We’re in the third year of being bombarded by various Democrat schemes. As one scheme dies, due to false accusations and innuendoes, they desperately grasp at another.

The Mueller investigation was supposed to do in the president, but after two years, $40 million wasted, it produced a big nothing. Now, Democrats accuse President Donald Trump of enlisting the newly elected Ukraine president to help him in his 2020 reelection during a congratulatory phone call.

This was based on a whistleblower’s secondhand opinion of what the president said. Democrats jumped on this as a quid pro quo. But when the president immediately released the entire transcript of the call, everyone could read it and make up their own minds as to a quid pro quo, thus reducing what the whistleblower said to a secondhand opinion.

Democrats then turned to Chairman Jerry Nadler and the judiciary committee whose hearing was a dud. Still searching for a crime, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi put the inquiry into the hands of Adam Schiff and the intelligence committee. Two weeks of secret hearings behind closed doors then a week of public hearings, still no impeachable crime.

Democrats then dropped the quid pro quo and switched to bribery, accusing the president of violation of the Constitution by soliciting an emolument from the Ukrainian president. However, the Emoluments Clause was added to the constitution in the 1700s to prevent American ambassadors living abroad from being influenced or corrupted by gifts from wealthy European powers. The Constitution doesn’t state this is a “High Crime or Misdemeanor.” Article I, Section 9, Clause 8.

Democrats know going forward with impeachment will result in the Senate acquitting the president of any of the charges they can dream up, so why put the nation through all this?

Polls are showing that Democrats are paying a price for ignoring the needs of the country and focusing full time on impeachment.

Democrat voters must be wondering if their party has anything more in their playbook than resist, non-stop claims of Trump colluding with Russia and endless investigations.

Even with all this orchestrated opposition, voters see an outsider like Trump is presiding over a strong economy, employment high and unemployment at an all-time low.

Democrats fear they can’t beat Trump in 2020, so removing him for office is at least a reason even though it exposes their disregard for the Constitution.

The Founders never intended for impeachment to be a one-sided partisan action. If that becomes the norm then every time a political party loses an election, the losing party can tie up governing with never-ending impeachment procedures.

Since Democrats seem to be having a hard time figuring out what charge to hang their hat on, let me suggest the Democrats may not want to go down the emoluments street in that it may expose the millions of dollars donated by foreign powers to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary was secretary of state.

Benjamin Franklin warned: “Clean your finger before you point at my spots.”

Jack Cross lives in Texas City.

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Mike Zeller

Mr Cross, I hope you didn't write this opinion believing the Senate can acquit the President from Impeachment, they can't OOPS! They can only decide to remove him from office. Here is a small sample of conspiracy theories your President believes: 1. The Clintons might be involved in Epstein’s death 2. The Clintons might be involved in Vince Foster’s death 3. Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States 4. The father of U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, may have been involved in the Kennedy assassination 5. Joe Scarborough involved in his intern’s death 6. The late Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia may have been murdered 7. The “Deep State” is trying to undermine or oust him 8. Vaccines can cause autism 9. The death toll from Hurricane Maria was inflated 10. Muslims are attempting to install sharia law in the United States 11. Thousands of Muslims celebrated in the streets in 9/11 12. Cruz wasn’t eligible to be president because he was born in Canada 13. Marco Rubio wasn’t eligible, either 14. There were 3 to 5 million illegal votes in the 2016 election — but none for Trump 15. Obama wiretapped Trump Tower 16. Global warming is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese 17. A man who charged the stage at his rally had Islamic State ties 18. The “white genocide” of South African farmers 19. It might not be his voice on the Access Hollywood tape 20. Gen. John Pershing executed Muslim terrorists with blood-tipped bullets 21. Wind farms cause cancer 22. The danger of asbestos is a “con” pushed by the mafia 23. A Saudi prince co-owns Fox News

Mike Zeller

My bad, if convicted the President shall be removed from office.

Carlos Ponce

"3. Barack Obama wasn’t born in the United States" That's true. He was born in June 18, 1936 in Rachuonyo District, Nyang'oma Kogelo, Kenya and died November 24, 1982 in Nairobi, Kenya. His son, Barack Obama II was born in Hawaii."

"5. Obama wiretapped Trump Tower " He used the term "wiretapped" in quotes for a reason. Trump said that because it was reported in the New York Times Print edition Page One Friday January 20, 2017. The on-line edition was changed.

https://www.wnd.com/2017/03/new-york-times-fixes-headline/

"Wiretapped Data Used in Inquiry of Trump Aides" became "Intercepted Russian communications part of inquiry into Trump associates" online. The Horowitz report released yesterday confirms four of Trump's aides were surveilled electronically.

"We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just by those who prepared [applications for wiretap warrants] but also by the managers and supervisors in the .. chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed," the report said on page 414 (454 of PDF). (Note: see previous page for context).

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6571579-FISA-120919-Examination.html

Many other errors in your diatribe but considering the source......[rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

Trump used the term wiretapped and the trump was never campaigning about President Obamas father. The source is Trump. Once President Obamas father passed away, it was OK for Obama to drop the II , Jr or what ever.

Carlos Ponce

Trump REPEATED the term used by the print edition of the New York Times, a term while not technically correct but understood by most to mean electronic surveillance. And the Horowitz report confirms it. You will find the Horowitz report uses the term "Wiretap" SEVEN times on p3, p50, p65, p66, p86, p390 and p 452. (PDF page numbers used).

"Once President Obamas father passed away, it was OK for Obama to drop the II , Jr or what ever." Many keep their "II, Jr or whatever", Jim to clarify and avoid confusion. I had a student who used IV at the end of his name on documents. Bottom line, saying Barack Hussein Obama was not born in this country is correct.

Bailey Jones

"Bottom line, saying Barack Hussein Obama was not born in this country is correct."

That statement - when used to defend Trump's birther lies - betrays an astounding lack of intellectual honesty. I'm actually ashamed for you.

Carlos Ponce

How, Bailey? It's true is it not?

Bailey Jones

"It's true is it not?" Lots of things are true, Carlos. The statement, "Carlos Ponce raped a 13 year old on Christmas Day" is absolutely true. (It happened in another state and has nothing to do with the Carlos Ponce we all know and love, but it's 100% true.) Shall I repeat this true statement whenever your name comes up? Or would that be dishonest of me?

Words matter. Context matters. Because Carlos Ponce raped a 13 year old on Christmas Day.

Carlos Ponce

Shame on him! I hope he fries! By the way, Carlos Ponce was a pop teen idol in the 1980s. I bought the album!

Carlos Ponce

By the way I taught Elizabeth Taylor and Tony Randle. And I have a niece named Jennifer Lopez. My Dad called her J-Lo.

Jack Cross

Mike you are wrong, The Senate can in-fact acquit the president, in fact they can even dismiss the charge and like I said one of these two things are going to happen.

When someone writes a guest column, I which those who write on the forum would stick to making comments about the article. Regardless if you agree with me, I try to get my facts correct and people are free to challenge the accuracy. Adding all that other stuff has nothing to do with what I wrote. My concern is not really republican or democrat, I want good governance and honest ethical legislators. I see both political parties having failed us.

Bailey Jones

As I understand it, impeachment is the indictment, the senate has the trial. So the Senate can't undo the impeachment, but they can (and will) acquit the president of the articles of impeachment.

Carlos Ponce

The list of witnesses the Senate will call will prove damning to to the Democrat Party.

Bailey Jones

Bring 'em on - I'm curious to hear what they say under oath. But I expect the list of witnesses will include only his accusers, none of the state department witnesses, and not a peep from Bolton, Pompeo, Mulvaney, or the Big Cheeto himself.

Carlos Ponce

The list includes Allie Chalupa, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, Eric Ciaramella, Adam Schiff.

Bailey Jones

That sounds about right. There's no need to mount a defense when you own the jury. I guess Trump doesn't believe the American people deserve to hear his side of the story - under oath - just tweets and rally rambling.

Carlos Ponce

Do you believe in polls? I don't since they always over poll Democrats and Liberals. But the Quinnipiac Poll released today December 10, 2019 shows more than half of those polled DON'T WANT IMPEACHMENT. "More Than Half Of Voters Say Don't Impeach Trump." But remember, they OVER POLL Democrats and Liberals. So the numbers are tilted to the LEFT. So in reality......[beam]

And in Battleground states......[beam]

"Poll: Trump Leads Dems in Battleground States" USA Today, Market Watch, Newsweek, etc.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, do not say, I do not believe in polls and try and use a poll to prove a point. It they have no place in your world, do not use them.

By your own words, all that you post about the polls in the above post, must be false.

You can believe in polls or you do not believe in polls, but you can not believe in both points.

If you are going to use the Quinnipiac Poll, tell the whole story. Removal was at less then 50%. 51% saying no, is something to be proud of?

Dec 10, 2019 --

Opposition to impeachment increased in a Quinnipiac University Poll released Tuesday, with more than half of voters (51%) saying President Donald Trump should not be removed from office.

Last thing,this poll was about impeach and remove, not just being impeached.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, I don't believe in polls. They're sampling methods lack credibility. I use them to in posts to demonstrate the problems they have with credulity. But if you add several percentage points to the Conservative view......[beam]

Mike Zeller

Jack, only two U.S. presidents have been formally impeached by Congress—Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton—and no U.S. president has ever been removed from office through impeachment. They were both acquitted by the Senate. Why are they considered Impeached? What am I missing?

Emile Pope

What isn’t false is misleading. What isn’t misleading is made up...

Carlos Ponce

"What isn’t false is misleading. What isn’t misleading is made up..." That sounds like Emile's posts.

Carol Dean

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Gary Miller

Emile> Have you made a list yet of the Democrats who will turn "states evidence" to get less time? Which will blow the whistle on Obama or HRC? My list of Obama henchmen with two or more known felonies stands at 32.

Bailey Jones

Personally I think impeachment is a big win for Trump. He'll be acquitted in the Senate, and just like with the Mueller Report, which detailed numerous sins but stopped short of indictment, Trump will claim "absolute vindication". The great irony is that, had the whistle blower not come forward, Zelensky would have gone ahead with the quid - the CNN interview to announce the investigation into the Bidens and the fake Ukrainian conspiracy - and no one would have noticed or cared. Now, Hunter Biden is on every news channel, not just Trump News, and Biden is handling it poorly. And if Biden is nominated, Trump will use it to bludgeon his way to another term. And I honestly don't know how I feel about that. It would be great to be able to look up at a president with something that approaches admiration again, but on the other hand, I do enjoy seeing the party of Reagan being rent asunder by this train wreck of a man.

Jack Reeves

To enjoy seeing either party in this great Republic ,"rent asunder" is a sad commentary.

I and the other 1%'s spent part of our youth and the better part of our lives wearing a uniform that would guarantee the continued existence of both parties. How sad.

Bailey Jones

Really? I thought your allegiance was to the constitution.

Jack Reeves

Noted. But, I guess every Soldier, Sailor, Marine, Airman and Coast Guardsman has their own personal reasons for serving. Thank you for correcting me and for allowing me to serve.

Bailey Jones

Thank you for your service, Jack. I wish we had a government that was worthy of it.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey posts, "The great irony is that, had the whistle blower not come forward, Zelensky would have gone ahead with the quid....." The so called "whistleblower" had nothing to do with the release of funds to the Ukraine. It was assurances from Congressional leaders and pressure from them to release the funds in a letter to (OMB) Director Mick Mulvaney. The list includes U.S. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), co-chair of the Senate Ukraine Caucus, Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Rob Portman (R-OH), Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), and Ron Johnson (D-WI).

https://www.durbin.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/durbin-shaheen-portman-lead-bipartisan-ukraine-caucus-leadership-letter-urging-trump-administration-to-release-obligated-military-security-assistance-for-ukraine

Emile Pope

The money wasn't released until the whistleblower filed a complaint. Not before.

Carlos Ponce

"The money wasn't released until the whistleblower filed a complaint." Just a coincidence as to the timing. It was Dick Durbin, Portman and crew that got the ball rolling

Mike Zeller

For some on this forum it's a pepto bismol day. Nobody going to jail from IG Report, and articles of impeachment. [crying]

Carlos Ponce

Mike, that's not within the IG's job description. He cannot indict, issue warrants, nor subpoena. HOWEVER, it is within John Durham's job description. Be patient.

Mike Zeller

There were others on this forum thinking Brennen, Clapper and others WERE going to jail, it's not always about you.(But if the shoe fits)

Carlos Ponce

Be patient, Mike.

Charles Douglas

If you are referring to me Mike, you might want to go back and reread what I posted. I posted: " WHEN THE IG REPORT comes in Monday and Our Attorney General's Criminal report gets released in a couple of weeks!" Let's keep it straight, and let it be known, like Tammy stood by her man, ...I STAND-BY my statement! If they some how beat the rap it will just go to show HOW far this nation has fallen! I gotta tell you it won't surprise me if they go Free, ....but like the man said, be patient.

Ray Taft

Democrats impeaching President Trump because he has Made America Great Again through proven results that Democrats said could never happen, including producing perhaps the strongest economy in our country’s history, and has one of the most successful presidencies ever that puts Americans first, and most importantly, who has done NOTHING wrong, is sheer madness by people who have clearly lost their way.

Paula Flinn

The economy is not so great for people who need to work more than one job to make ends meet. There are still many people who cannot afford medical insurance and cannot afford to take their children to the doctor. Now the Republicans and Trump want to cut the number of poor and disabled people getting food stamps.

Our Allies abroad dismiss the US and make fun of President Trump. The farmers are still hurting, particularly the small ones. Denying progress, Trump has put a tax on solar panels. Industries are allowed to pour their slag into our waterways again. We are eating more chemicals, including dangerous ones like glyphosate, which are being sprayed on our grain fields. The middle class are paying more in taxes, while the rich are paying a much less amount.

If you don’t think Trump has done anything wrong, you aren’t listening. Trump has unlawfully used his office to get an advantage in the next election. Trump puts himself first, not Americans first. Inviting a foreign power to influence or meddle in our 2020 election is not putting Americans first.

Carlos Ponce

"Trump has unlawfully used his office to get an advantage in the next election."

The ACT OF IMPEACHMENT will guarantee his re-election. Thank you Nancy Pelosi. [beam] Thank you Adam Schiff![beam] Thank you anti-Trumps![beam] YOU are the ones who gave him "an advantage in the next election".[beam][beam][beam]

Charles Douglas

Wow, some of these DEMS, are deep into these Democratic talking points aren't they? I always wondered how they get them out so quickly! Man ... they can have the average Democrat on the West coast saying the exact same talking point verbatim to a Democrat on the East coast in seconds!!!! Ms Flinn, if I was a DEADBEAT, like most of the American Allies are, and Trump shamed me into paying my obligations, and chastised me for being a #$& FREELOADER, ...I'd probably talk about him and laugh at him too! So what? They are leeching off us! The DEMS wants this country to take care of all illegals in this country, those crossing the border, and take care of the countries they left from!!! When you vote, be careful who you vote for! Don't kill the golden goose! Can you say Venezuela?

Carlos Ponce

"people who need to work more than one job to make ends meet" Yes, there are some like that but with the decrease in unemployed to fill those jobs many see an opportunity (to pay off the mortgage, secure college funds for their kids, buy that boat, get vacation money, etc) you find many who do two jobs not out of necessity but a way to lead the good life.

Dan Freeman

The Mueller report led to 26 Russians or Russian entities indicted, no Ukrainians. It led to the felony conviction of 10 Trump appointees or associates. Not a bad haul.

To date AG Barr has returned zero indictments of the Obama administration or the Hillary campaign. The FBI IG said the work was sloppy, but not illegal or biased.

I guess it will take a Trump appointed attorney to find something, maybe a dust bunny.

Carlos Ponce

"The Mueller report led to 26 Russians or Russian entities indicted" And how many have been brought to trial? ZERO. And one of the companies named dod not exist in this country at the time of the alleged infraction.[rolleyes]

Dan, wait until the Durham report for the indictments. It was not IG Horowitz job description to indict, issue warrants or subpoena. They'd rather do it RIGHT, than Fast.

Jim Forsythe

Looking for Russian and Ukrainian connections, most all courtesy of Mueller.

Sam Patten: A GOP lobbyist who had worked in some of the same Ukrainian circles as Manafort and alongside Konstantin Kilimnik,

According to a criminal information document filed by the DC US attorney’s office, Patten and Kilimnik (who is not named but referred to as “Foreigner A”) founded a lobbying and consulting company together. They did campaign work in Ukraine and lobbying work in the US, and were paid over $1 million between 2015 and 2017.

Patten also admits to helping his Ukrainian oligarch client get around the prohibition on foreign donations to Donald Trump’s inauguration committee. The oligarch sent $50,000 to Patten’s company, and then he gave that money to a US citizen, who bought the four tickets.

Specifically, the document claims that Patten contacted members of Congress and their staffers, State Department officials, and members of the press on behalf of his Ukrainian clients — all without registering under the Foreign Agents Registration Act, as required by law

Manafort and Gates: This pair worked for Ukrainian politicians (and, eventually, the Ukrainian government) for several years prior to the Trump campaign, and made an enormous amount of money for it.

Gates was the first to strike a plea deal. In February, Mueller dropped most of the charges he had brought against him. In exchange, Gates pleaded guilty to two counts — one conspiracy to defraud the United States charge encompassing the overall Ukrainian lobbying and money allegations, and a false statements charge. (With the latter, Gates admitted lying to Mueller’s team during a meeting this February. A Dutch lawyer, Alex van der Zwaan, also pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI related to his Ukrainian work with Gates.)

Mueller’s team struck a plea deal requiring his cooperation. Manafort pleaded guilty to just two more counts — conspiracy to defraud the United States, and an attempted obstruction of justice charge. But he admitted that the other allegations Mueller previously made against him were true as well

Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.

Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.

Papadopoulos: Back in April 2016, Papadopoulos got a tip from a foreign professor he understood to have Russian government connections that the Russians had “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails.” He then proceeded to have extensive contacts with the professor and two Russian nationals, during which he tried to plan a Trump campaign trip to Russia. But when the FBI interviewed Papadopoulos about all this in January 2017, he repeatedly lied about what happened, he now admits. So he was arrested in July 2017, and later agreed to plead guilty to a false statements charge.

Flynn: In December 2016, during the transition, Flynn spoke to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak about sanctions that President Barack Obama had just placed .n Russia, and about a planned United Nations Security Council vote condemning Israeli settlements.

But when FBI agents interviewed him about all this in January 2017, Flynn lied to them about what his talks with Kislyak entailed, he now admits. In December 2017, Flynn pleaded guilty to a false statements charge and began cooperating with Mueller’s investigation.

Mueller’s indictment of Roger Stone alleges that the GOP operative gave a false story to explain his knowledge about WikiLeaks.

Stone was accused of lying about this to the House Intelligence Committee in 2017, and trying to tamper with a witness — Credico — so that he would stick to that false story. And, after a November 2019 trial, Stone was found guilty on all counts.

Carlos Ponce

Oh yes, Papadopoulos who got a WHOPPING 14 day sentence.......[rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

....and that was for a process crime. He spent NO TIME, ZERO, ZIP, NADA for what you post. And Jim ranks him as a CRIMINAL.[rolleyes]

Jim Forsythe

"Carlos Ponce ....and that was for a process crime. He spent NO TIME, ZERO, ZIP, NADA for what you post. And Jim ranks him as a CRIMINAL"

You can call it what you want, but George Papadopoulos did the crime and also did the time.

November 26, 2016---Former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos began serving his two-week prison sentence on Monday after a judge rejected his last-minute bid to remain free.

Papadopoulos arrived at a minimum-security camp in Oxford, Wisconsin, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

Papadopoulos, who spent 11 months on the Trump campaign after working for Ben Carson's campaign, was arrested in July 2017

In his first interview with the FBI, Papadopoulos claimed that he made the contacts before Trump named him as a member of his campaign foreign policy team in March 2016 and called him an "excellent guy." He actually began communicating with them after he joined the campaign as an energy expert.

Days later, while attending what was billed as a "national security meeting" with Trump, Papadopoulos told the group he had connections that could lead to a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, the court papers say.

While living in London in early March 2016, he spoke with an unidentified Trump-campaign official and learned he would be designated a foreign-policy adviser to the campaign.

Carlos Ponce

"You can call it what you want, but George Papadopoulos did the crime and also did the time.

WOW! A WHO:E !$ DAYS!!!!! Jim, are you familiar with the phrase MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLE HILL??????? And were those FOURTEEN DAYS for ANYTHING you cite? NO. They caught him in a little deviation from the fact. And the sentence of FOURTEEN DAYS reflects that. Mountains out of mole hills- SHEESH!

Jim Forsythe

Part of his punishment was prion time. He also had to give info to Mueller to help with the cases against others. This is hardly get off with a lite penalty.

"As part of his plea agreement, Papadopoulos agreed to cooperate with Mueller as part of his probe into Russian meddling during the 2016 campaign."

You said "they caught him in a little deviation from the fact." was that not what Clinton was impeached for!

Carlos Ponce

"was that not what Clinton was impeached for!" NO, Jim, definitely NOT! It' s sad if you think so.

Jim Forsythe

Clinton was lying. .Papadopoulos was lying,

FBI interviewed Papadopoulos about all this in January 2017, he repeatedly lied about what happened, he now admits

You either tell the truth or you do not like Clinton and Papadopoulos . You can argue degree, but they both lied.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, if you cannot grasp the difference then I cannot help you.

Jim Forsythe

You either tell the truth or you do not like Clinton and Papadopoulos . You can argue degree, but they both lied.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, nobody cares.

Charles Douglas

IT also take someone to look for wrong doing in order to FIND wrong doing. Notice how the Deep State and the DEMS have searched all around Joe and Hunter for wrong doing and found nothing? Notice how CROOKED, did away with over 30 thousand subpoenaed emails then beat up her blackberry, and acid washed her hard drive, and still did not get charged with a crime? Notice how all Crooked's attorneys and associates got handed immunity deals like candy at Halloween, for no reason other than to give them a clean getaway card? Notice how the FBI, agents lead by Peter Struzok, never interviewed the Clinton gang under oath? Why? So please don't come BUSSING in here comparing numbers of INDICTMENTS, per party ....please! As far as Horowitz's report is concern, for me it was giving him the benefit of the doubt, and he disappointed. I hoped he would've come back with more, but intimidation is a "MUG!" He is a lightweight anyway! My boy DURHAM, will answer any questions, the IG, was to afraid to tackle! Don't take my word for it......WAIT AND SEE!!!!!!

Paula Flinn

To the USA much is given and much is expected. Our allies rely on us because we are are a much bigger and a more populated country than the others. What makes America really “great” is not just the money. It’s the influence and reputation we hold and esteem in which we are held, among the others. Those qualities are sadly lacking, now, under this President, who is a bully and “all about the money.” Trump always puts profits before people, including our allies. What a small country pays should not be our business.

Carlos Ponce

"Our allies rely on us because we are are a much bigger and a more populated country than the others." And when they say bad things about our country just sit back and take it? I think not. Taking advantage of a benefactor is not good.

Charles Douglas

It never cease to amaze me as to the number of people in this country who if you did not know better, you would swear they were secret agents from Europe, and the Middle East! I mean in every way! They favor China, Mexico, Guatemala, all the NATO countries over the country they live and make their living in! Many back in the day would associate such attitudes and actions as disloyal, and treasonous! One more thing, I would not characterize, Germany, England, France, and ITALY as poor little "#$& hole countries by the roadside, who are incapable paying their way! They are some of the richest countries in the world, and it is high time SOMEBODY made them act like it! I love it that we have a President who are making them act like what they are supposed to be. They act like America is their Daddy, and they are the 25 year old millennium son who is to lazy to move out of his father's basement to support himself. I see no reason for American troops to be in Germany and France, both of whom are nuclear powers! Also as In said yesterday, some people in this country and a few on this forum seem to think that the American taxpayers are obligated to PAY the bills of every person in this country, every person who cross the border, every person in their home country, and send our young troops to die for them on the field of battle too! I saw that [censored] up close when we left Vietnam. Everything was fine while were there dying, but the second we pulled out, the South Vietnamese threw their weapons down and surrendered! Right now we have troops in Germany, while they are in cahoots with Russia working against America who are there to protect them from,...WAIT for it....RUSSIA!!!!

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