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Carlos Ponce

"It appears the author of this travesty is bent on taking Galveston County back to blatant segregation years."

Segregation years -those are the days when Democrats ran things in Galveston County.

Bailey Jones

Rev. Daniels, history is clear. Texas had racially discriminatory voting districts for generations - until the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which required states with a long history of racial discrimination in voting (i.e., Texas) to obtain federal preclearance before implementing any changes to their voting laws or practices. In Shelby County v. Holder the Supreme Court gutted that provision of the law. That protection is now gone, and for the elderly white power structure that is the base of the Texas Republican Party, old times here are not forgotten.

Ted Gillis

It’s interesting how republicans will always point out that the Democratic Party back in the 60’s was the party of segregation, but yet after leading the country out of segregation through congressional acts, the opposing democratic members (racists) left the party and were welcomed into the Republican Party.

That part of history they fail to point out.

Carlos Ponce

Racists are not welcome in the Republican Party, Ted. The party platform adheres to Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream of judging people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. Democrats on the other hand practice identity politics and use race as the basis of decisions - clearly racist.

Gary Scoggin

Quoting MLK is like quoting the Bible. If you look hard enough you can find something that justifies whatever you want to do. Especially if it’s taken out of context. Carlos is particularly good at that.

Carlos Ponce

Nothing is taken out of context, Gary Scoggin.

David Hardee

The Author declares - "As I read about and saw the maps a demographer has drawn up for Precinct 3, it’s clear that they’re designed to disenfranchise and nullify the representation of people of all races in the precinct."

How his claim of - " it’s clear that they’re designed to disenfranchise and nullify the representation of people of all races in the precinct." - makes any sense escapes all logic. "all races" being disenfranchised and nullified means there is no racism in the decision. Does the author want to clarify what is intended by this portion of his article?

Gary Scoggin

David -- At the end of the day, the demographics of elected officials should more or less be representative of the collective population that they represent. I don't think that taking a person that has typically represented Lamarque, Dickinson and West Texas City and putting him into a district that represents Friendswood and League City accomplishes that.

David Hardee

Gary, are you responding to - but not disputing my comment - which pointed out that this article by the chronic guest column contributor reverend religious preacher Daniels, acting as a political zealot, produced a fallacious and illogical claim?

Since you gave no respect to my challenge, that Daniel's article was totally without credibility, apparently you agree with the article’s hyperbolic innuendo that there is a disenfranchising intent (I quote the central theme of Daniel’s article - " it’s clear that they’re designed to disenfranchise and nullify the representation of people of ALL RACES in the precinct.".

So out of respect for your question; I will attempt to demonstrate Daniel’s article’s incredibility with other illustrations that show the article hypothesis of disenfranchising “ALL RACES”, if it were true, that the new boundaries are fair based on prerogatives of gerrymandering any district’s boundaries.

Let us define gerrymandering - “What is it called when voting districts are drawn to benefit a specific political party?” Answer is gerrymandering. And what it is “Gerrymandering is the practice of setting boundaries of electoral districts to favor specific political interests within legislative bodies, often resulting in districts with convoluted, winding boundaries rather than compact areas.”

Gary, ever since “at large” voting was discarded by the decree/opinion/influences of the Supreme court, declaring that district boundaries must be drawn to give partiality to getting/electing minority representatives to legislative power, gerrymandering - “convoluted, winding boundaries rather than compact areas.” has been necessary.

Across the state district boundaries were gerrymandered - to assure there were minority representatives elected (like Barbara Jordan and her heir, Sheila Jackson Lee, Al Green and others) and would always be without any but minority challenger’s, using “convoluted, winding boundaries rather than compact areas.”

These NEW - “convoluted, winding boundaries rather than compact areas.” district boundaries are what Daniel’s article declares are intended to disenfranchise “all races”.

The fact that district 3 has been incorporated into the new boundaries evidently has not disturbed the population density COURT requirements since there have not been any legal adjudication successfully, yet. It is unfortunate that just like the LaMarque ISD was dissolved for failure to perform, the “typical” district 3 was dissolved, but that was not done with the intent to disenfranchise “ all races” but instead to be fair by balancing as required by law. The law requires that the number of districts be equal in population. For those with difficulty in understanding here is an example. If a county has a total population of 100,000 and the number of districts is 4 then each of the 4 boundaries must connect and area which will encompass 25,000 people. If the number of district is to be 3 then each district would encompass 33,333 people. The population in each district does not have to be carved so that any specific race, gender, religion, socio-economic, or category of class, culture or other demographic has a high density that would create partiality or dominance, This new set of districts is no longer a force used by any political party to create a constituency that will perpetually render a dominate candidate type and polarity vote of a specific race, gender, etc. or category to be elected. 1 citizen gets 1 vote and the people's choice is elected.

If any consider the new boundaries unfair, please state some facts to support the claim instead of hypothesizing.

So Gary, your saying the “person” being put in the new boundaries “instead of the typical” or “collective population” is going to be facing a challenge to convince the revised district’s voters he is the best person to represent them “does not accomplish THAT”. What do you mean by THAT?

Gary Scoggin

David…. You sure read a lot into two sentences. “Not responding to”, “disrespecting”, etc.

David Hardee

You addressed me directly. Your 2 sentences carried a statement couched question. I gave a complete explanation of the reason why your question indicated a lack of knowledge and provided the knowledge you appeared to lack. What you do or do not think is inconsequential. i preformed to the same standard always, thorough. Each time I do this it is with a critique of my own knowledge and conclusions. That process, self critiquing, makes a better person. Being trivial and frivolous about an issue is a fools paradise.

Gary Scoggin

It is regrettable that you mistake my lack of time to write an over-lengthy, pedantic response as Ignorance and disrespect. And I don’t have that kind of time now. Some of us still work for a living and have other commitments rather than replying to thinly veiled borderline racist rants that demonstrate both a lack of empathy and understanding of people unlike you. (Malcontents, as you like to call them.) But suffice it to say the post was not a couched question, it was an opinion. And a damned good one.

David Hardee

Gary, you are still dwelling in the thread of personally directing comments to me needing response

The consequence is: your saying “thinly veiled borderline racist rants that demonstrate both a lack of empathy and understanding of people unlike you.” deserves a rejoinder. Please review all my comments under this article and point to a RACIST statement.

Recall that you commented to this statement of mine, “The Author declares - "As I read about and saw the maps a demographer has drawn up for Precinct 3, it’s clear that they’re designed to disenfranchise and nullify the representation of people of all races in the precinct." “How his claim of - " it’s clear that they’re designed to disenfranchise and nullify the representation of people of all races in the precinct." - makes any sense escapes all logic. "all races" being disenfranchised and nullified means there is no racism in the decision. Does the author want to clarify what is intended by this portion of his article? Did you find RACISM in those statements, Gary?

Gary, your lack of TIME causing lack of RESPECT to an issue under scrutiny should be considered before you pop off and or vote.

Empathy - the ability to understand and share the feelings of another. - has no value in a GENERAL PUBLIC critical TIME. Here Gary is your empathic statement “ I don't think that taking a person that has typically represented Lamarque, Dickinson and West Texas City and putting him into a district that represents Friendswood and League City accomplishes that.” Why Gary should this individuals dilemma be considered above the common good, ever.

And when you make a “I think” statement in a direct dialogue with another it is both an opinion (especially when presented without any supporting evidence) and, an open request for a response, therefore it becomes a question.

Ted Gillis

Thou doth protest too much, Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

If you are against de facto racism, one should protest.

Ted Gillis

You’re making up excuses like a white supremacist.

Carlos Ponce

Ted, look in the mirror.

Charles Douglas

Speaking of voting and politics, can somebody tell me where Kamala Harris and Joe Biden went to school? They are two of the worst performing DUMB-[censored] politicians I have ever seen or observed in my life! You know I guess the DEMS was scraping the bottom of the barrel when they "engineered" these two into the White House! Had to BE!!!! Was it Affirmative Action, that got Kamala by in school, is that where she got her break? I thought in America it is about Meritocracy, instead one's color now, & not by Who you know or Party with?

I am glad Dr. MLK cannot see the BS which is going on in this country today! Four star generals calling up China's Leader and plotting a coup against his own President! The FBI, CIA, NSA, Big Tech, Fake Media, conspiring to use a fake dossier to Frame a duely elected President Of The United States Of America, I cannot believe IT!

Brave disabled Veterans and U.S. Citizens homeless, and sleeping on the streets, and Joe China, and his RADICALS in control are offering ILLEGAL ALIENS $450,000 dollars each for crossing the border, breaking our laws illegally! I don't get it and what are people saying about this? NOTHING!!! When Joe China is not sleeping in Global Leader meetings, he is closing down American fossil fuel pipelines forcing gasoline prices to go to historic highs, and nobody knows what Kamala's job is ....nor what she is doing!

Gary Scoggin

And this has what to do with Precinct 3, my friend?

Charles Douglas

NO need to deal with small stuff, when the whole country is going to HELL IN A HANDBASKET "OG!" I saw where the subject matter dealt with voting, and politics, and I "Hauled Off" and gave my opinion on both on a national level! I figured that "Bronze Star" in my service shadow box,..coupled with the years I put in defending free speech in a far-off land so many years ago, gave me the space to criticize how this whole country is being affected instead of just one little precinct in Galveston County Texas!

So, with that,....Let me give a shout out to all of the other VETS out there who put it all on the line for a free and prosperous America! Last but not least, let me give a shout out to all the HOMIES IN VIRGINIA, WHO LIT THIS NATION UP A FEW DAYS AGO! Virginia Rocks!!!!!!!! My kind of people!!!!

Paula Flinn

Thank you, and the other vets who write in, for serving our country! We honor our vets!

Charles Douglas

Ms. Flinn> Thank you, and I appreciate your acknowledgements not just for me, but for all of us ( Vets) who did our part! Thanks again!

Ted Gillis

Paula, not all vets care to be singled out.

My father for example, never once used his WW2 service as a handle or a moniker. Men of that generation were just different, I guess. Maybe it was because there were so many of them. My older cousins, who served during Vietnam never talk about their service unless you specifically ask them about it. My son who served in the Middle East hardly speaks about it. He’s told me, that when him drives back from a weekend of reserve duty in San Antonio, he’ll stop to get his snacks before he leaves the city. He says if stops at Buckees or some other place along the way, still dressed in his fatigues, someone always wants to pay for his purchases. He just doesn’t care for that.

So the next time you want to thank a veteran for their service, understand that they will be polite and recognize your thanks, but most of them actually just want to be treated the same as the rest of us.

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