Thanks to Edward B. Williams for the history lesson (“Trump has degraded the office, imperiled the republic,” The Daily News, May 16-17), but it has little to do with degrading or imperiling now.

I don’t think that any of us could stand the bright lights of intense scrutiny and come out sterling. This includes most politicians and presidents. But comparison to two of our all-time favorites, George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, may be a bit unfair when there are others who have more in common with what’s being suggested of President Donald Trump.

When it comes to besmirching, I’d have to say that President Bill Clinton is the winner, introducing the youth of the world to oral sex, then comes President John F. Kennedy for his sexual activities, President Richard Nixon has to join us for his Watergate misadventures, President Thomas Jefferson was mentioned in the positive group even though he liked his slaves more than he should have.

President Barack Obama is on the short list for putting all the ducks in a row for the socialist future our children and grandchildren are going to inherit and now here comes Obama-gate.

Now for the presidential want-to-be list, Hillary Clinton, who has more near-miss criminal activities than almost anyone, and Vice President Joe Biden who may have “unknowingly” become the politician whose family made more money from access than any other family in the world.

To not mention Presidents Ronald Reagan, H. W. Bush, or George W. Bush in the positive group demonstrates a political bias. Mentioning the impeachment trial was surprising when anyone who could count votes knew that it would never be successful except from the standpoint of attacking the president and giving the Democratic leaders the ability to over and over again say things as fact that were not.

The behavior of Sen. Adam Schiff and Rep. Jerrold Nadler was nothing short of deplorable. If any damage was done to the Constitution or anything else, it’s thanks to the Democrats on their fool’s mission.

I do believe that the republic may have been imperiled. Trump has been pretty ruthless in his efforts to get what’s best for America. It’s possible that he pushed China too far trying to balance the trade situation and China might have said, “If that’s the way you feel, have a Corona on us and we don’t mean a Mexican beer.”

As to strategy, it makes no sense to tell the press that you hate other world leaders when you’re looking forward to improving our position with those same leaders in the future. As to why he doesn’t want to share his tax information, who knows, maybe he’s like me and doesn’t think it’s anybody else’s business.

Maybe he wishes he had been a better citizen and paid more in taxes, but his CPAs took advantage of the tax laws. Who knows? Some besmirching and imperiling, OK, but the comparisons are just too one-sided. I don’t wish we could all agree, but I do wish we could look at things more objectively.

Ken Davis lives in Bayou Vista.

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David Hardee

Entertaining well-written article and points out that overhyping has gone wild so let's tone it down.

Craig Mason

Thanks for your perspective.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Davis, I appreciate your article. It least you came across as bipartisan, unlike Edward B. Williams who excoriated and criticized Trump in his recent Op-ed, but praised another President who owned, bought, and sold slaves! So thanks for having the appearance of being fair minded! You just can't be a Democrat! Oh, and Adam Schiff is not a Senator. He is trying to be a member of the House Of Representatives, but not having any success at it. Hey, but thanks again for being a fair man, I will bet you are not afraid of China or XI JINPING... like so many others in this country are. In fact you appear to be a man who is genuinely concerned about this country and not in a hurry to hand it over to the world because we project ourselves in the light of being exceptional as a country! Fact is we had A LEFTIST President a few years back who went on a tour to apologize to the world for our exceptionalism! Bowed to Saudi Princes and kissed the hand of Egyptian Kings too! "YEAH ..and HE SMILED WHEN HE DID IT!!!"

Bailey Jones

Free Americans should assess Trump by whatever criteria they choose. Apparently "objective" means worrying about the lessons children learned from Bill Clinton while ignoring the lesson taught by the Grabber in Chief in the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and the further lesson taught by conservative America - that it was fine.

My assessment is that neither Clinton nor Trump are suitable moral examples for our children. But I guess that's not "objective" enough.

Carlos Ponce

"Free Americans should assess Trump by whatever criteria they choose." Unfortunately Liberals choose to believe a false meme promoted by partisan Leftist politicos and media.

Did Trump ever recommend drinking Lysol? That lie was perpetuated by Nancy Pelosi. Bailey refers to "Grabber in Chief" - that was just talk. When Obama said "we bring a gun" did Bailey actually think he would actually bring a firearm? Now where would that type of talk come from? HOLLYWOOD! In terms of "grab" we see that in "The last Picture Show" and "Crocodile Dundee" in addition to other movies. The gun comment is a paraphrase of Sean Connery's scripted statement in 1987's "The Untouchables" - "He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way!" Obama's from Chicago.

Difference, Trump's statement was meant for Billy Bush only - locker room type talk. Obama's was said in public.

Bailey Jones

Is that what you taught in your classroom - that's it's OK to debase women if it's "just talk"? Because I'm not OK with that.

Or are you saying that what generally falls out of Trump's mouth is nothing more substantial than self serving BS? If that's the case, I'm with you 100%.

Carlos Ponce

I taught math. Looks like Bailey isn't familiar with "locker room talk" whether it is said in an actual locker room or elsewhere. Not said in front of women, mind you, but I've heard it said by young boys, young men, old-timers all my life. But there was always one guy in the group that you would hush up and not speak such in front of him. Bailey, have you ever walked into a group of males and everyone got quiet?

Now women talk the same way about men. It's human nature. There were times I overheard them and they would be embarrassed if they knew I heard.

Bailey Jones

Sounds like you're going with option 2 - that what generally falls out of Trump's mouth is nothing more substantial than self serving BS.

YAY - we agree for once!

Carlos Ponce

Sounds like you were that geeky guy that the group got very quiet when he was around.

Maris Helfrich

This "opinion" is only that and far from "objective"! Besmirching the reputations of the Democrats in such a partisan way is so destructive to our country. You are just adding "fuel to the fire" of this partisan, divisive atmosphere were live in. The fact that you are not able to see the glaring, destructive incompetency or the words & actions of this President, is proof that your objectivity is wrought with holes!

Carlos Ponce

Besmirching the reputations of the REpublicans in such a partisan way is so destructive to our country., Maris. "glaring, destructive incompetency or the words & actions" - looks like you've had a gallon of Liberal Kool-aid this morning. Maris clearly not objective.

Emile Pope

From the party that spent the last 11 years insulting and ridiculing the Democrats?

Carlos Ponce

Emile, Democrats give us plenty to ridicule! So Emile belongs to the party of slavery, the KKK, the Black-excluded primaries, etc. [whistling]

Casey Alan

Yes you should look at things more objectively. If you would you might see the full picture. The real picture.

Charles Douglas

I have not heard anyone exclaim how Loving Trump was before he took Office, just as I do not recognize as truth all the lies the LEFT and the DEEP STATE headed by Obama, has perpetuated against him since he has been in Office! O'Biden, is so rehearsed it is not funny! It is just so amazing how THE LEFT keeps stirring the pot and making noise about Trump in an all out effort to deceive & distract the pubic from focusing in on an Ole man so forgetful he cannot remember who his own wife is at times! He forgets Barack America's real name, as well as his own at times. This is the man the LEFT has put lipstick on, dressed up, and hid in a basement.....where he peeps out every once in a while, taking drummed up, and rehearsed pot-shots at Trump! No wonder the LEFT is trying to keep the country shut in place, because if everything goes back to normal, Mr. O'Biden will have to come out from underground, and campaign, and answer real questions from the public! That will be deviatating! China hates Trump, and therefore China's supporters hate Trump! There is no doubt about that! What China cannot beg, steal, or scare others into giving them, they use vast amount of MONEY to corrupt others into providing to them! This is why Obama defends them, it is why Shumer, Pelosi, and others pack their water too.

Emile Pope

Another false equivalency. Nothing that the previous presidents nor the presidential contenders compare to the president criminal in chief. And mentioning allegations and conspiracy theories about others doesn't change anything. The current president is a disgrace to his office regardless of what his apologists try to say.

Carlos Ponce

"And mentioning allegations and conspiracy theories about others doesn't change anything." Isn't that what Emile just did?

Maris Helfrich

Trump is very divisive and your labeling of people like me only makes matters worse. He is NOT the President of all the people. What a shame ! Now he is dividing the states in to Red and Blue even threatening federal funding to be denied to tax-paying citizens in states that don't cater to him. Too bad his cult/followers can't really be "objective" to what he is doing. One needs to look no further than the tone of partisanship seen in these " comments"....neighbor against neighbor! "A nation divided.....cannot stand." And we have a President who gives the bad example of this daily! (This is a FACT....not a conjecture.) Human compassion nor Christian inspiration are forth coming from him.....only the creation of more hate and division, and the promotion of HIS political agenda. His reelection is all that matters to him. So sad! Who wants to live in a country like this....no leadership to inspire us and bind us together.?? Makes you wonder about the future of the Democracy that we love.

Carlos Ponce

Apparently the lock down did not stop Maris' access to Liberal Kool-aid.

Gary Miller

Maris> Are we really divided? Every state in the union, except one, has more Red counties than blue. Voter fraud, carefully crafted, is all that keeps Democrats in limited power. Non citizen voters is all that keeps liberals in control of California. Citizen Republicans outnumber Citizen Democrats

in many blue states. Another awakining like 2010 is all we need to eliminate Democrats forever. Having Democrats and non citizens on one side is divided but is not a divided citizenry.

Bailey Jones

... if only counties could vote. But they can't. And most Americans who did vote voted against Trump. It's a simple fact that most Americans just don't like Trump. His approval rating has never gotten above 49%. Compare that "high" to the highs for every other president in modern times:

Bush 43 - 90%

Bush 41 - 89%

Truman - 87%

Kennedy - 83%

FDR - 83%

LBJ - 79%

Ike - 77%

Carter - 74%

Clinton - 73%

Reagan - 71%

Ford - 70%

Obama - 67%

Nixon - 66%

Now, Gary - what has changed? Did the American public suddenly decide to hate on Republicans? No - the change is we elected a president that most Americans simply do not like. That's the objective truth.

Carlos Ponce

Does Bailey REALLY believe "approval ratings" or presidential preferential polls? So sad.[sad]

Charles Douglas

Depends on who you are calling an American! I never saw a real American who would sell out America for 30 pieces of silver to support a Communist, savage regime like CHINA who suppresses, oppresses, imprison, and routinely murder, Christians, Muslims, and activists seeking to be left alone with decent levels of freedom! I won't even mention the thousands and thousands, of illegals abiding in Sanctuary Cities like New York, Houston, Los Angeles, and Seattle who pass themselves off as citizens, voters, and Americans! So be careful Mr. Jones when you use that term American! Lastly, we know when the founding fathers set our elections up using the Electoral College instead of the majority vote, ....it made using the "phrase the majority of the American wanted this or that in an election" a moot point, am I right? [wink]

Bailey Jones

I know, Carlos. If it doesn't show Trump as the GREATEST PRESIDENT SINCE LINCOLN AND MAYBE EVEN LINCOLN, then it must be fake. I learnt that by watching Hannity,

Carlos Ponce

I still have Calvin Coolidge as the best. Wait until Trump's second term is in full swing. Then we'll see.

Diane Turski

I have objectively assessed Trump's record as a total failure!! Vote him and his corrupt cronies OUT in November!!!!

Carlos Ponce

Diane, you are not objective. But thanks for the laugh![beam]

Don't worry, when Trump is re-elected in November you will have four more years to express your delusions.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, just curious, do you consider yourself objective?

Carlos Ponce

I consider myself a Christian Conservative.

Charles Douglas

Ponce> Christian Conservative? Nope! I think you are a great Christian Conservative, ...astute on the issues, as you have demonstrated time and again! [wink]

Emile Pope

Christian conservative? Oxymoron...

Carlos Ponce

Apparently the term is above your pay grade to understand, Emile.

james cussen

Well said Ken.

Ted Gillis

We used to play a game on long trips with the kids to see how many fish eater symbols we could count on the back of cars.

Thanks Carlos. You and your bunch gave us endless hours of entertainment.

Jim Forsythe

Today

"And I'm still here, I'm still here," Trump said. "I tested very positively in another sense so— this morning. Yeah. I tested positively toward negative, right. So. I tested perfectly this morning."

A smile came over Trump's face as the reporters kept asking what he meant.

"But that's a way of saying it — positively toward the negative."

Carlos Ponce

Just picture Foghorn Leghorn slapping Jim on the back saying, "It's a joke son! A JOKE!"

Jim Forsythe

What is great is we have a president that has to have interpreters for what he says.

When a president speaks, they say what they mean, unless they are not telling the truth.

It's hard to believe that he made a statement like this today.

All that was lacking today was Trump saying, covfefe out.

I was talking about Trump and not Mr.Leghorn physically assaulting me. It's sad when you think the president is a joke.

Trump also said he would punish Michigan and Nevada if they dared use mail-in-voting. Ignoring that Florida, where Trump voted earlier this year, is a no-excuse absentee vote state -- meaning that a voter can request an absentee ballot without offering any excuse for why they want to do so.

Carlos Ponce

We are happy to translate for the mentally challenged.[beam]

Jim Forsythe

Nice touch, using an insult just as Trump does.

Charles Douglas

You can't blame them for trying Mr. PONCE! See, they are on an all out mission to come up with something, "ANYTHING" to offset, or cancel out the zero chances to win for that individual hidden in a basement over in Delaware somewhere! They are trying everything, from impeachment again to character assassination... in order to win the election before November! WHY? Well, there is not a snowball chance in the "LAKE OF FIRE" Mr. O'Biden will win this election heads up against Trump! All this simply means is .... they have already lost and they know IT! Pay no attention to the manufactured and fake polls tacted up,..they did that in 2016 and how did that turn out? They have women running around "Cut - Throating" to see who Joe's running mate will be. Pencil in Kamala Harris and nobody else has a chance. Two reasons, 1) Obama is close to Harris, and 2) Mr. O'Biden let it slip not long ago saying, "I'm coming for you kid, so get ready!" ( He and Obama probably have already worked this out ). He was speaking to Kamala Harris when he said that! Put (1) with (2) and you will have the answer to what these women are after. Oh they will make it look good, but count Kamala in, not that it matters!

Carlos Ponce

If you have trouble understanding, we're here to assist.[beam]

Stuart Crouch

Sweet Jeezus, they've stolen a bus and left the asylum! The State Hospital in Rusk called. They said if you cooks get back in your rooms before dinner, there won't be any extra voltage added to your treatments. [batman]

David Hardee

Carlos, you are phenomenal. Staying strong and fending off all the adverse punches while counter punching effectively. I declare you the Champion of comments. You have built a adversarial following of Lemming. Keep on leading them to the precipice of the gorge where Lemmings blindly plunge into the abyss.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Hardee, Mr. PONCE is OG Carlos PONCE, He and OG GARY Scoggin goes back a long ways! I've witnessed brilliant, smart posters come and go on this forum from years back, and none of them had the determination, nor the wherewithal to effectively deal with OG Carlos PONCE! He is good! Scoggin is good too, he is upper echelon, an able poster, who is confident and respectable, and a good debater. I have watched them both for years! There is another one out there, Mr. GRAY from Santa Fe. You might not believe it but years ago, the Mayor of LM used to throw us a post now and again! Lolo. That was back in the days where TC & LM Football was tops in Texas! Guys like these, Mr. Jones, and like yourself ...makes it fun, and worthwhile because it never gets personal.

Gary Scoggin

Thank you Charles. I’m glad somebody noticed! Have a good day.

David Hardee

will repeat itself. Horrific results of the progressive liberals have destroyed much of the sinew and muscles that Made America Great. Cougars gone and Buccaneers are just 2 of the casualties wipe out from the progressive liberal ascent to power in government. Social engineering with gerrymandering created polarization of unity that put self serving above the common good. Mores became whatever an individual imagined they were. Institution of marriage, identity of gender and value of the human embryo are just a few of the corruptions from progressive liberals. History is being re-written to fit the perceptions of anti-traditional activist. Counter punching with reason, logic and facts has been ineffective. The intended benevolent Great Society reaped unforeseen circumstances that corrupted our society. Toppling its regime and MAGA is a herculean task. Recalling those words spoken in spirit of no revenge "Forgive them for they know what they do" it is obvious these culprit are knowingly intent to crucify and destroy.

Ted Gillis

Huh?

Charles Douglas

"You are not "BLACK"..unless you vote for me!".....Joe O'Biden.

Exactly what I have been saying about the arrogance and self-serving attitudes coming from the LEFT toward "Black" voters as well as minority voters as a whole! Joe Biden did not help Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina to set up Opportunity Zones for those left out ..so they could be included in better, and in a more prosperous life here in America,.. Trump Diesel did that! Joe Biden did not help get Black and Hispanic unemployment to the lowest levels in history, Trump Diesel did that! Joe Biden DID help pass legislation which sent minorities to prison in disproportionate numbers, he did opposed bussing back during segregation. Yet this man is quick to say ..."Look at my record!" I have, and Joe, it is NOT all that!

Emile Pope

Biden 2020.

Carlos Ponce

That's nice, Emile. Vote for whomever you want. Just don't get upset when your candidates don't win. Your slate of candidates in 2016 and 2018 didn't win either.

Emile Pope

Apparently you missed the 2018 election. Or the blue wave...

Carlos Ponce

"Your slate of candidates in 2016 and 2018 didn't win either."

Does Emile live in Galveston County?

In 2018 Galveston County, ZERO Democrats won. That includes County and Statewide offices.

So unless Emile voted for a Republican, none of his votes in 2018 won.

Carlos Ponce

Or did Emile vote in more than one county in 2018?[scared]

Emile Pope

Highest unemployment since the Great Depression? Tired of winning?

Carlos Ponce

Just wait Emile. It will bounce back. Then you'll have to eat your words - AGAIN!

Charles Douglas

I have made up my mind, about what I want to be when I grow up. Forget about all the careers I've been blessed to retire from! When I grow up I want to be an "OG" like 2-3 individuals I know on this forum! [wink]

Carlos Ponce

Note of interest: Quinnipiac just put out a poll showing Biden with a double digit (11%) lead over Trump.[scared]

What you have to look at is the Demographics of those polled:

26% Republican

36% Democrat

31% Independent

7% other or don't know

https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/us/us05202020_demos_ugjm33.pdf

If you were to poll who has a better high school, Galveston or Texas City and you polled more Galvestonians than Texas Citians it would not take a genius to figure out who the poll would favor.

Their polling demographics do not reflect real America.

According to Gallup:

30% Republican

31% Democrat

36% Independent

https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

Which is accurate? NEITHER. With any National poll you have to add a few points to the Republicans since many are reluctant to reveal party affiliation.

Emile Pope

Nearly 100,000 deaths and trump goes golfing? Despicable. Nero would be ashamed...

Carlos Ponce

Doctor's orders - get some sun and exercise.

Emile Pope

trump ridiculed President Obama for playing golf when two people died from Ebola. What’s donald doing this weekend?

Carlos Ponce

Doctor's orders - get some sun and exercise.

Emile Pope

100,000 Americans won’t be given that option...

Carlos Ponce

Marvin Zindler used to say "Good golf, good tennis or whatever makes you happy." Emile just likes to grouse. That's not happiness. There could be golf courses in Heaven for those who wish. But if Emile keeps his hatred up he will never know.

Emile Pope

If donald took the job to make himself happy then he never should have taken it. The Constitution says “serves” not “to be served”...

Carlos Ponce

Emile, give up the hate.

Emile Pope

40 million unemployed. Nearly 100,000 perished. Typical donald. Took a thriving economy and drove it into tatters. While accepting responsibility for nothing and blaming others for everything...

Carlos Ponce

Trump was responsible for the thriving economy. He'll bring it back. Wait and see![beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

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