In 1858, Abraham Lincoln said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently half slave and half free ... . You’ve got to be on one side or the other,” Lincoln contended.

“Progressive” policies have sought to upend the very unique architected foundations for freedom. The 2020 election furthered that split being riddled with compelling accusations of election fraud. Numerous polls found that 40 percent to 50 percent believe the results of the presidential race could’ve been decided by fraudulent means.

The evidence isn’t weak. An actuarial expert, who once led Texas’ insurance fraud department, assessed the possibility of significant vote switching by the Dominion election machines and Smartmatic software. Rather than challenge the findings, opponents dismissed what appears to be at least a 3 percent-plus vote shift to Biden.

An expert evaluating Arizona’s result stated the anomalies were so significant no one could honestly certify the results without significant investigation. Over-voting (where more vote than are registered) in only swing state Democratic cities raises even more questions, especially when these results were reported after other vote counts showed a significant lead by President Trump.

One swing state allegedly broke its election laws. An investigative group telephoned a statistical-sized group of Republicans in critical swing states asking, did you vote? It discovered hundreds of thousands didn’t vote yet records showed they did. A hundred thousand did vote, but their votes weren’t recorded.

A grassroots organization in Arizona canvassed several heavily Democratic areas in the Phoenix area asking the same types of questions based on voting records. It found 5 percent of the several thousand checked were fraudulent votes, some voters had moved out of state and hadn’t lived in the area for years, etc. Clearly someone else voted for them.

A Rasmussen 2020 survey focusing on major party platforms doesn’t breathe comfort into the coming firestorm either. Sixty percent believed Joe Biden would raise their taxes and opposed doing so. Seventy percent were opposed to Biden’s open borders policies and granting legalization to illegal aliens. Few supported the Biden “green new deal.” Packing to the Supreme Court was only supported by the ultra-left. Defunding of police departments garnered limited support. So, is it reasonable to assume that somehow the proponent of these policies was actually elected without getting help from outside sources?

Adding fuel to the fire- storm, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear Texas’ lawsuit against several states for failing to conduct lawful elections, even though almost half of the other states joined the Texas suit. Really disturbing is the unwillingness of courts to even consider the merits and allowing evidence to be presented. If our nation is to heal the court needs to hear the evidence and then to make an informed decision; not reject the concerns out-of-hand and nor allowing the case to be presented.

We support fair and lawfully conducted elections where voters can rely upon the outcome as being accurate. We hope you do as well.

Mark Mansius lives in Saint George, Utah; and Bill Sargent lives in Galveston.

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Jeff Patterson

Yes, the election was riddled with claims of election fraud. What it hasn’t been riddled with is proof of election fraud. The election results have been certified by the respective county election officials, and all 50 states, recounts were done and certified, the electoral college has voted, the results will be made official by Congress on January 6th and Biden will be sworn in on January 20th. Trump and his campaign had their day(s) in court, and were unable to prove any of the allegations raised. Regardless of how any of us feel personally about the outcome, it’s time to move on. Continuing to raise doubt by randomly quoting unnamed “experts” as proof is not helpful and is very disingenuous....it’s not the volume of the unproven anecdotes that matters, it’s their validity. If you have legitimate proof, please refer it to the proper legal/investigative authorities.... I don’t think they’re going to be perusing the editorials of the Galveston Daily News looking for it.

Bailey Jones

[thumbup] Well said. It astounds me that anyone who witnessed Trump's fake claims of voting fraud in 2016 (proved to be fake by his own special commission) can't see the exact same thing happening again in 2020. In 2016 when he was behind in the polls he announced that "the system is rigged", and when he lost the popular vote, he invented millions of fraudulent illegal votes to explain his loss. There was no such thing. In 2020, when the polls were even worse, he declared again that "the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged", and after his trouncing, he invented, once again, millions of imaginary fraudulent votes.

Those who perpetuate this fiction are destroying our democracy. He's had 2 full months to present evidence of this massive fraud and has produced nothing.

Listen to the Georgia phone call - it's pathetic:

"Do you think it’s possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that’s what the rumor is."

"But they are shredding ballots, in my opinion, based on what I’ve heard."

"The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people."

"Oh this isn’t social media. This is Trump media."

Sorry, I only intended to give a [thumbup]. This stupidity is infuriating.

Carlos Ponce

"What it hasn’t been riddled with is proof of election fraud."

There is proof. Denying it is not going to make it go away.

Paul Sivon

The authors are the illness and they are carriers spreading it today. Heal yourself and stop your selective opinion polls and accusations that have been handled by our courts.

George Laiacona

Fortunately the intelligent voice of the people has been heard. Our democracy is still in place in our Republic. The naive voters will soon see they another TV celebrity is not the answer to running our country.

alvin sallee

Watch our President's supporters "supporting" these claims. Russia must be very happy. False unproven claims have flamed the rioters. Here is what you get, and I am watching Fox TV.

Carlos Ponce

Are they "Trump supporters"? Arrest them and do a background check before labeling.

Gary Scoggin

The fact that they came from a Trump rally, wore Trump gear, carried Trump flags and shouted Trump slogans were my clues.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin, this is an old tactic: disguise, infiltrate , destroy, discredit.

Their actions are not those of Trump supporters.

Anyone can buy Trump gear, MAGA hats, flags and shout Trump slogans to look the part. As the Bible states by their fruit ye shall know them. The typical Trump supporter is a family person, not young college aged men pictured.

I'm certain some real Trump supporters got caught up in the frenzy but then realized this is not them.

Arrest them, identify them do background checks before making an ASSumption.

Dan Freeman

Mr. MANSIUS & SARGENT Senator John Cornyn said it clearly: “President Trump’s legal team filed numerous lawsuits challenging the election outcome. But none of the legal arguments or evidence presented by the President’s legal team convinced the more than 50 state and federal courts that sat in judgment,”

“Every single lawsuit was eventually rejected, some on the merits, some on procedural grounds, both equally dispositive,” he continued. “These lawsuits were heard by well-respected jurists — many of whom were nominated by Trump himself.”

Trump is a loser and now is inciting seditious riots in Washington. You gentlemen are supporting this insurrection against the US and its Constitution. Honor your oaths of office and oppose his actions and statements.

Carlos Ponce

Each case was met with a DENIAL of request for an evidentiary hearing.

Gary Scoggin

Because they didn’t present enough evidence in their filing to justify one. You don’t automatically get a hearing every time you file a suit. You have to show it’s credible. Not one single time did they convince a judge of that. We’re ALL these judges in cahoots?

Carlos Ponce

The evidence was credible. The judges refused to see it.

Gary Scoggin

Yes, dear.

Paula Flinn

I agree with Dan Freeman. Trump is a mentally disturbed narcissistic sociopath and a pathological liar. He lost this election. Voter fraud was spotty and sparse, and it was not prevalent enough to overturn the results. Otherwise, the judges would have heard those cases Giuliani brought to them.

Carlos Ponce

Wrong again, Paula.

Bailey Jones

Throngs of pro-Trump supporters burst through security barricades and stormed the U.S. Capitol, where they entered the Senate chamber and forced police to deploy tear gas inside.

Lawmakers, tweeting from inside, captured a terrifying scene, with many Democrats assailing Trump for provoking his supporters to attempt what some called a coup of the federal government.

Rep. Daniel Kildee (D-Mich.) tweeted - "I am in the House Chambers. We have been instructed to lie down on the floor and put on our gas masks. Chamber security and Capitol Police have their guns drawn as protesters bang on the front door of the chamber. This is not a protest. This is an attack on America."

Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) called it a “coup attempt.” He later reposted a Twitter message from Trump and said: “You are not protecting the country. Where is the DC guard? You are done and your legacy will be a disaster.”

-wapo

Carlos Ponce

Arrest them and get a background check before labeling.

Paula Flinn

They are identifying them from the photos. The head of Q-Anon has been identified.

Perhaps you remember the Executive Order Pres. Trump signed protecting Federal Buildings and the statues in them, that said vandalizing any of these Federal Buildings will carry a prison term of up to 10 years. Give them10 years in Federal Prison for breaking in, stealing, looting, and vandalizing the Capitol Building. They even took down the American Flag and put up the Trump flag. They marched the Confederate flag through the Capitol, too.

Patricia Gray

Why on God's green earth is the GCDN publishing canned editorials from the likes of Muckrack?

Jim Forsythe

On social media sites requested by the far-right, such as Gab and Parler, directions on which streets to take to avoid the police and which tools to bring to help pry open doors were exchanged in comments. At least a dozen people posted about carrying guns into the halls of Congress.

Calls for violence against members of Congress and for pro-Trump movements to retake the Capitol building have been circulating online for months. Bolstered by Mr. Trump, who has courted fringe movements like QAnon and the Proud Boys, groups have openly organized on social media networks and recruited others to their cause.

At 2:24 p.m., after Mr. Trump tweeted that Mr. Pence “didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done,” dozens of messages on Gab called for those inside the Capitol building to hunt down the vice president. In videos uploaded to the channel, protesters could be heard chanting “Where is Pence?”

Jim Forsythe

Pence should consider invoking 25th Amendment to remove Trump.

One of President Donald Trump's major business supporters is calling on Vice President Mike Pence to consider launching a constitutional process that could result in the president's removal from office. National Association of Manufacturers President and CEO Jay Timmons said Pence should "seriously consider working with the Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment to preserve democracy."

Carlos Ponce

Pence is too smart to fall for this nonsense. Jay Timmons is just kissing up to Democrats.

Gary Scoggin

He should be. They now control the Presidency and both houses of Congress.

Carlos Ponce

"the presidency"? Wait for it.

Ted Gillis

The Daily News is publishing this guy Muckrack’s article Patty, because they got taken to task for running a feature on local drag queens last week by a handful of angry readers. They’re just trying to show us how fair they are now.

Bailey Jones

It's time to invoke the 25th Amendment. #worstpresidentever has fomented insurrection against the democratic institutions of our nation, and defiled our Capitol. There is no excuse, there is no counter-narrative, there are no alternative facts. We all saw it unfold live on TV.

Ted Cruz must resign, along with every other senator and representative who has promulgated the heinous lies of #worldsbiggestloser for their own petty political purposes.

Enough is enough. This cannot stand.

It's time for all Americans to decide - right now, in this moment - are you a patriotic American or the idiotic tool of a traitorous demagogue? There is only one correct answer to this question.

Gary Scoggin

It’s definitely time to primary Randy Weber.

Carlos Ponce

Gary Scoggin, Randy has been primaried in the past. If there's a better candidate Conservatives will listen. But he's a hard act to beat.

Carlos Ponce

Not going to happen, Bailey.

Bailey Jones

Carlos, for weeks you've been calling for exactly what happened today - an extra-constitutional intervention in the free exercise of democracy.

"Just wait and see," you said.

"You're going to be so surprised," you said.

"Sit back and watch God work," you said.

Well, we watched today. We watched as thousands of people just like you, with the same fanatical devotion to this pathetic demagogue and the same blasphemous belief that God Almighty sent him into our midst as some perversion of a savior, rampaged through our nation's Capitol, breaking down doors, smashing windows, vandalizing offices - all for the expressed purpose of subverting the will of the American people.

I would like to believe that you possess the simple decency to remove yourself from this forum.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, for weeks you've been calling for exactly what happened today" No. God's hand is not in this. God will act later.

Do NOT insert your offensive comments into what I've written. You are WAY out line.

Jeff Patterson

Unfortunately decency and self awareness are not qualities that Carlos possesses....he is all of the things that he professes to be so against. And when you challenge him he wraps himself up in his self righteousness and purports to speak for “his” god. I don’t think the God I know looks very kindly on stuff like that.

Carlos Ponce

Forgive Jeff Patterson, Father for he's been brainwashed by the Liberal Left.

Jeff Patterson

Ok, so let me see if I get this..........to steal the presidential election, all it took was the coordination and cooperation of hundreds, if not thousands, of election officials and elected leaders across at least 6 states, and maybe more, some of whom I assume are Republican, dozens of state and federal judges, including the Supreme Court, and now Congress, and the VP, and this was aided/abetted by, in no particular order, Big Tech, the MSM, the DOJ, FBI, DHS, and I assume most all of the other alphabet agencies in the federal government, those same agencies in multiple states, the CCP, George Soros, Venezuela, Dominion Voting Systems, Smartmatic, and Hugo Chavez (may he RIP). And doing all of this with a Republican controlled administration and Senate, and a 6-3 conservative majority on the Supreme Court. I mean, it is so stunningly simple I'm shocked that someone didn't think of doing it sooner..........

Gary Scoggin

I have quite the admiration for the folks that pulled this off. I have heard that they learned from the ones who orchestrated the fake landings on the moon.

Carlos Ponce

Moon landings were real and so was the theft of the 2020 Presidential election.

Bailey Jones

If your conspiracies aren't constrained by reality why not go big?

Jeff Patterson

I guess so....go big, or go home

Carlos Ponce

Jeff Patterson, just six counties to steal the election.

Jeff Patterson

Well, that complicates things a bit then.........much harder to figure out before the election which six counties to target. Hmmm, they must have had inside information.........maybe Hugo from beyond the grave? Or just targeted all counties, just in case?

Carlos Ponce

Not hard at all, Jeff. But maybe it's beyond you.[whistling]

Jeff Patterson

Gosh, something so simple and obvious should be also so simple and obvious to discover and prosecute..... somebody should take that obvious evidence to the state election officials, the appropriate investigatory bodies, and the courts. Oh wait, that’s right, they did.....

Carlos Ponce

They did. They got the Planet of the Apes Tribunal.... Hear no evil, See no evil, speak no evil about Democrats. And there's a new one - an ape with crossed arms meaning either text, tweet, print or write no evil about Democrats. Which are you , Jeff. Don't worry, you may pick more than one.

Jeff Patterson

Yep, all those state and federal court judges just got together and decided gee, we’re just gonna ignore all the evidence that gets brought to us; oh, and they talked to the Supreme Court, and they decided to do that too. Gosh, who knew this presidential election stealing stuff was so simple.

Carlos Ponce

Jeff Patterson finally gets it.

Jeff Patterson

Yep, Big Foot explained it all to me..... the tooth fairy helped fill in the gaps. The Kraken was there too, but really didn’t seem to know what was going on.... kept muttering something about where’s my leash, where’s my leash...

Ted Gillis

They said Big Foot has been spotted peeking out from the edge of the earth, where he has been hanging on, wondering if it’s safe to come out yet.

Carlos Ponce

We assumed Big Foot was you, Ted Gillis.

Gary Scoggin

No, it’s Forsythe. Definitely Forsythe. 😁

Thomas Carpenter

This sure sounds idiotic now! All the lies exposed, Cadet Bonespurs hunkered in the White House without Twitter and a second impeachment pending.

Carlos Ponce

Thomas Carpenter, Donald Trump just Twittered on his POTUS Twitter account. Be sure to read it before the fascist Twitter people take it down.

Leonard Hale

Cult - a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

"a cult of personality surrounding the leaders"

Carlos Ponce

So Leonard is telling us the Democrats are a cult. Interesting.

Bill S.

Carlos, my hat is off to you Sir!! Thanks for your staunch stance when faced with the Demons. For all you supporters of the fraud, take note of interest rates, taxes, gasoline prices, and the Second Amendment Right you all have. I will take this opportunity to prognosticate, all of that will change for the worse, creating a disaster which is unrecoverable. History has proven over and over again, particularly when the people controlling the purse strings have no earthly idea how businesses run - because they are not business people - that not only the economy run off the rails, but foreign policy will bring us to fourth world recognition in short order. The last Democrat in office caused awful harm to both - (credit rating, in case you have forgotten). Several thoughts come to mind. In Genesis, God told Abraham that he will praise those who praise you and curse those who curse you. Whenever we have turned our backs on Israel, we have done poorly. When we have supported them, we have done well. One of the things I learned early in life is that the scales always balance - always!

Carlos Ponce

I'm in good company. The Liberals are panicking! Trying to force President Trump out of office with talk of Amendment 25 and Articles of Impeachment, banning him from Twitter, talk of removing Congressmen from office. They're afraid.

But in the end, truth will find a way and the corrupt Liberals will be taken care of.

Thomas Carpenter

Your all-thumbs president must have hit the mute button because he doesn't Tweet a bit, and that's really pleasant.

Carlos Ponce

Find your mute switch Thomas Carpenter until you can provide meaningful input.

Ted Gillis

“Liberals will be taken care of”? Be careful Carlos, you’re beginning to sound like some of your proud brothers.

Carlos Ponce

"CORRUPT Liberals will be taken care of" -Legally of course.

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