Among the biggest outbreaks linked to the virus that causes COVID-19 has been in hokum, which has infected many people of all walks of life and of every political stripe.

That’s unfortunate, because clumps of pseudoscience about vaccines in that blizzard of general falsity have fatally misled some people.

Although attempting to glean facts from that flurry of nonsense has been daunting, there are a couple of simple facts, that are facts, and should be compelling to about half the adult population of Galveston County.

• Almost everybody dying with COVID-19 infection is unvaccinated.

• Almost everybody forced into a hospital and to undergo treatment to avoid dying is unvaccinated.

And using the word “almost” is hedging the facts almost more than practically necessary.

Only about 150 of the more than 18,000 U.S. COVID-19-related deaths in May were among fully vaccinated people, according to an Associated Press analysis of available government data.

That means only about 0.8 percent of the deaths were among vaccinated people, which means more than 99 percent of the dead were unvaccinated.

That should be close enough to “all” to get the attention of anybody who hasn’t been vaccinated.

Likewise, “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations, according to the AP analysis. That’s about 0.1 percent, which means 99.9 percent of people who had to be hospitalized were unvaccinated.

That’s about as close to an absolute “all” as it gets in statistics.

These simple facts are why the Galveston County Health District recently began reporting whether local people who died with COVID-19 had been vaccinated. The district made the change to make a specific point about the importance of COVID-19 vaccinations and how they’re making deaths from the virus preventable, Galveston County Local Health Authority Dr. Philip Keiser said.

“We’re making it real to people,” Keiser said.

Noting the unvaccinated among the dead is only a first step in underscoring the importance of vaccinations, Keiser said.

The district also plans to report the vaccination differences in local hospitalizations and new cases, he said.

Keiser expected the numbers to make some trends clear — vaccinated people who test positive are hospitalized and die less frequently than unvaccinated people.

“The people who have died who have been vaccinated are extremely, extremely rare,” Keiser said.

As with the national numbers, the vast majority of people hospitalized by COVID-19 at the University of Texas Medical Branch in recent months have been unvaccinated, said Dr. Janak Patel, the director of infection control and health care epidemiology.

“There’s no question,” Patel said. “Ninety-nine percent of hospitalizations for COVID are unvaccinated. For the last three months, we haven’t had a death in a person who was fully vaccinated and was two weeks after their last vaccination. It’s not happened since we began our public vaccination effort.”

People at medical branch hospitals sick with COVID mostly are unvaccinated by choice, Patel said. Often Patel has encountered people reciting false information about vaccine science or other “mumbo jumbo,” he said.

Other facts about COVID-19 are relevant, of course. People already suffering from some medical conditions are more likely to be hospitalized and die.

People who suffer obesity also are at higher risk.

People older than 60 are too.

None of us can become younger, of course. None of us can immediately correct a medical condition that puts us at higher risk.

But each of us can take the simple, effective, safe step of being vaccinated and join the ranks of those unlikely to die with COVID.

• Michael A. Smith

Michael A. Smith: 409-683-5206; michael.smith@galvnews.com​.

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Ron Woody

Good information and it is appreciated. I do have a few questions.

1. On May 11th before the Senate Committee on Health, etc. Dr. Fauci, Marks, and Wallensky stated that approximately 40% of their staff remained unvaccinated. These staffs are surely some of the most knowledgeable in the US. I could accept 5% because of medical history, but 40%! WHY?

2. Why is US having to rely on other countries to report the negative side effects to Covid specifically to young, healthy individuals?

3. What are the long term side effects to the vaccine, specifically in people with no current medical conditions?

4. Why is there no liability for the manufacturers of the vaccines?

5. Why are there no standards or statistics for those who have the Covid anti-bodies yet remain unvaccinated?

As someone that recently was told I had positive Covid anti-bodies, apparently asymptomatic, no fever, loss of smell or taste over the last year. Why should I take the vaccine? If my immune system was strong enough to unkowingly fight Covid, why take a vaccine that potentially weakens that immune system?

There are enough unknowns, that those who are vaccine hesitant should at least be tested for Covid anti-bodies prior to volunteering to being a guinea pig.

It would have been nice if Mr. Smith would have been honest enough to make that suggestion. Why didn't he? He still provided very good information, but let's remember each of our immu e systems is unique, and it is up to each individual to deterimine what is best, not the government, publisher, editor or neighbor.

Apogies for any grammatical or spelling errors as done on my phone.

Dan Freeman

1. On May 11th before the Senate Committee on Health, etc. Dr. Fauci, Marks, and Wallensky stated that approximately 40% of their staff remained unvaccinated. These staffs are surely some of the most knowledgeable in the US. I could accept 5% because of medical history, but 40%! WHY?

Around 1 hour and 40 minutes into the hearing, Sen. Richard Burr of North Carolina asked Fauci, Marks and Walensky what percentage of employees in their organizations had been already vaccinated ( youtu.be/qW8MF98wCgs?t=8421 ).

Regarding NIAID employees, Fauci responded: “You know I’m not 100% sure, Senator. But I think it’s probably a little bit more than half, probably around 60 percent”. Then Marks said that the number for FDA employees was “probably in the same range,” although he couldn’t “tell an exact number.”

Walensky did not give a percentage, noting that CDC employees can voluntarily report their vaccinated status, but that it is not required by the Federal Government. “So we do not know,” she said.

The percentage mentioned by Fauci and Marks coincides with the nationwide trend in the United States, where around 60% of adults have received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine and 37.8% of the entire population have been fully vaccinated, based on the CDC tracker here .

An FDA spokesperson told Reuters that the claim on social media was “absolutely false.” The organization does not know the exact percentage of our staff who have not yet been vaccinated, but it has been “encouraged to hear from the large number of our staff who have chosen to be vaccinated,” the spokesperson said in an emailed statement.

Fauci and Marks said to believe around 50% to 60% of their employees at the NIAID and the FDA had been immunized against COVID-19, but they did not say the remaining percentage represented employees refused vaccination.

This response is abstracted from an article by the Reuters Fact Check team

2. Why is US having to rely on other countries to report the negative side effects to Covid specifically to young, healthy individuals?

This is not true. Side effects are reported for all vaccines used in the US to the CDC. We also obtain information from other countries, but US information is largely based on US data. For more information go to Report vaccine side effects to FDA/CDC Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). The VAERS toll-free number is 1-800-822-7967 or report online to https://vaers.hhs.gov/reportevent.html.

3. What are the long term side effects to the vaccine, specifically in people with no current medical conditions?

Since the vaccine has been administered in general for less than a year data are not available. No significant long term effects have been observed in the clinical trials

4. Why is there no liability for the manufacturers of the vaccines?

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar invoked the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act (PREP). The 2005 law empowers the HHS secretary to provide legal protection to companies making or distributing critical medical supplies, such as vaccines and treatments, unless there’s “willful misconduct” by the company. The protection lasts until 2024.

5. Why are there no standards or statistics for those who have the Covid anti-bodies yet remain unvaccinated?

This is because there are no clear conclusions for unvaccinated persons who have anti-bodies due to an exposure. In the simplest terms: “If you are vaccinated, you are protected, and you can enjoy your Memorial Day,” the C.D.C. director, Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, said during a White House news conference. “If you are not vaccinated, our guidance has not changed for you, you remain at risk of infection. You still need to mask and take other precautions.”

As someone that recently was told I had positive Covid anti-bodies, apparently asymptomatic, no fever, loss of smell or taste over the last year. Why should I take the vaccine? If my immune system was strong enough to unkowingly fight Covid, why take a vaccine that potentially weakens that immune system?

A second exposure to a COVID variant may kill you. The vaccines are the only known mechanism for prophylaxis.

Wayne D Holt

"Since the vaccine has been administered in general for less than a year data are not available. No significant long term effects have been observed in the clinical trials." Dan, do you see the 100% horse hockey contained in the above? Long term in the clinical sense generally means beginning at Year Three, from what I understand. How can one either observe or not observe long term effects in the very short term we have to judge at the present time? The clinical trials are scheduled to end in 2022 and 2023, depending on the manufacturer. The only reason no long term effects have been observed is because we're talking about a short term of use. This should be obvious even to the most obtuse.

"A second exposure to a COVID variant may kill you. The vaccines are the only known mechanism for prophylaxis." More malarkey. What peer-reviewed study has concluded this? What recognized authority stands behind this ludicrous claim? Corona variants are generally so similar in structure that about 99% of the variant is as identical as we can determine. Variants over time tend to become less lethal, not more as killing a host faster is an evolutionary dead end for the virus to spread. Of course, if you have Ft. Detrick or the Wuhan Lab on the case, the variant may be getting some help in the gain-of-function department.

Dan Freeman

"Since the vaccine has been administered in general for less than a year data are not available. No significant long term effects have been observed in the clinical trials."

This is not “horse hockey.” I was merely stating the obvious that we cannot know much about long term effects when they have only been studied for a few years. However, other mRNA vaccines have not had significant long term effects. I reviewed the available information and believe along with CDC and the FDA that the risk of long term effects is far lower than those known to be associated with COVID 19.

A second exposure to a COVID variant may kill you. The vaccines are the only known mechanism for prophylaxis." More malarkey. What peer-reviewed study has concluded this? What recognized authority stands behind this ludicrous claim? Corona variants are generally so similar in structure that about 99% of the variant is as identical as we can determine. Variants over time tend to become less lethal, not more as killing a host faster is an evolutionary dead end for the virus to spread. Of course, if you have Ft. Detrick or the Wuhan Lab on the case, the variant may be getting some help in the gain-of-function department.

Again I was giving you a civil answer to your question. The vaccines according to FDA and CDC are the only known prophylaxis to COVID-19 and its variants. Too many peer reviewed studies to summarize support this. Refer to any recent issues in JAMA or New England Journal of medicine, or Science or Nature.

Saying that a variant is 99% similar to the original is meaningless as tiny variations result in variants. There is no evidence that variants become less lethal over time. The Delta Variant of COVID 19 shows the opposite. Neither Fort Dietrich nor any of the dozens of other COVID-19 labs have had provable accidents with corona viruses.

As for evolutionary dead ends, viruses are not subject to direct evolution as they do not reproduce independently of a cell. Many diseases have become markedly more virulent over time. Examples include bubonic plague, tuberculosis, HIV, and influenza.

Thank you for your questions and please consider vaccination as a means of both self interest and protecting the community.

Wayne D Holt

Dan, the invective is (almost always) for the information, not the informer. My apologies if it appeared to target you personally, that was not the intent. Now, on to the important stuff.

My point on long-term effects is that it is pointless to mention long-term effects of an injection/technology that does not have a long-term history of accepted clinical trials. Nothing useful can be said since it hasn't occurred yet. How the CDC and FDA claim the effects of a protocol that has never been used in mass inoculations before 2021 will be benign long-term? They skipped the animal studies and went directly to human trials. Then, they ordered it up for tens of millions of Americans. How would you assess long-term risk of that new approach versus a virus that has the same approximate fatality case rate as the flu, per the most recent UK data on the Delta variant (see my other posts today for the details)?

"The vaccines according to FDA and CDC are the only known prophylaxis to COVID-19 and its variants. Too many peer reviewed studies to summarize support this. Refer to any recent issues in JAMA or New England Journal of medicine, or Science or Nature."

Definition of prophylaxis: measures designed to preserve health (as of an individual or of society) and prevent the spread of disease. Of course, the FDA and CDC are neglecting natural immunity, which which was designed to preserve health much more effectively and at less risk than immunization. How do we know that? By the vast predominance of people exposed to Covid, were Covid "cases," and never even knew that had it. Their own immune system prevented the development of the disease, unlike the compromised systems of those with co-morbidities suffered. The WHO even changed the gold standard definition of herd immunity in October 2020 to remove natural immunity, as if immunization magically provides an immune system rather than stimulates the one almost all of us are born with. Just an aside: the editors of the British Medical Journal and the New England Journal of Medicine, with a combined editorial experience of over 50 years, agreed that 30% to 40% of peer-reviewed materials they had examined over the years were worthless. They were compromised by goal seeking and data bias fueled by the grant funding spigot the researchers wished to remain free-flowing.

"There is no evidence that variants become less lethal over time. The Delta Variant of COVID 19 shows the opposite. Neither Fort Dietrich nor any of the dozens of other COVID-19 labs have had provable accidents with corona viruses." Your first sentence is incorrect. Variant lethality diminishing over time is the generally accepted model and has been for over 100 years. New models offer alternatives to the idea most viruses become less deadly as they mutate, there have been exceptions. Delta variant has shown the opposite track from your statement in England, where 75% of cases in May were determined to be Delta. Hospital admissions/utilization dropped like a rock at a time when a more lethal, contagious variant should have seen the exact opposite effect. This was not a limited study or statistical hypothesis, it was real time reporting of official data.

A study published in the February 2021 journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science included this evaluation: "Our model, incorporating these components of immunity, recapitulates both the current severity of SARS-CoV-2 infection and the benign nature of HCoVs (human coronaviruses), suggesting that once the endemic phase is reached and primary exposure is in childhood, SARS-CoV-2 may be no more virulent than the common cold."

"As for evolutionary dead ends, viruses are not subject to direct evolution as they do not reproduce independently of a cell. Many diseases have become markedly more virulent over time. Examples include bubonic plague, tuberculosis, HIV, and influenza."

But viruses are very much subject to the evolutionary viability of the host they infect. A virus which has developed an adaptation that includes quickly overwhelming a host will be at a disadvantage in spreading versus one that keeps the host alive longer.

And how have you concluded bubonic plague, tuberculosis, HIV, and influenza have become "more virulent"? In medical terms, it means highly infective; malignant or deadly, causing clinical symptoms. I am unaware that these diseases have in any fundamental way changed their mode of infection, severity of damage or clinical prognosis if left untreated. What has become more virulent about these infective agents, keeping in mind the spread of an infection through a population is conditioned by density, nutrition, sanitary infrastructure, etc?

"Thank you for your questions and please consider vaccination as a means of both self interest and protecting the community." Thank you for your civil response and again, my apologies if my initial post was personally inflammatory to you; that was not my intent. As to your request, I have already promised Bailey I will be part of the control population and he might be disappointed if I reneged on the deal.

[smile]

Tony Brown

I completely agree with this article. My only possible quibble would be that it’s rather gentle on the obesity comment. A little exercise and less junk food provide a host of benefits; resistance to COVID-19 is only one such benefit.

Ron Woody

Mr. Brown, I agree. My hope was that after the last year of Covid Americans would be more mindful of their personal health.

As an Uber driver the amount of fast food I deliver on a daily basis is disturbing. The fact that many of these deliveries are less than half a mile is even more problematic.

The government/media fear mongering of implying that going outside equated to a death sentence only added to the challenge!

Ted Gillis

You totally made that last comment up Woody. That was never the case and for you to spread it is disingenuous. No one in the government nor in normal media outlets ever stated that.

AI call BS on you.

Wayne D Holt

VAERS data released today by the CDC showed a total of 387,087 reports of adverse events from all age groups following COVID vaccines, including 6,113 deaths and 31,240 serious injuries between Dec. 14, 2020 and June 18, 2021.

If you're looking for hoakum, I would start with the incredibly naive belief the CDC is finding no connection to the explosion of adverse reactions that have occurred since the mRNA injections were introduced. A five-month period obliterated all previous VAERS recorded numbers over many years for these life-threatening--even fatal--occurrences.

There is no logical conclusion other than these experimental, gene-altering injections can be dangerous.

I can avoid situations that are higher risk for infection simply by avoiding low circulation, densely packed indoor areas. Outdoors, few people, significant distance and the chances of getting this are very low. Natural immunity also works in your favor; there is no solid evidence whatsoever that I have seen the shot(s) provide superior immunity...and natural immunity does not entail the adverse reaction threat.

Once I roll up my sleeve, it's a crapshoot...for life. NO ONE on God's green earth can tell you with a single shred of fact-based evidence that this is going to be safe years down the road. It's a brand new mass vaccination protocol that has never been tried before. YOU are the test subject when you take this shot, whether you know it or not.

No. Thank. You.

Wayne D Holt

And now the final word on THE SCIENCE from the man who invented mRNA vaccines. Dr. Robert W. Malone was the inventor of mRNA vaccines at the Salk Institute in 1988. Is it hokum when the inventor of mRNA vaccines says the following:

“One of my concerns is the government is not being transparent with us. I’m of the opinion that people have the right to decide whether to accept vaccines or not, especially since these are experimental vaccines. This is a fundamental right having to do with clinical research ethics. We know there are risks, but...we don’t have the information we need to make a reasonable decision.”

Malone went on to say, "Normally, at this stage, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Advisory Committee on Immunizations Practices would’ve performed those risk-benefit analyses. They would be data-based and science-based. They’re not right now."

So for the low information folks, whether as readers or writers of malarkey trafficked to the reasoning-challenged, your hectoring is just a cry of the Branch Covidians, the new secular religion. From the idiotic bat soup culinary origin narrative, to the doomsday predictions of death stalking the land, to the blatant plumping/deflating of case numbers by the simple expedient of yo-yoing PCR cycle count guidelines and ad nauseum...this has been a total cluster flub. The CDC has been exposed for its role as a perfectly supine, supremely corrupt organization staffed by those with strong financial ties to the very protocols and products they recommend. Never ask a barber if you need a haircut.

There has been an avalanche of evidence offered of the perfidy of those in government, Big Pharma and the media in attempting to shove the Covid narrative down our collective throat, bankrupt Main St while making sure the big players remained open and thriving, and now shoving an experimental gene-altering secret sauce into our arm.

There aren't very many hesitant left to persuade with more toaster ovens, dedicated lotteries and game tickets. I believe the only truly important question remaining is, will the Branch Covidians finally use some common sense and leave the unvaccinated alone? You've gone from being tolerable to annoying and now are within striking range of being insufferable. Enjoy your mythic 95% effective mRNA injection and leave the rest of us alone. We just want to sit here quietly and watch this experiment in progress on you as it develops.

Wayne D Holt

From the same Robert W. Malone mentioned above, the inventor of mRNA vaccines:

(A) biodistribution study obtained by Bridle showed lipid nanoparticles from the vaccine did not stay in the deltoid muscle where they were injected as the vaccine’s developers claimed would happen, but circulated throughout the body and accumulated in large concentrations in organs and tissues, including the spleen, bone marrow, liver, adrenal glands and — in “quite high concentrations” — in the ovaries.

The mRNA — or messenger RNA — is what tells the body to manufacture the spike protein. The lipid nanoparticles are like the “boxes” the mRNA is shipped in, according to Malone. “If you find lipid nanoparticles in an organ or tissue, that tells you the drug got to that location.”

According to the data in the Japanese study, lipid nanoparticles were found in the whole blood circulating throughout the body within four hours, and then settled in large concentrations in the ovaries, bone marrow and lymph nodes.

>>>Malone has said there needed to be monitoring of vaccine recipients for leukemia and lymphomas as there were concentrations of lipid nanoparticles in the bone marrow and lymph nodes. But those signals often don’t show up for six months to three or nine years down the road, he said. Usually, signals like this are picked up in animal studies and long-term clinical trials, but this didn’t happen with mRNA vaccines, Malone has asserted.<<<

Malone said there are two adverse event signals that are becoming apparent to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). One of them is thrombocytopenia — not having enough platelets, which are manufactured in the bone marrow. >>>The other is reactivation of latent viruses.<<<

Malone found the ovarian signal perplexing because there is no accumulation in the testes.

Malone said the original data packages contained this biodistribution information. “This data has been out there a long time” within the protected, non-disclosed, purview of the regulators across the world.

According to Malone, the FDA knew the COVID spike protein was biologically active and could travel from the injection site and cause adverse events, and that the spike protein, if biologically active, is very dangerous.

In fact, Malone was one of many scientists to warn the FDA about the dangers of the free spike protein.

Malone suggested autoimmune issues may be related to free-circulating spike protein which developers assured would not happen. To pick up autoimmune issues, a 2- to 3- year follow-up period in phase 3 patients would be required to monitor for potential autoimmune consequences from vaccines — but that monitoring didn’t happen with the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

As much as I personally like and respect Michael Smith, he is wrong, wrong, wrong on this issue. When I pointed out the above FACTS in comments on June 10 re another story, he used Politifact and USA Today as examples of credible sources that debunked Brindle's conclusions. Politifact's lead debunking expert witness was a co-developer of the vaccines themselves. Do we ask folks on Death Row if they're innocent?

We now have the guy who freakin' INVENTED mRNA technology saying the same things I, and a few others here, have been pointing out for over a year. The FDA is criminally, and terminally, compromised. The anecdotal "evidence" you hear from recently quoted UTMB luminaries is irrelevant when THE SCIENCE clearly points in the direction of high risk for taking the vaccine. As Malone points out, you will find out in six months to three years whether jumping on the mRMA vaccine train now has given you lifetime autoimmune disorders, leukemia or lymphomas to fight.

Your monkey, your circus. Count me out.

Dan Freeman

Mr. Hold provides incredibly mis leading information when he writes: And now the final word on THE SCIENCE from the man who invented mRNA vaccines. Dr. Robert W. Malone was the inventor of mRNA vaccines at the Salk Institute in 1988. Is it hokum when the inventor of mRNA vaccines says the following:” Yes it is complete hokum.

Dr. Robert W. Malone did not invent the mRNA vaccine. Mr. Holt is quoting from an interview with Tucker Carlson in Christianity Today: https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/12387/20210625/mrna-vaccine-inventor-warns-gov-t-not-being-transparent-on-risks-cautions-adolescents-to-avoid-jabs.htm

The mRNA vaccines for COVID were developed using teams of scientists at Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech Pharmeceuticals. The concept should be attributed to Hungarian-born scientist Katalin Karikó who worked in obscurity for several decades. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/

Wayne D Holt

No Dan, I don't have any idea what Tucker Carlson said as I haven't owned a television in 20 years. I am completely unfamiliar with Christianity Today.

And once again, you've dug yourself a pit and leaped in blindfolded.

Robert Malone on Google Scholar: Robert W Malone

RW Malone MD, LLC

Inventor of mRNA Vaccines

Inventor of DNA vaccines

vaccines

biologics

gene therapy

I'll just quote his website, which is an informal CV of his accomplishments:

"Dr. Malone is the inventor of mRNA vaccines (and DNA vaccines). He also discovered lipid mediated and naked RNA transfection technologies.

It all started when he was at the Salk Institute in 1987 and 1988. There, he pioneered in-vitro RNA transfection and also in-vivo RNA transfection (in frog embryos, as well as mice).

This resulted in his seminal paper: Cationic liposome-mediated RNA transfection RW Malone, PL Felgner, IM Verma. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) 86 (16), 6077-6081

His filed patent and disclosures from the Salk included in-vivo RNA transfection and also methods for mRNA stabilization - now being claimed as invented by others. These are available for review.

His research was continued at Vical in 1989, where the first in-vivo mammalian rat experiments were designed by him. The mRNA, constructs, reagents were developed at the Salk institute and at Vical by Dr. Malone, this included dosing amounts for the in-vivo experiments. RNA and DNA were sent to Dr. Jon Wolff via Fedex. Dr.Wolff at the University of Wisconsin injected mice and rats. The initial patent disclosures for RNA and DNA vaccination were written by Dr. Malone in 1988-1989. Dr. Malone was also an inventor of DNA vaccines in 1988 and 1989.

This body of work resulted in over 10 patents and numerous publications, yielding about 7000 citations for this work."

You accidentally stumbled into the truth when you wrote, "The mRNA vaccines for COVID were developed using teams of scientists at Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech Pharmeceuticals." There is a fundamental difference in the definitions of INVENTED and DEVELOPED.

So...no, what I wrote is completely true and you have mistaken invention for applied. Moderna and Pfizer took what was already known and worked from that. They no more invented mRNA technology than the man in the moon did. Malone was doing the basic research a quarter-century before Big Pharma saw a way to immunize themselves against the fear of less than obscene profits. The article you quote above re Katalin Karikó indicates she began her work in 1990. Malone was there three years before her with the groundbreaking work.

Because you continue to be civil--thank you--this should conclude our chat for today.

Wayne D Holt

The cherry on top from the statnews.com article you quoted: "In 1990, researchers at the University of Wisconsin managed to make it work in mice. Karikó wanted to go further." Please see the reference Malone makes in his bio I quoted above to the University of Wisconsin re rat and mice subjects. Can you connect the dots on this one?

Dan Freeman

Malone can claim anything he wants on his bio. He made it up.

Wayne D Holt

7000+ citations of his work in other scientific journals since he first published his findings. I already mentioned that the article you quoted above specifically talked about the very work he was cardinal in developing.

You're a hoot, Dan. You must not realize YOU just made up that last sentence, as useful a bit of useful idiocy as one could expect. What does it take to trade in your obstinacy about FACTS for an admission that you're on the wrong side of reality?

Wayne D Holt

FDA SUCKER PUNCH # 2,267: FDA In Brief: FDA Advises Against Use of SARS-CoV-2 Antibody Test Results to Evaluate Immunity or Protection From COVID-19, Including After Vaccination.

“Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a safety communication informing the public that results from SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests should not be used to evaluate immunity or protection from COVID-19 at any time, and especially after the person received a COVID-19 vaccination.”

“The authorized vaccines for prevention of COVID-19 induce antibodies to specific viral protein targets; post-vaccination antibody test results will be negative in individuals without a history of previous natural infection if the test used does not detect the type of antibodies induced by the vaccine.”

There you go, Vax Troopers. The FDA is telling you that unless you've contracted Covid naturally, the negative antibody test results you've been so pleased with are USELESS. You could be infected today and not even know it. And the bonus is, you still could be facing blood clots, respiratory failure, lymphoma, leukemia, autoimmune disorders and other value-added benefits of the shot...for life.

Another interesting aside: Q. How is the Medical Mafia able to assure us with supreme confidence that the vaccine is effective, since they have never developed the antibody test for the spike protein that would indicate how efficient the vaccine was at setting up that gene-machine defense? A. They are clueless and hope you remain so, as well.

But don't stop believing in the FDA, Big Pharma and the Medical Mafia. You're all in now, might as well take it to the end of the line.

George Laiacona

The year 1918 repeating itself. No vaccinations means “ Voluntary thinning of the herd “

Carlos Ponce

Big difference, George Laiacona. The 1918 pandemic attacked and killed people of all ages. "Mortality was high in people younger than 5 years old, 20-40 years old, and 65 years and older. The high mortality in healthy people, including those in the 20-40 year age group, was a unique feature of this pandemic."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-commemoration/1918-pandemic-history.htm

On the other hand the 2020 pandemic attacked and killed the elderly and those with other health problems. "The average age of deceased and COVID-19 positive patients was 79.5 years (median 80.5, range 31-103)." March 2020

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/global-covid-19-case-fatality-rates/

January 2021 - In the UK the median age of death was 83.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) — U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres said Friday that the COVID-19 pandemic is causing “untold fear and suffering” for older people around the world who are dying at a higher rate, and especially for those over age 80, whose fatality rate is five times the global average."

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