Biden says "America is back."

Indeed it is. Back to the swamp we had before. Filling it with all the same trash that had been drained.

It's going to be a long four years.

Emil Keleman

Santa Fe


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Carlos Ponce

Be patient, Emil. "Return of the Swamp Creatures" may be canceled. [beam]

Claudia Burnam

[thumbup] E G Wiley

Wayne D Holt

Pennsylvania trial court rules the 2020 election was likely unconstitutional in Pennsylvania, and that gives state legislators power to choose electors.

George Laiacona

Do you really think it’s right for Republican legislators to vote instead of the Americans. The Republicans have shown that their allegiance is to party and not American Patriotism.

Carlos Ponce

These state legislators have been told in a hearing about the fraud during the election. Each speaker has a sworn deposition attesting to the veracity of their statements punishable by jail if they lied.

The hearing is available for all to see. George Laiacona won't bother to view it because his mind is already made up.

Wayne D Holt

I'll just shoehorn in here at the top to save some time in reading all the "Trump is finished" posts below.

An expert witness has just joined Sydney Powell's crew. His credentials take seven paragraphs to list. He is considered to be one of, if not the best, cyber security expert in the USA. In an unrelated story about three months ago, the NY Times had this to say about him: "Navid Keshavarz-Nia, those who worked with him said, "was always the smartest person in the room." In doing cybersecurity and technical counterintelligence work for the C.I.A., N.S.A. and F.B.I., he had spent decades connecting top-secret dots."

His qualifications include a B.A., M.A., and Ph.D. in various areas of electrical and computer engineering. In addition, he has advanced training from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Security Agency (NSA), DHS office of Intelligence & Analysis (I&A) and Massachusetts Institution of Technology (MIT). He has 35 years experience performing technical assessment, mathematical modeling, cyber-attack pattern analysis, and security intelligence.

Dr. Kershavarz looked at available data about the election and the vote results. Based on that information, he concluded:

1. The counts in the disputed states (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia) show electronic manipulation.

2. The simultaneous decision in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia to pretend to halt counting votes was unprecedented and demonstrated a coordinated effort to collude toward desired results.

3. One to two percent of votes were forged in Biden's favor.

4. Optical scanners were set to accept unverified, un-validated ballots.

5. The scanners failed to keep records for audits, an outcome that must have been deliberately programmed.

6. The stolen cryptographic key, which applied to all voting systems, was used to alter vote counts.

7. The favorable votes pouring in after hours for Biden could not be accounted for by a Democrat preference for mailed in ballots. They demonstrated manipulation. For example, in Pennsylvania, it was physically impossible to feed 400,000 ballots into the machines within 2–3 hours.

8. Dominion used Chinese parts, and there's reason to believe that China, Venezuela, Cuba interfered in the election.

9. There was a Hammer and Scorecard cyber-attack that altered votes in the battleground states, and then forwarded the results to Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany, to avoid detection.

10. The systems failed to produce any auditable results.

Based on the above findings, Dr. Keshavarz-Nia concluded with "high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden.

Let's just recap: Maybe the best cyber security expert in America, with 35 years working for the top US intelligence services. Specialty is forensic analysis of complex fraud designed to obscure process and actors. After examining available data, says battleground states were stolen from Trump. Has joined the prosecution of this fraud, which will be on the doorstep of the US Supreme Court in short order.

It may be time for the Biden cheering squad here to check their supply of blood pressure medicine and revisit Emily Post entries on writing apology letters. I have heard that Carlos Ponce is gracious is victory. We may get a chance to see.

Bailey Jones

I'm just here to call bogus on Wayne's latest scoop. I read the affidavit of Navid Keshavarz-Nia, and I'm not impressed. I want to go on the record here and now predicting that this will go nowhere. I base this entirely on my belief that #worldsbiggestloser is a fraud and a liar, and so are his enablers.

I eagerly await the court's ruling on this bomb of a bombshell.

Wayne D Holt

I just want to go on record here that Bailey appears to think NPR or CNN is a better source of cybersecurity analysis than someone with 35 years in the trenches at the top of the super secret intelligence agencies at the heart of the US government. Yes, he really does. Amazing , isn't it?

At one point it would have, but lately it doesn't surprise me you aren't impressed with someone with a seven paragraph technology CV from the smartest guy in the room. You have been developing a worrying ability to overlook evidence when it doesn't jibe with your worldview. You are reaching escape velocity with Reality now.

Bailey Jones

My not being impressed has nothing to do with his qualifications and everything to do with the lack of evidence presented in his affidavit and the character and quality of the people who are presenting it (Powell, Giuliani, Eric Trump, et al.)

Although it's worth noting that I know of many very smart people who believe really stupid things, even within their own field of expertise. The 9/11 conspiracies come to mind - with their affidavits from architects and structural engineers and so on who declare that only intentional demolition could have brought the towers down. James Watson - the brilliant discoverer of DNA - believes that blacks are genetically inferior to whites, for instance.

Regardless, his affidavit presents no direct evidence of fraud. He does present evidence of a past vulnerability in the machines - but no evidence of an actual hack, much less evidence of this magic algorithm that resulted in "hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden" without "raising red flags".

By all means - investigate the machines and seek out this mysterious algorithm. Except - uh oh - "these events can take place through the Internet and without leaving a trace."

So, the first question to be asked is, "Were these machines connected to the Internet during vote counting?" I very much doubt that they were. The network access on voting machines is used for update software and loading the details of the races. The Internet is not used during voting, or vote counting - because of the vulnerability. The same holds for the machines used in our local races. If the machines were connected to the Internet during voting or vote counting, that's a serious breach of security - one that definitely should be investigated and prosecuted. But I've seen no evidence of that.

So, blah blah blah - my opinion remains the same - put up or shut up. And I've seen no evidence of attorney Powell doing either. But I also remain, as always, open to actual evidence.

What Keshavarz-Nia alleges is, if true, the greatest fraud ever perpetrated in the history of the nation. The fact that it's not getting traction among law enforcement, the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, bipartisan courts, or even Republicans, leads me to believe it has no real basis. Some - like the president - will take this as proof that law enforcement, the DOJ, the FBI, the CIA, the courts, and Republicans are all in on the crime - as he essentially said yesterday in his Fox interview. But the simple answer is still always the best. And the simple answer is that this is all BS.

Wayne D Holt

Bailey, you fundamentally misunderstand what the role of his affadavit is at this point. He is offering his background and professional qualifications to make judgement calls on the circumstantial evidence that is available to him. This requires him to engage the same skills he used to decipher complex and opaque operations of nefarious parties in his 35 years of top intelligence work for the US government. He is apparently unimpeachable in that regard.

You must have missed this key point in paragraph 15: "I have not been granted access to examine any of the systems used in the 2020 Election." This would not be unusual as even curious election officials are being denied access as the audit histories are being scrubbed clean, such as in Georgia. He has no authority at this point to depose anyone, examine evidence, demand access or do anything but what he has done. And that is to declare in Paragraph 17: "I conclude with high confidence that the election 2020 data were altered in all battleground states resulting in a hundreds of thousands of votes that were cast for President Trump to be transferred to Vice President Biden. These alterations were the result of systemic and widespread exploitable vulnerabilities in DVS, Scytl/SOE Software and Smartmatic systems that enabled operators to achieve the desired results. In my view, the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible. Pursuant to 28 U.S.S. 1746, I declare under I declare under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct to the best of my knowledge."

Gary Miller

Biden thought he got away with stealing something. It could turn out to be a rope that is slowly tightening on him.

Gary Miller

Hope lives!

Doug Sivyer

And this blog page software is so lame it won't even spell check. Way to go Galveston News.

Gary Miller

Just read report on experts loading equal numbers of Biden and Trump ballots into a Dominion machine and running them through. Results? Biden got 26 % more votes than Trump. Just one machine and one test but adds to the idea they are rigged.

Doug Sivyer

Give it up Carlos. You people are just took much. The last 4 years has been an eternity of koas and diaster afre diaster. That God he is gone.

Carlos Ponce

Give up to OBVIOUS fraud? No way! Wait for the final act. God has a surprise for Doug!

Carlos Ponce

Doug Sivyer, your post is shows a lack of intelligence.

Gary Miller

Some of the affidavits were signed by disgusted Democrats fed up with party conduct.

Doug Sivyer

with correction so Carlos doent start with his stine throwuing : Give it up Carlos. You people are just too much. The last 4 years has been an eternity of chaos and disaster after disaster. That God he is gone.

Carlos Ponce

Looks like someone has been hitting the Liberal Kool-aid again!

Claudia Burnam

[thumbup] E G Wiley

Patricia C Newsom

Okay, who is or what is E G Wiley?

Claudia Burnam

That is my name. Claudia is my sister who has the GDN subscription.

domenico nuckols

Go Joe! The swamp is deeper than before. Postmaster General purchased his post. Trump and company profited off the taxpayers every time he went golfing and the list goes on and... By the way DC was built on a swamp.

Jonathan Welch

By using your sister's subscription, you're basically stealing. Go back to your swamp, and take the trash with you.

Claudia Burnam

Jonathan Welch - Typical ignorant liberal thinking. We are elderly and live at the same address. Any other snide remarks????? E G Wiley

Gary Miller

DC was built on a Malaria infested swamp. DDT made it livable.

George Laiacona

Didn’t we just witness three and a half years of filling the swamp with new characters and then having them indicated for criminal activities?

Carlos Ponce

No, George Laiacona, you just witnessed three and a half years of Liberal lying propaganda.

Dan Freeman

Not surprisingly Mr. Holt and Ponce are completely misinterpreting the court rulings.

"Seeking to turn those state-law claims into federal ones, the Campaign claims discrimination. But its alchemy cannot transmute lead into gold. The Campaign never alleges that

any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter. It never alleges that any defendant

treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its

votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been


And there is no basis to grant the unprecedented injunction sought here. First, for the

reasons already given, the Campaign is unlikely to succeed on the merits. Second, it shows

no irreparable harm, offering specific challenges to many fewer ballots than the roughly

81,000-vote margin of victory. Third, the Campaign is responsible for its delay and repetitive litigation. Finally, the public interest strongly favors finality, counting every lawful

voter’s vote, and not disenfranchising millions of Pennsylvania voters who voted by mail.

Plus, discarding those votes could disrupt every other election on the ballot.

We will thus affirm the District Court’s denial of leave to amend, and we deny an injunction pending appeal. The Campaign asked for a very fast briefing schedule, and we

have granted its request. Because the Campaign wants us to move as fast as possible, we

also deny oral argument. We grant all motions to file overlength responses, to file amicus

briefs, and to supplement appendices. We deny all other outstanding motions as moot. This

Court’s mandate shall issue at once. "

Trump's attempts to disrupt democracy are being systematically blocked by the courts. The only benefits of his actions accrue to Russian, China, Iran and North Korea.

Carlos Ponce

Not surprisingly Dan Freeman is not looking beyond the Liberal news interpretation of proceedings. Everything is on track.

This is NOT an attempt to disrupt "democracy" but to point out fraud in the election process.

Jim Forsythe

The seven-member Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Saturday evening dismissed with prejudice a lawsuit filed by a group of supporters of the president alleging that the vote-by-mail scheme employed by the Commonwealth during the 2020 election was unconstitutional.

In short, the court said that the petitioners should have filed their grievances about Act 77’s mail-in voting system when it was first adopted — not after election results rolled in which they happened to dislike.

The full court’s order to dismiss the case with prejudice means the case cannot be filed again.

Carlos Ponce

It cannot be filed again in Pennsylvania STATE courts, Jim. The decision was 5-2 (there are 5 Democrats and 2 Republicans on that state supreme court).

But they can go OUTSIDE the Pennsylvania courts, say Federal courts and if it fails there they can appeal to the US Supreme Court. At that point it is up to Sam Alito whether SCOTUS will hear it.

Bailey Jones

And then this happened -

And it's hilarious.

Carlos Ponce

On Bailey's post:[yawn]

Jim Forsythe

The vote was 7-0

11/28/2020 08:23 PM EST

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court on Saturday threw out a suit filed by a Republican lawmaker seeking to pause certification of the state’s election results.

The seven-member state Supreme Court unanimously agreed that the effort to halt the election results came too late, since the suit was filed more than a year after the mail-in voting law was enacted. The court also wrote that the GOP group “failed to act with due diligence” by waiting to file the petition until days before the county boards of election were required to certify the election results.

“At the time this action was filed on November 21, 2020, millions of Pennsylvania voters had already expressed their will in both the June 2020 Primary Election and the November 2020 General Election and the final ballots in the 2020 General Election were being tallied, with the results becoming seemingly apparent,” the court order reads.

Carlos Ponce

"Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismisses lawsuit seeking to throw out mail-in ballots"

"In a 5-2 ruling Saturday evening, the state’s highest court dismissed the case 'with prejudice,' meaning that it cannot be refiled. The order stated that the plaintiffs had ample opportunity between the time the law was passed in 2019 and the election this year to challenge its constitutionality and that filing suit only after they became displeased with the results was insufficient grounds."

"Chief Justice Thomas G. Saylor and Justice Sallie Updyke Mundy, the two Republicans on the otherwise Democrat-controlled court, dissented in the ruling." November 28, 2020

Carlos Ponce

Here are the CONSENTING AND DISSENTING opinions from Chief Justice Thomas G. Saylor and Justice Sallie Updyke Mundy:

Your source says "unanimous" only because Saylor and Mundy agreed partially with the majority but offered DISSENTING opinions.

The vote was 5 - 2.

Gary Miller

Jim> Not in PA courts but yes in SCOTUS.

Gary Miller

Dan> Try to catch up with the latest NEWS. Evidence is starting to show that only half the Biden votes were legal. Biden may have received fewer legal votes than any other candidate for President in US history.

Gary Miller

The PA supreme court failed to address the clear evidence the law in question was illegal when passed and is still illegal. The Texas suit addresses that fact. PA constitution requires the PA legislature and no other the authority to make changes to PA election law.

Gary Miller

I understand the various kinds of fraud are being counted by identity. So many for grave yard. For under age voters. For double voters. For felons where felons can't vote. For voters who moved and didn't register at new resident. For voters who moved, registered then voted two residents. All in all if deducted, as they must be, Biden was less than half needed to win. Any Democrat approving such conduct is a fheif, criminal and cheat unworthy of US citizenship.,

Gary Miller

Dan> according to your post I get the idea you don't think election fraud isn't a violation of democratic principles. Free , fair and fraud free elections is what democracy requires to survive.

Jim Forsythe

This is the part ( pursue their argument) that was 5-2. They voted with the rest (7-0) about overturning the results.

Two members of the court, Chief Justice Thomas Saylor and Justice Sallie Mundy, said Kelly and the GOP contingent should be allowed to pursue their argument that the state constitution bars the sort of widespread mail-in voting used this year. However, they joined the other justices in concluding that overturning the results of the election would not be an acceptable remedy.

Pennsylvania certified on Tuesday that President-elect Joe Biden won the state’s 20 Electoral College votes.

Carlos Ponce

They don't separate a decision by sections, Jim. The vote by the PA Justices was 5-2. While Saylor and Mundy agreed in part they issued a DISSENTING opinion.

But that's not the end. This will go further.Look at the number of state supreme court decisions issued with prejudiced that have been overturned by the US Supreme Court.

Gary Miller

Carlos> It is not important what Bailey, you or I think about the experts findings. What the SCOTUS thinks about it will be all that matters. They usually accept expert testimony over partizan gripes. I'll bet on the expert.

Wayne D Holt

Jim, the Supreme Court of the United States is going to have an opportunity to decide if that certification was based on a conspiracy to fraudulently increase Biden's totals and decrease Trump totals...across ALL battleground states, done in concert. A cyber security expert witness recognized as being at the top of his field is very likely going to provide documented evidence and his professional opinion to the justices that is precisely what happened. (see my post above). The SC has jurisdiction over ALL state elections when they run afoul of federal election statues.

Pennsylvania's certification can be reversed by a SC ruling that the state failed to account for mass fraud knowingly committed and probably knowingly covered up by state election officials. If that happens, that certification will be less valuable than a Confederate $5 bill.

If nothing comes of all this as far as good evidence, Trump supporters will get over the loss and move on with life. However, ff someone at the pinnacle of professional expertise in government credentialed forensic cybersecurity testifies Democrats stole the election, joins with others providing similar testimony and presents compelling evidence to that effect, the SC is going to be put in a very unenviable position: find for Trump and risk igniting a Leftist wave of rage and destruction across America. Find for Biden and conservative America--the 70,000,000+ who voted for Trump--will never accept Biden as president. That would include me. We are not going to be put in the position of accepting that level of corruption of American civil institutions. What flows from that is anybody's guess but you can count on the New Normal being unlike anything America has seen since the Civil War. And again, if the evidence is compelling by any Reasonable Person Standard, it will all be on the Left and Democrats who wanted to unseat a president so badly they resorted to democracide--the murder of government of, by and for We The People.

Gary Miller

The Texas suit addresses that issue of states illegally changing election law. 17 states have juinedTexas so far but all red states may before SCOTUS takes thecase.

Jim Forsythe

Congress has also provided that each state must have a mechanism for resolving any disputes that arise and that the state’s determination “shall be conclusive.” Ordinarily, a decision by a state’s highest court about how to apply a state law cannot be appealed to a federal court. In such a case, the final decision in an election challenge rests with the state’s supreme court. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer notes, “the people’s will is what elections are about.”

23 Nov, 2020 17:17---The US Supreme Court has declined to hear a case that Republicans hoped would disqualify late-arriving mail ballots in Pennsylvania. The Trump campaign still plans on taking another case to the court, claiming widespread fraud.

Boockvar case.

Even if the Supreme Court now agrees to hear the case and rules very rapidly in favor of the Trump side, none of that will matter for the ultimate outcome of the 2020 election. That is because Biden won enough other votes in Pennsylvania that he would still win the state even if the contested mail-in ballots at issue in Boockvar were thrown out. Boockvar is a September 17 decision by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court allowing state officials to count mail-in ballots received up to three days after Election Day, so long as those ballots were postmarked by November 3.

Gary Miller

Jim. If memory serves Trump was ahead by 600,000 votes when the counting centers closed and started counting mail ballots. A few hours later trump was 40,000 behind? Implied is 1,000,000 more mail ballots were for Biden. Conflounding things was PA mailed 1,800,000 ballots but counted over 3,000,000 in a few hours. From where did the extra ballots come?

Wayne D Holt

Gary, there has already been testimony under penalty of perjury that it is physically impossible for 400,000 paper ballots to be fed, tabulated and entered within the two or three hours that this fraud was executed. That means the vote count was a data dump into the system, either from the foreign servers mentioned in the affidavit or using one or more of the unsecured USB sticks that seemed to be sitting in candy dishes at Democrat vote counter tables.

This is beyond election fraud, this is an abomination. To all Democrats who think the stench is going to just go away: a legion of independent investigators all across America are taking this apart detail by detail. That's one reason why the social media giants are shutting down conservative voices as fast as they can. But this is getting out in a thousand other ways. We are not relying on the NY Times to report it before it seems proven.

The evidence of widespread, coordinated theft of this election is piling up like horse hockey at the racetrack.

Gary Miller

Wayne> I again offer that any Democrat approving this conduct is a criminal unworthy of US citizenship. They shouldbe identified andbannedfromvoting in any election for life.

Gary Miller

PA constitution prohibits the changes. Only the legislature can mak election law changes.

Jim Forsythe

Even before the Electoral College meets on December 14, there is a rapidly approaching federal deadline for state certification of election results on December 8. “if states resolve all disputes and certify their results” by that deadline, “the results should be insulated from further legal challenges, ensuring that states won by Mr. Biden will send Biden delegates to the Electoral College.”

That certification will essentially make the president’s legal challenges moot. And the meeting of the Electoral College the subsequent week will slam the door even more firmly in the face of Trump’s voter fraud claims. Biden won 74 more electoral votes than Trump — 36 more than the bare minimum needed to win the presidency. It is possible, although very unlikely, that some electors in states won by Biden choose to cast their votes for Trump — but “rogue electors have been few and far between, and have never altered the outcome.”

Carlos Ponce

Be patient, Jim.

Jim Forsythe

state certification of election results on December 8

Carlos Ponce

That's man's timeline. I'll go with God's.

Jim Forsythe

You can go by whatever timeline you want, but after the December 8, and December 14 Biden will have enough electoral votes to be declared the winner. January 6, Congress is set to count and certify the votes

Trump will have his going out of business sale, in January.

If you still think that Trump will remain in office after January 20, please outline the path that has Trump carrying 3 states that he would need to do so.

2 hrs ago President Donald Trump acknowledged that the fight to overturn his re-election defeat “probably” won’t reach the Supreme Court, which had been the goal of his legal team.

“It’s very hard to get a case to the Supreme Court,” Trump said in a Fox News interview conducted by telephone from the presidential retreat at Camp David, Maryland. “I probably can’t get a case.”

Carlos Ponce

God has a plan.

Bailey Jones

Jim, remember that God has a plan. And when #worldsbiggestloser gets kicked to the curb and goes down in history as #worstpresidentever, it will be God's judgment on him, his administration, and all who supported him. The plague, the worst hurricane season on record, the wildfires, the economic collapse, murder hornets, negative oil prices ... it was all God's plan, trying to get the American people to rise up and remove this cancer on our nation. Surely you noticed that everything was cool until the Republicans in the Senate voted to acquit him of abusing his power. Then all hell broke loose. "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

At least that's my understanding of how these supernatural things work.

Carlos Ponce

What Bailey writes is not part of God's plan.

Ron Shelby

God's Plan: Biden's win. Move on.

Carlos Ponce

No, that's not God's plan at all.

Jim Forsythe

Sure it is, since all is done because God has a plan. Gods plan now is for Joe Biden to be President.

November 3, 2020 Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden kicked off Election Day by heading to morning Mass at his family’s church in Delaware and visiting his late son’s grave.

Biden, his wife Jill and their granddaughters Finnegan and Natalie entered St. Joseph on the Brandywine in Wilmington just after 7 a.m

After the hour-long mass, Biden then visited the grave of his son Beau Biden.

Nov 08, 2020 A day after becoming the President-elect, Joe Biden went to a church for Sunday prayers, while outgoing US President Donald Trump headed to a golf course in a Virginia suburb.

Biden, drove down to the St Joseph, a historic Roman Catholic church complex, in New Castle County in Delaware. He was joined by his daughter Ashley Biden and his grandson Hunter.

Carlos Ponce

Jim will be surprised... Just don't go crazy when you see Trump take the Presidential oath of office in January.

Gary Miller

Jim> Yes but the outcome has never before been so disputed.

Wayne D Holt

Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer notes, “the people’s will is what elections are about.”

Exactly. And no state court, or even the US Supreme Court, will be able to thwart the will of 70,000,000 Americans if their perception is the evidence is sufficient to assume the election was stolen. The people are sovereign in our system, and will be until chains are put on the last patriot.

The Supreme Court better have something a lot better than refusing to review adverse lower court decisions that are based on technicalities. Technicalities are not going to provide what those 70,000,000 demand...which is justice. Technicalities as rationalizations will never be accepted when the fair and honest administration of justice over the past four years was trampled on and mocked in a vain attempt to makes lies, distortions, circular proofs and absurd assumptions into a narrative to frame a sitting president.

Conservatives and the Right have been relatively supine to this point in the face of Left-led riots, looting, unprovoked violence and social suicide. I wouldn't bet on that restraint continuing much longer if compelling evidence of massive voting fraud is swept under the rug.

Jim Forsythe

“the people’s will is what elections are about.” and that is what 80,000,000 people said when they voted for Biden.

US District Court Judge Matthew Brann posed a question at the hearing in his court.

"You're alleging that the two individual plaintiffs were denied the right to vote. But at bottom, you're asking this court to invalidate more than 6.8 million votes, thereby disenfranchising every single voter in the Commonwealth. Could you tell me how this result could possibly be justified?"

On Saturday, the judge effectively answered his own question by dismissing the lawsuit and saying, "this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations...and unsupported by evidence."

What do you want Wayne , the courts to say Trump won, even with all courts saying , show me the proof.

The Supreme Court will require proof, that they need to overturn lower courts ruling's. The Supreme Court has 3 Trump judges and 5 Conservative judges.

Do you want a do over in the vote? If so, Nancy will be the President until it is settled. Also all other elections on the same ballot will have to be done over.

When it is ruled that Trump lost, what are you, Wayne willing to do? Are you going to take up arms against the United States?

We are a Nation build on laws, and even if it is not ruled in your favor, it is the law of the land.

Gary Miller

If Biden is sworn in and does some of the things his group say they will do. That is when conservatives will think about armed revolt. We are armed and ready if needed.

Wayne D Holt

When the laws of the land have been so abused as to attempt a soft coup and the replacement of the actual winner of a national election with a fraudulent imposter who is just a placeholder for an ultra left President Harris, all bets are off.

80,000,000 didn't vote for Biden. That's the point. If the evidence shows that there was widespread, coordinated corruption of the election process in the battleground states, it means those who perpetrated it are traitors who attempted to do what a foreign power might attempt: to replace the legitimate choice of the people with a usurper.

Again, this is all evidence based. If a reasonable person can look at this and say objectively there was no coordination, then Americans should accept and support Biden, for good or ill. If, on the other hand, INDEPENDENT (not MSM shills) investigation proves beyond reasonable doubt this was an organized theft, all bets are off.

All conservatives have to do to supply a moral justification for revolt is to look at the founding documents. There is all the justification necessary right within the Founders' words, IF--repeat IF-- the evidence is clear, compelling and remains undeniable.

"We are a Nation build on laws, and even if it is not ruled in your favor, it is the law of the land." You've forgotten your history, Jim. If you did recall it, you would understand that, at another time, you would have accepted black slavery and women as chattel property using your standard.

"Are you going to take up arms against the United States?" If someone steals a national election, do you suggest we just vote harder? Escaped slave and self-tutored political thinker Frederick Douglas summed up the choices succinctly: “A man’s rights rest in three boxes. The ballot-box, the jury-box, and the cartridge-box.” I accept that formula.

Wayne D Holt

BTW if you need to get more motivation to stand up, take a look at the closed circuit video of Democrat vote counters in Atlanta dragging out suitcases of ballots to enter in the system after they've dismissed the Republican poll watchers and media.

If they can be identified, I would give each of them a cigarette, a blindfold and a wall behind them. Yes, it actually is that important.

Dalton Logan

It is more like treason then just voter fraud and should be treated as such.

Gary Miller

Jim. The question being addressed is did 73 million Americans vote legal votes or did less than 60 million Democrats conspire to cast 20 million illegal votes.

George Laiacona

After reading all of the comments we can see that the Republicans are not happy with this election results. But in two years they will have another chance to be happy. Right now they should be content with the fact that they control the supreme court’s decisions. They also have the senate majority on their side. The Democrats will have a tough time in the next four years trying to undo what Trump has done to Obama’s legacy.

Carlos Ponce

And that's the crux, George. Obama did a lousy job of advancing this country. Now we have Obama II siding with those who chant, "DEATH TO AMERICA!!!" This isn't good. Sorry if I stepped on your Obama worship. You will probably light another candle at your Obama shrine after reading this.

Gary Miller

George> Yes if we keep the senate. Otherwise a new 2010 may be needed in 2022.

Jarvis Buckley

Bailey I’ve always respected your liberal thoughts. Didn’t agree with many of them but respected your right to your opinion.

I am truly disappointed that you called us Trump supporters fraud & liars. Really was out of character for you.

Charles Douglas

Speaking for myself, I've been called the worst by the best, and it never phased me! However to be labeled along with the first President in over a hundred years who stood up for minorities, and most especially African-Americans, is a badge of honor for me. I did support Trump financially and prayerfully, and do NOT regret it one bit! Trump never called me or my people PREDITORS!

He never call me or my people A JUNGLE SOCIETY, who he viewed as a threat to his daughter, sons, and his wife! Trump never made LAWS set-up to send me and my kind to prisons for long unjust periods of time order keep us away from his family! Trump never consorted, befriended, spoke at eulogies, got mentored by ...and help block Civil Rights legislation with RACIST, African-American hating, Dixicrats, Ex KKK Senators like Lyndon Johnson, Robert Byrd, Senator Fulbright from Arkansas, Strom Thurmond, and James Eastland!

I think that was Joe 10% who did all those things! So check the records and let every man decide who isn't a fraud, and who is the liar! Remember this,.. Jesus Christ himself came and treated those who was despised by the masses with equality and compassion, and was severely excoriated, and vilified for doing so! His disciples and followers were treated the same as he was, but only one fake believer double-crossed him& sold him out. So don't count on me being a RINO double crossing TRUMP! It is also important to note that one of his followers chose to be crucified UPSIDE DOWN, because he valued the work of Christ so greatly, ...he did not consider himself worthy to be put to death in the same manner as Christ!

I hope this helps ... and remember this, and DONT EVER FORGET IT. Exodus 10:21-23: "The Word of God states that when it was Dark in Egypt for three days and three nights, ...IT WAS LIGHT WHERE GOD'S PEOPLE WERE, IN THE SAME LAND!"

John 16:33 " .....In this world you will have tribulation: But be of good cheer; I have overcome the world"

Lastly, If it falls to Joe 10% his minions to ascend to the Presidency, it won't matter to be a hill of beans to me! When the biggest Race-Baiter President of my lifetime ascended to the Oval Office ( BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ) ...even with all the enormous damage and harm he caused, it did not effect me one bit, for God will protect his own, and those who fear him from the snare of the Fowler, and from the Noisome Pestilence. So we will see what become of all the conniving, cheating, and lying which transpired during this past election!! Proverbs 19:5. A false witness shall not go unpunished, and he who speaketh lies shall not excape!" Think about that! My mama use to say to me so many years ago, "Charles, you might get by, but YOU will not ever ...get away!"

He'll has enlarged itself because it will be.packed out! I suspect God will have have to continually enlarge itself to handle what is surely coming it's way! So the word for the day! Joe 10% is not going to spoil my happiness! He is not my GOD! He is just another CROOKED SWAMP Dwelling Politician who has been cheating his country, taxpayers, and his constituents for over 47 years.

Bailey Jones

Jarvis, I believe you are referring to this statement - " I base this entirely on my belief that #worldsbiggestloser is a fraud and a liar, and so are his enablers." By "enablers" I mean those in positions of political power who to refuse to condemn his excesses (Lindsey Graham, Rudy Giuliani, Hannity, Bill Barr, etc.). I don't consider his ordinary supporters to be frauds and liars. I know many and they're fine people. I consider them to be the victims of his fraud, not enablers of it.

Jarvis Buckley

To me it seems as if you crossed the line on GDN’s “be nice “ policy. I hope they don’t remove you from the comment section . Like they have many conservatives. Just my thoughts.

Jim Forsythe

Jarvis, Bailey is quoiting from: Isaiah 5:20-21

20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

Just because we are in the last few days of Trump, does not mean that the ones that voted against trump are committing a crime against God.

If not the above , what upset you so much. What did Bailey say that would make the GDN block him?

Jarvis, as far a the “be nice “ policy. I have been called stupid and other names. Just remember, that things like name calling just reflects on the one doing the calling.

Bailey Jones

I think as long as we stay north of "baby killer" we're OK.

George Laiacona

Carlos I would assume that you have the same connection with God that Sara Palan said she had?

Carlos Ponce

I'm in touch with God's plan. And from what you post, you are not.

Jim Forsythe

Are you judging again Carlos.

You can not know what a persons connection to God is.

Some live by the word and some just say they do.

Only you know which you are. The most religious person I knew, never went to church.

Since God has a plan, and Biden is the new President, it must be Gods plan.

Jim Forsythe

Roughly equal shares of Catholic registered voters have identified with or leaned toward the Democratic and Republican parties in recent years (47% vs. 46%, respectively)

Carlos Ponce

There's a VAST difference between church attending Catholics and those who only attend when there are flowers in the church building - poinsettias and Easter lilies. In 2016 overall Catholics supported Trump 52% to 46.1%, a much higher percentage when filtered by actual church attendance.

Jim Forsythe

Catholics who did not support Trump, 46.1% to 52% .

Carlos Ponce

“In Pennsylvania you saw that divide pretty starkly. Catholics are about 25% of the vote there, and among practicing Catholics … Trump was up about 40 points. Among those who aren’t practicing, he lost 60% to 35% — so very significant differences.”

"But early exit poll data is mixed, with at least two mainstream media sites (NBC and NY Times) showing Catholics voted overwhelmingly AGAINST Biden/Harris (62-37)."

George Laiacona

False statement. I read the NTTimes every morning. There has never been favorable words concerning the Trump character until now when he recommended a Catholic for the Supreme Court

Carlos Ponce

"I read the NTTimes every morning" That explains it.[rolleyes]

Wayne D Holt

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] How many thumbs are we allocated per diem?

Jim Forsythe

Certifications just keep coming in.

Wisconsin’s Elections Commission certified Biden’s win.

Arizona Elections Commission certified Biden’s win.

Georgia certified Biden’s win on Nov. 20.

Bailey Jones

Immediately followed by the inevitable twit-attacks on the Republican governors of Georgia and Arizona. Doesn't seem that long ago that they were both "great governors."

Also an attack on Fox News daytime. I wonder what happened?

Jarvis Buckley

So as for as your concerned it’s over. Right Jim . I would like you to go on record .

Jim Forsythe

Jarvis, most states Elections Commission have certified the Electoral College Votes.

If you are waiting on unfaithful Electoral College Voters, it is not going to happen in the numbers that would be required for Trump to win.

The courts have said no to almost all of what Trump has put before them. They have said Trump lacked proof. The Supreme Court will not reverse a lower Court ruling with out proof, which is lacking.

I told Carlos before the election that Trump would loose because he did not have enough support in the right places.

The way Trump handled the Covid-19 out break, was the last nail in his sinking ship..

When people talk bad about Biden, just remember that Trump lost to him.

Jarvis, just as I ask Carlos, what path is the one that will end with Trump staying in The White House?

Carlos never answered because there is not one.

If I was not clear enough, yes it is over.

Jennifer Lance

Biden is incompetent. His wife had to help him talk in one of the televised videos. He won't be running the country. So who will? Shouldn't we know that?

Jim Forsythe

Come January 20,at High Noon, Joe Biden will become our President .Jill Biden will be at her full time job of teaching.

No President runs the country by themselves. They have Cabinet members of which Joe has announce a few. They also have other people that help.

Jennifer, it looks like you have already made up your mind, so no need to go in deeper about Joe.

Charles Douglas

Ms. Lance, the answer to your question is "IF" Joe 10% takes Office, BARACK Hussein Obama, the same one who has been running the Democratic show behind the scene, the same one who engineered the V.P. Pick of Kamala Harris, and the same one who caused Democratic Campaigners, Yang, Warren, Booker, and Buttigieg to abruptly shutdown their campaigns giving Joe 10% a clear pathway to win the nomination over Crazy Bernie.....WILL BE RUNNING THE COUNTRY! Have you noticed all the old Obama gang affiliants are getting key assignments, and appointments? It's as clear as spring water!

Charles Douglas

ALSO it is a big reason OBAMA still owns an 8 million dollar home in the best parts of Washington DC..along with one in Illinois, one in Hawaii, and maybe one in many other places. He might have one in Texas City too. Joe got 10% ....I always wondered how much BHO got! He got got something I would bet on It! He, Joe LunchBucket, and Crooked, are filthy rich now, ...from selling America down the river, at American Taxpayer expense! It must take a lot of effort to hate America that bad!

Ted Gillis


Lady Bird Johnson, Pat Nixon, Nancy Reagan, Barbara Bush and Laura Bush have all been caught on camera whispering words into their spouses ear to help them along during certain speeches. Most married folks tend to behave this way.

What is your real beef?

Carlos Ponce

Ted, there's more to it than that.

Thomas Carpenter

Trump got flushed by 80 million Americans.

Carlos Ponce

Dead men voting....

Wayne D Holt

I see dead men voting.

What a horror movie.

George Laiacona

Poor Carlos he’s still a diehard Trumper😂

Carlos Ponce

Wait George Laiacona, the best is yet to come!

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, please call Attorney General Bill Barr and give him all the proof you have. Attorney General Bill Barr needs your help, as he can not find proof of fraud. Carlos, you can call him at 202-514-2000 and be sure to tell him he is wrong, because you are right.

Attorney General Bill Barr told the Associated Press that the Justice Department has “not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election.

The Republican party will need to decided if they are going to be the party of Trump or continue as Republican's. If the decide to be the party of Trump they will lose the possibility of getting back the Independent's and Republicans the voted against Trump.

If Trump is the candidate in 2024, it will not be good for the Republicans as far as running for president, as we will have three parties, Democrats, Republicans and the party of Trump.

Anytime you get maximum turn out, it favors the Democrats.

Carlos Ponce

Barr is already looking at it, Jim. You have to remember the FBI and DOJ didn't start their investigation until MONDAY November 30 since they considered it a state matter. Do you really think they have all the information in just a couple of days?????

Jim Forsythe

Six days until December 8, time is running out!

Carlos Ponce

Not according to God's timeline.

Jim Forsythe

God is in charge, and Biden will be are next President starting January 20,2021 at High Noon.

Carlos Ponce

God is in charge and the rest is not in his plan.

Jim Forsythe

Wrong Carlos, it is all part of Gods plan. Biden will be starting this part of Gods plan, starting January 20,2021 at High Noon.

Carlos Ponce

Let's see what happens.

Jim Forsythe

One example of what the party of Trump will do for Republican's.

A bunch of Trump supporters, furious over what they perceive as wide-spread election fraud, are showing their disgust by declaring they will #BoycottGARunoff. That's right; to get even with Democrats for their supposed cheating in the 2020 election, these folks will refuse to participate in what they fear might be another sham vote - one which will decide who fills Georgia's two contested Senate seats.

Carlos Ponce

"Tweets with the tag #boycottGArunoff are encouraging voters angry at alleged fraud in the presidential race to write in President Trump for both seats. The instruction is a bit confusing since Georgia law does not even accept write-in candidates for a runoff election."

Jim Forsythe

It's a bunch of Trump supporters that are the ones that have instruction that are a bit confusing for some. Other will have no trouble following #boycottGArunoff instructions. This race will be won because of the Independent voters. Trump action after November 3ed will also play into the outcome.

Jim Forsythe

Trump supporters on Parler encouraging folks in Georgia to boycott the runoff.


This should always used to show that you do not agree. Write in Trump, in every election, every race.

If you're a Trump supporter in Georgia, you should write in Trump's name in the senate runoff as protest over Trump losing the national election. This is being pushed by #boycottGArunoff.

Carlos Ponce

They don't sound like Trump supporters.

Jim Forsythe

All below are Trump supporters! Many, many more tweets and such have been posted by Trump supporters. Roger Stone is part of this.

Social network Parler has hidden posts on its website that are tagged as #WriteInTrumpForGA. The hashtag is encouraging disgruntled supporters of President Donald Trump to write the president in rather than any candidate for the upcoming Senate Runoff elections.

The hashtag originated in a Super PAC with GOP ties. The Committee for American Sovereignty, connected to political consultant Roger Stone, launched a website calling for people to "Hack the Runoff," and write in Trump. The website states:

>With enough write-ins in the Georgia senate race, we can tilt the balance in Georgia in Trump's favor! If we can do this, we have a real chance at getting these RINO [Republican In Name Only] senators to act on the illegitimate and corrupt election presided over by a Democrat party that is invested in the Communist takeover of Our Great Nation. We will not stop fighting for you, the American Patriot, against the evils of Socialism and inferior Religions. This is a Christian Nation and will be as long as we fight, together, for our sovereignty.

#boycottGArunoff . Jack Kimble @RepJackKimble. I’m boycotting the GA Senate runoff and I hope other Republicans will join me.

Banks @BanksPatriot voters in #Georgia, if you DO NOT accept that Trump LOST, that eliminates any need to vote in the #GA Senate Election on January 5 for @KLoeffler & @Perduesenate. The @GOP keep the majority with Pence as the tiebreaking vote even if you lose BOTH seats. #gapol #gases

@BrianKempGA If not fixed, I will NOT vote in GA runoff.

Gif Goldblum @datamite ·Nov 21

#boycottGArunoff - Write in Trump for BOTH Senate seats!

I Smoked Trump's Massive Bribery Dump @Dknight10k · Nov 21

If you're a Trump supporter in Georgia, you should write in Trump's name in the senate runoff as protest over Trump losing the national election.

Right-wingers on social media are calling for Trump supporters to refuse to vote for Republican candidates Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue in the Georgia Senate race. Instead, tweets with the tag #boycottGArunoff are encouraging voters angry at alleged fraud in the presidential race to write in President Trump for both seats.

The US president shared the post on Monday as he continued to attack Republicans’ commitment to the electoral process and an election he will not concede, despite two crucial Senate elections next month.

“Why bother voting for Republicans if what you get is [Doug] Ducey and [Brian] Kemp?”, said the tweet, which was written by conservative commentator Carmine Sabia, and shared by the president.

All this will not matter Janauary20,2021 at High Noon, when Biden becomes our President.

Carlos Ponce

Let me repeat:

"Tweets with the tag #boycottGArunoff are encouraging voters angry at alleged fraud in the presidential race to write in President Trump for both seats. The instruction is a bit confusing since Georgia law does not even accept write-in candidates for a runoff election."

Carlos Ponce

Anybody can post anything. Come January 5th, however......

Jim Forsythe

DiGenova, who’s part of the Trump campaign effort to subvert Joe Biden’s election, said in a Monday interview on the right-wing Newsmax network that Christopher Krebs, the former director of the U.S. government’s cybersecurity agency, should be killed for publicly debunking the president’s baseless claim that Biden’s victory was facilitated by widespread voter fraud.

“That guy is a Class A moron,” diGenova said of Krebs, who was handpicked to his former post by Trump. “He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot.”

Jim Forsythe

'They have not earned your vote': Trump allies urge Georgia Republicans to sit out Senate runoffs.

Attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell told a crowd of Trump loyalists not to vote for either of the two Georgia incumbent Republican senators, Kelly Loeffler or David Perdue, during a "Stop the Steal" gathering in Alpharetta, Georgia.

"It's all gone too far," said Gabriel Sterling, the voting systems implementation manager for the Georgia secretary of state's office, during a Tuesday afternoon news conference at the Georgia Capitol.

Sterling, a Republican, grew visibly emotional as he described an incident in which a video of a Dominion Voting Machines contractor in Gwinnett County was spread online with claims of vote manipulation. After the video circulated, the man was accused of treason and found a noose outside his house. The man's family members have received death threats, Sterling said.

"You need to step up and say this ... stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence," Sterling said, addressing the President. "Someone's going to get hurt, someone's going to get shot, someone's going to get killed, and it's not right."

Jim Forsythe

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) on Thursday said pro-Trump attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell "are totally destructive" after they reportedly urged Georgia voters not to cast ballots in the pivotal Senate runoff elections in January.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, apparently this is bothering you. Go find your cat or dog and tell them about it. They'll probably care more than the rest of us.

George Laiacona

Now that’s a dumb idea. If the naive Republicans boycott the vote the Democrats will surely win

Ted Gillis

And now Senator Johnson from Wisconsin, wants “proof” that election fraud didn’t happen.

So he wants someone to prove a negative to him.

(Insert coocoo emoji here)

Carlos Ponce

They have hundreds of sworn affidavits of people saying election fraud happened. They have testimony from individuals from various states in hearings saying that election fraud occurred. It is called PROOF BY CONTRADICTION that shows the statement "election fraud didn’t happen" is FALSE.

Jim Forsythe

Of all the hundreds of sworn affidavits that have been presented in court, how many have resulted in a victory for Trump?

How many of the affidavits allege fraud?

The 234 pages of affidavits released by the Trump campaign—which they say show evidence of voter fraud—include complaints that Democrat counting volunteers wore Black Lives Matter clothing and were "verbally aggressive" and one claim that it was "odd" members of the military voted for Joe Biden, it has been reported.

Brad Heath, , said he had examined the 234 pages, a majority of which contained "pretty standard election stuff" already pushed by the Trump campaign, including how poll watchers couldn't get as close to the counters as they wished or couldn't re-enter the room when they left.

One poll watcher complained that some workers were wearing Black Lives Matter face masks and wrote that "another man of intimidating size with a BLM shirt on" was closely following challengers despite social distancing rules.

One poll watcher also said he found it suspicious that about 80 percent of military votes were going to Biden. "I had always been told that military personal tended to be more conservative, so this stuck out to me as the day went on," the affidavit adds

Heath tweeted: "Many of these boil down to not being able to observe as closely as they wanted, not having questions answered. A bunch are people saying they saw something, but didn't know exactly what was happening or why. Some are relatively detailed; most are not.

"But they're not alleging fraud. A few allege things that made them suspicious, but they offer very little detail."

George Laiacona

Carlos the White House has just introduced manors to its daily agenda. Every body is going around saying Pardon Me!

Carlos Ponce

Your statement makes no sense. The White House is a manor defined as a mansion, a large house.

Dalton Logan

It indeed will be a long four years but I do not think Biden will be there to the end. 18-24 months at the most before he retires or is retired.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Logan, with all of what is beginning to unfold, I seriously doubt that Joe 10% is going to get a chance to set in the Oval Office period. The Radical LEFT has been arrogantly asking for evidence of lawbreaking, fixing, stealing, and the rigging of an election, well all the evidence a reasonable man or woman on a jury would need to convict the DEMS in this case is there for all to see, ..on hidden videos, sworn depositions and testimonies under oath coming from thousands of people! There are many Democratic sources giving up powerfup inside information of DEMOCRATIC election fixing, illegal ballots, and dead people voting! Now, If Joe 10% is not stopped with this kind of proof, we may have another fight coming forth, but it might well be taking place here. If it happens, the blame should be set squarely at the feet of greedy, over-zealous, power seeking Liberals, who cared nothing about America and what it stands for!

Dalton Logan

Charles, we can only hope your right.[thumbup][thumbup]

Ted Gillis

When I was an election judge several years ago, the rule for poll watchers (here in Texas) was that if the poll watcher left for any reason, they could be denied access back inside by the election judge if the judge choose to do so. I really didn’t agree with such an unfriendly rule, but it was there if you wanted to enforce it.

So if that’s the case in one of these complaints then phooey on them. They should know the rules.

Carlos Ponce

No bathroom breaks?

Jim Forsythe

From the POLL WATCHER’S GUIDE for Texas. Updated: November 2019

At the polling place on Election Day, a poll watcher may come and go after watcher has served 5 consecutive hours. [Sec. 33.052]. NOTE: If watcher leaves polling area temporarily to use cell phone or other wireless device, this temporary absence does not affect his 5 hours of consecutive service.

What are watchers NOT allowed to do while on duty? A. 1. Talk with an election officer regarding the election except to call attention to an irregularity or violation. [Sec. 33.058(a)(1)]. 2. Converse with a voter. [Sec. 33.058(a)(2)]. 3. Communicate in any manner with a voter regarding the election. [Sec. 33.058(a)(3)]. 4. Leave during voting hours on election day without the presiding judge’s permission unless the watcher has completed 5 consecutive hours of service at the polling place. If the watcher leaves without permission and prior to completing the 5 hours of service, the presiding judge may refuse to readmit the watcher.

Most polling place that I have used, the restrooms are part of the building.

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