I’m puzzled. Why should the government be shut down, thus depriving the American people of services, when Trump has insisted from the very beginning that Mexico was going to pay for this stupid wall?

Many times he has said this, insisting that the American taxpayer would not pay a cent because he, the great dealmaker, was going to make Mexico pay. Perhaps at his next pep rally it would be nice if a member of the audience would ask this question of their president. The answer would probably be a master class in evasion, obfuscation and just plain lies.

But Trump doesn't have the legal or Constitutional right to shut down the government, fortunately. He also lacks knowledge of democratic governance, has no desire for public service and dictates with the cudgels of mercurial temper, unpredictability, lying, firing, brutal words and ideas, inflexibility and unrelenting nagging until he gets his own way.

His unfitness to govern is shown by decisions that have harmed average Americans. These include: withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord and the Iranian Nuclear Accord, embracing Russia and criticizing U.S. allies, threats to withdraw from NATO, blow up North Korea, blow up Iran, laying tariffs, giving a 21 percent to 23 percent tax reduction for the wealthy while the poor and middle class pay higher taxes and government services are cut, and his desire to destroy our environment for fossil fuel barons.

Now he wants to shut down the government for his wall? That means he, Congress, the cabinet, civil service workers, educators, firefighters and EMTs would not be paid, Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security would go unfunded, and people would die. Nobody wants the wall — even if they are racist. It's a lot of money to spend for an ineffective vanity project. Americans need that money for U.S. needs. Like Flint water for example! It’s still contaminated, Mr. President!

Let's cancel his parade, too, while we're at it. Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. They're not; and passing his campaign promise onto American shoulders is cowardly. He should concede he lost the point and move on.

If a parent behaved toward a child the way this president does to the country, the environment, the public's health and welfare, asylum seekers, his ever-growing list of "enemies," our allies, the opposition and even his own party, that child would be removed from home.

Because we have no one to perform that act, given an enabling Republican-dominated Congress, our only choice is to work for the removal of that majority. Then, perhaps, we can work to remove the perpetrator and his dreadful administration.

Ed Sullivan lives in Galveston.

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Carlos Ponce

Through renegotiation of trade agreements Mexico will eventually pay for the wall. But funding by law still has to go through Congress. And in "shutdowns" most of government keeps going. In previous shutdowns over 80% of government operations kept going. Government workers affected got a day or so off but were compensated as if it never happened. Do a web search, Ed. Your writings are more anti-Trump rantings than facts.

Emile Pope

What garbage. trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall just as he's lied about practically everything else.

Carlos Ponce

As usual from Emile, all blather but no substance. But that's Emile!

Van Jones

It's truly baffling that Trump's supporters don't see he's a liar and a con. Or maybe they see it but are too invested to admit they fell for it...

Carlos Ponce

It's not baffling why Trump haters don't see the lies they spread are easily dis-proven. Their hatred gets in the way of objectivity.

Emile Pope

And if Mexico is going to pay for the wall, then why does it have to be approved by Congress. trump wants the American people to pay for the wall.

Carlos Ponce

"why does it have to be approved by Congress" All spending measures must start in the House of Representatives then approved by both houses. You must have been absent when that came up in junior high history.

Emile Pope

I thought Mexico was going to pay for the wall. Does Mexico need congressional approval from this country to spend money? trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall and that's not in dispute.

Carlos Ponce

Emile, the laws on the books will be followed. Congress has to approve of all spending measures. Mexico will not not "write a check" for the wall but will still pay for it in the long run. Right now NAFTA does not work in the US's favor. Once it is renegotiated, the dinero will roll in.

Emile Pope

It appears that you also don’t understand how trade agreements work...

Carlos Ponce

It appears that Emile doesn’t understand how trade agreements work...
More blather, no real substance as usual. That' Emile!

Carol Dean

"I am puzzled" as to why Ed doesn't understand the internal working of our government!

Robert Braeking

I'm sorry Ed, but because Congress has been derelict in its duty by not passing a budget since 2006, every few months they must pass a continuing resolution to keep America funded. All President Trump has to do to 'shut down' the government is not to sign the next one if it does not contain funding for border protection. Mr. Ponce is right but you think that President Trump was talking about direct payment. Your supporting evidence for Mr. Trump's 'unfitness to govern' is based on all the things that President Trump has done right. We are tired of the weak, milquetoast, ineffective, incompetent, and corrupt politicians who have been on a path of making this, the greatest country on earth, just another one of the also-rans.

Gary Scoggin

Funny, this notion of Mexico paying through better trade agreements, etc. never emerged until after the campaign when his apologists had to come up with some wild version of the truth that didn’t make this yet just another empty campaign promise.

George Croix

Got another 6 1/2 years Gary.
Rome wasn't built in a day.
Ya'll gave the last guy a free pass for 8 years to never once come up with a reason for that Nobel being awarded for 'potential'.....[beam][beam][beam]
You remember him, the 'flexible' race baiter standing behind the red line, bowing to the Saudi king.....

Gary Scoggin

Ya’ll?

Brian Tamney

Actually he did say that on the campaign trail if you had listened.

Emile Pope

Source?

Carlos Ponce

June 28, 2015
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/06/28/donald-trump-mexico-immigration-wall-intv-tapper-sotu.cnn
Jake Tapper: You're talking about building a wall and making Mexico pay for it.
Donald Trump: Yeah.
Tapper: How exactly are you going to get Mexico to pay for it?
Trump: The way....Mexico has not treated us well. Mexico treats us as though we are stupid people which of course our leaders are. I don't blame Mexico. China is even worse.
Tapper: But how do you force a country to build a wall?
Trump: You force them because we give Mexico a fortune. Mexico makes a fortune because of us. A wall is a tiny little peanut compared to the kind of money....
Tapper: So you would cut off business or impose tariffs unless they built the wall.
Trump: We would do something very severe unless they contributed or gave us the money to build the wall. I'd build it, I'd build it very nicely. I'm very good at building.

Emile Pope

In the sweet bye and bye....

Carlos Ponce

There's plenty more, Emile. But I selected a Liberal-friendly web site (CNN) just for you. [beam]

Emile Pope

"We would do something very severe unless they contributed or gave us the money to build the wall. I'd build it, I'd build it very nicely. I'm very good at building"...They have not contributed, they haven't given money to build the wall. Seems trump is very good at lying...

Carlos Ponce

NAFTA is being renegotiated. US will come out ahead of where we started in January 2017. Be patent Emile.

Emile Pope

You be patient. I have no desire or obligation to do so. trump lied about who would pay for the wall and that's all that needs to be said. Buy the snake oil if you like but don't expect others to follow suit...

Carlos Ponce

Patience is a virtue. And Mexico will pay for the wall.

Carlos Ponce

WAPO lists 11 promises Obama kept, 12 he compromised on and 17 he did not fulfill.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/obama-promises/
Emile would call Obama a LIAR since he did not do as promised on all 40 promises. It is still premature to call Trump a liar since he's only into year two of his first term. Still over six years left to carry through. Be patient!

Jim Forsythe

May 5, 2015
Congress passed a full budget for the first time in years, laying out a road map for domestic spending cuts
The budget cleared the Senate on a 51-48 vote Tuesday afternoon, after passing in the House last week.
“Democrats and Republicans came together to set up a responsible, long-term budget process, and what we now see is a budget that reflects our values, that grows our economy, creates jobs, keeps America safe,” he said in the Oval Office.
Obama signed the bipartisan bill just one day before the Nov. 3. deadline after which the nation would have risked default on its debt if Congress did not renew its borrowing authority.

What happened this year.
Feb. 9, 2018
The House has narrowly passed a sweeping bipartisan budget accord, ending an hours-long government shutdown and clearing a path for huge spending increases for both the Pentagon and domestic programs. The Senate passed the measure earlier Friday.

George Croix

Jim, you no doubt recall that May, 2015, first timer was in the 7th year of that Presidency.......

Jim Forsythe

The government can stays open if Congress manages to overcome Trump's veto of a spending bill without wall funds.
This would be difficult for Republican leaders to achieve, but not impossible. Say Republicans pass a spending bill without wall funding and Trump vetoes it. If McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., can convince two-thirds of each of their chambers that keeping the government open is more important than funding the border wall, they could overcome the veto and keep the government open.

George Croix

[thumbup]
A Socialist also-ran...but then, that's redundant....

George Croix

Yet, just a few short months ago, the Minority Leader of the Senate shutdown the government for a couple days to favor illegal aliens over American citizens.....
Odd...that was left out....

My favorite fantasy part is the one where the 'poor and middle class pay higher taxes'....that and the 'fossil fuel barons'.
Here's a clue:
If you do any productive work at all you got a tax cut. It's right there on your paycheck, not in the DNC talking points.
Income taxes are percentage based, so the more you make, the higher your cut, as it should be...if it's 'fair' to take more from people who make more, then it's only fair when returned, too...
As for the 'fossil fule barons'....such sulliness pretty much excludes any reason to pay any attention to any other statements from the same source.
Here's an even bigger clue:
You CANNOT LIVE without the 'fossil fuel barons' in today's world.
Not one single thing you do or interact with on a daily basis is possible without at some point having some connection with fossil fuels and products...you'd even starve to death without daily 18 wheeler diesel truck deliveries to grocery stores.
If you moved to the backwoods, stripped naked, and sharpened sticks with a flint knife to dig garden rows with, the seed you planted was delivered by fossil fuel powered vehicles.....
You might as well decry the 'oxygen barons'.....

"Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise'....."
I'd say better to move away from that place.....

Emile Pope

Wrong. The tax cuts for the wealthy were made permanent.

Carlos Ponce

Emile, no tax cut is permanent. It depends on who is in Congress and who is president. Democrats have already vowed to remove all tax cuts. Elect them and WHOOSH - even Emile's tax cut is GONE!

Gary Miller

Building the wall may not be important enough for some. Shutting down the government is important enough to do it more often. Government doesn't shut down, only the unneeded and useless services shut down. All essential services keep running as normal. Government has enough daily income to not miss a day. During a (shutdown ?) unneeded and useless agencies/bureaucracies can be identified for being deleted. A short shutdown, two week at least, could be so valuable the founders should have included them in the constitution.

Gary Scoggin

Gary... have you dealt with the Federal Government much? Have you done it for a living? Have you tried doing it during a shut down?

Carlos Ponce

What DOES shut down?
"Essential staff at top level agencies would continue working, but most federal employees whose jobs aren’t vital would likely be sent home," [Marc] Goldwein said. Marc Goldwein is senior policy director of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget.
For example, those who work at national parks, monuments and museums would be told to go home.
"It doesn’t feel awesome to be told you’re not an essential employee. It's a little demoralizing to go home because you’re not important," Goldwein added.
In the 2013 shutdown, roughly 850,000 employees were furloughed per day, according to the Office of Management and Budget.
The president, presidential appointees and members of Congress are exempt. The Postal Service, the TSA and Air Traffic Control will also continue business as usual.
Americans will still be able to get their Social Security and Medicare benefits and food stamps. However, people expecting VA benefits, unemployment benefits, farm subsidies and tax refunds may experience delays.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/09/what-happens-during-government-shutdown-7-things-should-know.html

Gary Scoggin

As an example, I was once trying to get air permitting done on a refinery expansion. We were up against a deadline when the shut down hit. Fortunately we were able to recover but this is one example of a business disruption. There are thousands of examples of these types of things every time this happens. I’ve got more personal examples but I won’t bore you with them.

Carlos Ponce

Sounds more like an inconvenience since the work was merely postponed and you got the job done. Tantamount to not getting to work as scheduled due to an accident. Or a flight postponed due to weather. In the long run - you accomplished your goal.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos I apologize for not properly conveying the urgency of the situation. That said, due to my lack of a fuller description, you have no idea what happened or the disruption it caused. But not knowing what we are talking about rarely stops any of us here, does it?

Carlos Ponce

"Fortunately we were able to recover" tells me all I needed to know.

George Croix

Or, assuming others don't......

George Croix

ps:
The 'effects of the shutdown' are all that can be dredged or made up when about 80% plus of the government still remains on the job, as it always does, critical services are unaffected, as they always are, and only the most non-critical areas are 'shutdown', which makes one wonder why we don't do away with some or all of that 20%.....
The biggest impact is the hyperventilation of whichever Party is on the opposing side when it 'shut's down'...without really doing so in full......

Jarvis Buckley

Same old Haters, should be ignored.
These Anti President Trump articles
getting boring as our economy soars.

Kelly Naschke

Gotta agree with Jarvis. It’s got to suck to identify with a party (democrat) that wants our president to fail....despite the fact that that means America fails. How do guys like the original commentator, Emile, and Jim NOT recognize the unemployment numbers...economic growth numbers, defeat of ISIS...etc?? What a bunch of clowns...all you guys had was Russia, Russia, Russia....and all that did was uncover Democrats exploitation and politicization of the FBI and DOJ. How do you know when a Democrat lies???? His mouth is moving. Keep it up clowns...you are like rats on a shinking ship.

Jim Forsythe

As I belong to the Clowns International and a Honorary Member of the World Clown Association (WCA) ,I thank you for recognizing me.
I'm sure you were behind Obama and Clinton when they were President.
A President failing does not mean the America fails. We have had many Presidents fail, and we are still here.
If you have a subject you would like to debate , we can.

The current U6 unemployment rate as of July is 7.5.
This is down from a high of 17.1 in April of 2010. This is in line with the continued decrease in rate, since April 2010.
http://portalseven.com/employment/unemployment_rate_u6.jsp
The U.S. added 15.9 million jobs under President Ronald Reagan and 22.9 million under President Bill Clinton if you look at how many Americans were employed in the last full month they were in office versus the January when they were sworn in.
Only 2.1 million jobs were added during Bush's full tenure.
11.3 million new jobs were created under President Obama.
With July's jobs report, employers have added a total of 1,074,000 jobs during Trump's first six full months in office.
That essentially matches the 1,084,000 jobs created during President Barack Obama's last six months in office. Both round to 1.1 million, and the 10,000 difference is well within the margin of error of the Labor Department estimate
Obama handed Trump an economy that was close to what economists consider full employment. The unemployment rate on Inauguration Day was 4.8% (U3 rate), and it has fallen since then, to 4.3% in July.

" defeat of ISIS" ? Not yet.
05/08/2018 18:27:10
Heavy fighting between ISIS and Iraqi Federal Police in village in Makhmur district between Erbil and Ninawa Provinces. Makhmur is disputed between Erbil and Ninawa Provinces.
9 hours ago - 32°53′N 36°46′E
South Syria: around 200 reconciled Rebels reportedly reached E. Suweida for upcoming Offensive vs ISIS. They are/were part of Shabab Sunnah (E. Daraa) and Desert Commando Brigade (E. Qalamoun).
10 hours ago ISIS commander denounces "fake news"
a day ago
ISIS executed the 1st prisoner abducted 10 days ago during assault on E. Suweida amidst stalling negotiations.
2 days ago
Afghanistan: ISIS claims IED killing 5 US soldiers at #Bagram in #Parwan Province . Full story at https://isis.liveuamap.com/en/2018/3-august-russian-citizen-suspected-in-funding-of-isis-was

Carlos Ponce

Jim, look at the job participation rate under Obama. Not good.
Also the "jobs created" during the Obama years were current jobs that were split into two jobs so that they would not have to provide Obamacare to full time workers. Less weekly hours = the requirement to provide healthcare not mandated.

Jim Forsythe

Full-time employees
Full time employees have increased at a study rate since 2010, about 2 million workers a year, except for 2011 which increased about three quarters of a million workers and 2017 which had a loss of about one half Million workers. It has rebound to get on track for 2018.
August‎ ‎7‎, ‎2015
Friday's labor-market report showed that the number of full-time U.S. jobs as a share of total employment rose to 81.7 percent, the highest level since November 2008.
Number of full-time employees in the United States in Millions
2009 112.63, 2010 111.71, 2011 112.54, 2012 114.81 ,2013 116.31,
2014 118.72, 2015 121.49, 2016 123.76, 2017 125.97, 2018 125. 44 to June 2018 129.94 Million
The number of full time jobs increased each year after 2010, except for 2017.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/192356/number-of-full-time-employees-in-the-usa-since-1990/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-08-07/full-time-jobs-in-the-u-s-just-made-a-comeback


Carlos Ponce

What is a "full-time job"? According to your staisa.com website it is a job where you work 30 or more hours.
"Businesses eliminated hundreds of thousands of full-time jobs to avoid Obamacare mandate"
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/businesses-eliminated-hundreds-of-thousands-of-full-time-jobs-to-avoid-obamacare-mandate-2017-11-24
Take a regular job, cut it into two and the unemployment rate drops, "jobs created" go up BUT you get less than 30 hours and no insurance and other perks.

Randy Chapman

Just another lefty screaming that the sky is falling...

Carol Dean

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

Mike Meador

Pope.......[thumbdown][yawn][

Michael Byrd

Wow Ed, that's a lot of bilge gas for one orifice.

Carol Dean

Emile, doesn't "get it" and never will. When one fails to understand and accept the facts, it's just a waste of time trying to educate an "unwilling" individual. This for sure would not be the first or last time our government was shutdown!

George Croix

Trolls 'get it'. They just like to go squinty-eyed asking for sources they never accept...or, for that matter, ever give.....
Good sources for bait, though......[beam]

Van Jones

Thanks Mr Sullivan, I agree!

George Croix

I'm glad to see that the GDN headline writer can't spell any better than I do, IF, of course, he/she meant 'whit', the smallest of particles, versus wit, something that works sometimes......[wink]

Speaking of whits, though, less than one, or none, was evidently what our ex-Pres. cared about minority employment, leaving with it worse than when he started, as opposed to our current Pres. with the lowest in records keeping history, in onu a year and a half...

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=you+tube+Obama+hows+he+gonna+do+that&guccounter=1#id=2&vid=d9be72d44af38075ba8f9442d3d51b98&action=click

The blind leading from behind........

George Croix

The greatest Presidential con of this century so far has been accepting a Nobel prize for what might be accomplished.....then not giving it back later.....

"How's he gonna do that....."
Too bad the Nobel folks didn't use that line before Obama did....
[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Jarvis Buckley

Question for GDN is Sullivan a member of the prominent Sullivan
family of Galveston Island?....just wondering..

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