By all accounts, it was a fine Armistice Day remembrance.

The futile massacres in the Great War were commemorated last weekend with appropriate somberness on the 100th anniversary of the 1918 armistice. World leaders marched down the Champs Elysees in Paris to honor the 16 million killed in World War I.

TV channels unrelievedly churned out one heartbreaking war film after another, until one wanted to cry out like a child, “Give me Doris Day, give me Fred Astaire, give me Mr. Rogers!”

Our president did not emerge as anyone you would exactly erect a statue to in Belleau Wood. He stayed in out of the rain. Indeed, his demeanor throughout was that of a mafia don set down and forced momentarily to behave at a ladies’ lunch. Hunched, hostile, hermetic.

But then, we must learn not to waste more time on his incumbent boorishness, for there are some profound questions about American ideas of warfare that need to be examined during this historic week.

The cry that took hold after 1918 was, of course, that the Great War had been the “war to end all wars.” We know what happened there. But another cry also came out of President Woodrow Wilson’s doomed idealism: “Peace without victory.” And this one can be useful to us today.

While the armistice remembrances were duly being observed in Paris, in Afghanistan the Taliban was routing and massacring American-backed Afghan troops.

Indeed, The Wall Street Journal reported that the conservative Islamic Taliban was “stronger than any time since an American-led military coalition deposed them 17 years ago.”

In Iraq, a major story revealed the U.S. Army had refused to release a study, “The United States Army in the Iraq War,” apparently dealing with mistakes made in trying to establish a political state there after the 2004 invasion.

Of Yemen, where the U.S. has no known troops but has been decisive in furthering the brutal Saudi war and bombing of that poor, small nation, the respected American Secretary of Defense James Mattis stated, in his strongest language to date, that “the tragedy of Yemen worsens by the day.”

Meanwhile, we have troops all over Africa now, our newest area of interest being the Horn of Africa. We now have a base (one of 800-plus worldwide) in Djibouti, the last French colony in Africa. And President Trump, pushed by the relentless Israeli right and his own odd and unformed presidential military pretensions, keeps warning of getting into a war with Iran.

The “war to end all wars”? The cynics soon transmogrified it to the “war to end all peace.” Might we now update the phrase for our times, perhaps calling it “the war to end all understanding of why we are fighting the wars we are fighting today”?

Phil Klay, veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and author of “Redeployment,” wrote most touchingly of this syndrome in The New York Times: “There’s something bizarre about being a veteran of a war that doesn’t end, in a country that doesn’t pay attention.”

Our real duty this fall is to ask not what was in the Europeans’ hearts 100 years ago — we may never know that — but what is in our minds, our hearts and our own spirits today. And to demand that somehow we get our leaders to listen to us.

Georgie Anne Geyer is a nationally syndicated columnist.

(45) comments

Carlos Ponce

"He stayed in out of the rain." Georgie is an anti-Trumper always looking at how to negate Trump's accomplishments. Marine One was grounded because of zero visibility. Secret Service nixed Trump's plan to travel by motorcade. But that was JUST ONE, JUST ONE, JUST ONE ceremony he missed. Why doesn't Georgie mention the other ceremonies he attended, one at an American cemetery outside Paris in the pouring rain and his umbrella was left by the chair that was provided?
Even Liberal Snopes got it right:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-wwi-cemetery-rain-photo/
"Does This Photograph Show President Trump Visiting a WWI Cemetery in the Rain?" Snopes says "True".
Even Liberal NBC News gets it:
"Standing at the presidential podium under a steady rain without an umbrella, Trump joked to six World War II veterans about their enviable position keeping them dry. 'You look so comfortable up there under shelter as we’re getting drenched,' Trump said, drawing laughter from the crowd. 'Very smart people.'
What's wrong, Georgie? Did the news outlet you use fail to report that he stood in the rain in Paris during a ceremony honoring Americans who died in WWI ? Or was your Trump-hater hat on too tight?

Jarvis Buckley

Georgie it is obvious to most readers you didn't right this article to celebrate our past heroic Veteran's .
Your intent was to degrade our country's President. I find that totally
disgusting. Just one time you folks
Should write something positive about DJT. Stop the degrading , slurring, & knowingly untruth's , hate
filled articles. Military becoming stronger than ever. Economy booming. Employment rate all time low. Such a biased uneducated article.

Lisa Gray

I realize this is just an opinion piece, but I am absolutely disgusted by this woman's abject disrespect for HER President. Her spewing of vile and hateful descriptions of our President just made me put this piece down. I absolutely cannot respect someone's opinion who is so clearly afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome. I truly feel sorry for her having Trump live so rent free in her mind. I will appreciate all the good things that have come with his tenure so far. My family are all benefiting from lower taxes, fabulous stock market and the safety of a strengthened military. When President Obama was in office I did not agree with much that he had to say or things that he did as I feel he really ginned up the racial tensions in this country, but I did not throw a 2 year long fit and waste my energy by relentless tantrums. Georgie, why don't you focus all that energy on something positive. Go volunteer at the border, take care of the illegal aliens down there that you refer to as "immigrants". Get a life!

George Croix

Because she's 'resisting', Carlos....
No need for reality in that.....

Diane Turski

Elections have consequences! Vote for better informed leaders in 2020!!!!!

Carlos Ponce

OMG! Diane is calling for no more Democrats!

Kelly Naschke

I quit reading Georgie "the hack"'s drivel a loong time ago.

Jarvis Buckley

I just joined you kelly. Her words will never cross my eyes. She is obviously an accomplished Lady.
So misinformed. To much Morning
Joe.
This type of article does injustice to
our country.

Lisa Gray

Elections do have consequences Diane! I especially love what YOUR President has accomplished so far! Let's see, 2 Conservative judges to the Supreme Court, Stock market and consumer confidence at an all time high, Created over a million new jobs just by undoing Obama's regulations, mortgage applications at an all time high, unemployment is at a 40 year low, promotes buying and hiring AMERICAN, Got rid of nasty NAFTA, Food stamp use at it's lowest in 9 years, Gas prices lowest in 12 years, cut 600 billion from the UN, what a waste that was. And to top it off, the man donates his salary. Now I know that all the liberals out there won't even acknowledge that they are doing better because of his Presidency because you are standing on your convictions, but get real, the country is optimistic and energized. Well with the exception of the hard left tantrum throwers. I pity the folks who cannot pull their partisan heads out of the sand. Sad.

Emile Pope

The stock market is flat. More jobs were created under President Obama. Oil prices? And respect for this country is at an all time low. Putting his family members in his administration? Where's his healthcare plan? His tax returns? Now we'll get to see...show where she is wrong instead of criticizing her for what she wrote...

Randy Chapman

Emile, you are the single most negative person I have ever seen write here. You can't see the forest for the trees.

Carlos Ponce

Emile -"More jobs were created under President Obama." Un-equivalent comparison.
Emile is comparing ALL EIGHT YEARS of job growth under Obama to under two years of Trump. When you compare job growth under Obama in the same time period to Trump's current numbers, Trump's job growth numbers are much higher.
"Putting his family members in his administration?" John F Kennedy named Robert F Kennedy as Attorney General.
"Where's his healthcare plan?" Stopped by ONE VOTE (John McCain) in the Senate.
"His tax returns?" Show me the CONSTITUTIONAL requirement to show them!!!!! And didn't Rachel Maddow expose some of them? No smoking gun there!

Emile Pope

The healthcare plan that had no provision for pre-existing conditions? Where’s the stock market today? Robert Kennedy was approved by the senate. Trump’s family members were given made up jobs that required no approval. Comparing trump to President Obama is laughable...

Carlos Ponce

"The healthcare plan that had no provision for pre-existing conditions?"
American Health Care Act had provisions for pre-existing conditions.
" individuals with pre-existing conditions must be offered health insurance" Costs were left up to individual states and you could buy your insurance from any state. So the claim by Liberals that costs for those with pre-existing conditions was a red herring since you could shop around for a better deal if your state raised those rates.
RFK was confirmed by the Senate. So who approved of HRC when Bill appointed his wife to head the committee to make a health care proposal? And the names of committee members were kept secret.
Comparing Trump to Obama is laughable? Agreed. It's like comparing a Rolls Royce (Trump) to a kid's peddle car (Obama).

George Croix

The stock market today after not quite 2 years is still several thousand higher than when the Nobel Prize winner left office after 8 years.
BUT, the worst recovery in decades after 8 years working on it is over now, and a booming economy in only 2 years thanks to tax cuts and business incentives and useless regulations dumped makes one well wonder why the Nobel was given for what 'might be done', but wasn't, and not for what HAS been done.............
Of course, he managed to make 20 million bucks for himself from 2005 thru 2016, while taking the American middle class to second place.....

Carlos Ponce

The recent failings in the Stock Market have been attributed to Democrats winning the House. I'm not saying that but those involved in Stock Exchange are. The Democrat mantra of increasing taxes on the rich with a simple majority vote makes them wonder, "Why make any money at all if the government is just going to take it away?" And in a couple of years when Republicans win the House back the Dems will throw a hissy fit when a "simple majority vote" is implemented to remove those tax cuts. What is sauce for the goose will be sauce for the gander.

Emile Pope

Garbage. Offering to insure pre-existing conditions but having no limit on the cost is not coverage and to imply that it is simply wrong. Just aw what you just wrote...

Emile Pope

Wasn't a cabinet position for Hillary...

Carlos Ponce

"Wasn't a cabinet position for Hillary..."
Nor do any of Trump's family.

Carlos Ponce

"GARBAGE" man strikes again!
"Offering to insure pre-existing conditions but having no limit on the cost is not coverage and to imply that it is simply wrong."
With the ability to shop for insurance outside your state do you REALLY think all 50 will increase rates? Competition will lead to lower prices. Free market forces in effect. DUH!

Emile Pope

The trump healthcare bill allowed the states to opt-out of covering pre-existing conditions. That makes your statement made-up garbage...

Carlos Ponce

Emile posts, "The trump healthcare bill allowed the states to opt-out of covering pre-existing conditions. That makes your statement made-up garbage..."
"Garbage" man Emile strikes out!
Please examine the proposed American Health Care Act (H.R. 1628) which did not pass for lack of John McCain's vote.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1628/text#toc-HB1B6DA1D11CD4CCEA6256B7B1D3EFA41
I find the following:
"No limiting access to coverage for individuals with preexisting conditions.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed as permitting health insurance issuers to limit access to health coverage for individuals with preexisting conditions."

Emile Pope

The stock market is lower than it was at the beginning of the year. The stock market is lower than it was at the beginning of the year. The stock market is lower than it was at the beginning of the year...

Carlos Ponce

Notice that the stock market started down after the Democrats won the House. Did the talk of taxing the "rich" corporations have this effect? Not by itself but it didn't help things. Contributing was Apple and the other technological stocks.
Reasons given for recent losses:
"Ongoing concerns about demand for Apple's iPhones pushed the company's stock down 5 percent after the Wall Street Journal reported the company cut protection orders for its recently announced iPhone XR, iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max."
"Facebook shares also fell 5.7 percent after another Wall Street Journal report detailing CEO Mark Zuckerberg's handling of the Cambridge Analytica Scandal."
"Tech stocks as a whole took a hit Monday after the Financial Times reported that China would deepen investigations into Samsung, SK Hynix and Micron Technology into alleged 'massive evidence' of antitrust violations."
And what does the American executive branch or Trump policy have to do with any of these stock losses?
Nothing. Zero, Zip, Nada.

Emile Pope

Actually the stock market started downward when trump started his trade wars in February, recovered back to where it was in September, and is back down to lower that it was at the start of the year..."Excuses are monuments of nothingness. They build bridges to nowhere. Those who use these tools of incompetence, seldom become anything but nothing at all.”

Carlos Ponce

Stock market is not for the squeamish. It will recover once investors figure out that Democrat House talk is from a paper tiger. The same thing happened in February when Liberal forecasts of doom and gloom due to tariffs lowered stock at first but when their prophecy did not pan out, stocks rose again.

Emile Pope

Where is it now?

Don Schlessinger

Reading this piece was total waste of time.

Jarvis Buckley

Remember that next time you see her name on an article by line. Such a hate filled article.

George Croix


Georgie, like the other 'resistors', BELIEVE this stuff.....

Can't fix that......

Emile Pope

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/stock-futures-fall-tech-shares-tumble-130246309.html

Tired of winning yet?

George Croix

And yet, after a big fall, they're STILL, after 2 years about 4 thousand points ahead of where the Nobel prize Winner left it, after EIGHT years, PLUS the rest of the economy is going gangbusters, unlike the 'new normal' of food stamps, unemployment checks, and a shrinking middle class, as self...self...declared by the ex-Pres.
No reason to be tired of winning over that.

Tired of taking up for 'what might have been' yet?

Emile Pope

Inherited President Obama's economy (and stock market) and drove it into the ground. Typical trump...

Carlos Ponce

Anyone with stock market knowledge would tell you the current stock market downturns are not due to Trump's policies.
As for other economic factors, the economy is doing FAR BETTER under Trump than Obama.
Lower unemployment numbers across the board - Blacks, whites, Hispanics, women. Highest number of employed EVER in the History of the United States.
Higher take home wages. Isn't that what matters, Emile?
Higher GDP numbers (4.2). (And Liberal pundits predicted it would not reach 3!)
To say Trump drove the economy to the ground is the ranting of an uninformed madman.

George Croix

Only you, Pope, could conclude that being still HIGHER, in most areas HISTORICALLY HIGHER, in ALL aspects than when 'inherited', is 'driving it in to the ground'.....
Must be tough living with the memory of 'what might have been' had it not been up to an incompetent to git 'er done.....

Emile Pope

President Obama NEVER had a year when the stock market was lower than the previous year. And his job numbers were better. He gave trump a booming economy and he trashed it...

George Croix

You're a funny guy, Pope....

You got a nickel a day for a week and have 35 cents at the end of it.
I got a dime a day for a week but lost a nickel the last day so have 65 cents at the end ot if.
According to your line of 'reasoning', I'm worse off because I had a downturn, even though I still have more money........
You and Gruber, huh....
[beam][beam][beam][beam]

The jobs thing is particularly humorous when one considers you're comparing 8 years to 2 years, but, let's run with it anyway:
So, we have 100 jobs flipping burgers or working less than 40 hours in the left hand, while in the right hand we have 80 jobs at a full 40 hours with decent pay and some bennies, and enough jobs available for the other 20 to move up to that.
According to you, the left hand is better off............

Well, dream on.
Dream about that Nobel for 'what might have been' had not an incompetent ideologue gotten the prize and the job of living up to it........
Of course, it MAY have been meant to define how he was able to get up in the 20 million bucks net worth range during those years spent screwing over the American Middle Class, and guiding it down to second place in the world....

Must be tough living with the fact that a rougher-than-a-cob political novice has so outdone what the smooth talking professional government nipple hanger-on did.....

Emile Pope

At the end of the year the stock market was always higher than the start with President Obama. Now it's lower...scoreboard!!!!

George Croix

When you still have more money, WHO CARES??!!???
Only Pope cares.....
If Straw Grasping ever becomes an Olympic sport, my money's on you to take gold.

Hey, I've got a bag of big 'ol nickels that I'll trade you for the same number of smaller dimes......
But, yours will be BIGGER so......

Have a nice thanksgiving, Pope....be thankful that we now have someone who knows how to make money for other people, not just for himself.........[beam][beam][beam]

Carlos Ponce

Emile, please examine the stocks that are the main cause of the current downturn. They are tech stocks referred to collectively as FANG stocks.
Facebook - headed by Progressive Mark Zuckerberg
Amazon - headed by Progressive Jeff Bezos.
Netflex - headed by Progressive Reed Hasings.
Google - headed by Progressive Sundar Pichai.
Only someone ignorant about the stock market would blame the president for this downturn.

Emile Pope

More excuses.

Carlos Ponce

Not an excuse but reality. Check it out.

Jim Forsythe

If you do not know about "The yield curve" you may want to read up on it , as the
yield curve has almost become inverted. This Market Indicator Predicted the Last 7 Recessions.

George Croix

Jim, if the markets tank tomorrow, millions will still have jobs they didn't have under the Food Stamp President.....so be thankful for that......
Have a nice Thanksgiving....be thankful we're retired and can 'discuss' while not worrying about something blowing up.....[smile][wink][innocent]

Jim Forsythe

George, the inverted yield curve does not care who is president, but is a indicator of what we may have to look for in the near future. This can be a indication of a recession about a year off. If you have a finical advisor you may want to talk about it to them. The yield curve is in the area where it may become inverted. If it becomes inverted, it would be a indicator of a coming recession.
********Please read the link below.*********
The stock market may be near record highs. But one of the bond market’s best-known economic indicators suggests a recession could be little more than a year away.
While the yield curve is getting flatter, suggesting economic growth is about to slow, it hasn’t actually inverted — yet.
The yield curve, which tracks the difference between 10-year and short-term rates, like the 2-year Treasury yields, has narrowed to levels not seen since August 2007.
Have a nice happy Thanksgiving.
****** http://time.com/money/5374690/inverted-yield-curve-indicator/ *******


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