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Gary Scoggin

Well said, Harvey.

Patricia C Newsom

“We need about three generations to evolve back to

Civil humans”…… so true.

Carlos Ponce

"For example, raising the age to legally buy an AR-15." The Ninth Circuit Court has ruled that is in-Constitutional.

"The idea being that by 21, the desperate, dangerous humans will have gotten help or be locked up." But Democrats are pushing a bill to allow 16 year olds to vote.

From HR 1; For the People Act:

"Treatment of Individuals Under 18 Years of Age.--A State may not refuse to treat an individual as an eligible individual for purposes of this part on the grounds that the individual is less than 18 years of age at the time a contributing agency receives information with respect to the individual, so long as the individual is at least 16 years of age at such time....."

Dwight Burns

"But Democrats are pushing a bill to allow 16 year olds to vote." Well, a first time for everything. I'm not aware of such a push by either party. Anyway, what does voting and selling a 18 year old a AR-15 have to do with each other? Oh, never heard of in-Constitutional.

Carlos Ponce

" I'm not aware of such a push by either party." Please read HB1: For the people Act promoted by Democrat Party.

"Anyway, what does voting and selling a 18 year old a AR-15 have to do with each other?" Mature enough to vote, mature enough to be drafted but not old enough to purchase a firearm?

"in-Constitutional." Typo. The letters "u' and "i" are next to each other on the keyboard.

Many mass murders committed by those on marijuana. Why are some promoting it as "harmless"? Oh well, you can't fix STUPID.

Bailey Jones

Carlos, I hope you're reporting all these red herrings to Capt. Dillman.

Carlos Ponce

Bailey is the King of red herrings.

Gary Miller

Dwight > I call that a miss spell.

Bailey Jones

It's not "people". Other "people" don't have daily mass shootings. It's Americans.

Carlos Ponce

They have mass killings, Bailey: bombings stabbings, gas, etc. And look at how many were killed by the Chinese through release of a virus.

Gary Scoggin

The overall intentional homicide rate in the US is much higher than in any European country not currently at war.

Bailey Jones

If anyone else is as ignorant as Carlos of how our homicide rate compares to the rest of the world, and (unlike Carlos) wishes to remedy that ignorance, here are a couple of educational resources -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate - America's per capita homicide rate is higher than 136 out of 195 countries.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/murder-rate-by-country - America's per capita homicide rate is higher than 120 out of 175 countries.

Carlos Ponce

Did I ever post about the rate, Bailey? You are in serious need of reading comprehension tutoring.

Typical Liberal tactic: obfuscate by LYING.

Bailey Jones

Carlos, thank you for conceding that the homicide rate in the US greatly exceeds most other developed nations. [thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

No conceding, just pointing out your lack of reading comprehension.

Jim Forsythe

The Gun Violence, 214 mass shootings in the US so far in 2022. More than 17,300 people have lost their lives due to gun violence in 2022.

Gary Miller

Jim you are including crimes in Democratic controled States and cities. Usually one death at a time. That's not mass shootings. FBI reports an average of 5 school shooting deaths per year. Non school mass killings average less than ten people a year. Some years are higher some are less but not as much as you claim.

Jim Forsythe

Gary, to date we have had 214 mass shootings in the USA. If that not bad enough to make you stop and think that we, the people of the USA are doing something wrong, nothing will. 17,300 people have died from gun violence so far this year.

Deaths are deaths and if a person is a Democrat, Republican Independent they leave their family's missing them.

Gary Miller

Other country's have fewer mass shootings because their socialist governments disarmed their SUBJECTS/ They use bombs, knives, cars, clubs and any handy lethal weapon they can get..

Gary Scoggin

They may use those other weapons but their homicide rates are much lower.

Carlos Ponce

Just as deadly....[scared]

Gary Scoggin

Dead is dead, but fewer is fewer.

Carlos Ponce

Placing "conditionals" on data is obfuscation.

Gary Scoggin

Putting conditional on data increases it’s granularity making for better analysis. It’s the opposite of obsfucation.

Carlos Ponce

Not if those conditionals lack uniformity.

Diane Turski

I agree with Harvey! Vote for representatives who will enact common sense legislation that affects their constituents in all areas of their lives! Remember in November!!

Carlos Ponce

Yes, we'll remember in November not to vote for any Liberal.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Ponce> Amen! Right on the money!!!![thumbup]

C. Patterson

🙌

Gary Miller

Diane >Please remember in November? If you want more crime vote for Democrats.

Jose' Boix

Harvey makes compelling and rational points. To add, below a quick search of posted government regulations (rules/acts/laws) regarding "weapons." The summary tends to support that "governmental noise" has done little to nothing to curb, decrease or lessen the results of just having "weapons" around. Just my thoughts.

According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/brady-law

1. National Firearms Act (NFA) originally enacted in 1934. A 1968 Supreme Court decision made the 1934 Act virtually unenforceable.

2. Title II of the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968. In 1971, the Supreme Court reexamined the NFA in the Freed case and found that the 1968 amendments cured the constitutional defect in the original NFA. Title II also amended the NFA definitions of “firearm” by adding “destructive devices” and expanding the definition of “machine gun.”

3. Firearm Owners’ Protection Act. In 1986, this Act amended the NFA definition of “silencer” by adding combinations of parts for silencers and any part intended for use in the assembly or fabrication of a silencer. The Act also amended the GCA to prohibit the transfer or possession of machine guns. Exceptions were made for transfers of machine guns to, or possession of machine guns by, government agencies, and those lawfully possessed before the effective date of the prohibition, May 19, 1986.

4. Brady Law: On November 30, 1993, the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act was enacted, amending the Gun Control Act of 1968. The interim provisions of the Brady Law became effective on February 28, 1994, and ceased to apply on November 30, 1998. While the interim provisions of the Brady Law apply only to handguns, the permanent provisions of the Brady Law apply to all firearms.

Gary Miller

Harvey > You are correct that the NRA helped pass the three carttrige rule. To keep "people" from killing two many geese, ducks and migratory birds to protect the resourcce. The steel shot rule was for the same reason.

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