As the nation pauses to observe Black History Month, we must admit that as people we have come a long way. However, as a nation, we still have a very long way to go. I will not recapitulate all of the problems that we still face, but the nation is encountering some serious problems. As citizens, we’re steamrolling toward an authoritarianism form of government.

In the midst of the celebrations of three honored Americans — Martin Luther King Jr., George Washington and Abraham Lincoln — the nation is witnessing the complete dismantling of the Constitution. Our present occupant of the Oval Office seems to believe that we’re his servants, and he’s our dictator. He really believes that anyone who has the audacity to contradict him should be punished.

However, hope is still alive. Recently, Mitt Romney stood on his godly principle, as he stood alone against his political party, and spoke truth to power. Immediately afterward, Sen. Romney was publicly vilified by the president. As the senator explained his decision, I could hear my saintly mother singing an old gospel hymn, “What Is This?”

As I meditated on Sen. Romney’s profile in courage, my spirit traveled back in time to my home church, Rising Star Baptist Church. I could envision and hear the Rev. D. N. Benford as he looked out over the congregation and sang “I Know the Lord Will Make a Way Somehow.” The adults and children would stand and shout the lyrics because we believed it then, and we believe it now.

During the observance of Black History Month, we should, as people, thank God for the distance he has brought this nation, and we should not stand by, for the sake of a political party, and let this nation be torn down.

Some of us who are Democrats and Christians will never support everything that the party advocates. However, it’s time for us to take a stand because many who espouse principles that are contrary to the teachings of God are now some of the frontrunners in the Democratic primaries as well. Those of us who were raised in the Christian faith know beyond a shadow of doubt that God’s word is anchored in truth. (John 8:32)

As the president weaponized the presidency, he didn’t understand that our African American heritage prepared us for this Babylonian experience. Simply put, the Word of God, when we listen, after we pray, prepares us for survival in hard and harsh times. The study of black history teaches us that serving the Lord will pay off. We’ve learned that God fights battles like no one else. Sen. Romney has earned a great deal of respect in the African American community because he didn’t forsake his God, and he was not afraid to speak it.

The Rev. James E. Daniels is founder and chairman of the Eagles’ Nest community organization and lives in Texas City.

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Jarvis Buckley

Romney didn’t take a stand. He embarrassed himself & his supporters that voted for him. Mostly because of our President endorsing

him. Like you he embarrassed himself to all that knew and respected him.

Carlos Ponce

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel distanced herself from her uncle, as she has previously done when Romney has criticized Trump.

"This is not the first time I have disagreed with Mitt, and I imagine it will not be the last," McDaniel tweeted. "The bottom line is President Trump did nothing wrong, and the Republican Party is more united than ever behind him. I, along with the @GOP, stand with President Trump."

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/05/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-mitt-romney-impeachment-vote/index.html

African Americans view the term "Uncle Tom" as a derogatory comment.

Looks like "Uncle Mitt" has a similar connotation.

Charles Douglas

I got a couple of words I want to say TONIGHT! Anointed words !!!! These two words are the most feared words in the WORLD NOW!! THESE two words send shivers up the spines of DEMOCRATS, NEVER TRUMPERS, AND TERRORISTS alike!!! " TRUMP DIESEL!"

Charles Douglas

[beam]

Ray Taft

“...God fights battles like no one else...” That’s true.

Suppose God is using President Trump to fight His battle against all that is wrong in Washington. And President Trump is winning for America. Then Sen. Romney (who voted to acquit President Trump on the other fake impeachment article), Democrats and Never Trumps are all fighting against God.

Which means God might forsake them all! President Trump may very well be God’s chosen leader for this time, as many Christian ministers have stated.

If it is evil in your eyes to see all the good that President Trump has done for the common folks in America, then honor the RINOs and Democrats.

If not, then vote to re-elect President Trump to Keep America Great! It may very well put you on God’s side.

Gary Miller

Ray> Well said.

Carlos Ponce

Daniels must have forgotten that there were two articles of impeachment and Senator Romney voted for only one of them - abuse of power. And why did he vote for that one? He wanted to hear from John Bolton. But John Bolton said his testimony would not have changed the impeachment outcome. In his interview with Susan Rice at Vanderbilt University Bolton said, "I would bet you a dollar right here and now, my testimony would have made no difference to the ultimate outcome."

Bailey Jones

I also believe that Senator Romney was exercising his religious faith when he took a stand against his party and the president, and I commend him for it. And I commend you for encouraging your fellow Democrats to do the same.

To act according to one's conscience and one's own faith and beliefs is the duty of every member of society. Unfortunately, as history shows (and the GCDN peanut gallery has shown yet again), there's no guarantee that following faith, belief, or conscience, will lead us out of the wilderness.

But it's still worth celebrating.

Gary Miller

Bailey> Romney is just a sore looser.

Bailey Jones

Romney is the least loose person I've ever seen.

Paula Flinn

Ditto, Bailey Jones.

Carlos Ponce

"I also believe that Senator Romney was exercising his religious faith" That's your belief. When I heard of it and read his "intent" I thought of an old song:

(What they do)

(They smile in your face)

All the time they want to take your place

The back stabbers (back stabbers)

(They smile in your face)

All the time they want to take your place

The back stabbers (back stabbers)

Bailey Jones

Sorry, Carlos, my bad. I forgot that you can hear the voice of God in other people's heads.

"God told him how to vote, he did not listen." - Carlos, 2/6/20

Carlos Ponce

Gift of discernment is not hearing the voice of God in your head. It is a spiritual gift that God gives to believers in order to recognize lying spirits and to identify deceptive and erroneous doctrines.

Bailey Jones

lol. And of course, you have it. Probably saves you a lot of time on "fact checking".

Emile Pope

Henry Drummond : The Gospel according to Brady! God speaks to Brady, and Brady tells the world! Brady, Brady, Brady, Almighty!

Matthew Harrison Brady : All of you know what I stand for - what I believe! I believe in the truth of the Book of Genesis! Exodus! Leviticus! Numbers! Deuteronomy! Joshua! Judges! Ruth! First Samuel! Second Samuel! First Kings! Second Kings! Isaiah! Jeremiah! Lamentations! Ezekiel!...from Inherit The Wind...

Bailey Jones

[thumbup] I had to look up that one, Emile.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Miller, ...Romney is a jealous RINO! He loves to stick-to the President anyway or anytime he can. His treacherous vote had nothing to do with his religion. Romney once called The President a SCAM artist, a HOAX, and a CHARLATAN! Romney is a traitor and a back-stabber of the highest order! One thing Romney and others better learn and they better learn it well, ..You can't hurt who GOD is helping, ..and You can't curse who GOD is blessing! Ask King BALAK!! A desert rock laying in the heat and sand could have figured out that GOD is helping TRUMP, and ISRAEL by NOW! They are all tied together! One could ask Jehosaphat, who was on his way to fight an army many times the size of his, but when he arrived to the battlefield, he found all the enemies dead! Maybe King Nebuchadnezzar would be a better choice! He is the smart guy who put three Hebrew boys, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, in a fiery furnace seven times hotter than normal because they would not bow to his erected idol. The King had three people cast into the furnace but peeped in from a distance and saw the SON OF GOD IN THERE WITH THEM! One might want evidence closer to this time period maybe, okay ..ask the six or seven countries who foolishly JUMPED ON Israel in 1967 .... and Super Powers had to pull Israel off all of them put together! If all this does not convince people that GOD does get involved in this earth ...Then just keep thinking different! No skin off me! There is no power on earth greater than the power Jesus sent to this earth, when he went to his Father's side, ..called the Holy Spirit to be our Helper, Teacher, Counselor, and Comforter! Let he who has ears to hear, let him hear!!

Charles Douglas

Joe Biden just asked a bunch of African-Americans in South Carolina

to take a look at him and support his candidacy to the U S Senate!

Joe Biden cannot even remember he is running for President! WOW!!!

This man is who the LEFT and the DEMOCRATS want to run the country! While Ole Joe is sticking his foot in his mouth, Ole BUTTIGIEG is running around eating fried chicken with HOT SCAUCE, and drinking a FORTY OUNCE bottle of beer in a brown paper bag with Black People! I cannot believe this stuff!! Interesting thing about BUTTIGIEG is why did he not do those thing with African-Americans in Indiana? It all about lying to a bunch of Black people in order to get their vote, and then not delivering!

Jim Forsythe

Charles, did you watch the clip with Desus and Mero as host. If you had, you may have a different take on what happened when they interviewed Pete Buttigieg

Desus and Mero Mayor interview of Pete Buttigieg from The Last Laugh on Apple Podcasts (text from the clip)

Desus: “People were like, he looked uncomfortable being around two people of color. No, we took him to a neighborhood he’s not familiar with, he doesn’t really know us.”

Mero: “He’s from South Bend, Indiana and we took him to Dyckman uptown.”

Desus: “We’re walking through a park with very little security. And we’re super comfortable. We know the rules and stuff. But also, he has to be careful, he’s running for president. But he was a good sport about everything. We got a little blowback online because people said he was pandering to the black vote by drinking 40s in the park. First of all, that comment is so racist, because we weren’t drinking 40s. [They were drinking a bottle of scotch covered in a paper bag, and only one drink.] And also the idea that black people are monolithic and we’re going to vote for someone just because he drank a 40? ‘Mayor Pete’s invited to the cookout!’ No, that’s not how black people vote.”

Charles Douglas

Yes BUTTIGIEG got caught, forty and all! He as well as the rest of the LEFT and DEMOCRATS are going to have to deliver NOW! All this hot sauce on fried chicken, drinking 40s and talking in EBONICS is simply not going to.cut it anymore! Y'all got to PRODUCE NOW.

Jim Forsythe

Charles, if you had watched the clip that Desus and Mero posted for The Last Laugh on Apple Podcasts, you would know it was not a 40.If you had watch the clip you would know that no one eat fried chicken or used hot sauce. Did you watch the original clip, or some doctored clip. As far as EBONICS I'm not expert in EBONICS, but he sounded as he always does to me.

Jim Forsythe

This is what Desus: said, one of the host of the show "First of all, that comment is so racist, because we weren’t drinking 40s. [They were drinking a bottle of scotch covered in a paper bag, and only one drink.] And also the idea that black people are monolithic and we’re going to vote for someone just because he drank a 40? ‘Mayor Pete’s invited to the cookout!’ No, that’s not how black people vote.”"

Jim Forsythe

A persons religion is what they deem it is to them. No one should judge if a person is following the teaching of a church. Mitt Romney is Mormon and what you believe may not be what he believes, unless you are Mormon. Remember, Judge not lest ye be judged.

God does not have a political party. To try and say that a President is being helped by God and God would not have helped anyone else, is selling God short. Did God help Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Regain, Carter and the rest of the past Presidents?

Mitt Romney said he voted the way he did in part because of his religion. Unless you know how he practices his religion, you have no idea how he wrapped his heart around his vote. How many other Senators have declared that they depend on their religion to help them make decisions. If you are truly a religious person, you need to be applauding him and not hating him.

Carlos Ponce

Nancy Pelosi claims she does not hate and to believe her because she is Catholic. I am Catholic. I do not believe her. It comes from the spiritual gift of discernment.

Charles Douglas

You got at least one thing right in all of what you said, and that is I am NOT A RELIGIOUS INDIVIDUAL!!! I take it that you and ROMNEY are! If that float your boat ...okay by me!!!! I'm a Christian, who is led of the Spirit! Therefore I I know how to recognize the fruit which falls from a tree! A tree is recognized by the fruit that it bears! YOU think so much of Romney because he back-stabbed Trump, and I think very little of him because he did! Now you want to call me a hater, think what you like, but I call it like a I see it! I'm under a command to love mankind, but I dont remember any command saying I had to LIKE everybody I come upon! Now, anymore wisdom?

Jim Forsythe

How many other Senators have declared that they depend on their religion to help them make decisions. If you are truly a religious person, you need to be applauding him and not hating him.

Paula Flinn

I believe her. She prays for her friends and her enemies. We were taught to do that. I do the same.

Charles Douglas

Are you even reading what I'm saying? I just told you a few minutes ago, that I don't consider myself to be a religious INDIVIDUAL! I'm a born again Christian save by grace, who is progressively trying to live a life of good works, seeking and saving that which is lost, and tearing down the works of hell. NOW I will leave religion to those who wants it! Okay? It is not what I consider myself to be a part of! Sorry if you and Romney don't agree! So you do you, and I will do me.You like Romney because you don't like Trump, and Romney back-stabbed him. It would be nice if you could admit that, but I won't hold my breathe! One other thing for the record, I don't care how many other senators feel what or why! Romney call Trump a CHARLATAN and a Con Artist, and he Back-stabbed him the first chance he got! So that is what I believe and I'm sticking to it. Thank you for being his advocate but no avail, I'm not changing my mind on him nor JOE BIDEN NOR BUTTIGIEG! 40s, EBONICS AND Hot Sauce on Fried Chicken! Those days are over!

Carlos Ponce

Discernment - a gift of the Holy Spirit, helps us. A woman who puts her beliefs on hold to advance and hold her political career is not a prayerful person.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, I think this discernment thing is new to the forum. It’s a pretty cool gift if it allows you to know what a person is really thinking so you can then publicly judge them for it. What’s really cool is that you can use this gift on people you’ve never met or even seen personally.

Paula Flinn

“A woman who puts her beliefs on hold to advance and hold a political career is not a prayerful person.”

How about a group of cowardly men and women who put their beliefs on hold to advance and hold their political careers in the Republican Senate after some very fine patriots swore under oath to tell the truth, when the president abused his power?

Your accusing words about Speaker Pelosi are so judgmental. “Them’s fightin’ words” among my friends.

Carlos Ponce

Paula, I heard the testimony or rather lack of it and came up with the same conclusions. There was ABSOLUTELY NO Constitutional grounds for impeachment and ABSOLUTELY NO grounds for removal. If you were waiting for John Bolton, remember he said his testimony would not have changed the outcome and added the House “committed impeachment malpractice”.

"Your accusing words about Speaker Pelosi are so judgmental. 'Them’s fightin’ words” among my friends.' " I am not judging anyone, Paula. That is up to the Lord your God to judge. I am following scripture Matthew 18:15-17:

“If your brother sins, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother. If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that ‘every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell the church. If he refuses to listen even to the church, then treat him as you would a Gentile or a tax collector."

Nancy refuses to listen to Church teachings. Joe Biden who holds similar beliefs was denied Communion in a Catholic Church.

A judgement of Nancy Pelosi would look like this: "Nancy Pelosi is going to Hell". I did not do that. Just pointing out that she is wrong.

In the early 19th Century some would say, " I am against slavery and would not own one but would not tell someone they cannot own a slave." Would you agree with them? Of course not (I hope).

In the 21st Century, Pelosi says, "I am against abortion and would not have one but would not tell another woman she cannot have one."

The Catholic Church finds abortion EVIL. Catechism 2271 "Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral evil of every procured abortion. This teaching has not changed and remains unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law..."

Shouldn't we help those women thinking about abortion not to do evil? Nancy does not think so. Remember, Nancy Pelosi says she is Catholic.

Emile Pope

Apparently he received his gift from St Hannity of Fox...

Carlos Ponce

Your name may be Pope but you don't know what you're writing about.

Kimberley Jones Yancy

Great article Rev. Daniel’s. It’s sad that politics are so far right and far left. It leaves little for the middle. A lot of people TALKING about Christ and yet they have abandoned His Church and principles.

Dalton Logan

So Kimberley, those who support those who support abortion and late term killing of babies do you think they have abandoned 'His Church and principals' or do you believe this is inline with Gods teachings?

Jim Forsythe

Dalton, not all churches are against abortions. Some of the churches that have views different than you.

1. United Church of Christ 2. Unitarian Universalist Association 3. Metropolitan Community Church 4. Presbyterian Church USA 5. Evangelical Lutheran Church 6. Christ Church (Assembly of God) 7. United Methodist Church .

19 May, 2019

Not everyone is going to agree about abolitions. You may be part of the 18% of all U.S. adults think it should be illegal in all circumstances or you may have some other view.

With regards to first trimester abortions, 90% of pro-choice Americans support their legality in most cases, while 40% of pro-life voters think it should be legal.

In the political arena 59% of Republicans think abortion should be mostly illegal, while 76% of Democrats say abortion should be legal in most cases.These positions have become hardened over time as in 1995, just 49% of Republicans supported keeping abortion legal and 64% of Democrats.

Where Americans do seem to agree is in cases where a woman's life is in danger, with 83% saying abortion should be legally allowed (including 71% of pro-lifers). In cases of rape and incest, 77% support abortion rights (96% of pro-choicers and 57% of pro-life Americans).

While Americans take complex positions on abortion, it should be pointed out that only 18% of all U.S. adults think it should be illegal in all circumstances. Most support some form of abortion being allowed.

Charles Douglas

Mr. Logan, don't change your opinion which you posted! You are right as East Texas Rain! Jim, seems to think right and truth depends on how many men elects to go a certain way on a thing GOD has commanded! In fact it make no difference how many or the size of percentages that agrees with What GOD has declared! Matthew 12:30 States, " HE WHO IS NOT WITH ME IS AGAINST ME...." JOSHUA 12:15 States, "And if it seems evil to you to serve the LORD, choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell. But as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.” So it does not matter how many Americans or how many preachers agree with the Word of God! God knows a baby before he enters the womb and calls and ordains it before it enters the world. Many times I wondered what the world would have looked like if my mother had aborted me. Think of the lives which would have been altered if you had been MURDERED in the womb or on the delivery table! God bless you Mr. Logan!

Dalton Logan

To be honest with you Jim, I don't think the establishment of a church or a religion just to parallel and justify a particular belief so you can have an excuse for the justification for the horrific act of destroying an unborn child for convenience is going to fool anyone. One day we will all have to justify ourselves to a much higher authority. We are not here by accident. How horrible would it be if we may have aborted the one God sent us to discover a vaccine for the coronavirus, cancer or heart disease? I also do not believe that just the people who approve, promote or carry out the killing of the unborn are the only ones going to have to answer one day. I also believe all of us will be explaining about how we could let this happen.

Charles Douglas

I saw bits and snips of the DEMOCRATIC debates last night. I didn't bother to tune in,..just bits and pieces by way of the news. It was a mess,..CHAOS.....a Catastrophe! One guy will tax everything and everybody, even impose a death tax, same guy wants to implement a total government takeover of the country, like CUBA , and Venezuela, and still another frontrunner can't remember if he was running for President or Senator! Lolo. Then there was still another guy who publicly admitted that he bought and paid for the DEMOCRATIC majority in the House Of Representatives! He lies so much ...he did not expect the TRUTH to suddenly JUMP out of his mouth! Should have seen the look on his face. Lolo. It scared him! Then another had to bring up REPARATIONS to African-Americans! He proved my point though because he said this, " I am the only one on this stage who believe there should be REPARATIONS to slave descendents!" Wait, wait, it was not long ago that EVERY DEMOCRATIC candidate running said they would support REPARATIONS! That many have forgotten already? Just as I figured all along! Not that I supported it in the first place, but it proved my point! The Democrats have been doing this for decades, 40 ACRES and A Mule, a Chicken In Every Pot, this and that, but never delivering, and now they will be held accountable! That Black and Hispanic vote is slowly ...slipping away because somebody is in the WHITE HOUSE IS... delivering, .....For everybody! Amen! It does not get any better than That! Opportunities for anybody ready to learn and work, juxtapose to getting everything FREE, paid for by somebody else! I apologize in advance for how I was raised. I came from a family that believed in HARD WORK!

Carlos Ponce

God has a different opinion, Jim. Read Scripture.

Charles Douglas

..and GOD'S opinion is the only one which matters!!! Not how Many Americans who practice or might have a different opinion! AMEN!

Kimberley Jones Yancy

Dalton, Abortion is a non-negotiable for the Christian believer. I am pro-life. Hence, why I said the middle. However, when I walk in the store and/or try to get a loan I don't get the same treatment as you so while I disagree with some things in both values; I vote based on how I am treated when I walk into THAT store. Racism is sin too and should be a non-negotiable too for the Christian believer.

Jim Forsythe

No one is asking you to change your mind? You have a right to your opinion, just as others do. As I pointed out, people have a difference in what they believe about abortion. If you want to be part of the 18%, great for you. If a 14 year old needs a abortion or she die's, would you say to bad or would you be for the life saving procedure?

Charles Douglas

What would you say to GOD'S word and what he commands? That is your problem, you always have a WHAT IF, this MIGHT ...THIS COULD .....to make a point ! There is no point with me! My faith is in God, and his WORD! THERE ARE NO WHAT IFS IN GOD'S WORD! You either are with Him or you are not! You want to MURDER a baby go for it, but don't come up in here trying to persuade me that is just, and okay! KEEP Planting seeds of doubt, and following those who are on that BROAD ROAD, if you like, but don't try to BOGGERJIVE ME because you cannot! It might be somebody monitoring this conversation, or your worldly percentages, and figures you pulled off the internet or your own learned to understanding, who will agree with you, but I hope not for their sake. I think I have offered up all I have concerning this. Just so I am abundantly clear, I would not set is a church house or listen to a minister nor give my money to an organization who says it's OKAY TO MURDER A HELPLESS CHILD IN OR OUT OF THE WOMB!!!!! NO question about it!!!! Now that is my position, and my opinion based on GOD'S WORD! Have a good day.

Jim Forsythe

Charles. If a 14 year old needs a abortion or she die's, would you say to bad or would you be for the life saving procedure?

Carlos Ponce

"14 year old" That's about the age of Mary when she became pregnant with Jesus....

Jim Forsythe

Was Mary's life in danger?

Carlos, If a 14 year old needs a abortion or she die's, would you say to bad or would you be for the life saving procedure?

Charles Douglas

Jim, here is what God did for a 12 year old female who was near death, like the 14 year old female you have WHAT IF(ed) about in your gamesmanship......This happened in MARK CHAPTER 5:21)..When Jesus had again crossed over by boat to the other side of the lake, a large crowd gathered around him while he was by the lake. 22) Then one of the synagogue leaders, named Jairus, came, and when he saw Jesus, he fell at his feet. 23) He pleaded earnestly with him, “My little daughter is dying. Please come and put your hands on her so that she will be healed and live.” 24) So Jesus went with him. Now in MARK 5: 39 thru 43 Jesus is seen putting out those who were NONE BELIEVERS ...so that faith could work. He took the girl by the hand, prayed over her and the 12 year old was healed, she raised up and Jesus commanded food for her. Jesus Christ is the same YESTERDAY TODAY AND FOREVER! If he did it for a 12 year old ...he will do it for a 14 year old. Read some scripture , and quit perpetuating INFANTICIDE!!!! THAT is the Devil's work! Now ...I'm done here! My work and GOD'S work is done!!!!

Carlos Ponce

"Was Mary's life in danger?" Duh, don't you know your Bible? Yes, her life was in danger. Since Joseph was not the father she could have been branded an adulteress and stoned to death under Mosaic law.

Charles Douglas

[rolleyes]

Charles Douglas

Cudos to Mr. Ponce, for bringing Mary into this, because when he did the Spirit Of God reminded me of JAIRUS' daughter whom he raised from the dead. What a God we serve!!!!!![beam]

Jim Forsythe

Mary's life was not endangered from a medical condition that only a abortion would save her life.

She did not have Twin Transfusion Syndrome or some other syndrome or other problem.

If your family had to decide what to when it happens to your family, then you may have a different view.

Would you abort one twin to save the other, because it you do not they both will die?

The other time the mother was retaining to much amniotic fluid. The same question was asked and we had to decided.

This happened to my family. We had to deal with Twin Transfusion Syndrome and to much amniotic fluid.

So would you be against it in these cases? Charles this is not some what if, so what is your answer?

Charles Douglas

My answer is you need to go learn scripture, gain faith, manufacture some self control over your own spirit, crusify your flesh, and quit perpetuating fear, and the Devil's work and fear speech over what God said! God can and does heal by faith. No need to MURDER BABIES! THAT'S my answer![beam]

Jim Forsythe

So you let a woman die, that could be saved because that's what you believe. Even when a abortion would save her life?

You would let both twins die when one could be saved by a abortion, even when they will both die, unless this is done.

Charles Douglas

You are the Death Angel here not me! Own up tp your own work! I bring the words of life! John 10:10 says Satan and his minions of Death come not but for to Steal, Kill, and Destroy. It goes on to say Jesus came that we might have not only LIFE, BUT have it in abundance. I'M with Jesus and God and his Words of Faith! WOW ..Jim, it seems you are a tool OF DEATH MONGERING! Don't stop I got plenty more for You! I'm standing in the gap, and making up the hedge trying to take you back from the heat!!!!! Lololololo.

Carlos Ponce

"that only a abortion would save her life" Really Jim? This is the 21st Century. With proper pre-natal care and modern medical techniques they can save the girl and the baby. What you post was true in the last and previous centuries but not today. Look at the calendar - it's 2020. Abortion always results in a death.

Charles Douglas

Jim is busy pouring over the internet trying to find something to cross GOD'S WORD UP WITH ...something he gets from some man! This is what LIBERALS do. "They WHAT IF"..."THIS MIGHT HAPPEN".... and this could come about...lololo. Ahhhh LEBERALS! Now they are trying to hang the CORAVIRUS outbreak on Trump Diesel! Really!! Pelosi and CRYBABY SCHUMER, have lost it! EVERYTHING they try to take the President down with,...they bomb! Come up snake eyes!!!!lollo.

Charles Douglas

Lets get one thing straight ....l like Jim,...this is why I have to lean on him a little at times.lololo. However no mistake, I like him. He will hammer his point home without being obnoxious. I respect that from those we interface with on this forum! Was not always the case. You can ask Gary, Mr. Gray, and Mr. Ponce.( OG(s) Anyway, yall olololo, tell JIM, I'm going to bed. L ololo. This triple-LOGUE discussion is over for me.

Gary Scoggin

Breaking in here a day late.... as part of my Lenten commitment, I will be staying off of social media. My soul could use the reset! So Happy Easter everyone and talk to you then!

Charles Douglas

Gary, take it slow! Don't stay away as long as I did, ..we need that balance you bring on this "thang!"

Jim Forsythe

Charles, I did not pour over the internet , but lived with these things that happening to my family. I have asked what you would do and all you do is accuse me of what ifs. Do you believe in abortion if the woman's life is at risk? Do you believe in abortion if both twins will die if one is not removed?

Carlos, hope you never have to deal with a Ectopic pregnancy, but the only treatment is removal.

Ectopic pregnancy, sometimes known as a "tubal" pregnancy, is the number one cause of death of women in the first trimester of pregnancy.

Since the growth of an ectopic pregnancy in the fallopian tubes would rupture the tubes before the end of the first trimester, the pregnancy cannot result in the birth of a baby. In fact, an untreated ectopic pregnancy is a medical emergency and can be fatal if it ruptures without prompt treatment.

Carlos Ponce

"is the number one cause of death of women in the first trimester of pregnancy." And the numbers are???? Ectopic pregnancy is responsible for 6% of maternal deaths during the first trimester of pregnancy.

Ectopic pregnancies usually occur in women older than 35, smoke, have had their tubes tied, had previous fallopian surgeries, etc.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos said, " This is the 21st Century. With proper pre-natal care and modern medical techniques they can save the girl and the baby." which is not true.

Carlos, I have ask you how you would handle Twin Transfusion Syndrome or to much amniotic fluid. Would you terminate the pregnancy in these cases or let both twins die? These are real threats, that my family faced.

Also Placenta previa is life threatening to a woman.

Carlos Ponce

Those scenarios are rare. A pregnant woman does not go to Planned Parenthood if that is the prognosis. Only a small percentage of abortions are due to the health of the mother (0.1% - threaten the mother's life, 0.8% threatens the mother's health). We're talking about LESS THAN ONE PERCENT, JIM!

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/abreasons.html

Dalton Logan

Jim please re-read what I said above. I said 'abortion for convenience' I cannot speak for others but in a life and death situation then the families involved would have to consider the health of the mother and the baby. The mother and father at that time would need to make some hard decisions. I however get the feeling that you may be trying to justify all abortions just on the life and death situation, maybe I'm wrong to think you think this way. Since you like to talk percentages, what would you think the percentage of aborted babies is due to life and death circumstances.

And just to be honest with you, I would not mind being in the .001% if 99.999% of the rest of those who support abortion for convenience.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, and in those case, would you be in favor of saving the mothers life or let her die because you do not believe in abortions? The ones you said were rare my family dealt with, except for Placenta previa.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, if your family dealt with them, you have my sympathy. But they are still rare.

Paula Flinn

It is wrong to label people as “not prayerful” or “full of hate” because they don’t inflict their beliefs on others. That is being judgmental.

Carlos Ponce

Paula, your opinion does not follow scripture. As Christians we are obligated to spread the Good News. Are we inflicting our beliefs on others? If you think so, remember Jesus gave us that commission. Anyone who claims to be Catholic and expresses beliefs not in harmony with the Church is misleading Jesus' flock. If you don't like the Church's teachings, don't proclaim yourself "holier than thou" as Nancy Pelosi has. From her actions it is apparent she has mixed in human secularism with Christianity.

Charles Douglas

"Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter." ......Matthew 7:21. This should scare the ×÷$# Out of millions of individuals who serve their own interests, and their own self made God's, instead of THE GOD! GOD knows a heart weather it loves him or pretending to love him. "......He knows the secrets of the hearts" Psalms 44:21.

Charles Douglas

I will add this FREE, no charge! Lying to another man won't help a bit, because no man can lie to GOD! He know what an individual will be thinking five years from now at 11am on the First Wednesday of JULY! I rest my case Your Honor!

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