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Bailey Jones

An interesting 2019 study found that while left and right are divided, we're not as divided as we think. We misperceive the other side as having views more extreme than they actually do.

https://perceptiongap.us/media/zaslaroc/perception-gap-report-1-0-3.pdf

The most listened to opinion programs are all on conservative talk radio. The most listened to news programs are all on National Public Radio.

Carlos Ponce

If your posts are indicative of what you've heard on NPR - I'll pass.

Ted Gillis

You prefer sand in your ears?

Dan Freeman

Fox News, NewsMax and other conservative opinion shows have been forced to recant their lies about the election. When NPR errs, they admit it. Refreshing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/12/21/fox-news-newsmax-walk-back-election-fraud-claims-after-voting-machine-manufacturer-threatens-legal-action/?sh=3ddae83fcfd2

Carlos Ponce

Forensics on the machines have shown these machines are not reliable.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, that has debunked. It came from OANN.

11.16.2020

In an all-caps tweet on Saturday night, Trump highlighted a report from One America News Network (OANN), a right-wing outlet, that claimed voting machines made by Dominion Voting Systems had "switched" more than 200,000 votes from Trump to Biden and "deleted" another 900,000 Trump votes.

The OANN report that Trump tweeted claimed that "data obtained from Edison Research," a polling firm, proved the allegations. But Edison Research has published no such report and has no data suggesting anything like that, the company's president said.

Carlos Ponce

Since I'm NOT citing OANN nor Edison research, your post is ....STRANGE. This is what I'm citing:

Allied Security Operations Group Preliminary Forensics exam of Dominion Voting Systems for Atrim, Michigan

https://www.scribd.com/document/488080093/Antrim-Michigan-Forensics-Report-121320-PRELIMINARY?secret_password=6tgofj7cUYx1kQwElves#from_embed

Jim Forsythe

You are citing OANN, since it is the origins of this theory. Trump is using more of the stuff from OANN, and is using what Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn spout out which are mostly OANN positions. These include invoking martial law.

Flynn had suggested on Newsmax that Trump essentially declare martial law, sending the U.S. military into "swing states" to make them "rerun" the election.

Carlos would you be in favor of Trump invoking martial law?

There is starting to be talk about Pence and the 25 amendment being used against Trump. If Trump continues as he has the past few weeks, Pence may invoke the 25 amendment.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, Allied Security Operations Group is not OANN.

Jim Forsythe

You are citing OANN, since it is the origins of this theory.

Carlos Ponce

No, Jim. OANN has nothing to do with the report.

Jim Forsythe

No, the origins of this theory. was OANN. Without OANN, you would not have a theory that is being investigation by conspiracist . As it is not going to amount to anything, it does not matter.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, you are so wrong. First there is no theory. The fact is that in Antrim County, Michigan on NOVEMBER 3 an election official was alerted when their Red County's vote tabulation came up to favor Biden. A check showed over 6000 votes had been switch from Trump to Biden. No theory .... FACT. At first they reported it as a computer "glitch". Then officials jumped in claiming it was human error. DON'T YOU REMEMBER? This led to forensic tests being run on other Dominion Voting Systems and it showed the same error in six states. Your OANN had nothing to do with it other than report it. It even appeared in the GCDN forums back in November:

Robert Braeking Nov 18, 2020 5:50am - "How were Dominion® voting machines designed? To include a 'glitch' that can be manipulated by the operators to change results. We got a clue to this in Michigan. Now analysis of the software has confirmed that it is possible to change the count. If it can be done it will be done. Even democrats Warren and Klobichar have complained about this possibility. Why must the data be held on a server in Frankfort? Why do we use foreign manufactured machines?"

"The American Thinker" reported it on November 8:

"Something changing is not a 'glitch.' It is a change.Software does not wake up in the morning and suddenly shift 6,000 votes from candidate A to candidate B, as in Biden. An electrical impulse hitting from that outdoor lightning strike does not make code do something different. It may fry a hard drive, but it does not change vote counts."

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/11/there_are_no_software_glitches.html

Why you would pick one of the holiest days in the year, Christmas, to perpetuate your nonsense is beyond me.

Carlos Ponce

This is from Antrim County's Facebook page:

November 4, 2020

For Immediate Release

Antrim County Unofficial Election Results

ANTRIM COUNTY, Mich. – Early this morning, the Antrim County Clerk, Sheryl Guy, became aware of apparently skewed results in the Unofficial Election Result tabulations. Since then, the Clerk’s Office has been reviewing the results and the multiple redundancies to search out any possible discrepancies. Staff is currently working with township officials and with Election Source, the company that provides the voting software programs and hardware. “By this afternoon, we expect to have a clear answer and a clear plan of action addressing any issue,” said Sheryl Guy, Antrim County Clerk. “Until then, we are asking all interested parties to bear with us while we get to the bottom of this.” Further information will be released as it becomes available throughout the day.

https://www.facebook.com/AntrimCountyMI/posts/186111776300742?__xts__[0]=68.ARD2bv8pPOmEGm6Djds5SqYpEFJSuO28NOp5IRpDI9GrM-mcLyTuTxFsneBbgM6die5fg8jn0Piaz6g2IfWwZUTm87VPOK9y5kmYWZ6C1ilDlvOhTiks22EglMTuHpUAhni1LO19SbuuAYLlSEtUm_uNRw0-7bbKP_0Uwh4jDLEwSQPzbDVsMUaZ8_c7cAjNLk-JKVNHMC0Dmt-ZDXIjptTFU1_lteN0zWXfurtBouBWMrAH4MdrZvlh8nLyDitQ4cHtDlKtJiywXT1sTqkrTYYeDAa3UTECf9NC9ul1tVWOY76m9rBM38QPIn61rTj9EbtF4yiQ1_rZE8ch6KA&__xts__[1]=68.ARAjn1AvOVDgmRib5PaxKqKn118nhRr9r9z-w6zFobUbjhX7YEbjmXVKG_A0jSqTpa60dGh1iZx694n1ekgH-vlv-1ujEPlpXNA2stLq0jOyL6IN73OJwKFEvO0fs2lJeJX6NqUgsG1hiin2gD53CFL3ICC1nxxQFGxmGHGSDEIHD-tjCnoTBgaCCtVVOwIegYoOnXaGHcJqO-wIotC-cqWM2yGRFgODbIgZdqozTxcWRaN_dCqBIomG7lL0_CakT8xxDWaI8X1EoJH1G7B8aiWMy0wuFWNRLuK2OY7af9awO_luWKyefw41cbrUyJvgUeAKAzV9OTS1oJMuZ-c

Curtiss Brown

Reading comments on these pages and elsewhere I get the feeling that people who are rational, reasonable, consistent, believe in the democratic principles and institutions of our nation are called 'radical leftists.' And people who believe in voter fraud and sincere patriots.

Don Schlessinger

Great example of misinformation.

Dan Freeman

Breaking news: Trump has fled Washington to Mar-a-Lago. Having vetoed the Defense Authorization bill and leaving COVID relief and government funding in jeopardy, guess who flew to Mar-a-Lago? He maybe easier to evict than was thought. By Loser in Chief.

Jim Forsythe

Dan, it looks like the neighbors do not want Trump to stay at Mar-a-Lago!

Neighbors of the “Winter White House” have delivered a letter to the town of Palm Beach and to the U.S. Secret Service, demanding that Trump find somewhere else to live.

Not only is the president unwanted, but the letter claims that he legally cannot move back, citing an agreement he signed in the 1990s when he converted the estate from a residence to a private club. This could prove to become an issue for Trump, who abandoned New York and changed his official residence to Mar-a-Lago in order to vote in Florida.

In the demand letter, Reginald Stambaugh, an attorney for the Mar-a-Lago neighbors, suggested Trump avoid using the private club as his residence in order to “avoid an embarrassing situation”

The letter comes after years of complaints as Trump’s frequent visits to Mar-a-Lago have led to increased traffic and disruptions in the neighborhood.

Carlos Ponce

More Trump hater posts. Haters gotta hate.

Thomas Carpenter

Still waiting on that Christmas miracle.

Bailey Jones

It's been moved to January 6th, known as Epiphany in the Trumpolic Church.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey, there is no "Trumpolic Church". There is only God's church of which President Trump has been defending the free exercise clause.

Carlos Ponce

Let your hear not be troubled. Things are in place Now sit back and watch God at work.

Carlos Ponce

Thomas, if you haven't noticed, reports of the bombing in Nashville have taken over the news so you are not going to hear of what's happening about Trump's re-election. I could tell you but I want it to be a surprise.

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