(38) comments Back to story

Robert Braeking

Case count is unimportant! It is the body count that is important and that is going down. (Old Viet Nam War Correspondence reference).

The reason that all the 'officials' are using case count is that it is more alarming but the demographics of these new cases indicates that they are over 99% likely to recover. The Tyrants use the numbers that justify their tyranny.

Bailey Jones

Truth is the first casualty of war, I suppose. The body count isn't going down. In the past 11 days the county death toll has risen from 40 to 54, an increase of 35%. Houston is seeing record daily death counts. The death rate for Texas has doubled in the last week. The national daily death toll, which had been falling since April, has stopped falling.

Robert Braeking

Baily, Figures don't lie but liars figure. Even when you consider an increase from 40 to 54, as a percentage of the known infections or as a percentage of the population it is not a significant increase. That went from 0.0000114% to 0.0000154% based on population of Galvestonistan County. Not scientifically significant enough to take any draconian measures. While every life is precious, the sooner we allow the virus to sweep the county, the sooner we can reduce the number of infected persons per capita as most recover while developing immunity. Immune persons are not carriers as their bodies immediately eradicate any ingested virus. Those who are vulnerable should still take precautions but the rest of the population should resume activities as normal.

Jim Forsythe

Robert, if we do not decrease the numbers of new cases, you can look for us to go back into another economic lockdown. It's up to all of us to take the simple steps, so this does not happen. Gov. Greg Abbott expects things to get worse.

AUSTIN, Texas (KTRK) -- With Texas continuing to break records for new coronavirus deaths and hospitalizations this week, Gov. Greg Abbott reiterated Friday afternoon that things will continue to get worse. And if people keep flouting his new statewide mask mandate, he said, the next step could be another economic lockdown.

"Things will get worse, and let me explain why," he told KLBK TV in Lubbock. "The deaths that we're seeing announced today and yesterday - which are now over 100 - those are people who likely contracted COVID-19 in late May.

Bailey Jones

Case count is unimportant! Look at the body count. Also, don't look at the body count! Also, look at the body count as a percentage of case counts - which are unimportant! lol.

You said that the body count was going down. It is not. It is going up. Facts don't lie - they just tell you what you don't want to hear.

Carlos Ponce

So when the death count went from 1 to 2: "DEATH COUNT DOUBLES!, INCREASES 100%!!!!"

Bailey Jones

Hey, that's pretty good, Carlos. Now, here's an exercise for you. If you have one death in the US on February 29, and that doubles to 2 on March 1, how often does it have to double before you reach 131,072 dead on July 4th? I'll do the math for you - about once a week, for 17 weeks. Which is exactly why a relatively small number of deaths is worthy of note.

Carlos Ponce

Why are you so happy over the death of 131,072?

Robert Braeking

Baily, Actually, you are wrong. In the United States the death count per day was 2701 on May 6. On July 11 it was 729. Seems to me that 729 is about two thirds less than 2701.

Bill Broussard

Mr Henry. I was tested last Friday and as of today 8 days later, no results. I’m pretty sure the county testing program has a hole in the bottom of its boat.

Ted Gillis

Exactly Bill. That has been my gripe all along.

We need instantaneous results, just like the tests that are used at the White House.

8 days! That’s along time. Who knows who you could have been out there sharing masks with in the last 8 days.

Jim Forsythe

Why is there a delay in getting results for most. If you are in a group that is critical to get the results, such as healthcare workers, patients in hospitals, you will go to the front of the line. The rest will have to wait. Also availability of supplies to do the testing, causes delays.

"The company has prioritized tests for patients in hospitals and acute surgery and healthcare workers with symptoms. But with significant increases in testing demand and constraints in the availability of supplies and equipment, the average time to deliver results may now has increased," for non-hospital patients, LabCorp said Wednesday. "

The number of rest have increased so the wait has increased. In hotspots such we are in, wait time also increases to a week or more.

The number of daily tests reached an all-time high of more than 719,000 on July 3 and averaged nearly 640,000 each day this past week, according to data from the COVID Tracking Project.

From Florida to California, large and small labs running 24/7 can’t process samples quickly enough from millions of Americans tested every week. That means COVID-19 test results are delayed a week or longer in hotspot communities, undercutting public health efforts to track, isolate and prevent spread.

Bill Broussard

I’m sorry Jim. I heard our president say “the testing is going very well” and of course Mark Henry says our county is robust. Meanwhile Robert is running around trying to find a way to get infected so he can be liberated. Not sure where you get your information from since these three seem to know what it’s all about......really.😊

Bill Broussard

Ted. 11 days as of today. Absurd and I just read a wall street journal article that said the US resting czar said any fault with testing is clearly the state or county’s fault. How many politicians fit under a bus Mr Henry?

Robert Braeking

Big Jim, That is exactly what the tyrants want you to believe. New cases are exactly what is needed among the 99% who will recover without incident. That will increase the pool of immune and reduce the chances of infection for the whole population. As long as hospitals can handle the odd severe case, all should be open.

That is also the problem with healthy people taking the flu shot. No herd immunity.

Coronavirus does not even get in to the top ten. https://www.mdlinx.com/article/top-10-causes-of-death-in-the-us-in-2020/MNpEowpA8DXKBUNcbmkpY

Bill Broussard

Robert. I find myself a bit reluctant to buy your theory of the case but it does sound reasonable. If you have recovered from Covid yourself it might be more believable. If you’ve not contracted the virus, please say something about the steps your taking to see that you do and please keep us briefed once you do

If you need an idea, try mailing a package at the Bob Lyons USPS station. This morning the line was from the desk inside out the side door and curved in front of the station well into the parking lot. People were not six feet apart, no masks until they got inside and a gentleman two people ahead was talking quite loud in his cell phone with no mask. It looked like a sure thing to me so give it a try. But if not, what are you doing to get Covid and get it over with??

Jim Forsythe

Robert, if we do not decrease the numbers of new cases, you can look for us to go back into another economic lockdown.

Gov. Greg Abbott has said this, and if we do not reduce the numbers, you will have more to complain about.

Robert Braeking

Nationwide in 2020 Accidents accounted for 48 per 100,000 deaths nationwide. Coronavirus is only 15 per 100,000 in Galvestonistan. The death rate overall in the Peoples Republic of The United States is 41 per 100,000.

Bill Broussard

I repeat, have you been infected Robert and if not, what plans do you have to get infected so you can contribute to your herd immunity theory?

Robert Braeking

Bill, You are missing the point. If a person is infected he develops immunity and is no longer a carrier. If a person has not been infected he could be a carrier and not know it. Keeping healthy people from being infected is prolonging the agony. Fewer carriers translates to fewer chances for infection for EVERYBODY. We cannot afford to wait for a vaccine, generally. But if you are vulnerable you had better wait.

Jim Forsythe

Robert, if you want to be one of the herd, you better hope you are lucky. To achieve herd immunity, 5 to10 million, in USA would have to die. This is if one can not get infected more than one time and the antibodies do not disappear after a short time. If a vaccine is developed for use by all, numbers will change.

So, do you feel lucky?

Approximately 2.74 million Americans have tested positive for the coronavirus, over 130,000 of which have died (case fatality of 4.74%). By contrast, the case fatality of the flu in the U.S. is roughly 0.1%.

Absent the existence of a COVID-19 vaccine, any reasonable extrapolation of the data -- even at half the current case fatality rate, means we will see a seven-figure body count that exceeds 5 million deaths before we can attain herd immunity.

Dr. Adams further reiterated Dr. Fauci's concerns that antibodies appear to be limited in robustness, so it is unknown how significant or effective acquired immunity to COVID-19 may be. While it's still unclear whether or not a person can get infected with COVID-19 more than once, the limited durability of immuno-protective IgG antibodies may suggest an answer the world does not want to hear.

Bill Broussard

Thanks Jim. I’m willing to wait a bit to see if Robert is willing to put his lungs where his mouth is. At least as long as it takes for our high school teacher, Carlos, to add one plus one two times in a row

With 54 dead and over 300 new cases in county, I find the bravado and poor humor disgusting not to mention the editorial itself pretending a lot is getting done......while it’s much too late for pretense or con- jobs

Robert Braeking

Bill, I am one of the people in the vulnerable group. I was speaking in macro terms. The figures indicate that, although the infection rate is up, the death rate is declining. The reason for the economic shut down was to slow the infection rate in order to get the medical community geared up for this new virus. Treatment protocols have been developed. Those infected will be sick for a week or so and get over it. Many will not even develop symptoms. I recall the 1968 flu pandemic. I don't recall all these tyrannical measures to combat it. It killed 100,000 people in the United States and a vaccine was not developed until after the pandemic had peaked. The population of the US at the time was 200 million. Do the math.

Another shut down would cause far more hardship and death than you can imagine. There is no reason to slow down the spread of The Covid now. I wear a mask when it is appropriate and I don't need Big Brother's hall monitors following me around with threats of $250 fines.

Chuck DiFalco

"Gov. Greg Abbott ... said the next step could be another economic lockdown."

We here in the USA are already more than 3 months into lockdowns. Texas is among the states that continue to be under partial lockdown. All this means is that we are flirting with Great Depression 2.0. If governors’ and mayors’ shortsighted lockdown decisions caused that to happen, no longer is it a people’s lives versus money issue. It is a people’s lives vs. many more people’s lives, the many more having their lives cut short due to widespread, chronic, irreversible poverty NOT due to cornavirus. By that I mean half of America’s population with inadequate nutrition, shelter, medical care, employment opportunities, educational opportunities, and personal safety for 10 years or more, with the majority of the rest of the population trying desperately from falling into that trap. Then comes the inevitable regional or global war. And I’m sure the Depression 2.0 deniers will be even louder than the science deniers.

Jim Forsythe

It's up to everyone if we go back into lockdown. It is not difficult to do what is needed. Many business are depending on us to do the right thing.

If we do not change, and start wearing our mask, the Governor said that he would take the next step.

Chuck DiFalco

"It's up to everyone if we go back into lockdown." No, Mr. Forsythe, that's not true. That authority, in Texas, lies solely with the governor. There is no vote. The decision making power is all that matters.

Jim Forsythe

All of us have the power to keep it from happening, by wearing our mask.

Carlos Ponce

And wear it Jim will long after this is over. He might have the flu!

Jim Forsythe

No one but you are talking about the flu. Mask are required at this time.

Carlos Ponce

So is Jim saying the flu is not deadly?

Chuck DiFalco

"All of us have the power to keep it [lockdown] from happening, by wearing our mask"

Mr. Forsythe, you're either naive, or being willfully ignorant and pedantic. In confined public spaces, wearing masks now is like covering your mouth while sneezing was last year - it's something everyone should do out of courtesy and compassion. But scarily, that (and bigger picture considerations) will have little impact on the decision that only one person will make in Texas. The governor has shown his true colors by being an extremely political operator, lurching from one extreme to another during this pandemic. So the governor's near future decision to lockdown more or not won't be based on mask wearing or lack thereof. Just read about the political jockeying by both Democrats and Republicans in the U.S. Senate deciding whether to pass the Smoot-Hawley tariff bill in 1930, and President Hoover's decision to go along with it. BTW, that bill was part of a 1-2-3 policy punch that caused the Great Depression.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos: The headline reads, County is working toward a unified COVID-19 response.

You are the only one talking about the flu.

At this time, wear your mask.

Jim Forsythe

Mr. DiFalco, you may not want to wear a mask, but some places will refuse to serve you if you are not wearing a mask.

Why, because it is a what is required and some cities will fine the business for each person not wearing one.

Most schools are going to require students to wear mask or the student will not be able to attended, the exception may be the younger ones.

At this time the Houston area is one of the major hotspot in the USA.

If you think anyone in charge is going to say, please do not wear your mask, you will have a long wait.

If you do not agree with the Medical professionals that your right.

But until this is over , the people in charge will make the rules, which could become more restrictive.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, during the flu season wear your mask.

Chuck DiFalco

"Mr. DiFalco, you may not want to wear a mask"

Mr. Forsythe, why do you think I don't want to wear a mask? Because you automatically assume, since I'm debating you about lockdowns, that I must be somehow anti-mask? Well, wrong assumption. I wear a mask in indoor public places. Too many people are hyper-focused on masks to the exclusion of other issues related to the pandemic.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos: The headline reads, County is working toward a unified COVID-19 response.

You are the only one talking about the flu.

At this time, wear your mask.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, during the flu season wear your mask.

George Welsh

Interesting video on how Covid19 data is collected. It's no wonder why we are having a spike in cases and suddenly becoming a hot spot.

https://youtu.be/xnVLWOZfQlU

Welcome to the discussion.

Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language.
PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
Don't Threaten. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated.
Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything.
Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person.
Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts.
Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.

Thank you for reading!

Please log in, or sign up for a new account and purchase a subscription to read or post comments.