & Vladimir Putin, have achieved what Chairman MAO & NIKITA KHRUSHCHEV only could dream about! They have a surrogate sitting in the Oval Office of America!

Cary Semar

If you believe the election was stolen, fine. You are free to believe as you wish. If you wish to argue for your position, you need to tell us why you believe it was stolen. A lack of evidence is not evidence. Unsupported allegations are not evidence. Suspicions are not evidence. If you put forth a conspiracy theory, the fact that you are ridiculed for offering it is not evidence.

I will offer my own conspiracy theory: Tens of thousands of Democratic and Republican election officials all across the country conspired together to provide as accurate and honest election result as was humanly possible.

That was the real conspiracy and if you want to prevent it from happening again, you need to expel all honest and honorable Republicans from your party.

Carlos Ponce

There is "no lack of evidence", Cary.

Charles Douglas

Ohhh I was just talking about hairs- sniffing, and children being taught adult things, and about drag-queens, in our schools & such without parental permission! I don't think I mentioned election theft in my last post! Anyway, now is not the time for the Radical LEFT to worry about the Republican Party!

Seems like that is all we hear now.. is what is good or bad for the Republican Party coming from the LEFT! It sounds about as sincere as Satan trying to advise God on the job discription of the Holy Ghost! I think with all that is going on, with Joe China, the border, the economy, inflation, racial dividing, attack on our constitution, prices of meat, lumber, gasoline, and every other commodity, going sky high, and with Hackers having a field day collecting payoffs from America,.....it's just an idea, but I think The DEMS & RADICALS should be burning calories worried about their own Party! However, as I said, that is just my opinion! Just a suggestion, a little one![rolleyes]

domenico nuckols

Carlos show me the evidence. Oh it’s in the same book as health care infrastructure, and everything else you god didn’t do. He will never run again. Will the Secret Service go to jail with him?

Carlos Ponce

domenico, we have posted the evidence since November. Right now, just sit back.

Ted Gillis

Domenico, Carlos expects you read his links, otherwise he won’t talk to you.

He’s on a different comment level than the rest of us.

Carlos Ponce

Ted prefers no one reads the links. Why? They show the fallacy of his arguments.

domenico nuckols

Calos, How manyvMy Piwwos did yoy buy

Carlos Ponce

domenico, again your post makes no sense. Take your time and proofread before you press the POST COMMENT button.

domenico nuckols

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