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Carlos Ponce

This must be a spoof since there is a lot of untruths in it.

Bailey Jones

I appreciate your comments. I think General Mattis put it well -

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society. This will not be easy, as the past few days have shown, but we owe it to our fellow citizens; to past generations that bled to defend our promise; and to our children."

Charles Douglas

General Mattis is the first General in my life who didn't realize when it was time to give it up and fade away! Even MacArthur knew that Old Generals needs to fade away. The field of battle and politics are two different things! If you DON'T want to do what General Ike did, and that was to run for the Presidency, win it, then run your own administration the way you want to, ....then one should shutup! Mattis wanted to tell Trump what to do, like he was the boss! Trump did to him what ranchers do to wild stallions they can't break! (I'm being kind with my words here). Frankly I am glad Trump slapped Mattis and General Kelly down! They never were close to being a George Patton or even like my old boss General Westmoreland. They miscalculated their worth, plain and simple! Now they have been relegated to sniping from the sidelines like Never TRUMPERS do, hoping to get lucky with idle lies, excoriating, and criticism!

Bailey Jones

Nice character assassination, Charles, although I was really expecting Carlos to stick the knife in. But maybe he'll come along and give it a twist.

Carlos Ponce

Mad Dog Mattes is still mad at Trump for wanting to remove troops from the Middle East. Looks like Bailey prefers comments from a "saber rattler".

Bailey Jones

...and there it is.

Carlos Ponce

Mad Dog Mattes meet Bailey Jones. You're his HERO![love]

Bailey Jones

He likes me because I know how to spell his name.

Carlos Ponce

I changed it to Mattes so it would rhyme with Jones.[unsure]

Charles Douglas

I would like the Progressives to know that we are going to turn Mr. Jones into a great conservative! We like his cut! He would make a great conservative!!!!! Lolo. Maybe we can get OG Gary Scoggin, ...he is already a Moderate!!! We can get him!!!!!

Bailey Jones

Charles, please understand - I'm not anti-conservative, I'm not anti-Republican. They're not my thing, but I don't oppose them. I have many conservative friends and family members, and they are fine people that just happen to see the world through different colored glasses than I do. No, I'm anti-Trump, pure and simple. He epitomizes everything I was raised to despise - selfishness, willful ignorance, infidelity, the basest materialism, unprincipled, shallow, a shirker, a liar, an ingrate. He knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. I find none of these characteristics in my conservative friends, and all of them in DJ Trump. I will dance on the grave of his presidency when he's gone.

Carlos Ponce

"No, I'm anti-Trump" Really Bailey? It's obvious you are anti-Trump! Go ahead and vote for Joe. It won't matter. We're in TEXAS!

Gary Scoggin

I used to be a Republican. But when it got hijacked by the Evangelicals and the Tea Party it left me. For two decades it has done nothing but make its tent smaller and smaller. By electing people like Donald Trump it has become a movement defined by whom it doesn't like rather than whom it wants to try to include. Sad.

Carlos Ponce

So being backed by those who follow Christ is a turn-off for Gary Scoggin.That says a lot about you.

Joe Mancuso

Carlos Ponce Jun 7, 2020 5:20am

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Fact Check Needed!

Carlos Ponce

The fact check lies in Gary Scoggin's post.

Gary Scoggin

"So being backed by those who follow Christ is a turn-off for Gary Scoggin.That says a lot about you" -- Carlos, these little petty generalizations make you look foolish and immature. My instincts say you are neither. But the frequency with which you like to throw them out is causing me to question my instincts. You are better than that. I think.

Carlos Ponce

It was your post, Gary Scoggins. Looks like you can't stand by your own words.

Joe Mancuso

The Post by ---> Carlos Ponce Jun 7, 2020 3:07pm

SHOULD BE FLAGGED AS CONTAINING MISLEADING, DISPUTED, MANIPULATED OR UNVERIFIED DATA!

Fact Check Needed!

Bailey Jones

My dad's story as well. After Nixon's southern strategy, and then the loss of moral leadership during the Reagan years, he left. Or as he said, "the party left me". I was never a Republican, although I flirted with libertarianism for a while. But just a while. I've never been more than a lukewarm Democrat. There is no functioning Progressive Party, so I make do with what's available.

Carlos Ponce

"loss of moral leadership" Like when JFK brought women into the White House to satisfy his libido. Or when WJC had sexual encounters in the Oral - I mean Oval office.

Bailey Jones

There's that whatabout ism. No, Carlos, when I say "loss of moral leadership" I mean when Christ-huckstering evangelical Republicans like Phyllis Schlafly advocated for laws that would make it illegal for public hospitals to treat undocumented aliens - even in life and death emergency situations, as one example. Or when Republican evangelicals advocated concentration camps for gays to contain the AIDS epidemic, as another. Or basically anything that sleazy Garden of Eden Snake oil salesman Jerry Falwell ever said or did. You know - the entire moral cesspool that was the "moral" "majority".

Carlos Ponce

Phyllis Schafly is against providing Medicare for those who do not contribute to Medicare, like illegal aliens, that was provided in Elizabeth Warren's Medicare for all proposal which would cost legal residents $52 trillion over 10 years.

Here's an alternative: if an illegal needs medical care, Bailey Jones will pick up the tab.

Bailey Jones

It had nothing to do with Medicare, Carlos. She didn't want American tax money to be spent saving the lives of undocumented Mexicans. Plain and simple. I'm sure you know many who agree with her. And that's why my dad left the Republican Party.

Bailey Jones

Speak of the devil and he doth appear - https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/09/us/jerry-falwell-jr-deletes-blackface-tweet-trnd/index.html

Carlos Ponce

https://www.phyllisschlafly.com/featured-top/medicare-for-all-illegal-aliens/

Carlos Ponce

So reminding people of Governor Ralph Northam's racist past is a no no.

Bailey Jones

Just a couple of many examples among her diatribes about undocumented workers, and Mexicans, in particular:

- https://eagleforum.org/column/2002/aug02/02-08-14.shtml

"Congress should relieve the taxpayers and paying-patients of the burden of providing hospital care for illegal aliens."

-https://eagleforum.org/column/2003/jan03/03-01-29.shtml

"While Americans without health insurance struggle with the problem of how to pay for medical care, Mexicans don't have that problem. They just ride in a Mexican ambulance across the border to a hospital in Arizona, New Mexico, California or Texas, and get free medical treatment."

I can see why you and #worstpresidentever are such a big fans.

Carlos Ponce

Still don't know what Jimmy Carter has to do with this.

Ted Gillis

Illegal aliens have payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks, correct? Isn’t the employer responsible for turning in those taxes to the government?

Unless the employer is paying the illegal alien in cash and under the table, then there should be mechanism for them to get medical care.

Gary Scoggin

Where's George Croix when you need him?

Bailey Jones

That's a good question. I miss George.

Carlos Ponce

"Illegal aliens have payroll taxes deducted from their paychecks, correct?" Many illegals work under the table for sub minimum wages. The only saving grace is their take home involves no taxes. Work for $5 an hour, get $5 an hour.

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