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Jose' Boix

Just consider the recently posted Houston Chronicle article: “Leaders stress initiatives after Santa Fe, not stricter gun laws,” by Cayla Harris and Jasper Scherer AUSTIN BUREAU dated May 26, 2022. It includes this most significant statement: “A year after a gunman killed 10 people at Santa Fe High School in 2018, state lawmakers convened in Austin and passed the most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history.”

It is 2022, three years later, and we just had the Uvalde school district carnage. How come we have not heard anything about the “most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history”? Was it implemented? What was in the “package”? Of the 1,247 Texas school districts, how many are in compliance with “the package”? Just add your questions. This is beyond reason. Perhaps it is just political and journalistic fictional narratives. Just my thoughts.

George Croix

A five year old knows how to use a car door lock remote. And who has not been to some building or other where you did not have to get ‘buzzed in’ to get past the magnetic locks.

Mr. Stephens might consider that the best teacher on the planet needs to be alive, and live students, to teach.

Each of these events elicits an immediate call at the national level for this or that, but never for federal monies to be used for it. What better ‘pork’ for each member of Congress to put in a bill and vote into law and thus cover all our schools than monies to harden them. Better than bridges to nowhere and paying for votes. Unlike the hyperbole, any school will be safer if able to restrict unwanted entry…they do not have to be fortresses/ artillery proof. How ‘bout that infrastructure trillion or so that sure looks to be rapidly becoming kin to ‘shovel ready’ never hear about it again again.

Bailey Jones

George, we need schools to be safe for sure, but that's not going to keep our kids safe - it mostly keeps the rest of us safe from being traumatized by the evening news.

For the past 60 years, car crashes were the #1 cause of death in kids less than age 19. In 2020 (the most recent year we have good data for), guns became the leading cause. (Guns killed 4,357 U.S. children, car crashes killed 3,639.) For context, gun deaths in children are about 10% of total gun deaths in the US.

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/sites/default/files/2022-05/2020-gun-deaths-in-the-us-4-28-2022-b.pdf

The reason gun deaths are up isn't clear yet - these are mostly homicides, not accidents - but the reason car crash deaths have been dropping for years is well understood - we've made cars and car travel safer. Maybe there's a lesson there.

George Croix

Bailey, we are all in these discussions herein now as a result of Uvalde, and other school shootings, not because of children’s deaths in other venues and numbers.

Where safe is only at 100%, nothing is safe. Anywhere.

Where we avoid making one place better now because all cannot be better at the same time, we show ourselves immobilized by inability to recognize that better is, itself, good.

I do not believe that anyone considers a seat belt increases safety but a door lock doesn’t. Yet nobody is ‘safe’, immune from injury or death, with either - they are always just more safe. That’s a good thing.

The 21 dead in Uvalde would likely be alive had the very minimal measures available of functioning locked doors worked. The shooter outside fired at the school windows as he approached. Replacing the glass with proper polycarbonate would have made it safer to be inside with bullets outside. Etc etc etc.

If children in Anyplace, Kansas are killed by a nutcase who used a cutting torch to breach the outer doors and interior doors of a school and class room after a tornado wiped out the local police force and the resource officer on site had a heart attack, will we say that case of circumstances leading to failure to be ‘safe is reason for children in other schools to be exposed at a level rather easily improved.

I see no functional value for back and forth about the meaning of safe. It will always be a relevant term.

More will die as we talk about saving all, or fret over how to prevent human bad actions, rather than do what we can to mitigate results.

Imo, as always…

Bailey Jones

Well, sure, George. You could certainly have hardened that school so that those 21 people would not have died at that particular time and place. Next week when it's another grocery store or a month from now when it's another Walmart we can talk about how those particular people could have been protected at that particular time and place from that particular mass murderer. Looking forward to it.

Carlos Ponce

So Bailey is "Looking forward to it." Hopefully Bailey will be armed and take out the BAD GUY before anyone gets hurt. You'd be a HERO![beam]

George Croix

Well, Bailey, we're not talking herein the past few days about grocery stores or Walmart or anywhere else but schools....

Schools. Those places that are, with the tiniest of exceptions, gun free zones, and where our children are required by law to be during fixed schedule times each week.

They are not required by law to be at Walmart and Kroger or much of anywhere else, at any time....

We can use taxpayer funds to make taxpayer built schools safer than they are now, since we insist they be attended, and shooting them up gets a lot of press all the way to POTUS. Should be pretty easy to get the feds to commit, unless the issue itself is more important for use as a campaign fund raiser. There's 65 Billion bucks in the "Infrastructure" law passed just for high speed internet all over the country. With an emphasis on 'equity'...

Go figure.

Voting for and passing a National Schools Safety Act and Fund to put up or shut up on schools safety is ONE thing that just might get near unanimous approval, or election defeats if voted down. If state and local entities don't want the money, then bypass them. If anyone tries to scam the program and spend the bucks on anything else, invite 'em to the WH to explain, on TV, why. Parents would love to know....

Or, yet again, lets politic to ban some guns and accessories, and re-fight the Civil War and make excuses some more about that, and have a few more 'conversations' about why people do what they do.

I bet that'll work this time.

Looking forward to it.

George Croix

ps:

"The Biden administration has begun the process of replacing the names of some of the nation’s federal lands that have been deemed "derogatory."

Well, there's money for that....it's 'vital' to our 'equity' focus.....

It does show how, in American English, one can be a dumb A and a smart A all in one...

Jose' Boix

Just consider that the approved Senate Bill (SB) 11, 86th Texas Legislature (Effective 6-6-19) was described as "the most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history.”

Then, three years later (2022) the Uvalde school district carnage. Is this just political blather, perhaps an oxymoron? We just can't seem to see the "chalk marks on the board." Just beyond rational or comprehension!

Carlos Ponce

Each bit of legislation just addresses the most recent incident. The Bill specifically addressed the May 18, 2018 shootings in Santa, Texas. At the time it was "the most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history.”

Had all the measures been implemented at Ross Elementary in Uvalde ISD concerning securing entry points, that incident would not have happened. The shooter would have been stopped by a locked door.

Jose' Boix

Seems that the newspaper reported the shooter shooting a "classroom" door open. Presumably "outside doors" are capable of sustaining a barrage of shots, but not the "classroom doors."

Carlos Ponce

To get to the classroom he had to go through an outer door which should have been locked to outside entry.

"11:33 a.m. Shooter enters the school - The shooter enters the school through a back door.

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/27/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-timeline/

At 11:35 a.m. on May 24, three Uvalde Police Department officers entered the school using the same door as the shooter, which had not locked upon being closed. Law enforcement is looking into why the door did not lock.Those officers were later followed by three other Uvalde police officers and a county deputy sheriff, authorities said.

https://www.wphm.net/2022/06/10/uvalde-schools-police-chief-defends-response-to-mass-shooting-in-first-public-comments-since-massacre/

Compliance checks stipulate doors which are supposed to be locked be periodically tested. No indication he shot his way into the building.

Jose' Boix

Just consider:

1. Senate Bill 11 (SB 11) signed by Gov. Abbott June 6, 2019 “Amends the Education Code and Occupations Code to revise and expand provisions relating to a public school district or public junior college district multihazard emergency operations plan, relating to a district safety and security audit and associated report to the Texas School Safety Center, and relating to additional plan components required specifically for a school district.”

2. SB 11 was deemed “the most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history.”

3. Three years later, the May 24, 2022, Uvalde’s Robb Elementary School massacre.

We must ask:

• How can SB 11 be construed as “the most comprehensive school safety package?

• How did the noted 1,247 public school districts in Texas acted as result of SB 11?

• Locally, how specifically the eight Galveston County ISDs acted and/or benefitted from SB 11?

Seems that the results – or actions – sadly are speaking louder than the words! Just my thoughts!

Jose' Boix

Just consider these facts:

• “A year after a gunman killed 10 people at Santa Fé High School in 2018, state lawmakers convened in Austin and passed the most comprehensive school safety package in modern Texas history” - Senate Bill 11 signed by Gov. Abbott 06/06/2019. Reference: “Leaders stress initiatives after Santa Fe, not stricter gun laws,” by Cayla Harris and Jasper Scherer AUSTIN BUREAU, May 26, 2022.

• May 24, 2022, three years later; the horrific Uvalde’s Robb Elementary School massacre.

• The Santa Fé High School shooter was a fully armed student who entered the school building as a normal student and proceeded to a selected classroom.

• The Uvalde’s Robb Elementary School shooter was also fully armed and entered the school building using an exterior access door and also proceeded to a selected classroom.

What seems simply obvious:

• State legislative developed strategies do not seem to work. Such continuing approach with the added Federal legislators’ initiatives, does not seem that it will result in another comprehensive school safety package.

• School safety initiatives are best developed, implemented and administered/enforced when innately borne. However, such initiatives and strategies must be the result of critical root cause analysis (RCA) using the past events.

The proverbial “ball in in our” local independent school districts’ (ISDs) court. The energy and direction resting with our elected school board trustees. We cannot wait until the next carnage! Just my thoughts!

Carlos Ponce

"State legislative developed strategies do not seem to work."

Someone In Uvalde ISD did not make certain the building was secure from outside threats. Egress into the building should have been stopped by a LOCKED door.... but the lock was not working. Was maintenance put on hold until Summer break? The problem lies within the school district itself, not with the law.

From Texas SB11 signed by Governor Abbott:

"each school district or public junior college district shall conduct a safety and security audit of the district’s facilities. To the extent possible, a district shall follow safety and security audit procedures developed by the Texas School Safety Center or a person included in the registry established by the Texas School Safety Center under Section 37.2091 ...."

Ted Gillis

Quoting from a state statute doesn’t bring back the lives of 21 people Carlos. That’s no better than the old “Thoughts and Prayers” comment.

Ford Motor Company would have been laughed out of court if their defense was that the person driving the car behind the Pinto caused their product to explode on impact.

Carlos Ponce

The problem doesn't lie with the legislation but those in Uvalde ISD who did not carry it out.

Jose' Boix

The proverbial “ball in in our” local independent school districts’ (ISDs) court. The energy and direction resting with our elected school board trustees. We cannot wait until the next carnage! Just my thoughts!

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