“Baseless allegations of election fraud” is a lie offered by the liberal media. The easiest voter fraud to identify and convict is double voting by people who moved and voted for their old registration and voted again on their new registration. Graveyard ballots: registering then voting names of dead people identified by community organizers.

Election machines rigged to favor one candidate. Absentee voters who moved and requested ballots for their old address. Volume printing and voting mail-in ballots. Fourteen states have identified and charged over 100 election felons since Nov. 4.

Democrats claim winning by cheating is legitimate policy.

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David Smith

Wow what is really sad is I think this guy really believes this nonsense.....Gary please seek counseling

Carlos Ponce

"There is none so blind as he who will not see...."

David Smith, there is plenty of evidence of election fraud. The courts Liberals tout as dismissing these claims never saw the evidence. There was no evidentiary hearing. They are like the Ape tribunal in the original "Planet of the Apes" who refused to hear Taylor's (Charlton Heston's) testimony.

Jeff Patterson

I think it helps a lot if you actually have real evidence....repeating over and over again the same baseless allegations doesn’t make them any less false. Trump had his “day(s) in court”, and lost bigly

Donna Spencer

Saying it is so doesn't make it so. Even before the elections, the Trumpster was touting voter fraud. If the fraud Trumpster had not been making these false rumors about voter fraud, his minions would not be following him off the cliff. How stupid.

Carlos Ponce

Again, there were NO evidentiary hearings so the REAL EVIDENCE was never allowed to be presented.

Sharon Stratman

Carlos, why didn't the lawyers present this evidence when they had the chance in court? In the court system, saying you have it and not producing it counts as not having it.

Carlos Ponce

Sharon asked, "Carlos, why didn't the lawyers present this evidence when they had the chance in court?" They had it ready to present but the judges refused the admittance. If we had a real media this would be reported as judicial maleficence. But if they reported the lawyers were ready to present evidence but were not allowed they would be verifying there IS evidence. So they did not.

Gary Miller

Jeff> Trump has not had a day in court. Liberal judges refuse to accept the cases. Not the same as loosing a case.

Sharon Stratman

Evidence, Carlos, not a lot of people saying something. Election fraud is a serious charge, so serious evidence is required to justify the court's time in hearing the full case. Promising that serious evidence later isn't justification. That's the definition of frivolous.

Carlos Ponce

The evidence is not "frivolous".

Gary Miller

Jeff> Vidios and sworn testimony are not "baseless allegations" unless you subscribe to the liberal media. Trump has had no day in court, just out of hand rejection by socialist judges.Now that China controls the US government and liberal media you will find it harder to learn the truth. Start paying attention.

Jeff Patterson

Gary, you have so much paranoia and conspiracy wrapped up is so many different ways I can’t even begin to try to unpack all of that. I’ll just leave it at we agree to disagree

Bill Broussard

Carlos: I am watching your “miracle” to preserve Trump on television. I want you to know personally that I want no part of your type of miracle nor do I want any part of anything you and people like you have to say

I thinks the divine intervention must have happened in Georgia while evil spoke from the platform this morning and the follow up prayer will be when Don Jr and Rudy are well placed under the jail.

But the only thing I’m pleased about is you counting out your thousand bucks for Bailey

Carlos Ponce

Bill, this is not the miracle. The miracle will involve God. This looks like an an old tactic from the left: disguise, infiltrate, destroy, discredit.

They need to arrest these thugs, identify them and then do a background check. Doubtful if the ring leaders are pro-Trump. I suggest they use facial recognition software comparing these thugs to Antifa members.

Climbing the scaffolds was a dead giveaway.

HANK CHESSON

David Smith is a part of the problem

Doug Sivyer

Plenty of evidence you say? Then why were 46 tRump court filings up to the Supreme Court thrown out for LACK OF what you call "pleanty of eveidence"? Your continued false allegations of election fraud are kin to the incitement of insurrection assault on this nation we just experienced, perpetrated by your boi Donnie and his dispicable domestic terriorist klan of low lifes and other tRumpanzee supporters. STOP YOUR destructive rhetoric NOW!

George Laiacona

Carlos as you continue to rely on fiction like the Planet of the Apes, Rush Limbrough, Fox News, Q you will miss the chance to view the real truths.

Gary Miller

David> I assume you get all your news from the liberal media which pretends what it doesn't report doesn't exist. Every one of the cheating methods I mention have been long proven and used. I don't need counciling but you could use a new information outlet.

Jim Forsythe

And that outlet would be?

Gary Miller

Jim> one or all of the dozens of real news outlets.

JoAnne Gilmore

Thank you Mr. Miller!!!

HANK CHESSON

Yeah Mr.Markist I would expect you to say that you libatard.

mark mcdavid

It was the bestest most bigly cheating ever...down ballot Republicans won where trump lost. Superior democratic China conspiracy by Soros.

Gary Miller

Get real y'all! 75 million legal voters know and believe Democrats cheated to elect China Joe. We have seen the evidence MSM tries to hide. Obama created Trump, Trump created a new political party which may be called the"Patriot Party". Thrump's legacy will be the Patriot Party composed of his 75 million supporters and new recruits added by conduct of the China Joe administration. Patriots will sign up to compete in both the DNC and RNC primaries for the 2022 midterm elections. 30 red states will add to their numbers while 7 blue states will continue to lose population. Socialists and RINO Republicans will be eliminated in a RED wave greater than 2010. The conservative evolution of America will continue. The difference between evolution and revolution is a revolution can be overturned but evolution just keeps evolving without reversing.

Gary Miller

Get real y'all! 75 million legal voters have seen the evidence of Democrat cheating the MSM is trying to hide. We will be the Trump legacy and a new political party that will attack both the week RINO Republican and corrupt Democrat party by running in the DNC and RNC primaries. When we are the majority of the House and Senate we will declare the name of our party which may be the "Patriot Party",

Adriann Ivey

You need to quit drinking the Kool-Aid David and listen to some of the other News source besides the national media who’s telling more lies than truth every day of the week . Try OAN news!

Doug Sivyer

Some of the tRumptards will never give it up. I guess Gary thinks all the courts that ruled there was no credible evidence to support BS theroy, up to the supreme court, are all in a conspiracy with the democrats. Ignorant fools that spout this BS. There is none so blind as he who will not see.

James C.

I believe the courts were afraid to take up the election fraud cases.

Carlos Ponce

So your use of "tRumptards is going to change the minds of Trump supporters or heal the country? No. You are just expressing your hatred. But that's okay. It's honest.

Doug Sivyer

Carlos, yes, I do despise tRump and good riddance to him. He did nothing but divide this nation and run it into the ground, just like he has done with all of his business ventures. You talk about healing the country but yet you continie to voice your baseless claims the election was fraudulent, and tRumpanzees believe this crap. You wana help heal the nation? Then stop spewing your dvisive rhetoric/lies, and support our new President. That is the best path forward.

Carlos Ponce

Wait and see what God has planned!

Gilbert Fletcher

The harmful name calling is not helpful nor civil. You are upping the determination of Trumpets to prove you wrong. And when they do, are you going to be able to admit it?

Jim Forsythe

Trump

The election is rigged...unless I win.

The news is fake...unless it's flattering.

Everything is a hoax...unless I tweet it.

Nepotism is bad...unless it's my family.

I'm rich...but you can't see my taxes.

I'm successful...but my businesses fail.

My staff is the best...until I fire them.

I'm honest...but I stop staff from

testifying.

So the voters can't be trusted, the poll

workers can't be trusted, the voting

machines can't be trusted, the media can't

be trusted, Bill Barr can't be trusted, the

guy who was in charge of election security

can't be trusted, the lower courts can't be

trusted, the appellate courts can't be

trusted, and the Supreme Court can't be

trusted.

But Donald Trump can be trusted.

Roll that around in your head for about 3

minutes and realize how incredibly mind-

bogglingly stupid that sounds.

Doug Sivyer

EXACTLY JIM

Jim Forsythe

In the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Elizabeth Bartman and Elizabeth Weihman registered to vote as Republicans in Nether Providence Township, Delaware County officials said Monday. There was one problem: Both women had been dead for several years. The man behind those applications, Bruce Bartman, now faces two felony counts of perjury, as well as one count of unlawful voting for successfully casting an absentee ballot for President Donald Trump in the name of Elizabeth Bartman, his long-dead mother. District Attorney Jack Stollsteimer said Bartman admitted to casting the illegal ballot to “further the campaign of Donald Trump.” But the top prosecutor cautioned that Bartman’s arrest was an isolated incident, and not an indication of larger voting problems in the county.

Chester County prosecutors filed charges a week after the election against Ralph Thurman, 71, a Malvern resident and registered Republican who cast two ballots on Election Day — one for himself, and the other in the name of his son. Donning sunglasses to hide his identity, prosecutors said, Thurman returned to his polling place in Malvern after voting once and tried to pass himself off as his son.

Carlos Ponce

Comparing a few anecdotal accounts to hundreds of thousands of accounts of fraud. Really, Jim?

Jim Forsythe

Luzerne County’s prior election director should pursue a reward for detecting voter fraud so the money can be donated to a worthy local cause, county Manager C. David Pedri said Wednesday. Texas Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, a Republican, had announced in November he would pay rewards of at least $25,000 and up to $1 million from his campaign fund to those who report evidence of voter fraud connected with the 2020 presidential election that leads to an arrest and final conviction.

Shelby Watchilla, who resigned as county election director on Christmas to accept a private-sector position, had investigated and reported a case in October that led to the arrest of Robert Richard Lynn, a 67-year-old registered Republican from Forty Fort. Robert R. Lynn, a registered Republican and Trump supporter in the battleground state of Pennsylvania, was arrested on Wednesday for allegedly requesting an absentee ballot for his mother, who died in 2015.The Republican, who posted $10,000 in bail, could face up to five years in prison and $25,000 in fines.

Gary Miller

Jim> One at a time proves fraud does happen. If you will look for Democrats commiting election fraud you will need more ink for your count.

Jim Forsythe

Gary, please list a few.

Gary Miller

Jim> 923 sworn affidavits of fraud by election officials. Are you unaware of these? Guess your lib media thinks they didn't happen because they didn't report it.

Gary Miller

Michigan’s DOJ located un purged Dominion voting machines in one county. A forensic team proved they were programmed to fraud. Recording 1.3 as a Biden vote, 0.7 as a Trump vote. Forensic teams in Texas and in Tennessee were notified how to prove this fraud. Dominion machines in that one county gave Biden 13,000 illegal votes. Over 2,000 counties in 28 states used these corrupt machines. 2,000 counties X 13,000 fake votes =26,000,000 illegal Biden votes. Did Trump win all 50 states?

Leonard Hale

Statement from the Michigan Attorney General: "Let me be clear—the November elections in Michigan ran as smoothly as ever. Irregularities occur in every election, but there are multiple layers of protection to ensure that these irregularities are caught and rectified. Most of these are simple human error, not crimes—in several examples throughout the state we have found election workers making inadvertent errors that would have given more votes to the candidate of the opposite party. In other instances, my office has investigated and prosecuted election fraud, when people have been caught fraudulently requesting ballots, for example. But in every case, the mechanisms in place to protect the integrity of our elections have worked, and no improper votes have been counted. Nor are there any instances of irregularities in the process of counting the votes, only evidence-free allegations, wild speculation, and conspiracy theories."

Gary Miller

Jim will not believe the Michigan DOJ report because his media hasn't reported it. It didn't happen if his media don't report it.

Jim Forsythe

Gary, please do not keep the proof to yourself. Share the names of the ones that voted in a illegal manor.

Gary Miller

11 4 2020 923 whistle blowers signed sworn affidavits that they witnessed election fraud. Interviewed and listed by party membership. 660 were Republicans, 180 were independents, 83 were Democrats. 83 honest Democrats? Hard to believe.

Stuart Crouch

Mr. Miller & Mr. Ponce, you have lost and as adults, you should possess the capacity and ability to accept it and move on. Sadly, and like so many, you do not enjoy possession of that level of maturity, clarity and rational thought. You cannot see how your obstinance portrays you to the sane, lucid readership and public at large.

You two, in some demented, yet prideful manner, have come to carry the flag and bang the drum for so much of what is wrong and broken in our country. You have willfully chosen to defend, endorse and continually sing the praises of a criminal and the most corrupt president in the history of our country; far worse than Nixon, whom I suspect you both endorsed and view as some sort of American hero.

Anyone who can still support and defend the abhorrent conduct and criminality of this president is someone devoid of any moral compass; who cannot distinguish between right and wrong, and someone who values 'winning' and party loyalty at the expense of the democracy in and of our once great nation. Sadly, you and your ilk have destroyed the once revered definition of what it means to be an American. Your cultist level of blind loyaly to the Republican party and its proud ownership of a dictatorial 'Frankenstien' has been enormously destructive, to a level heretofore not witnessed in the history of our country.

You two, like so many, have affixed themselves to the coattails of a crass, loudmouthed bully. And just like on a school playground, those that suck up and side with a bully, patronizing and praising all that he does, suddenly cannot accept nor reconcile their beliefs with the fact that the bully gets whooped. Your bloviating, corrupt dotard got his butt handed to him by 81+ million legitimate, perfectly legal votes. And just as the Senate run-off elections unfold in Georgia (as I write this) you have, twice in as many months, witnessed the true 'silent majority' in this country. These voters are what REAL AMERICAN PATRIOTS look like; those willing to step up and act to rescue a country in danger and save a democracy that has been placed in peril by the likes of you and those of a like mind and culpability.

God bless America in all of its virtues; freedom, liberty, equality and truth, and most especially, its ability to cure its own disease through its democratic processes.

Carlos Ponce

So Stuart is saying, " We stole this election and we're not giving it back!"

STOP THE STEAL!

Stuart, do you really want to side with a group of thieves?

George Soros

Lol Carlos, come on.

Carlos Ponce

You forgot "man" at the end of your statement. Your fearless leader is Big Guy Biden, aka the "Chairman" and he says, "Come on, MAN!"

Kris Graves

Mr crouch. ...you are entitled to you opinion as we are. Doesn’t make you right however. What I see in trump is a businessman who gets things done. I see a good father with great kids. I see a man who doesn’t drink or advocate drugs. I see a man who loves God and his country. I see a man who hates abortion and inequality. I see a man who speaks his mind and doesn’t need a speech writer or teleprompter to tell him what to say. He has millions of people who believe he is not part of the political swamp...and I’m one of them.

Bill Broussard

Kris. Here’s what I don’t understand when I hear someone say this stuff

Washington is political and was deliberately set up that way by our founders. They may have been crossing their fingers when they drafted the constitution but the document hints at 1) multiple levels of agreement to get something done—declarations of war for instance and 2) an abiding trust in compromise. Then, they went to the trouble of trusting this enterprise to voters and citizens.

I can think of anything that was created to be a political machine more than our constitution and it’s amendments.

If Mitch McConnell were to say he was going into commercial real estate and was looking for investors, he certainly couldn’t count on me. Probably not you either because while the man might know a lot about many things, business entrepreneurship is not one of them

So I really do not understand this drain the political swamp stuff at all. Washington is a political machine deliberately set up by our constitutional founders and those folks called “the swamp” and “deep state “ are most likely people who have and know how to compromise as a profession. They have learned to work the Great Oz of our founders.

I’m not claiming it’s an efficient or perfect machine by any means but it does what it’s designed to do

I think the narrative of political swamp or deep state issues from a person who was rejected from the society of New York decades ago so the only visible fit he could muster in Washington was to cast dispersions over the place. Said another was, make them the problem that he was the solution for ( yes Carlos, I know I ended with a preposition)

I’ve watched person after person enter organizations and companies for decades. The smart ones—and the ones who survive- enter quietly and studiously learn how the place works then make changes to make it work better.

On occasion the insecure less talented enter and begin a dialogue about what’s wrong or—even worse—how things worked better at their last employment. They really don’t last too long

Here’s the shame of the situation: in both cases I’m really sure the commitment to make a contribution is the background of both groups. It’s just that those in the second group rob themselves of the chance before they can contribute

When my wife and I were watching the Republican-primaries the months before Mr Trumps election I told her two things I still stand by

1) calling the press liars and enemy of the people is insulting the cornerstone of our Freedom and is simply not very smart. Clearly he does not remember the power of the pen in Watergate. He is taking the Genie out of the bottle

And 2) if he gets elected he will destroy the Republican Party

Mr Trump might be a person who has skill at branding and entrepreneurship— although we have not been able to judge that yet. But we asked that kind of person to run a machine designed by our forefathers that was fueled intentionally by politics. Then, even before he got there, President Trump began tirade after tirade against the very institutions elevated by our forefathers. It just couldn’t work for too long. It was a mismatch and the voters just got it wrong

Carlos Ponce

There you go again, Bill, rewriting what Trump said to fit your narrative - Very Adam Schiff -like. "calling the press liars and enemy of the people" Trump called "FAKE NEWS" the enemy of the people. And he's right. And there are many US presidents who agree with him, starting with Jefferson. Lincoln, Truman, among others who had problems with FAKE NEWS.

Carlos Ponce

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Paula Flinn

Every President gets things done. If he isn’t signing bills into laws, he’s putting out Executive Orders. I don’t see a good father in Trump. He claims Ivana, his wife, raised the children. He had very little to do with their childhood. His “great kids” are viewed as spoiled and entitled. Eric, for one, stole money from St. Jude’s Cancer Research Center for Kids. (What kind of person steals from children with cancer?)

I grant you, Trump says that he does not drink, but he sometimes slurs his words like he’s on drugs.

Trump loves God so much that he doesn’t attend Church, just does photo-ops outside of them. Trump never talks about God or prayer, so it’s hard to tell that he loves God. Maybe he does. Trump goes along with the Republicans on hating abortion, but inequality? There is no proof that he hates inequality at all. I think he dislikes the working poor and people on welfare who cannot work. Trump imitated a disabled reporter. He thought it was funny. His own violent words and actions at his rallies disgust me.

Trump doesn’t need a speech writer? Sometimes he does use Stephen Miller for that. You may read your own speech or someone else’s speech on a teleprompter. That’s what it’s for. It’s just a tool.

Like Mr. Broussard said, Washington DC and the Constitution are meant to be political. That’s the whole point. We should elect people who are familiar with what’s in the Constitution. I don’t think Trump has read it, or that he knows what’s in it. He knows HIS powers, but he doesn’t recognize where his powers end, and where the other two branches of our government’s powers begin. We have a President, not a king. Trump has violated the Constitution more than once. He was impeached for that by the House.

Trump is wanted in NY State for crimes as soon as he is not president anymore. He cannot pardon himself for those crimes. Most of us will be interested in those trials and their outcomes.

In Trump, we have a con-man who has lied to us many times and used inflamed rhetoric for his own benefit and motives. Lying is a violation of one of the 10 Commandments. You cannot trust a liar. You cannot trust President Trump.

Doug Sivyer

Stuart, perfectly stated reality. Something Mr. Ponce and Mr. Miller are not capable of comprehending.

Carlos Ponce

Mr. Miller and I do not comprehend BS.

Jeff Patterson

No words were ever more prophetic....

Patricia C Newsom

My son who has lived in California for decades requested a (one) mail in vote ballot due to traveling in his job. He received SIX mail in vote ballots. A Democratic controlled state for years.

Curtiss Brown

Did your son vote all six ballots? Is your son an honest person? Did he sign his name to all six ballots? Did he sign someone else's name? You do understand that it is necessary to sign the ballot envelope and the outside transmission envelope and that those signatures must match the signature on the requesting form? You do realize that voting more than once is a felony? Is your son smart enough to know that for him to vote even one other ballot that the protection methods would put him in jail? I feel sure he was smart enough to vote only once, just as all Americans did.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. This is a response to you comment to me above. The GDN gave me no way to respond directly

Carlos your response is absurd. Is it legal to own a parrot? I think I want to buy a Carlos Jr

I take the time to write a thoughtful prose to suggest we may have chosen a forklift driver to do brain surgery and you not pick some ridiculous particle while being a smart guy and full well know what he means. Even the United States senate understands so please give us a break

From his inauguration on 20 January 2017 through 15 October 2019, Trump used Twitter to call the news media the "enemy of the people" 36 times. In response to the recount process of the 2020 United States presidential election in Georgia, which certified Joe Biden as the winner of the state, Trump called Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger an "enemy of the people".

On 16 August 2018, the United States Senate, in a symbolic rebuke to Trump, passed by unanimous consent a resolution affirming that the media is not "the enemy of the people" and reaffirming "the vital and indispensable role the free press serves."

Polly might get a cracker if Polly weren’t so tedious

Carlos Ponce

Bill, give me a link to where Trump called THE NEWS MEDIA the :"enemy of the people. You will find where he called FAKE NEWS or THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA "The enemy of the people. Not the same.

Since you claim there are 36 of them you should not have any problem, right? Remember, just NEWS MEDIA without the word FAKE.

Bill Broussard

Carlos: I’ve looked around and this link gives you the best list for references so you can then go look for yourself. Much of what I’m familiar with is in this bibliography.

But

Please note that even the us senate “heard” the press over the specificity of only Fake News publications. And sense only Fox or OAN seem to be not fake news the allegation does seem to capture 90% of all news media

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_of_the_people#French_Revolution

Carlos Ponce

"so you can then go look for yourself." I have and the only references include the adjective "FAKE" in them - not what you purport.

Trump is RIGHT. FAKE NEWS including FAKE MEDIA NEWS is the enemy of the people.

Bill Broussard

Here ya go Carlos: directly from his speech to the mob last week from his own puffy lips “ We don’t have a free and fair press. Our media is not free, it’s not fair. It suppresses thought. It suppresses speech, and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. It’s a—it’s the biggest problem we have in this country. No third world countries would even attempt to do what we caught them doing.…”

Note he didn’t use “fake news” to draw the fine line you say he always does. But of course even congress knows trump means the media hence their resolution to support the media. Anyway, you asked for it.

Carlos Ponce

"note he didn't use 'fake news' .. "FALSE!

Bill, look CAREFULLY at the transcript of that speech:

"We have hundreds of thousands of people here and I just want them to be recognized by the fake news media."

"The media is the biggest problem we have as far as I’m concerned, single biggest problem. The fake news and the Big tech."

"The American people do not believe the corrupt, fake news anymore."

"These are the facts that you won’t hear from the fake news media."

Did you use a doctored version of the speech? I hope you weren't LYING to us.

Carlos Ponce

For over FOUR YEARS we heard the Democrat mantras: "Not my President", "Illegitimate President", "Russian Collusion", etc.. And they STILL continue this mantra.

So WHAT did the Republicans do?

They said it would be a waste of time and money but if if there's any evidence, present it.

The best Democrats could come up with was a FAKE DOSSIER bought and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign.

And each investigation showed no collusion, the House Intelligence Committee, the Senate Intelligence committee, the FBI, the Mueller report all came up with the same conclusion of no collusion. And we still have some Democrats saying the Mueller report showed collusion but cannot point to anything in the report that shows that. Well, you can't fix stupid.

And now there is evidence of FRAUD in the November 2020 Presidential election. Will the anti - Trump faction allow it to be heard and seen? No.

Showing evidence to a Democrat is like showing a cross to a vampire.

Ted Cruz is ready to show it to Congress but the Senate leader McConnell is trying to stymie those efforts. Why? One of our Liberal forum contributors posted that McConnell's wife has an investment in China. [whistling]

The evidence is there. If you haven't seen it that's your fault.

With Democrats in control look for an effort to make MANDARIN a language requirement in US schools.

How many of of our Liberal pundits are eating Chinese today?

Jim Forsythe

One of the reasons you say that Trump lost is McConnel's wife possible investments in China,. Republicans causing Trump lost, that's rich!

Zhè ge duō shǎo qián? I can tell you how much that cost, control!

Carlos Ponce

"you say that Trump lost" Never did, Jim. Take your meds.

Gary Miller

Jim. Our DOJ estimates there are 1 million+ Chinese agents working in America. Most are in academia but many are in Hollywood and investment. The "green new deal" if implemented will be the largest gift China will ever get from anyone. Worth enough for China to spend Trillions to get it passed.

Gary Miller

Carlos> Stupid can be fixed. Put them in a private school at age 3. Waiting until older than 3 risks they could be educated (?) in a public school. Public schools create stupid.

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Carlos Ponce

Gary Miller, I know stupid can't be fixed but I like saying, "See, I told you so!"

Bill Broussard

Cruz showed nothing to congress Carlos and he certainly had a chance. Instead he forwarded a recommendation to defer based on what people felt or were saying. It’s the exact same thing that happened in numerous courts across the nation before Cruz had his day....”people feel or people are saying” has been adjudicated as no evidence

Carlos Ponce

No, he did not have a chance. McConnell limited discussion.

Bill Broussard

Carlos: I did look at the transcript and he did say “ And you know what else? We don’t have a free and fair press. Our media is not free, it’s not fair. It suppresses thought, it suppresses speech and it’s become the enemy of the people. It’s become the enemy of the people. It’s the biggest problem we have in this country.”

I don’t think you read down far enough but I can’t blame you—it’s pretty disjointed

I didn’t lie to you in this matter Carlos. If I started lying I’d have to run as the Republican presidential candidate in 2024. Actually, that not fair. Not all republicans lie ....

Carlos Ponce

But you added President Trump did not say "FAKE NEWS" and that was not true. He said it FOUR TIMES.

Liars stick to their Democrat Party.

Patricia C Newsom

The statement was that McConnell’s wife’s family owns a large shipping company in China. Pelosi husband does extensive business in China.

Gary Miller

Patricia> Libs demand McConnell be responcible for family actions, but doesn't hold Pelosi responcible for her husbands actions. Hypocracy is an untreatable lib disease.

Thomas Carpenter

Another miracle by Lord Kon Tiki Viracocha as Georgia goes completely blue!

Gary Miller

Thomas> Georgia turned GREEN under a blanket of dollars. Democrat votes are easily bought.

Gary Miller

OOps. Turned Democrat party more blue but not Georgia.

Gary Miller

Thomas> Sorry but Georgia didn't turn blue. Their Governor, Lt. Governor and Legislature is still RED. Because of 17th Amendment Senators no longer speak for the state that elected them. The election of two lib Senators turned the Democrat party more red but not Georgia.

Carlos Ponce

Republican governor, etc doesn't look Blue to the rest of us, Thomas Carpenter.

Gary Miller

Thomas> Georgia is still a Red state. Two socialist Senators does not change that.

Jim Forsythe

Gary , Carlos, you can write whatever you want ,but after today the Demarcates will control the House, Senate and the Whitehouse.

The reason the two candidates in Georgia lost, can be placed on Trumps shoulders.

If you want to whine, that's your business, or you can look at the facts, and make a decision based on facts.

You both keep spouting the rehashed garbage that has already been debunked, that will go nowhere

People would be behind what you are saying, if any proof was given, but all that is ever pushed is unproven rumors and such. Much of what you spout started in dark places like the halls of QANON.

At the protest rally , parade in DC today, which Trump is backing, The Proud Boys and QANON will be in attendance. The results from the protest could be a lot of bloodshed for no rational reason.

As far as the vote today, that will certify Biden today as President, remember what this is sitting up. People in the House and Senate are going to say they do not accept the Electro votes today. This sits-up the following. Whichever party has control of both the House and Senate, could refuse to use the Electro votes and vote in the person that they want as President.

Carlos Ponce

"Demarcates"????

Thomas Carpenter

Two thumbs up for Stuart Crouch for telling it like it is. Now watch Biden become President and the fat dotard go ballistic ... let's hope it's not with real missiles.

Carlos Ponce

Name calling again, Thomas Carpenter?

George Laiacona

1867 all over again! The Republicans who are disappointed with this election will continue to believe in fraud. But fortunately there are those who believe in the Constitution. Because our Republic works only when losers accept the results, and the legitimacy of their opponents.

We can expect this dispute to go on for as long as the losers still can breath.

Bailey Jones

It's the new Lost Cause. (The Mouth will rise again!)

It's also the end of the Republican Party, at least for the next decade or so. Hopefully, Ossoff will also win and render the Tea Party of Trump irrelevant until 2024.

Gary Miller

Bailey> I sure hope it's the end of the Republican party. And the beginning of the "Patriot" party. The liberal media didn't tell voters what the "green new deal" will do to their future. As any part of it is attempted people will become Patriots. We will identify the Old Democrats as the Socialist party.

Bailey Jones

I'm going to give your Patriots Party a [thumbup]. And be sure to get your socialist developed and distributed COVID vaccine, Gary, it's free to all Americans.

Gary Miller

Bailey> I hope you are right about the end of the Republican party, I see the start of the PATRIOT party to oppose the Socialist party.

Thomas Carpenter

Lindsey Graham

@LindseyGrahamSC

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May 3, 2016

'If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it." Senator Lindsey Graham. 2021, what a great year for democracy! Care for some cheese to go with that whine Mr. Ponce and Mr. Miller.

Carlos Ponce

No cheese Thomas Carpenter, the DemocRATS have stolen all of it!

Gary Miller

Thomas> I like NY white cheddar.

Thomas Carpenter

By the way, I'm really happy Mr. Miller found a ghost writer!

Carlos Ponce

To match the thousands of ghosts who voted Biden.....

domenico nuckols

Carlos we won

Carlos Ponce

Thank you for agreeing with me, domenico. Yes, Trump won!

Jim Forsythe

Trump won! Yes Trump won the race to the bottom.

Yes, Trump won in dividing the Republican party.

Yes, Trump won by leaving the Whitehouse (or being removed by whatever means necessary) on Janauary20,2021 at high noon.

Yes Trump won by being a Impeached President and a one term President that LOST in a landslide.

After Janauary20,2021 at high noon, Trump will have to face the music in the court system. Another win, but not for Trump.

Jim Forsythe

Trump won! Yes Trump won the race to the bottom.

Yes, Trump won in dividing the Republican party.

Yes, Trump won by leaving the Whitehouse (or being removed by whatever means necessary) on Janauary20,2021 at high noon.

Yes Trump won by being a Impeached President and a one term President that LOST in a landslide.

After Janauary20,2021 at high noon, Trump will have to face the music in the court system. Another win, but not for Trump.

Carlos Ponce

And then Moses took his people to the Red Sea and the people thought it was over since Pharaoh and his army were behind them.

Then Moses cast his rod into the Red Sea and it DIVIDED. The Red Sea was DIVIDED!

The people crossed .

And Pharaoh's army followed..... Then the Red Sea came together and drowned the pursuing army.

I hope no one gets killed when the present Red Sea gets together.

David Dumas

Carlos, you are a candidate for the 2020 Darwin Awards.

Carlos Ponce

Gee, after David Dumas has won the award for a2 years in a row I have to decline.

George Laiacona

Is Carlos still bragging about receiving word directly from his Republican God like Sara Palyn ?

Carlos Ponce

I NEVER posted that I receive "word directly from [a] Republican God". What I posted is that I am no prophet but I listen to those who who have a good track record and there are hundreds: men, women, Black white Hispanics, Asians, Americans and International, Protestant, Catholic Jewish.

One Black minister, Kynan Bridges, posted on Youtube that he had a word of knowledge from the Lord that Trump would get a second term but this would not be revealed for some time. Some have asked him to apologize given current events. His reply: "I don't apologize to demons."

Thomas Carpenter

I haven't had such a good laugh since a contributor wrote that she bought a new parrot and named it Carlos!

Charles Douglas

No Justice! No Peace! [angry]

Dan Freeman

Senator John Cornyn said it best and clearest: “President Trump’s legal team filed numerous lawsuits challenging the election outcome. But none of the legal arguments or evidence presented by the President’s legal team convinced the more than 50 state and federal courts that sat in judgment,”

“Every single lawsuit was eventually rejected, some on the merits, some on procedural grounds, both equally dispositive,” he continued. “These lawsuits were heard by well-respected jurists — many of whom were nominated by Trump himself.”

“President Trump’s legal team filed numerous lawsuits challenging the election outcome. But none of the legal arguments or evidence presented by the President’s legal team convinced the more than 50 state and federal courts that sat in judgment,”

“Every single lawsuit was eventually rejected, some on the merits, some on procedural grounds, both equally dispositive,” he continued. “These lawsuits were heard by well-respected jurists — many of whom were nominated by Trump himself.”

Get over it Ponce, Douglas, and Miller. Trump is a loser and now verges on sedition.

Charles Douglas

No Justice - No Peace! [angry][angry]

Carlos Ponce

Poor Dan, still upset that the vaccine was produced in less than a year when his expertise said it would take YEARS. Credibility is shot.

Cary Semar

I wonder if it is possible for anyone to post comments that are consistently so outrageous that they would be banned from the forum. Somewhere, there must be a line that cannot be crossed.

Thomas Carpenter

Cadet Bonespurs' legacy: a pandemic caused by his total incompetence, a shattered economy because of Bunker Boy's gross incompetence handling the virus, and domestic terrorists occupying the House and Senate because Bunker Boy can't stand the fact that the American people fired the grifter.

Carlos Ponce

Thomas Carpenter again reverts to name calling. And he tosses in fabrications. Very Progressive of you.

Stephanie Martin

Well said Mr. Miller!

Thomas Carpenter

Add the name traitor.

Thomas Carpenter

I notice you didn't deny the facts.

Carlos Ponce

What facts? There aren't any.

Charles Douglas

Traitor:

One who would take money from the Mayor of Moscow's wife in the millions while on an Air force Two official trip to Russia.

2) One who would sell his country out for an investment of over a Billion Dollars from Red China!

3) One who would sell American Workers out by giving their jobs and factories away to countries by way of stupid, unfair trade deals favoring other countries like Mexico, Canada, China, Japan, and South Korea by way of NAFTA, THE GREEN DEAL, and THE PARIS PEACE ACCORD!

4) One who would secretly send Army C130 Transport planes full to the brim with pallets loaded, .....LOADED from bottom to top, with cash to give IRAN, behind the American people's back under the cover of darkness. Much of this fresh cash was used to finance TERRORISM around the world, by IRAN even to kill Americans in some places!

5) One who consorted with, and was mentored by KKK RACISTS who were entrenched in the American Senate as servants or all Americans, BUT ...who helped them to form and pass laws to send Minorities, mostly AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO prison unproportionally for crimes committed by other demographics during the nineties! Known Racists like Senator James Eastland of Mississippi, Senator Fulbright of Arkansas, Senator Thurmond of South Carolina, Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia, and Senator Lyndon Johnson of Texas!

Charles Douglas

[smile]

Charles Douglas

Talking about Captain "Adolescent Asthma" who might have been a bigger " Draft Dodger" than Cadet Bonespurs! Anyway, he can't let draft-dodger come out of his mouth! I won't have it! Lolo.

Thomas Carpenter

'Biden will be declared president elect tonight. Bunker Boy's history, infamous history.

Carlos Ponce

Name calling again, Thomas Carpenter?

Charles Douglas

Watch it Mr. Carpenter. He will be declared the President Elect. One President at a time huh? Well even then Trump overcame and he endured everything the WORLD could throw at him, and he did his 4 years. Now one other thought. You sure China Joe will be President, or will Barry Obama be pulling his strings behind the scenes? I think it will be the latter, but I digress.

Blanca Bell

What a bunch of sore losers

Carlos Ponce

Yes, Bianca. No Democrat won in Galveston County and no Democrat won Statewide. That's why they're sore losers.

Bill S.

Very easy to claim victory when the video does not lie! Fraud, manipulation of votes, scads of absentee ballots in trucks. The Presidency of this Country was stolen - PERIOD!

Gary Miller

Bill> When did you stop watching CNN?

George Laiacona

As long as your news comes from the Fox News Network, Rush Limbaugh,and”Q”, you will persist to listen to the untruths generated by the Republicans in order to stay in power. We who are not affiliated with any political party understand your frustration .

Carlos Ponce

There you go with Jim's friend "Q" whatever that is..... Has anyone ever wondered why only Liberals post about this "Q"?

And FOX is under new management and is losing viewers because of a Liberal slant.

Jeff Patterson

Ok, so let me see if I get this..........to steal the presidential election, all it took was the coordination and cooperation of hundreds, if not thousands, of election officials and elected leaders across at least 6 states, and maybe more, some of whom I assume are Republican, dozens of state and federal judges, including the Supreme Court, and now Congress, and the VP, and this was aided/abetted by, in no particular order, Big Tech, the MSM, the DOJ, FBI, DHS, and I assume most all of the other alphabet agencies in the federal government, those same agencies in multiple states, the CCP, George Soros, Venezuela, Dominion Voting Systems, Smartmatic, and Hugo Chavez (may he RIP). And doing all of this with a Republican controlled administration and Senate, and a 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court. I mean, it is so stunningly simple I'm shocked that someone didn't think of doing it sooner..........

Bill Broussard

That’s right Jeff but only because they were distracted by being pedophiles. The whole bunch of them FBI Soros and anyone else associated with the “sleep plate” or is it “pleep skate”

To put it in perspective it only took three tubs of red, white and blue body paint, fifty Ford F150’s, a drunk Viking and folks with a tooth or two missing up front to illegally seize Congress while president Blubber watched em on TV and ate his cheeseburger

Good ol Carlos in a post above said he thought the ringleaders were really antifa and he hoped they would be caught and punished. Best as I can tell, then, Don jr and Rudy will be in Orange soon if Carlos gets his way

Carlos: 1,2,3,4........997,998,999,1000 unless Bailey wants larger denominations

Carlos Ponce

Bill, wearing a MAGA hat does not necessarily make you a Trump supporter. It does, however, make you look more intelligent.[beam]

Bill Broussard

That’s right Carlos: those bubbas climbing up scaffolding when there’s stairs next to them and that howdy doody in the Viking helmet look like real law and order types and I’m sure every one of them are MENSA members

I want everyone of those bright fellow prosecuted to the full extent of the law and if we’re lucky those geniuses will be their own legal council.

Bill Broussard

Watching yesterday, I thought you had probably taught most of them, Carlos. Good job!

Carlos Ponce

I never posted anything about "howdy doody" nor Viking helmet. That's your story. But think about the walls and scaffolds. Now look at the video of those Trump spoke to. It's not them.

Carlos Ponce

The peaceful protestors,,perhaps. I have not heard. Those who stormed the capital, no.

Bill Broussard

Person, woman, man, camera, TV.’

Carlos Ponce

Be careful, Bill Broussard! Pelosi has banned two of those words you used!

George Laiacona

Carlos it’s time for you to climb under a rock and wait for your version of God’s will to take place.

Carlos Ponce

Why George? It's my duty to relay the Word of the Lord as a christian. It will still happen no matter where I am but I think highly of my neighbors. [beam]

Jeff Patterson

So I’m a big fan of Carlos’ commenting style and don’t agree with much of what he posts, and it does get very annoying after a while, but when we resort to ad hominem attacks, it debases the whole forum. Let’s don’t get personal, and if you don’t like what someone posts (and posts and posts and posts...), just ignore it and move on. You don’t have to participate in every argument you get invited to.

Carlos Ponce

No, you don't, so why do you? AS for me, I'm on a MISSION FROM GOD.[innocent]

Gary Miller

Jim> Yes China money bought every one needed. Not all you list but just the top of each.

David Alquest

Mr. Miller, I am accusing you of inciteful language stirring up hatred and anger and spreading lies to those who read the irrational nonsense you believe. What an awful thing to write. How unAmerican! Do you think you can go around and stir up such anger by making false statements that should not go unchecked. I am glad you are not my neighbor.

Gary Miller

David> your MSM says I am wrong. To me that proves I am right.

Ted Gillis

Gary’s been writing stuff like this for years. Most of it’s just ignored.

Carlos Ponce

As the Jews in concentration camps told their NAZI captives, "Die Gedanken sind frei". Gary Miller, hang in there. The Liberals in these forums feel empowered to attack those who do not fall in line with their way of thinking. They want a "Liberals Only" forum. That's fascist.

Thomas Carpenter

Weber needs to resign.

Carlos Ponce

Leave it up to the voters to decide, Thomas Carpenter.

Last vote count:

Randy Weber 138,942 votes 59.24%

Adrienne Bell 92,212 votes 39.32%

Don Conley III 3,374 votes 1.44%

Congressional District 14 likes him. [beam]

Thomas Carpenter

Five dead.

Carlos Ponce

May they rest in peace.

Gary Miller

One shot by Capital Police, three died of natural cause, one died in hospital from unidentified cause.

Bill Broussard

FBI got another one of those Antifa critters Yesterday, Carlos. retired Lieutenant Colonel Larry Rendall Brock, Jr., a Texas-based Air Force Academy graduate and combat veteran.

This one was running around with garbage bag plastic fasteners in his hand and his Air Force flak vest on all dressed up with a MAGA patch on his arm for the camera. He’s awaiting charges as I write this. Clearly one of them long haired anti-any kind of government Antifa types

Unless of course you are correct in your asserting Antifa was the catalyst. In that case, this West Point graduate is just dumb as a post

Carlos Ponce

"Clearly one of them long haired anti-any kind of government Antifa types" Look at the video, they're not long haired.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. I know you speak to God frequently and Gary of course speaks like God so here’s a message from someone who would be God if poor ol Mike Pence didn’t believe in a different God. This does my heart good and brings joy!

, Twitter@realdonaldtrump

Anarchists, Agitators or Protestors who vandalize or damage our Federal Courthouse in Portland or any Federal building in any of our cities or States, will be prosecuted under our recently enacted Statues and Monuments act. MINIMUM Of TEN YEARS IN PRISON. DON’T DO IT!

07/27/20

Carlos Ponce

Big difference between trespassing and destruction, Bill. Video shows Trump Patriots telling the Antifa rioters to stop. But this video will never be seen on Liberal media.

Those who broke things, took things in the Capitol Building should be punished for what they did.

Trespassers should be punished for what they did.

Liberal media lumps both groups together no differentiating what crime of which they are accused.

Statues and Monuments Act:

"Sec. 2. Policy. (a) It is the policy of the United States to prosecute to the fullest extent permitted under Federal law, and as appropriate, any person or any entity that destroys, damages, vandalizes, or desecrates a monument, memorial, or statue within the United States or otherwise vandalizes government property."

If they were just trespassing, that is a different charge. The Act does not apply. No ten years imprisonment for that charge.

Carlos Ponce

They announced the maximum sentence applicable allowed for a man who took a selfie in Speaker Pelosi's office - ONE YEAR.

Bailey Jones

Nothing says ANTIFA like "lives in an affluent suburb of Dallas."

George Laiacona

Democrats cheated ! Just more fake news by the Republicans who have become sore losers as they did when Obama won.

Gary Miller

George> Millions saw the cheating before MSM tried to hide it.

Carlos Ponce

I just saw a video from a nationally known evangelist who said the proof is there but those who have the proof lives are threatened. I almost posted the link but stopped because of the madness that has gripped our Liberal friends. Hint: The man has appeared at Abundant Life in La Marque.

Bill Broussard

I just watched a video of Wonder Woman and she saved the world but I don’t believe it nor do I believe yours, Carlos

I think the Donald is going to try and salvage what’s left of his brand so we should give this a rest and hope there’s no more insurrection

Jeff Patterson

Wow, this is amazing news.....quick, somebody find the Kraken, that sucker has some work to do!

Bill Broussard

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Jim Forsythe

In most cases, individuals diagnosed with Narcissitic Personality Disorder (NPD) or who have features of NPD do not believe their lies are true. But this is only if they are consciously aware they are lying. If they choose to tell lies than they do so for a multitude of reasons such as not wanting to look bad, to appear more grandiose, to make others look bad, etc...But there are incidents where an individual with NPD can re-tell a story or incident that appears to be a lie, but in their minds this is how it happened, so to them they are not lying. The reason for this is because the individuals with NPD (or features of NPD) will sometimes see things from a different perspective, be in denial and not recognize certain events, or their personality has caused warped their viewpoint to be in a perspective where they are never wrong (i.e. this can be similar to denial).

So overall if a person with NPD knowingly is telling a lie, than they typically will not believe their lies. But if they are not knowingly telling a lie, but what they are saying is false than it could be their own narcissim has warped their viewpoint/perspective to not truly see what is going on.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. This is in response to your comment to me about two posts above

First, if there is such a video that shows Antifa destroying and encouraging please tell us where we can find it. Please

Second I suspect President Trump’s justice department would be more than a little interested also so move on this fast

Third. I find your narrative hilarious since it’s chapter and verse right out of the liberal media saying the New York and Portland does not represent the majority of BLM demonstrators. That’s just too funny to watch you plagiarized the libs

Finally, trespassing huh? Who said that one year stuff? And....how long do they get for murder and collusion with murder?

I’m done here. Well just watch and wait but for now the White House is safe, they took the Donald off Twitter because of the chatter for your boys and girls to do it again on the 20th but I’m ever so happy that he’s gone from everything and....

Come the 20th don’t you owe Bailey something? You gonna welch like your man does with contractors?

Carlos Ponce

As far as the videos as soon as they're posted they're taken down by the media moguls.

The man in question is Richard Barnett. Several sources state his possible sentence like:

"Barnett faces up to one year in prison on the charges and was set to go before a judge in Arkansas on Friday."

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-capitol-riot-pelosi-richard-barnett-arrest-20210108-ks3eimrcpzbhpiepq3ndft3nhe-story.html

and

"If convicted, Barnett faces a maximum penalty of one year in prison, according to a statement released by the U.S. Department of Justice.

'Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties,' the statement reads."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/if-convicted-what-could-richard-barnetts-sentence-be/ar-BB1cARWg

And this from the Justice Department:

"If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of one year in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-arrested-illegally-entering-office-speaker-house

Murder is a different charge, a different person.. If they find the person then we'll know.

Bill Broussard

Thanks for the reference, Carlos. I might be very wrong about this those charges are great “holding” charges under this justice department. I suspect Garlands will pile it on commensurate with what President Trump said about Portland. We'll just have to wait and see

Carlos Ponce

If the DOJ wants to add to the charges and penalties already posted, they can ,but Barnett's lawyer will say they are political in nature and they'd have a good case then the whole thing may be tossed.

Gary Miller

Bill> Millions saw the cheating before MSM tried to hid it. Some people copyed what they saw. The Evidence is still available on other sources.

Bill Broussard

Here’s a trespasser. Sad

After a long but undistinguished military career and years of personal travails, Babbitt — a 35-year-old Air Force veteran from Southern California who once supported Barack Obama — believed she had found a cause that gave her life purpose. Within hours, that cause would bring her life

It was Babbitt, fatally shot by police as she attempted to leap through the broken window of a door inside the Capitol, whose name would almost instantly become synonymous with the feverish movement that had propelled thousands of Americans to desecrate a pillar of their government.

She avidly followed the QAnon conspiracy theory, convinced that Trump was destined to vanquish a cabal of child abusers and Satan-worshiping Democrats. She believed Wednesday would be “the storm,” when QAnon mythology holds that Trump would capture and execute his opponents

Bill Broussard

“capture and execute his opponents”

Bill Broussard

The guy at Pelosi’s desk:

Barnett, 60, who goes by the nickname “Bigo,” was charged with three counts of entering restricted grounds, violent entry and disorderly conduct at the Capitol and theft of public property, Kohl said.

Then the guy carrying the podium around

Johnson was charged with "one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority; one count of theft of government property; and one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds."

And that’s just a start Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

Here's the Justice Department Report on him:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/man-arrested-illegally-entering-office-speaker-house

"Barnett is charged with knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority; violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds; and theft of public money, property, or records. If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of one year in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors."

Jim Forsythe

Bill, I would not want to be Barnett, and the rest, as the penalties can be huge. “all options were on the table” for charges, including possibly sedition. Below are two examples of how many years they may get.

In 1936, Pedro Albizu Campos, a Puerto Rican Nationalist, and nine others were charged with forcibly attempting to overthrow the Government of the United States in Puerto Rico and were jailed for 10 years in Atlanta, Georgia.

In 1980, Puerto Rican Nationalist Carmen Valentín Pérez and nine other women and men were charged with seditious conspiracy for attempting to overthrow the government of the United States in Puerto Rico, and were each given sentences of up to 90 years in prison.

The prosecutor will not be happy, and most likely go for the maximum.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, the Department of Justice has already posted on their government website the maximum fine for Barnett is one year in prison with the caveat that it could be less.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. That’s not the justice department three weeks from now

Carlos Ponce

AS I posted, Barnet's lawyers would have an excellent case that any additional charges or penalties are political in nature and they will probably toss out the entire case.

Ted Gillis

Carlos wants these guys released with just a slap on the wrist.

Carlos Ponce

Ted, you know that back on Wednesday January 6, I called for them to be identified, charged, jailed and tried. Don't you remember when you told be to "SHUT UP"?

Gary Miller

Get real y'all! 75 million legal voters know and believe Democrats cheated to elect China Joe. We have seen the evidence MSM tries to hide. Obama created Trump, Trump created a new political party which may be called the"Patriot Party". Thrump's legacy will be the Patriot Party composed of his 75 million supporters and new recruits added by conduct of the China Joe administration. Patriots will sign up to compete in both the DNC and RNC primaries for the 2022 midterm elections. 30 red states will add to their numbers while 7 blue states will continue to lose population. Socialists and RINO Republicans will be eliminated in a RED wave greater than 2010. The conservative evolution of America will continue. The difference between evolution and revolution is a revolution can be overturned but evolution just keeps evolving without reversing.

Ted Gillis

Well Gary, I hope you feel better after getting that heap of horse hooey off your chest.

Carlos Ponce

Ted Gillis, you come across as a bully. Was Scott Farkus your mentor?

Gary Miller

Ted> Thank you. I really do.

Ted Gillis

Who is that, the guy that used to beat you up after school?

Carlos Ponce

No one beat me up after school. He hassled me in junior high and 40 years after sent me an apology. When are you going to apologize, Ted? Teddy Roosevelt must have known people like you: "BULLY! BULLY!"

Gary Miller

When I was in school there was a bully. I whipped the bully and his partner. My new friends were able to keep lunch money after that

Doug Sivyer

Plenty of evidence you say? Then why were 46 tRump court filings up to the Supreme Court thrown out for LACK OF what you call "pleanty of eveidence"? Your continued false allegations of election fraud are kin to the incitement of insurrection assault on this nation we just experienced, perpetrated by your boi Donnie and his dispicable domestic terriorist klan of low lifes and other tRumpanzee supporters. STOP YOUR destructive rhetoric NOW!

Carlos Ponce

The cases thrown out had NO evidentiary hearings.

Bill Broussard

Jake the Viking hatted nut job known as the QShaman on the senate floor appears to have a dangerous alternative identity that suggests there is some truth to Carlos’ words

In an attempt to suggest they are not to blame for the shocking attacks on the Capitol, a number of desperate QAnon supporters have suggested that the Q Shaman is actually antifa.

As well as pointing out that he has appeared at Black Lives Matter protests, others have also suggested the tattoos on his hands shows his allegiance to antifa.

Mike Rothschild, a conspiracy theory debunker, also tweeted: a rumor is bubbling up that the Q Shaman is not only a secret ANTIFA, but is married to Nancy Pelosi's daughter

One of the main QAnon figureheads to have pushed the claim that Angeli is antifa was Lin Wood, the pro-Trump QAnon supporting attorney who has the abbreviation of its slogan "where we go one we go all" in the bio of his now suspended Twitter account.

Wood, who worked with fellow QAnon-supporting lawyer Sidney Powell in the widely dismissed "Kraken" lawsuits attempting to overturn election results, tweeted to his 1.1 million followers a picture of the Q Shaman at a BLM rally in June, claiming his name is Spencer Sunshine and that antifa has therefore "infiltrated" the protest in Washington, D.C.

In response to Angeli's denial, Twitter user @Pauliegraph wrote: "Look how quickly these nut jobs turn on you, enjoy your view from under the bus. You're the sacrificial lamb for their (im)plausible deniability."

This would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragic I’m tempted to say you can’t make this stuff up but apparently you can

Carlos Ponce

Trump Patriots were there following the crowd. But the black attired men who attacked the police and broke windows, etc started "Shouting "Black Lives Matter!" anyone with common sense would know who they are. The Trump Patriots knew there were wolves in the fold.

Bill Broussard

Carlos: why not give this guy a call and tell him it’ll only be a year. Help your fellow man out!

A rioter who was photographed hanging from the balcony of the Senate Chamber has begged for forgiveness, saying he got "caught up in it”

The man—identified by local media as Josiah Colt, from Boise, Idaho—said his actions had been inappropriate and that he had not intended to "stain on our great Country's Democratic process."

His apology comes after he bragged about his rampage through the U.S. Capitol.

In a video posted on Instagram shortly after his rampage, Colt used a derogatory slur to refer to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and called her "a traitor."

The 34-year-old also claimed he was the first to sit in the Democrat's chair, however the seat would have been that of Vice President Mike Pence.

On Thursday, however, Colt said he had "brought shame upon myself" and is now seeking legal advice.

Carlos Ponce

Bill, he has a lawyer. I don't have to call him. He already knows.

Bill Broussard

Here’s another one of those Antifa folks. All this time I thought it was a loosely strung together few folks but it’s getting to look like perhaps 8,000-9000 people! Why, two Seattle police have been suspended pending investigation of their involvement and now two NYFD folks also. Then there’s this guy

A rioter who stormed the US Capitol Wednesday wearing a sweatshirt emblazoned with the phrase "Camp Auschwitz" has been identified as Robert Keith Packer of Virginia, according to three sources.

An image of Packer inside the Capitol, whose sweatshirt bore the name of the Nazi concentration camp where about 1.1 million people were killed during World War II, has evoked shock and disbelief on social media. The bottom of his shirt stated, "Work brings freedom," which is the rough translation of the phrase "Arbeit macht frei" that was on the concentration camp's gates.

Virginia court records show that Packer has a criminal history that includes three convictions for driving under the influence and a felony conviction for forging public records.

Pure anti-establishment types !

Carlos Ponce

"but it’s getting to look like perhaps 8,000-9000 people!" A hyperbolic number, Bill. Oh, that's right, just like Biden's numbers - inflated.

Bill Broussard

Not at all like Biden’s numbers Carlos. It’s the numbers estimated of the number of nit wits that ravaged the Capitol. And by the way, video’s clearly show people hammering police and breaking windows to get in. The banners strung all over the outside should qualify as defacing the monument I think that matches President Trump’s definition of ten years minimum. I remain hopeful. Wolf resigned too today. The problem in DC was just a little bit above his capacity I guess. But we knew his capacity already. What a mess your grand leader is leaving behind. Well, the PGA, Marriott, Twitter and Facebook and Airbnb are a good start

Carlos Ponce

All this will be turned around.

Bill Broussard

I’m sure your right Carlos. It always does

Kyle Gainer-Lewis

This bickering between left and right is somewhat entertaining however I’d like to challenge “Americans” to come together as one. We should all be concerned with these recent censorship by big tech & media corporations! While on the surface it looks nice to silence people we disagree with ... especially when you keep hearing the same mantra chanted over and over from both sides. I implore all of us to focus on what is really going on here. If China is not infiltrating the USA as I suspect; there’s certainly China like tactics being implemented. Currently the censorship appears to target the right, history suggests it is only a matter of time before the left is targeted. We all need to wake up & work together! Our cherished freedoms and rights are at risk!

Carlos Ponce

Nice post except for the part where "China is not infiltrating the USA. Are you aware that "China Daily" a publication of the Chines Communist Party is being delivered to Congressmen?

"Freshman House Member Demands Pelosi Explain Why Chinese Government’s Newspaper is Coming to Congressional Offices"

https://www.mediaite.com/news/freshman-house-member-demands-pelosi-explain-why-chinese-governments-newspaper-is-coming-to-congressional-offices/

More sources if you do not like that one. This has been going on for a while.

Bailey Jones

There are no "freedoms and rights" when it comes to private media. The First Amendment protects media companies from government censorship, it doesn't protect you from media censorship. It doesn't matter whether you're a bakery in Colorado, the GCND, or a multinational social media site - the printer determines what gets printed.

It would be great if we lived in a world where everyone followed the Buddha's rules for speech -

Is it kind?

Is it necessary?

Is it honest?

Does it improve upon the silence?

But we don't. There's always someone who wants to burn down the house. The government can't step in, so it's up to the media to formulate "terms and conditions" for users to follow, and to be responsible for the consequences of what they publish.

Carlos Ponce

"There are no 'freedoms and rights' when it comes to private media." There is. There are proper channels to go through to complain and some involve the government.

Bill Broussard

Re: this specific concern, we have to keep in mind the constitution is first and foremost a contract between our government and the people. The constitution usually does not apply if the interaction is between the people and a private business. While the relationship between people and a business can generate legislation like the fair housing acts , there is currently no laws that regulate a persons use of a private website to my knowledge. Twitter is a private company

Gary Miller

Kyle> Yes.

Kenneth Diestler

One discrepancy I find difficult to reconcile--one anonymous whistle blower about a Ukraine phone call was enough to lead to impeachment but thousands of signed affidavits saying they witnessed voter fraud is not enough to investigate to insure election integrity or at least to calm the fears and anger of half the population. Does not compute in a logical mind but no one ever said politics is logical.

Bailey Jones

Elections are state affairs - and the fact that state legislatures (of both parties) aren't instigating serious investigations, and the fact that state party organizations aren't mounting serious challenges to the elections in the courts, and the fact that the DOJ isn't bringing court challenges against state election commissions all speak to the same simple fact. "Massive voter fraud" is a myth invented by the president, and promoted by the president, his lackeys, and his social media echo chamber.

"thousands of signed affidavits saying they witnessed voter fraud" have so far yielded only eyewitnesses who misunderstood the process that they are observing, or small acts of fraud that would have no effect on the results - the 2 dead people who voted in Georgia, for instance. If there is anything in these "thousands of signed affidavits saying they witnessed voter fraud" one has to believe that the most powerful man on the planet with all of the resources of the DOJ and FBI would be arresting and indicting people. But if you notice, what the president talks about in his rallies and tweets isn't FBI investigations or DOJ reports, but what he believes "based on what I've heard", as he put it in the Georgia phone call.

Jeff Patterson

Yep, all those state and federal court judges just got together and decided gee, we’re just gonna ignore all the evidence that gets brought to us; oh, and they talked to the Supreme Court, and they decided to do that too. Gosh, who knew this presidential election stealing stuff was so simple. Remember you don't automatically receive an evidentiary hearing.........your evidence first has to pass the basic smell test, which, evidently, none of it did. Also, in many of the cases, there was no claim of fraud actually made; even the lawyers knew the evidence wasn't credible enough to present. Way too much hype and gaslighting still going on.

Bailey Jones

Even Republican congress peeps have dropped the "thousands of affidavits" nonsense. Now they only talk about how some states changed their voting laws (for COVID) using procedures that (they claim) violated the states' constitutions, not even that those changes in the laws affected the outcome of the election.

This is such a sad state of affairs. The president could have given the nation a great Christmas present - by just spending his last month playing golf and tweeting about how life isn't fair. But no. He just had to call up Georgia and try to pressure them into illegally flipping the election. He just had to try to force Pence to illegally seize extra-constitutional powers to flip the election. He just had to try to force Congress to nullify the certified will of the American people. He just had to invite 100,000s of angry aggrieved followers who he has convinced that the Democrats (and the courts, and the media, and the deep state, and big tech) have engineered a coup to rob them of their country to descend on DC, and then he just had to send them marching on to the Capitol where a mob committed insurrection - beating police with American flagpoles, and chasing 70-year-old congresswomen through the capitol with handcuffs. And now instead of a clean start with a new administration after a truly horrible year - he's left us with this colossal mess to clean up.

But at least he's made it simple for historians - #worstpresidentever

Jeff Patterson

Either Trump had the worst lawyers in the history of lawyering, and there was a vast coordinated conspiracy involving dozens, if not hundreds of judges (some appointed by Trump, including 3 Supreme Court justices), AND thousands of election officials and elected state officials, AND all the investigative power of the federal government and multiple state governments, OR......there was no systemic election fraud that swayed the election.

Bill Broussard

The only possible claim to election manipulation is that an elected official changed some election protocols because of an out of control pandemic and it should have been the state legislature ...something like a more permissive mail in ballot procedure

First, the degree of death and destruction is directly related to the negligence of this administration so it sowed the terrible seed of its own destruction

Second many governors-including ours-changed things because of the pandemic under Emergancy powers. Remember, we added days to early voting and drop off sites under court orders but somehow didn’t get on trumps s@&$ list

This entire conversation manifests the same degree of civic intelligence that got the man elected in the first place

The only difference being republicans like Those in elected positions in Georgia no longer are listened to by the republicans who elected them

Bailey Jones

If you want a Trump supporter to get the difference between "sworn affidavits" and "adjudicated evidence" just mention any of the several affidavits and depositions of sexual misconduct sworn to by his numerous female accusers. They catch on real fast.

Carlos Ponce

Jeff Patterson posts, "Yep, all those state and federal court judges just got together and decided gee, we’re just gonna ignore all the evidence that gets brought to us; oh, and they talked to the Supreme Court, and they decided to do that too.'

Wonderful! He gets it. You forgot to mention Chief Justice Roberts' profanity laced rant in which he refused to hear the case because he did not want to see Antifa destroy the cities.

Carlos Ponce

"and there was a vast coordinated conspiracy involving dozens, if not hundreds of judges..." Jeff gets it RIGHT again! Give the man a PRIZE!

Carlos Ponce

"just mention any of the several affidavits and depositions of sexual misconduct sworn to by his numerous female accusers. "

Those filed against Trump by Stormy Daniels resulted in Stephanie Clifford paying Trump. And the rest were filed by Democrat women who had a business grudge against him.

But the one filed against Big Guy Biden was filed by a fellow Democrat.....

Jeff Patterson

I wonder if I should try to explain the concept of satire to Carlos..... nah

Carlos Ponce

Don't try satire unless you know how to do it properly. You do not.

James C.

Kenneth, for those on the Left politics has become religion. No amount of logic can get through when that is the case. Their self-righteous indignation toward the rest of us is justified, in their minds, because we are hateful, racist, homophobic, etc. and there is no room for tolerance of those who do not see the light. [sad]

Gary Miller

Kenneth> Who woke you? You sound like a new MAGA/Patriot recruit.

Bill Broussard

Here’s a thought directly from the religious fanatics on the left:

You cannot call for violence," said Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg Monday, in an interview with Reuters Next explaining why she de-platformed Trump.

"In this moment, the risk to our democracy was too big. We felt that we had to take the unprecedented step of an indefinite ban, and I’m glad that we did."

American capitalism is based on a foundation of legal contracts, all of which ultimately rely on the strength and stability of the government.

When a sitting president threatens that stability by inciting an insurrectionist mob that storms the legislature, corporate America will do everything in its power to restrain him.

Tech giants including Facebook, Google, Amazon and Twitter have moved to quiet Trump and the far right. Other corporations are pulling political funding from all legislators who supported overturning the result of November's free and fair election.

And all of this has happened before the House of Representatives can even schedule an impeachment vote.

tics on the left:

Bailey Jones

When I was in high school I sent a few bucks off to an ad in the back of Rolling Stone magazine to get ordained as a priest. I wonder if I still have my certificate?

Carlos Ponce

Bailey Jones, Minister of the Church of Humanist Secularism.

Ted Gillis

Well James C., you are perceptive. We all on the left do feel that most conservatives are hateful, racist and homophobic. The conservative commenters on this forum have seen to that.

James C.

Mr. Gillis, I read the posts on this board and must say that most of the animus comes from the left. Your posts stand tall amongst them.

Ted Gillis

And most of our animus is defensive.

Carlos Ponce

Don't be so humble, Ted. You know you're full of offensive animus.

Ted Gillis

And just to add on, most of us democrats really took exception to the years of hateful false birth certificate comments by Donald Trump, Mark Meadows and others like them long before the 2016 campaign ever started. Mark Meadows even ran for office on the promise of sending Barack Obama back to Kenya. Yes, we have good memories, and if we sometimes seem hateful, then so be it.

Bill Broussard

“ You forgot to mention Chief Justice Roberts' profanity laced rant in which he refused to hear the case because he did not want to see Antifa destroy the cities.”

Carlos. You got my attention. I would like to read this. Can I get a reference from you as to where?

Carlos Ponce

"Justice John Roberts stated that he would make sure 'the mother f#*ker would never be re-elected'. Roberts engaged in phone conversations with Justice Stephen Breyer discussing how to work to get Trump voted out.” Lawandcrime.com

Bailey Jones

Best with a large grain of salt.

https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/supreme-smear-lin-wood-goes-full-q-in-bonkers-tweets-telling-800000-plus-followers-that-chief-justice-roberts-called-trump-a-motherfer-on-a-phone-call/

Jeff Patterson

Oh, but if Lin Wood says it’s true, you can take it to the (Deutsche) bank....

Carlos Ponce

Check Lin Wood's source.......or didn't your article tell you?

Jeff Patterson

Yep, Lin Wood......now there's a credible source for you

Carlos Ponce

Did you check where Lin Wood got the story? Of course not. You are afreaid of the truth.

Bill Broussard

Carlos. I went to the article website you gave us and I didn’t see anything that looked like a reliable source. Just wood saying he had a source but couldn’t identify him/her. Do you have more exacting information?

Carlos Ponce

Since I did not provide a website link that means you are looking in the WRONG place. Keep looking!

Bill Broussard

House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney (Wyo.), the No. 3 Republican in the House, announced Tuesday that she plans to vote to impeach President Trump for inciting a violent mob at the Capitol last week.”

Carlos Ponce

No surprise here. Not a wise move.

Bill Broussard

Sorry Carlos:

U.S. prosecutors are ramping up the investigation into last week’s riot at the Capitol, with more than 170 suspects under scrutiny and law enforcement officials planning charges of sedition and conspiracy.

Law enforcement officials are treating the riot “like an international counter-terrorism investigation,” Acting U.S. Attorney in Washington Michael Sherwin said at a press conference Tuesday. “We’re looking at everything -- money, travel records. No resource will be unchecked.”

Carlos Ponce

Let them check. And I wish they would differentiate between trespassers, attackers of police and destroyers of property. They only have about 70 actually named.

Carlos Ponce

And while they're atit, differentiate between Trump Patriots and those who are not. Was it you who posted there were between 7000 and 8000?

Bill Broussard

It was. That’s the number mentioned in various news articles. There just getting started and so far, no Antifa but keep your fingers crossed

Just learned deutch bank baled on him today. This is not going to be pretty for some time to come especially if we have repeats around the 16th

Bailey Jones

He can pay the $340,000,000 he owes Deutsche Bank out of all that money he's raised from his devotees since the election.

Carlos Ponce

No, they're under orders not to touch the Antifas. It wouldn't fid their narrative. They are still listed among the 100 "unknown".[rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

Bailey needs a lesson in business.

Bill Broussard

And short napoleon complex folks versus tall Olympic medal winners. Also, men versus women and evangelicals versus Jewish. I guess you would also want those who wear glasses versus those who have contacts

Frankly, I hope they don’t splice and dice since the crowd obviously wanted to lump themselves together. Let’s give em what they want

I think they also have a lead on the murderer.

Ted Gillis

Hometown Hallmark not only decided to cease all political contributions to Josh Hawley, but asked for all previous donations made to him to be returned!

I guess their return on investment was less than promised.

Bill Broussard

Maybe hawley’s next gig can be one of those romances on the Hallmark Channel. Something like “I look my Emotional Age” or “ Looking for Liars in all the Right Places”

Gary Miller

222 socialist democrats and 10 RINO republicans voted for a REVENGE impeachment of Trump. Solidifying Trump as the leader of the Patriot/MAGA party. The Patriot/ MAGA party now has a complete list of people and their districts to target in the 2022 midterm elections. Trump failed to drain the DC swamp. Patriot/MAGA will get it done. Without ever running again Trump can watch the movement he built achieve his dream.

DANIEL PICKETT

A good start at draining the swamp will begin on January 20, 2021.

Bailey Jones

Most bipartisan impeachment in HISTORY, Gary. He really is uniting the country!

Carlos Ponce

The 10 RINOS represent districts where Trump won handily. They will face opposition in their next primary. None were from Texas. Only one high profile Liz Cheney. She is Wyoming's only member of Congress. In Wyoming Trump beat Biden 193,559 to 73,491. That's better than two to one.

Karen Sawyer

Democrats claimed Republicans cheated last time around. Just like Republicans told the Democrats, it's now Democrats turn to say "BIDEN IS YOUR PRESIDENT. DEAL WITH IT!"

Gary Miller

Computer experts trying to define Dominion voting machines fed equal thousands of ballots to several identical Dominion machines. With equal ballots entered they gave Biden 6.8 % more votes than Trump. Not proof of corruption according to MSM? Who is lying? The computer experts or MSM?

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