I write in response to Bill Fullen Sr.'s gross distortion of the events of Jan. 6 ("Jan. 6 wasn't an insurrection," The Daily News, Dec. 23). A violent insurrection did occur on Jan. 6.

Four people died that day, one being a Capitol Hill policeman after being sprayed with bear spray. Five other Capitol Hill police subsequently took their own lives in the days that followed.

Fullen claims there was "minimal damage" to the Capitol. In fact, the damage estimate was $1.5 million dollars, hardly "minimal."

Fullen claimed there were no weapons found on the insurrectionists. How about the flagpole used to impale a Capitol Hill policeman? What about the rioter sentenced recently to over five years in federal prison for using a fire extinguisher as a weapon? What about all the Capitol Hill police injured by bear spray? Over 140 Capitol Hill police were injured, some very seriously. One policeman nearly died when he was repeatedly tased.

Remember the gallows set up in front of the Capitol for the hanging of Mike Pence? Where was the commander-in-chief when all this was going on — watching it all gleefully on television.

This was an insurrection, just a poorly executed one, but perhaps a dress rehearsal for the next one.

Steven Sewell

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Carlos Ponce

Steven Sewell, an insurrection is a crime under United States statutes - 18 U.S. Code § 2383.

Was ANYONE charged with that crime for events on January 6, 2021? No.

"Four people died that day, one being a Capitol Hill policeman after being sprayed with bear spray. " That's a LIE.

"Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick died of natural causes after riot, medical examiner says"

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-died-natural-causes-after-riot-n1264562

The only person who was killed was an unarmed Air Force veteran, Ashli Babbitt, who was killed by a Capitol Hill police officer. The others died from natural causes according to autopsy reports.

Did the $1.5 million number come from an itemized list of ACTUAL damages? No, it came from a plea agreement filed by Assistant U.S. Attorney Mona Sedky against Paul Hodgkins. The number used in the preliminary plea agreement was $1,495,326.55. Remember that was a PRELIMINARY number.... In the end, Paul Hodgkins was required to pay only $2000.

Steven Sewell's letter to the Editor has more propaganda in it than facts.

domenico nuckols

And CPD Officer Brian Sicknick is only a little dead.

Carlos Ponce

Brian Sicknick died of NATURAL CAUSES, not from "bear spray" or being hit by a blunt object. Did you bother to read the NBC article? Probably not. It would disprove your false narrative. The medical examiner's report disputes the false assertions made in the letter.

Gary Miller

A violent insurrection did not occur on Jan. 6. If there was one it was created by lies by the liberal media. The 1-6 event was the biggest Trump rally with BLM and INTIFA disruptions. Members of BLM with outstanding arrest warrants were identified by the FBI. So far none of them have been charged by the 1-6 investigation. Why? Because only Trump supporters will be charged.

Carlos Ponce

Steven Sewell, if you think $1.5 million is a huge number, think of the more than $2 BILLION in actual damages during the "Summer of love".

"George Floyd Riot Damage Could Cost Insurance Companies Upwards Of $2 Billion"

https://thefederalist.com/2020/09/16/george-floyd-riot-damage-could-cost-insurance-companies-upwards-of-2-billion/

$1.5 million is $1,500,000

$2.0 billion is $2,000,000,000

But charges were mostly dropped against those who attacked police, Federal buildings, private businesses.... Democrats taking care of their own.[rolleyes]

Steven Sewell

The ehttps://www.npr.org/sections/insurrection-at-the-capitol/2021/02/24/970977612/architect-of-the-capitol-outlines-30-million-in-damages-from-pro-trump-riotstimte may be as high as $30,000,000.

Carlos Ponce

The Capitol architect added a lot of extras to his initial list since Democrats were willing to foot the bill. Repair to ACTUAL damages? Not really: additional fencing, etc.

Carlos Ponce

"Where was the commander-in-chief when all this was going on — watching it all gleefully on television."

In reality:

2:30 p.m. The House is abruptly adjourned, and House lawmakers are told to be prepared to hide under their chairs. The Senate chamber is evacuated.

2:38 p.m. Trump tweets: “Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!”

3:13 p.m. Mr. Trump tweets: “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue. Thank you!”

This doesn't sound "gleefully", Steven Sewell.

Steven Sewell

And why didn't the commander-in-chief send in the National Guard to put down the insurrection? Because they were his supporters and he hoped they succeeded.

Carlos Ponce

Steve Sewell, you REALLY need to get a better source of news. The initial request came from Mayor Bowser. President Trump agreed to the request. The Capitol Hill Police Chief agreed to the request. It was BLOCKED by the House leadership ie Speaker.

Ed Buckner

Mr. Sewell said it well, but of course there will continue to be duped partisans unable and unwilling to see the very basic truths and evidence. There are such duped partisans who can look at actual video of the shooting of the rioter trying to break through a door when she got shot and insist that what you can see didn't happen. Until the full, final report of the Select Committee is issued, this will not be clearly put to rest, and even then there will be misinformation and misled folks. A good summary for now: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/28/6-january-capitol-attack-trump-neofascism-coup-republicans?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

domenico nuckols

Carlos, Did LOSER Trump give you a lifetime supply of whitewash?

Carlos Ponce

demonico, apparently you have a problem with truth.

domenico nuckols

Carlos, people telling you the truth are going to jail in real time. Oh, that's right you don't see events in real time, just thru orange colored glasses.

Carlos Ponce

What truth? I refuted Steven's claims and even used a Liberal source, demonico. You have a problem with truth.

George Laiacona

Right On Steven ! The Republican traitors to our democracy will continue to deny the truth. That is, that they tried to destroy our democracy. We can only hope that when the next Election Day rolls around, the intelligent American voters will remember that the Republicans are traitors to our republic.

Carlos Ponce

And George Laiacona accepts Steven's Left wing conspiracy rants. Did we expect anything less? Not really.

Bailey Jones

It's funny how the purveyors of opinions in this country like to get hung up on words.

Was it an insurrection? (insurrection - a violent uprising against an authority or government). Or wasn't it? Who cares?

Let's just talk about what it was - what we all saw it to be.

The former president (the one who lost the election) invited his followers to DC for a rally. The expressed purpose of the rally was to protest the lawful election of Joe Biden. The president at the time told his followers to march down to the capitol and - at the very least - make their voices heard in an attempt to coerce jello-spined Republicans to ignore their constitutional duties and reject the results of the electoral college. He incited the crowd by lying about how he would march along with them.

Some (relatively few) members of the crowd had come to DC with the expressed intention of overthrowing the government, re-installing the guy who lost, and igniting a great reckoning against their political enemies - including arrests, kangaroo trials, and executions. They brought their own noose.

Many police were brutally attacked. One rioter forced capitol police to kill her. One lawman, Brian Sicknick, died as a direct result of the stress and trauma of the day. 3 rioters died just from the exertion of rioting. 4 LEOs committed suicide, so great was their dismay at what they witnessed on that day.

That's my understanding of the events of January 6th. The congressional inquiry is doing a good job of collecting evidence about those involved and will issue a report when done. What's in the report will only be of interest to those of us who actually care about our democracy.

As for the rest - well, they're just a bunch of liars. After a year of Biden undoing the Trump administration's policies, that's all that's left of the Trump administration - its long history of pervasive and all-encompassing lies. Lies about Trump. Lies about the election. Lies about the pandemic. The great wasteland of Q-Anon lies. And all the gullible idiots who still believe them.

Carlos Ponce

"Was it an insurrection? (insurrection - a violent uprising against an authority or government). Or wasn't it? Who cares?"

It's a LEGAL term, Bailey, of interest of those who seek the truth.

Bailey Jones

ooh - ooh - let's seek the truth then, shall we? So far, the FBI has arrested over 700 people. The FBI is still looking for more than 350 members of the mob who engaged in violence, including more than 250 still wanted for assaulting law enforcement.

So - 1000+ Trumpsters engaging in a violent uprising in an attempt to overthrow a legitimately elected government Yes, that's an insurrection.

I'm so glad we can finally agree on something, Car[lol]s.

Steven Sewell

It was an attempt to halt a proceeding of Congress to certify the Electoral College results. Call it what you want, insurrection, riot, violence, garden party.

Carlos Ponce

THERE WAS NO INSURRECTION!

Diane Turski

I am looking forward to watching the public hearings, which I'm sure will expose these current coup conspirators and traitors, just as during the last greatest threat to our democracy from within exposed those conspirators and traitors when I watched the Watergate hearings.

domenico nuckols

Carlos can get you tickets!

Carlos Ponce

If you writing about Adam Schiff's Committee, that would be a sham. He's already doctored documents.

Steven Sewell

Representative Chaney has indicated that Trump may have violated a federal statute prohibiting interference with a Congressional proceeding. Trump may be facing jail time in the future.

Carlos Ponce

Chaney? You must mean LIZ Cheney. Her word is worthless. Her constituents will vote her out in the next primary. No jail time for President Trump.

Steven Sewell

Representative Cheney.

Steven Sewell

Carlos,

Could you please provide evidence for your claims? Simply saying something does not make it so.

Carlos Ponce

Which claim Steven? You must be new to these forums. I've provided PROOF since the incident for several months.

Charles Douglas

Yes, it will be a beautiful thing, and something to rejoice about, and give thanks for during the next election when we can kick XI JINPING out as President of the USA, and put Trump or Desantis in as a real leader! Half of Americans here will fight you to the end if you say a bad thing about Red China! LaBrun James, Charles Barkley, Nancy Pelosi, Eric Swalwell, Joe China, Crack-head Hunter Biden, The NFL, Chuck Schumer, Our Joint Chief Of Staff, The NBA, and I could go on and on!

China secretly experimenting with biological warfare viruses let loose COVID 19 on the world, killing untold amounts of people, including a million plus Americans and I Have to this day not heard a Radical Liberal complain about American lives taken, for NOTHING except Trump's economy was skyrocking, and Red China could not have that! It shows all who have eyes to see that Red China is running this country!

He is dismantling our military while building his up! He has these fools over here killing fossil fuel jobs while he is the biggest environmental polluter of all times, and is making no moves toward throttling his nation back from polluting! We even allow terrorists and drug cartels to cross our borders to kill Americans by any means necessary! We pay Illegals from around the world to COME in and take low paying jobs, keeping our home grown African-Americans & Hispanics in their place! Coughing up those VOTES, for free stuff! China use our Radical Leaders like they use minorities! They bribe all they can, and compromise all the rest! I wish I had some of that money "The Big Guy" & Hunter are getting paid by the Ukraine, Russia, and Red China. That money the LEFT swears they are not getting and will not investigate weather they are!

domenico nuckols

As always Carlos you can't tell the complete truth. LOSER Trump is a Russian agent he gave out state secrets to the Russians in the Oval Office. That's why the press was not allowed in for a period of time. He should be held accountable for treason.

Carlos Ponce

demonico's tin foil hat is on too tight again.

domenico nuckols

At least I can have an intelligent conversation with someone.

Carlos Ponce

Your posts indicate you cannot have an intelligent conversation.

Ed Buckner

Who y'all gonna believe, Trump or your lyin' eyes? (I am eager as well for the public hearings.)

Ted Gillis

Don’t let Carlos intimidate you Steven. He has several right wing suitcases full of talking points and links at his disposal.

Just ignore him.

Steven Sewell

Carlos is still in the denial stage of the 12-step program. Hopefully he can get into a recovery program soon. The reality is we all watch what happened. We all watched the our Capitol Hill pollicement testify about the horrors they experiened on January 6th. My concern are the efforts to rewrite history. Revisionist history is exactly what it is, an attempt to revise history. Something akin to "alternative facts'" and holocaust deniers.

Carlos Ponce

After posting several LIES, Steven Smith is in denial.Give it up, Steven. Where's your proof?

"Four people died that day, one being a Capitol Hill policeman after being sprayed with bear spray."

Where's your PROOF Steven? It's an obvious LIE easily refuted by the medical examiner's report provided on most news sources, even the Liberal ones (which by the way I PROVIDED!

"Jan. 6 was an insurrection" Give me the name of anyone charged with insurrection on January 6th and proof. I can understand why you did not because there was no insurrection.

Here's some sources, Left and Right":

"FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan.6 "

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-confirms-there-was-no-insurrection-on-jan-6/ar-AANxOuQ

"Has the FBI demolished Democrats' insurrection narrative about Jan. 6?" (The Hill)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/has-the-fbi-demolished-democrats-insurrection-narrative-about-jan-6/ar-AANJpQ7

"Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources"

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

Now Leftist Salon calls it an "insurrection" in the headline but in the story calls it a "riot".

"The FBI has found little evidence that the Jan. 6 Capitol riot was a coordinated plot to reinstall Donald Trump as president, according to a report, potentially putting to rest months of speculation that far-right militias and white nationalist groups had prepared an organized assault on the nation's capital."

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/20/fbi-finds-little-evidence-jan-6-insurrection-was-organized-attack-report/

"FBI Reportedly Finds No Evidence That Jan. 6 Was a Coordinated Attack: 'There Was No Grand Scheme'"

https://www.westernjournal.com/fbi-reportedly-finds-no-evidence-jan-6-coordinated-attack-no-grand-scheme/

"How about the flagpole used to impale a Capitol Hill policeman?" So... a "flagpole" was a weapon used to "impale"? Proof he was impaled? Did Jim Bob Elliott impale anyone? He did some bad things including thrusting the flag pole at a police officer and beating him with the pole and he was charged with that crime. Impaled? No. STEVEN SEWELL MADE THAT UP!

impale - definition: to pierce with or as if with something pointed; especially : to torture or kill by fixing on a sharp stake. That didn't happen, Steven. Jim Bob did make threatening gestures with the pole and struck an officer with the pole. But impaled? NO.

Steven Sewell

Four Capitol Hill policemen, my fingers got a little too excited responding to Carlos' right wing dribble.

Carlos Ponce

"Five other Capitol Hill police subsequently took their own lives in the days that followed." That's sad but placing Republicans at fault for their suicide is inane.

domenico nuckols

Republicans do not care about human life period.

Carlos Ponce

demonico Nuckols is completely wrong EXCLAMATION POINT!!!!!!!

Jim Forsythe

Just remember what Trump said about taking the 5th when watching the public hearings. “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment," “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Carlos Ponce

And what does this have to do with the topic?

Jim Forsythe

Diane Turski Dec 28, 2021 9:03am

I am looking forward to watching the public hearings, which I'm sure will expose these current coup conspirators and traitors, just as during the last greatest threat to our democracy from within exposed those conspirators and traitors when I watched the Watergate hearings.

Carlos Ponce

Repeating And WHAT does this have to do with the topic? The rantings of Diane Turski are amusing but not relevant to anything useful.

Jim Forsythe

Not to you! But others will find it relevant.

Carlos Ponce

others? Oh....... to those who wear the tin foils! I see!

Jim Forsythe

The public hearings are because of the violent uprising against USA's government on Jan 6th.2021.

So yes, it is relevant.to what we are talking about.

Carlos Ponce

It has already been shown that Adam Schiff's committee hearings which have ALREADY been shown on C-Span are a sham.

Jim Forsythe

Only for people like you.

Carlos Ponce

Looks like Jim is having problems with a simple link.

Jim Forsythe

If your link does not work in most platforms, it because of a good reason. All major search engines are rejecting links. If someone is not using a major search engine, be careful.

They major's all show a message like the one below to suspect links.

"We would like to show you a description here, but the site won’t allow us."

The reason for this message is because they are afraid of the content may hold bad infections that may get transferred to the ones that would open it. Make sure your protection is working.

Right now, the world of cyber protection is on high alert because of a new attack on the internet that started about two weeks ago, and they do not allow something's they did in the past, to be accessed.

It going to take 6 months or more to get straighten out, so expect a lot of links to not work.

Carlos, you said "Looks like Jim is having problems with a simple link." My answer is, what link? And what does this have to do with the topic?

Carlos Ponce

Ask a 5th grader to help you, Jim.

Jim Forsythe

What part of it is not safe to open a link, like the link you provided.

I would not use a minor search engine now or links coming from one.

You do not want to have those type of links components embedded in your operating system.

It is happening now and needs to be taken seriously, as it could have long term effects on your computer.

I will not be able to open the link you provided, as my system will not allow it to be opened, because it is protecting my computer.

It all goes back before DOS. Windows ran as a GUI before DOS.

When code was first used, they had no idea of the problems it would cause in 2021 because of using the same code, as in the start of code.

Until all this is sorted out, people will be restricted as to links.

Please use major search engines and check your protection.

Carlos Ponce

Jim is the only person having trouble with this.

domenico nuckols

Taking the 5th is saying your guilty.

Carlos Ponce

[yawn][yawn][yawn][yawn][yawn]

Jim Forsythe

Just remember what Trump said about taking the 5th when watching the public hearings. “The mob takes the Fifth Amendment," “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Carlos Ponce

WHO IS TAKING THE 5TH?????

Larry Grissom

Lol my my my.

What do you liberals think happened in Portland? What do you think happened in LA? As Antifa and BLM took over cities and killed police officers?

Think Washington was different ? Oh that’s right. IT WAS. In that it was not near as violent and it lasted a couple of hours.

Blow Smoke up each other’s backside. The majority in this country know the score.

Bailey Jones

Yes, Larry - The majority in this country know the score. 306 electoral votes for Biden, 232 for the loser.

Carlos Ponce

False score... Wait and see![beam]

domenico nuckols

Prove it now

Carlos Ponce

God says it will be revealed in due time. [innocent]

domenico nuckols

You are wrong, there was public video of the counting of the votes. Carlos you can't see what's real thru your LOSER Trump brand Orange Glasses1

Carlos Ponce

[yawn][yawn][yawn][yawn][sleep]

domenico nuckols

No do overs Carols

Carlos Ponce

[sleep]

C. Patterson

Show me the facts and I’ll learn it,

tell me the truth and I’ll believe it,

tell me a story and I’ll remember it forever…

Curious is the case of Ray Epps, John Sullivan and Simone Gold…study them and discover whether you’ve been told the facts and truth or a story

Ted Gillis

Wait wait wait, don’t tell me. Those three men were at the Willard Hotel the night before. Right?

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