In response to the guest column by Bob Fields ("Trump's failures far outweigh his accomplishments," The Daily News, Dec. 2): I can understand the paper printing just about anything from its readers as "commentary," but I'm sad this paper will print anything with no regard for accuracy.

Trump didn't pass the original Affordable Care Act plan, Democrats did. Trump didn't fail to repeal this bad program, mostly Democrats did. Why blame Trump? Saying Trump "failed to force Mexico to build" the wall, isn't true either since several funding sources are in the works and the only people who failed to build the wall are the past presidents and past elected officials in Washington. 

So, with limited words let's discuss the real issue here: Santa Claus ... why do we allow him to force elves to live at the North Pole and work without union representation and decent wages and benefits? Why is Congress allowing this person to enter millions of homes and placing unknown wrapped packages where children have access to them? It's the liberal press that allows these poor reindeer to struggle pulling this fat undocumented alien ignoring borders, occupying restricted air space and eating unhealthy foods and exploiting little people.

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Carlos Ponce

I agree with the first part of your letter but the second.......[whistling]

Bailey Jones

Oh sure - it's easy to take pot shots at President Trump. Really, really, easy, But what about the one promise he's delivered on - draining the swamp?
I'm sure others can correct me if I've left anyone out, but this is the list I have so far:

His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.
His former campaign manager and long time Republican operative, Paul Manafort.
His former policy adviser, George Papadopoulos.
Manafort's right-hand man Konstantin Kilimnik.
Republican lobbyist Sam Patten.
Rick Gates, one of Manafort's business partners.
Trump's former national security adviser, Michael Flynn.
Alex van der Zwaan, Manafort's bud and lawyer to Russian oligarchs.
A dozen members of Russia's CIA who broke into DNC computers and leaked emails that helped swing the election to Trump..
Roger Stone, a longtime friend and a former campaign aide to President Donald Trump - not indicted yet, but pleading the fifth which, according to Trump is something only mobsters do.
Carl Icahn, Trump's special adviser (conflicts of interest)
Sebastian Gorka, Trump's deputy assistant (security clearance issues)
George David Banks -Trump's special adviser (pothead)
Kelly Sadler - Trump's communication adviser (mocking a dying war hero)
John McEntee - personal aide to President Trump (escorted out due to "security issues" but immediately hired by Trump's reelection campaign so maybe this one doesn't count)
Rob Porter - Trump's white house secretary (domestic abuse)
Hope Hicks - Trump's director of communications (telling "white lies")
Omarosa Manigault Newman - Seriously I have no idea, but Trump hired her for some reason
David Sorensen - Trump's speech writer (domestic abuse)
Ronny Jackson - Trump's doctor (bit of a drinker)
Elizabeth Erin Walsh - Commerce (escorted out for "security issues")
Chris Garcia - Minority Business guy (failed security clearance)
Tom Price - HHS (abuse of tax payer's money)
Brenda Fitzgerald - CDC (because irony)
Jeff Sessions - Trump's attorney general (according to Trump, the best guy for the job and the worst guy for the job)
David Shulkin - VA (abuse of tax payer funds)
Carl Higbie (racist)
Scott Pruitt - EPA (abuse of tax payer funds and general cartoonishness)

And we're only 2 years in.

Carlos Ponce

Not many on your list are "Swamp dwellers".
I recommend the book "Donald Drains the Swamp".
Interesting you describe one as a "pothead". Since two former Democrat presidents also smoked pot. One described himself as part of a "Choom gang".
And by the way, Mueller gave Michael Flynn no prison time. Flynn "cooperated" but provided no information on any alleged collusion.

Paula Flinn

Mueller suggested no prison time because the truthful statements Gen. Flynn provided were so important and revealing, and they were redacted for the public. Personally, I think that he should get some prison time for lying to the FBI. He admitted to that and “spilled his guts” to avoid prison. The llies he told about Hillary and his chant of “Lock her up,” were particularly reprehensible and beneath a General in the military.

Carlos Ponce

And Paula will go Joy Behar on us when charges are brought against Hillary.[rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

Insiders say what Flynn revealed was nothing about collusion, nothing about Trump. Just overreach by Team Mueller.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos. Are you privy to Mr. Flynn’s actual testimony, or is this just another recitation of a Hannity monologue?

Carlos Ponce

I have friends in the DC area. Let me leave it at that.[beam]

Emile Pope

And the market's crashed...tired of winning yet?

Victor Krc

The current severe market slump is being caused by the economic slowdown in Europe and Asia. Our economy is still doing quite well and the risk of a recession is negligible . Since so many of our large companies are multi-national any slowdowns in foreign economies will affect their stocks' market value, but this is does not mean the US economy is weak, quite the contrary. By the way, the extra funds that companies get from tax cuts is not squirreled away in some super secret money bin that corporate managers and stockholders go to frolic around in. The money is used for more productive purposes than what the government can use it for and we can see that in the vast improvement in the unemployment numbers.

Emile Pope

Garbage. The market dropped 799 points in one day. That's the second or third time it's done that this year and the market is lower than it was at the beginning of the year. That's a crash everywhere but in Fantasyland...or trumpland...

Carlos Ponce

Emile,
A 10% drop in stocks from its 52-week high over days, weeks, or even months is called a STOCK MARKET CORRECTION
A CRASH is more than that. It is a abrupt double-digit percentage drop in a stock index over the course of a few days.
The highest Dow Jones Industrial Average's highest closing record is 26,828.39 set on October 3, 2018.
After yesterday's drop it is 25,027.07, a drop of 1799.32 or 6.7% off the year's high.
Not a crash, not even a correction.
Year-to-date the Dow is up +1.25%.
Yesterday it dropped 3.1%.
That CRASH you heard was the sound of your credibility.

Carlos Ponce

Source:
http://www.dow-jones-djia.com/2018/12/05/djia-market-happenings-for-wednesday-december-5-2018/

Carlos Ponce

Emile is now making things up. The market did not crash.It dropped over uncertainty with the Chinese trade deal. Most of it was computer generated, not those on the floor.

Keith Gray

Carlos, that is exactly what economic experts reported today at the Greater Houston Partnership luncheon today. Their overall report... all is well...

Emile Pope

Garbage. The market is less than it was at the beginning of the year. The market is less than it was at the start of the year. The market is lower than it was at the beginning of the year. Facts don't lie...

Carlos Ponce

Emile posts, "The market is less than it was at the beginning of the year."
According to the Dow Jones link provided earlier, "Year-to-date the Dow is up +1.25%".
Did you even BOTHER to look up the link? Again, if you heard a CRASH, it was your credibility.

Emile Pope

Market's down again. Heard this before? Tell Wall Street how much we're succeeding...

Carlos Ponce

At the time of your post, the stock market hasn't evened opened, Emile.

Carlos Ponce

That is, unless you're posting about the London and German Stock markets. NYSE and Nasdaq open at 9:30 am EST (that's 8:30 our time).

Emile Pope

Futures market...now it's REALLY down...

Emile Pope

Down 1,000 points from where it was the beginning of the year. That's called a crash....

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, the pre market was all ready open nmd it was down. It's not looking good for today.
The Dow declined 450 points, or 1.8%, at Thursday's open. The S&P 500 lost 1.8%, while the Nasdaq plunged 2%. The latest sign of tension between Washington and Beijing also sent shudders through global markets. Hong Kong's Hang Seng plunged 2.5% overnight, while European stock markets declined sharply as well.
Part of the answer could be the inversion witnessed on Monday between the three-year Treasury yield and the five-year Treasury yield.
This falling could be a very big deal. One story I read said this could lead to China arresting some of our people.
News broke overnight that Wanzhou Meng, the Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of privately-owned Chinese tech giant Huawei, was arrested in Canada at the request of the US and now faces extradition.
According to reports, she was arrested on suspicion of violating the US's trade sanctions on Iran.
Huawei is one of China's most prominent technology companies — a huge telecommunications firm and the world's second-biggest smartphone manufacturer.
Its devices have come under scrutiny from US authorities over spying fears, and the arrest of its CFO has the potential to further inflame tensions between the two countries amid a mounting trade war.

Carlos Ponce

Dow only lost 79.40 points today. Year to date is +0.92%.
https://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/

Carlos Ponce

Gentlemen, may I suggest waiting for the CLOSING BELL before making assumptions?

Victor Krc

The market goes up, the market goes down. A stock market fluctuation or spasm has absolutely no predictive value as to where the economy is going. And you are ignorant (not stupid) of economic history and economics and finance in general. If you want to know what a real market crash is look at what happened just before the Great Depression in the 1920's until after WWII. The stock market went way up and it went way down. It means absolutely nothing at this time.

Gary Miller

Bailey! All those you listed were members of the DC swamp before Trump. None will ever return to swamp service. You failed to mention the 30 + Democrats he has eliminated from high level positions. All in all he seams to be getting the swamp drains open. He never said all DC swamp dwellers were Democrats. Draining the swamp included Republicans as well as Democrats.

Jim Forsythe

"several funding sources are in the works " Please give more information about these sources.
When a President says he is going to do something, does not mean he might. This is the reason most Presidents do not boast about what they are going to do because failure to do so is on them. Trump did say that Mexico will pay for the wall, not that they might. Until it is finished, he has not fulfilled his promise. A mans word is his bond.

Carlos Ponce

And Obama PROMISED he would shut down Gitmo....."A mans word is his bond."
The money will pour in from Mexico through the new trade agreement USMCA but it goes into the general fund. It's up to the House to include wall funding in the budget.
Trump included it in his budget proposal for 2019.
Now it's up to Nancy.

Jim Forsythe

This is about Trump and no one else. If you would like to discuss someone else , start your own thread.
If he can not deliver a promise , he should not promise. Passing it off as someone else as a reason he can not do it, does not deliver his promise. If you promise, deliver, if not you are a failure for this promise.
A President that is a A++ President, would not promise what he cannot deliver.

"Trump included it in his budget proposal for 2019" and it is up to him to work with the House and the Senate. If he does not , he will have not done his job. Leadership is more than winning the office and saying, this is what I will do.
Leadership is working with all, not just the one's in you orbit. If he does not work with the House and the Senate, he will have a long 2 years.

Carlos Ponce

"This is about Trump and no one else. If you would like to discuss someone else , start your own thread."
I will post in response to other posts.
Jim posted "When a President says he is going to do something, does not mean he might." at 7:44am
Is Trump the only President?
A PRESIDENT who comes to mind is Barack Obama who promised "to do something" but didn't. He did not say "might". TIME'S UP!
Trump still has 6 more years to fulfill. And yes, he will be re-elected.

Jim Forsythe

"Is Trump the only President?" Yes Trump is our only President, all the rest are past Presidents.
He is the only President, past or now that you rated as a A++ so he is held to I higher standard than one's that did not measure up . All President make mistakes, unless they are A++. Trump is proving that he can not live up to that standard.

"Trump still has 6 more years to fulfill." At this time he only has TWO years. He may not be reelected if he runs.

Emile Pope

"The money will pour in from Mexico through the new trade agreement USMCA but it goes into the general fund". What a bunch of hogwash. Businesses will get the money, but because of the tax cuts, they won't be giving any of it back to the government. And their tax cuts are PERMANENT!!!!!

Victor Krc

Also, as an addendum to my prior post, people who get jobs because companies are able to create them with the extra money they get from the tax cuts DO pay income taxes and sales taxes and property taxes, etc. You have to stop being an adherent of the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez school of economics. Supposedly she got an economics degree from Boston University, I think. But like so many current social science majors her head was so filled with gender studies and oppression narratives that she obviously did not learn what used to be covered in Economics 101. She would not recognize a supply-demand curve if she saw one.

Carlos Ponce

"Businesses will get the money, but because of the tax cuts, they won't be giving any of it back to the government."
Are you serious, Emile? There are still taxes businesses have to pay, not the outrageous taxes of the past. To post, "they won't be giving any of it back to the government" shows ignorance and a lack of economics understanding.

Emile Pope

But they haven't have they? They pocketed the cash or bought back stock to improve it's value. Nothing you said has happened. The tax cut was a con job for the rich who got most of the cuts and theirs were permanent.

Victor Krc

Sometimes I think that I am p-----g against the w--d. This takes up too much of my time trying to correct invincible and abysmal ignorance. Corporations engage in stock buybacks for many reasons. Corporations do not force stockholders to sell their stocks back to them when they tender an offer. Many stockholders are other large financial institutions, such as insurance companies and pension funds. Management of these institutions may decide to sell or not to sell depending on many factors, one of which is the long term prospects of the buy back company. Yes, the price of the stocks may go up but it may be only temporarily as the market is fairly efficient in evaluating stock prices. In any event, it is the only game in town as far as common stocks are concerned. Anyway, if the value of the stock goes up, so what? The pension funds and insurance companies that do not sell are happy, as are the pensioners and beneficiaries. The economic boom and the great improvement in the unemployment numbers over the past couple of years you do not want to see because of your politics of resentment. You also apparently do not know that the business tax cuts also help the local small businesses, the owners of which are not filthy rich. One of the immutable laws of economics is that if you want less of something then tax it. So, if you want less productive and job-creating economic activity then tax it to death. If all the rich did with their money was to pocket it then pretty soon they will not have anything to buy with their money. We will all go back to living in caves, rich and poor alike - the perfect leftist Utopia.

Carlos Ponce

"But they haven't have they?" Yes, Emile they have paid their taxes. If not they'd be in legal trouble.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos , the USMCA does not have support of all the Republican House members for reasons . One example, some Republicans conservative members (40) in the House pointed to language that would extend workplace protections to transgender workers, saying the USMCA is "no place for the adoption of social policy."
Again , for the USMCA to have a chance of passing the President must work with all
In the Senate it may require a vote of 60 to pass, which is very hard to achieve.

What could happen if the USMCA does not pass, since Trump has pulled us out of NAFTA?
The leader of any NAFTA nation can invoke Article 2205 of the deal, which would start a six-month clock before the US could formally pull out of the deal. In the event that the US did pull out of NAFTA, tariff rates between the US and the other two members would revert to pre-NAFTA levels. The move would also likely have major economic repercussions and rattle global markets.

Carlos Ponce

It'll pass Jim. As Spock put it, "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few."
"The leader of any NAFTA nation...." All agreed with USMCA. They'd look foolish to " invoke Article 2205". The New Mexican President is willing to work with Trump.

Jim Forsythe

The USMCA may never happen .
If it does not. we will have no agreement which may cause Article 2205 to be invoked.
Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell said that there’s no chance the logistics can be worked out to ensure that the U.S.-Mexico-Canada-Agreement — or USMCA — will make it to the floor of either the Senate or House of Representatives before the end of the year, so it can be ratified by lawmakers.

Gary Miller

Jim! Closing "Gitmo" was a campaign promises in both Obama campaigns. Gitmo is still open last I heard. Trump has kept many of his promises and still has several under way.

Jim Forsythe

Gary, this is about the President we have now. Nothing we do will change the past. To try and justify something Trump does, by saying they did it in the past, is not addressing the issues we have now.
If you asked Obama if he ever made a mistake , he would say of course. If you asked Trump he would say what?
He did not keep his promise, but he worked on it.Obama reduced the prison population from 242 detainees when he first took office in 2009, but the prison remains open. and on Dec. 12 2016, the population stood at 59
To honor Trumps request, he could not release the last few before he left office.
Trump tweeted in January that he wanted the White House to halt transfers. Part of Trump's campaign promise to keep Gitmo open.

Carlos Ponce

Jim Forsythe Dec 5, 2018 7:44am
"When a President says he is going to do something, does not mean he might. This is the reason most Presidents do not boast about what they are going to do because failure to do so is on them."
By posting "a President" you left it open to ANY president. Obama boasted about what he was going to do - and never did it! The shoe fits.

Jim Forsythe

"All President make mistakes, unless they are A++. Trump is proving that he can not live up to that standard. "

Carlos Ponce

Maybe not Jim Forsythe's standard but when he gets re-elected one an say he met the voter's standard.

Jim Forsythe

A++. for Trump, is your standard.

Casey Alan

You are very funny person. Even though your sarcasm is a little off. Of course Republicans wouldn’t want anyone receiving free gifts or being treated as equals. As for Trump, the only good thing that he’s done so far in my opinion is .... nope I got nothing.

Carlos Ponce

Casey Allen, you're not a glass half full or glass half empty person. You empty the glass then complain about "nothing".

Casey Alan

I am not the one complaining. The person who wrote the letter to the editor now complaining

Rusty Schroeder

Bailey, Jim, & Casey,, he's living in your heads on a daily basis and there is nothing you can do about it but complain. I am amazed this county is as deep red as it is with such strong democratic beliefs and organization.

Jarvis Buckley

I am a little concerned when I read no comments in this forum from George C. Anyone know is George ok. Miss his comments .

Keith Gray

No, but I bet he is hunting those delicious deer...

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