The insurrection in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 left much of the country stunned, with many people pointing to President Donald Trump as the source of the rioting.

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(52) comments

Bailey Jones

I prefer that he resign. I'd like every school child from now on to be looking through the photos of the presidents and ask their teacher, "why was Pence president for only 7 days?"

My second choice would be impeachment by the house, followed by a decision not to pursue a trial in the senate. Our nation has suffered enough because of this man. (Before writing this I was just thinking, it feels like every Sunday for the last 4 years America has said to itself, OK, it's a new week - let's try this again.) I want to never hear his name again. And I don't want to waste the new administration's precious time listening to vitriol in the senate. (The present Senate could knock a trial out in a few days - we saw how quickly they confirmed Amy Coney Barrett - but McConnell won't do it, so it would have to wait for the next Senate.)

If he cared about the nation at all, he would resign. He would save the nation the inevitable ugliness that is sure to come with impeachment.

Why impeachment? It's simple. In 2019 the democrats impeached the president. Every republican in congress said, "We don't need impeachment to remove the president. Wait for the election and let the people render their verdict." Well, the people did render their verdict, and the president was defeated. And then those very same Republicans said, "We don't accept that result. We don't believe that our president could possibly have been defeated."

This - all of this - is the result of the president's lies, incompetence, and narcissistic self-interest. Had he conceded after the election we wouldn't be here. Had he conceded after all 50 states had certified their results we wouldn't be here. Had he conceded after all of his court challenges had failed we wouldn't be here. Had he not called his followers to attend a "wild" protest, we wouldn't be here. Had he not told his followers to march to the Capitol we wouldn't be here. Had he conceded last Wednesday, on the day that Congress was certifying the will of the American people, we wouldn't be here. Instead, he told a crowd of thousands, "We will never give up. We will never concede."

And so, here we are. 10 more days to go. It's a new week, America - let's try this again.

Carlos Ponce

No impeachment, no removal, no resignation. Liberals keep saying he instigated the onslaught in his speech but a look at the speech and transcript show he did not. That's the problem with Liberal group think - they accept the party line without verifying whether it's true or not. I posted this several days ago but still no one can find it. "BUT WE KNOW WHAT HE MEANT!!!!!" No you do not. Not even Kreskin knows. Here's the transcript again:

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6

Read it, don't blindly accept what the Leftist media is telling you.

Craig Mason

The blood of five people are on trump’s tiny hands. Ted Cruz and Hawley bear some responsibility as well. All three are embarrassments to the offices they hold.

Carlos Ponce

Craig Mason, blaming Trump Patriots for the unfortunate deaths of five citizens, one of which was a Trump Patriot is undignified.

The Senators you name did the EXACT same thing Nancy Pelosi did when in 2005 when she contested the Electors from the State of Ohio. Do you find her an embarrassment? Or are you being a hypocrite? She called it "Democracy at work".

https://www.c-span.org/video/?185005-2/debate-ohio-electoral-vote-objection

January 6, 2005, 32:57:

THE SPEAKER: THE GENTLELADY IS RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES.

MS. PELOSI: THANK YOU, MR. SPEAKER. MR. SPEAKER, TODAY WE ARE WITNESSING DEMOCRACY AT WORK. THIS ISN'T AS SOME OF OUR REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES HAVE REFERRED TO IT SADLY AS FRIVOLOUS. THIS DEBATE IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR DEMOCRACY. THE REPRESENTS -- REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THIS HOUSE ARE STANDING UP FOR THREE FUNDAMENTAL AMERICAN BELIEFS. THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS SACRED. THAT A REPRESENTATIVE HAS A DUTY TO REPRESENT HIS OR HER CONSTITUENTS. AND THAT THE RULE OF LAW IS THE HALLMARK OF OUR NATION. AND UNDER THE RULE OF LAW TODAY THIS HOUSE WILL ACCEPT THE ELECTION OF PRESIDENT BUSH AND VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY AS PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THIS ISN'T ABOUT IN ANY WAY REJECTING THAT OUTCOME. SO PLEASE LET'S BE RESPECTFUL OF EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS ABOUT. TODAY'S ELECTORAL CHALLENGE IS NOT INTENDED TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION. IT IS INSTEAD TO DISCUSS THE REAL PROBLEMS WITH OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM AND THE FAILINGS OF THE PROCESS IN OHIO AND ELSEWHERE. IT IS ABOUT ELECTION REFORM NOT ABOUT THE ELECTION RESULTS -- RESULT. THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO HAVE BROUGHT THIS CHALLENGE ARE SPEAKING UP FOR THEIR AGGRIEVED CONSTITUENTS, MANY OF WHOM MAY HAVE BEEN DISENFRANCHISED IN THIS PROCESS. THIS IS THEIR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO THIS HAVE DEBATE WHILE THE COUNTRY IS LISTENING. AND IT IS APPROPRIATE TO DO SO. IF THERE WERE OTHER VENUES OF THIS CALIBER, WE WOULD HAVE TAKEN THAT OPPORTUNITY. BUT THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR DEMOCRACY. A DISCUSSION OF THAT FOUNDATION AGAIN SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED FRIVOLOUS. AS THE SUPREME COURT NOTED, NO RIGHT IS MORE FRESHES IN A FREE COUNTRY THAN THAT OF HAVING A VOICE IN THE ELECTION OF THOSE WHO MAKE THE LAWS UNDER WHICH AS GOOD CITIZENS WE MUST LIVE. OTHER RIGHTS, EVEN THE MOST BASIC, ARE ILLUSORY IF THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS UNDERMINED. I REPEAT, OTHER RIGHTS, EVEN THE MOST BASIC, ARE ILLUSORY IF THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS UNDERMINED. THE PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE IS SACRED IN OUR COUNTRY AND WE MUST DO EVERYTHING TO UPHOLD IT. YET MORE THAN 225 YEARS SINCE OUR FOUNDING THERE ARE STILL LEGITIMATE CONCERNS OVER THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS AND OF ENSURING THE PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE THAT EVERY PERSON HAS ACCESS TO VOTING AND THAT EVERY VOTE WILL BE COUNTED. 20 YEARS AGO I WAS CHAIR OF THE CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IT WAS OUR FUNCTION, IT WAS OUR PURPOSE TO REMOVE OBSTACLES OF PARTICIPATION TO VOTING. THE GREATER RESPONSIBILITY OF COURSE WAS WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, IN OUR STATE AND STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHO CONTROLLED THE ELECTIONS IN THE STATE. BUT WE ALL, ALL OF OUR CAPACITIES HAD A RESPONSIBILITY TO REMOVE NOT THROW UP OBSTACLES TO PARTICIPATION. I KNOW THAT THIS ISSUE IS NOT JUST ABOUT COUNTING VOTES, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL THREE PHASES. BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER THE ELECTION. AND IN ALL THREE PHASES THERE WERE PROBLEMS IN THIS ELECTION IN OHIO AND ELSEWHERE. BEFORE THE ELECTION THERE WERE COMPLAINTS ABOUT ABSENTEE BALLOTS THAT WERE REQUESTED BUT DID NOT ARRIVE. THERE WERE REPORTS OF REGISTRATION PROBLEMS AND OF IMPROPER PURGING OF THE VOTING ROLLS. AND THE OHIO SECRETARY OF STATE MADE DECISIONS ABOUT PROVISIONAL BALLOTS, PARTISAN POLL WATCHERS, AND PAPER REQUIREMENTS FOR REGISTRATION FORMS THAT SOME FOUND QUESTIONABLE. LEADING TO WIDESPREAD CONFUSION AND POSSIBLE DISENFRANCHISEMENT. DURING THE ELECTION WE KNOW THAT THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH VOTING MACHINES IN POOR AND MINORITY AREAS. THIS IS A FACT. YET THERE WERE SUFFICIENT MACHINES IN WEALTHIER AREAS. THIS LED TO APPALLINGLY LONG WAIT TIMES OF UP TO 10 HOURS IN CERTAIN PLACES. YOU CAN DENY IT ALL YOU WANT, BUT IT IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD THAT THIS IS A FACT AND THAT THIS IS WRONG. THERE WERE CREDIBLE REPORTS OF VOTER SUPPRESSION ON ELECTION DAY THROUGH INTIMIDATION AND MISINFORMATION. AND THE PATCHWORK USE OF PROVISIONAL BALLOTS LED TO UNEQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW. UNEQUAL TREATMENT UNDER THE LAW UNDERMINING THE PRINCIPLE OF ONE PERSON, ONE VOTE. AND EQUAL PROTECTION. AS FOR AFTER THE ELECTION, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT EVERY VOTE LEGALLY CAST WILL BE LEGALLY COUNTED AND ACCURATELY COUNTED. BUT CONSTANTLY SHIFTING VOTE TALLIES IN OHIO AND MALFUNCTIONING ELECTRONIC MACHINES WHICH MAY NOT HAVE PAPER RECEIPTS HAVE LED TO ADDITIONAL LOSS OF CONFIDENCE BY THE PUBLIC. AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, WE HAVE A SOLEMN RESPONSIBILITY TO IMPROVE OUR ELECTION SYSTEM AND ITS ADMINISTRATION. WE CANNOT BE HERE AGAIN FOUR YEARS FROM NOW DISCUSSING THE FAILINGS OF THE 2008 ELECTION. WE MUST WORK WITH THE ELECTIONS ASSISTANCE COMMISSION TO FURTHER REFORM THE ELECTION PROCESS AND WE MUST PASS LEGISLATION TO IMPROVE THE HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT. INCLUDING UNIVERSAL STANDARD FOR PROVISIONAL BALLOTS AND STRONG VERIFICATION MEASURES AND PAPER TRAILS. I WANT TO COMMEND MR. NEY, THE DISTINGUISHED CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE, FOR HIS LEADERSHIP IN HELPING TO PASS THE HAVA ACT WHICH WAS REALLY WHERE WE ARE PINNING OUR HOPES, MR. NEY. AND TO MR. HOYER, WHO SERVED IN THAT CAPACITY WITH YOU, AND NOW IN THE SENATE, OTHERS, BROADER ARRAY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE WEIGHING IN ON THAT. CONGRESS MUST SEIZE THE OPPORTUNITY THIS YEAR TO RE-AUTHORIZE THE ACT AND TO MAKE THE NEEDED REFORMS AND IMPROVEMENTS. OUR VERY DEMOCRACY DEPENDS AGAIN ON THE CONFIDENCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM. SO MY COLLEAGUES, PLEASE DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS ABOUT A CONSPIRACY THEORY. IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT. IT'S NOT ABOUT CONSPIRACY. IT'S ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. GEORGE PUSH AND -- GEORGE BUSH AND DICK CHENEY ARE THE ELECTED PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THAT WILL BE -- THE OBJECTION WILL BE I THINK OVERRULED TODAY IN THAT REGARD. IT'S NEVER BEEN ABOUT THAT. IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLE OF OUR LEGITIMACY, OF OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS. CONGRESS WILL RESOLVE THIS DISPUTE TODAY AND WE WILL ALL ABIDE BY THE RESULT BECAUSE WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS. AMERICA IS A BEACON OF DEMOCRACY TO THE WORLD. WE MUST NEVER FORGET THE POWER OF OUR OWN EXAMPLE TO THOSE WHO ASPIRE TO FREEDOM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. SO LET'S RESPECT THIS DEBATE TODAY FOR WHAT IT IS, ABOUT ENSURING THE FOUNDATION OF OUR VERY OWN DEMOCRACY AND BY SENDING A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD THAT WE ARE TRULY, TRULY PROTECTIVE OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND THAT WE HONOR THE OATH OF OFFICE THAT WE TAKE TO PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. I URGE MY COLLEAGUES ALL TO JOIN TOGETHER IN A BIPARTISAN WAY FOR ELECTORAL REFORM TO FOLLOW ON THE GOOD WORK I MENTIONED OF MR. NEY EARLIER, AND MR. HOYER, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT FOUR YEARS FROM NOW WE WILL COME TOGETHER NOT HAVING TO HAVE THIS KIND OF DEBATE. BUT THAT TODAY'S DEBATE WILL SERVE THE PURPOSE IT IS INTENDED TO HAVE FOR OUR COUNTRY.

Craig Mason

Yes I find her embarrassing as well. No one died when that happened though!

Carlos Ponce

Look at the deaths: Trump Patriot Ashli Babbitt, 35 killed by Capitol Police.

One Police officer - Brian Sicknick killed by person unknown, unknown political affiliation. Could have been one of the Antifa gang. We don't know.

Three killed by health related causes. Perhaps the stress.

Trump Patriot Kevin Greeson, 55, with a history of high blood pressure.

Trump Patriot Benjamin Phillips, 50, a computer programmer from Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania, who organized a bus of Trump supporters traveling from his state to D.C. for the protest, died after suffering a stroke.

Trump Patriot Rosanne Boyland, 34 year old died of an unknown medical emergency.

So of the five, FOUR were Trump Patriots. And we do not know the identity of the person who killed the officer. And you want to blame the Trump Patriots???? ABSURD!

Leonard Hale

They do not seem to be the EXACT same thing, quite to the contrary. She seems to be talking about making changes prior to the next election. Our Senator Cruz called for not accepting electoral college votes while a commission audits the election. Senator Hawley called for flatly not accepting two States electoral votes, a meaningless gesture other than to further incite a mob. As a Republican I am shocked at how we have allowed Donald Trump and his family to run shotgun over the GOP and carry on with his rally antics for four years, but much more so with this "Stop the Steel" charade. We have a constitution and a legal system to adjudicate these issues. It was open to them, and they failed to prove up their case. End of story, we do not have a government open to mob rule. Anyone continuing to support this cause, or these persons should not be taken seriously.

Carlos Ponce

Leonard, it's STOP the STEAL, not STOP the STEEL.

Craig Mason

Once again Carlos you make my point for me by naming the deceased. Quit being a Q A Moron and just accept reality. Trump lost Biden won.

Carlos Ponce

Craig Mason, I will NEVER concede to Satan!

Stuart Crouch

Mr. Ponce, your inappropriate use of the of the word "patriot" only serves to profane the honor and regard of those truly deserving of such a descriptor. The only patriots at the Capitol that day were some of the law enforcement and military personnel. Your apparent support of such an egregious deed is as saddening as it is chilling.

Carlos Ponce

Stuart, those you mention are patriots but that title is not just for them. There were many problems during the last election. These individuals I label as Patriots are standing up for the rule of law. If they broke the rule of law in that effort they will be dealt with. But an equal or even greater infringement was done by those who circumvented a legal election process. And there is proof. Closing your eyes to that proof as many in authority have done is wrong.

Jim Forsythe

Arnold Schwarzenegger knows from personal experience that what Trump did was dangerous for the USA. Some people will continue to make excuses for the inexcusable. Please read the message from Arnold Schwarzenegger posted in the next post.. As there are many good GOP people that could be President, ask yourself, if you are Trump supporter, why chase this failed man that can not and will not ever be the person we need.

Jim Forsythe

Arnold Schwarzenegger denounced "failed leader" Donald Trump and his role in encouraging the Capitol riots this week while asking for unity in the days ahead.

The former Governor of California released a video message on Sunday comparing the events of Jan. 6, when Trump's far-right supporters stormed the Capitol, to Kristallnacht, or "The Night of Broken Glass," in 1938 during which the Nazis began their ascent into power that would end with approximately six million Jews dead.

Schwarzenegger, who was born in Austria two years after the end of World War II, compared the Proud Boys, an all-male organization consisting of far-right Trump supporters who actively engage in political violence, to the Nazis and accused them of "trampling the very principles on which our country was founded."

"Growing up, I was surrounded by broken men drinking away the guilt over their participation in the most evil regime in history," he said in the video. "Not all of them were evil anti-semites or Nazis. Many just went along step-by-step down the road. They were the people next door."

He painfully recalls what remained of men like his father after the war, who would come home drunk to lash out against their families, both verbally and physically, because of what they had witnessed and/or participated in during Hitler's reign. Though he doesn't believe the United States will end in such melee, the action star warns Trump's actions should not be downplayed.

"President Trump sought to overturn the results of an election and of a fair election," Schwarzenegger, who is Republican, continued. "He sought a coup by misleading people with lies. My father and our neighbors were misled also with lies, and I know where such lies lead. President Trump is a failed leader. He will go down in history as the worst president ever. The good thing is he will soon be as irrelevant as an old Tweet."

Following the insurrection Trump and his allies have unleashed on the United States, Schwarzenegger calls for accountability of everyone involved and those who continue to push for more violent disruptions.

"But what are we to make of those elected officials who have enabled his lies and his treachery?" he asks. "I will remind them of what Teddy Roosevelt said, 'Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the President.'"

He adds, "We need to look past ourselves, our parties, and disagreements and put our democracy first. And we need to heal, together, from the drama of what's just happened. We need to heal, not just as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans.

Amid threats of further disruptions, Schwarzenegger celebrated President-elect Joe Biden, who is set to be inaugurated on Jan. 20.

Carlos Ponce

Arnold's post is based on a false premise. Even Bailey Jones identified a man, John Sullivan, who is a known anti-Trump activist who was next to Air Force veteran Ashli Babbitt as she was shot why entering the Capitol.The idea that it was all Trump Patriots who entered the Capitol is false.

Charles Douglas

Arnold who? What the [censored] does Arnold know and what has he contributed? Oh, he is that body-builder on steroids who can't talk fluent English! Got-Ya!

Wayne D Holt

So much wrong here from Ah-nohld. Where to start...

The comparison of the Proud Boys to the brownshirts conveniently leaves out the other half of the picture: that would be the Reds who swarmed into Germany in the middle of the social decay of defeat and hyperinflation after WWI. They were there to do what they were attempting to do in other vulnerable places and that is to foment revolution. The Proud Boys may or may not be the heirs of the brownshirts but if they are, Antifa is absolutely the heirs of the Bolsheviks who infested Germany at that time. Antifa's banners are near copies of the revolutionary regalia flown by them and it is chilling to see the street brawls now; it looks exactly like the running battles between the brownshirts and Reds.

Next, Schwarzenegger equates the impromptu bloviating of Trump with the ideologically precise propaganda of a Goebbels or Hitler. Naming this an "insurrection" shows the utter imbecility of it all; people crowding into the Capitol and wandering around taking selfies for the most part, versus many billions of dollars of damage, death, injury and destruction during the summer's Days of Bling Filled Rage mostly peaceful demonstrations. The hypocrisy is nauseating, whether it comes from a talking airhead or an Austrian weight lifter gone Hollywood.

"We need to heal, not just as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans." Well, that would receive a really super fantastic boost if the biggest corporations in America weren't at this very moment doing everything in their power to hijack the rights of free speech of the half of the country that didn't vote for Uncle Joe. The Left is absolutely top notch when it comes to painting idyllic images of what America could be like. Unfortunately, the reality of their iron grip of coercion, and the toxic admixture of state and corporate cancel culture, keeps getting in the way.

Jim Forsythe

The rebellion that took place inside a government building in rural Northern California happened the day before the violent siege of the U.S. Capitol by supporters of President Trump.

The Shasta County Board of Supervisors had planned to meet virtually Jan. 5 because of an uptick in coronavirus cases. The supervisors’ chambers in Redding were closed. Seats had been removed. The public speakers’ microphone was disabled.

But, in protest, a newly elected supervisor unlocked the doors. In poured dozens of people, unmasked, to vent their fury. Three supervisors attending virtually watched from afar as threats flew amid the speeches.

“When Joe Biden’s long winter sets and the dark night comes in this country, do you think you’re going to get to see the dawn?” Timothy Fairfield, 44, of Shingletown asked the supervisors. “No, you will not. Flee now while you can. Because the days of your tyranny are drawing to a close, and the legitimacy of this government is waning.

“When the ballot box is gone,” he added, “there is only the cartridge box. You have made bullets expensive. But luckily for you, ropes are reusable.”

Wayne D Holt

It would be high humor if you weren't serious about this. A "rebellion" when a few dozen people who were unmasked--oh, the horror!--poured into a public meeting they had been locked out of, with threats flying you say. They were there to "vent their fury."

Jim, give us a couple of quotes you published here on these boards when city neighborhoods were going up in flames, people were being dragged from their cars and beaten senseless, entire shopping districts were stripped bare of their merchandise...and the Democratic leadership said more was needed to root out the white supremacy that is supreme only in a political mind that benefits from the chaos. Please quote the time you called it an insurrection, a rebellion, a massive venting of fury. Or is simple mass rioting and looting much to be preferred because it is driven by either mindless destruction or simple greed? Perhaps you feel when citizens are fed up with the denial of redress of grievances it is inferior to good old fashioned mayhem by those whose political interest doesn't go much beyond snagging a wall sized TV.

Virginia Stone

He needs to resign or be removed now, today because I'm afraid of having this mad man and his proud boys and Qanon and other mixed hate groups doing more harm to the American people.

Jim Forsythe

Virginia, you are right, but Trump will not resign, he will be impeached.

Fewer and fewer people are making excuses for Trump. People that work at the Whitehouse are leaving the sinking ship.

The reason they are leaving, they have had enough . Also the reason his Cabinet is leaving, they do not want to have to vote on the Twenty-fifth Amendment, if this goes that way, to get Trump out. The way Trump has treated Pence has made the chance the Pence would Pardon Trump, if Trump resigned, remote.

Carlos Ponce

Put your noose away, Jim. There will be no lynching.

Bailey Jones

A few Republicans are leaving the sinking rat ship. It's started with real conservatives who rejected #worstpresidentever on Day 1, 2016. Then more and more left during his administration. Many left public service just to avoid him. Now that he's undeniably a clear and present danger to the republic, a few congress peeps who have ignored and excused his leadership failures over the years have found enough character to call for his resignation. More will join the call, as they see the winds of public opinion changing and do that cynical political calculation. The hardcore - that 30% or so of congress (and America) who lack the ability to distinguish between fact and conspiratorial fantasy will never leave. The real question for the Republican Party is, I think, not so much who else is going to throw Trump under the bus, but who is going to lead the party? Will the Republican Party remain the home of Trumpism, or will they put principle ahead of the cult of personality? Is the future Adam Kinzinger, or Josh Hawley?

Carlos Ponce

Wrong, Bailey. The real Conservatives are sticking with him.

Charles Douglas

I understand your feelings, ..I have some myself! I'm petrified of have an ex KKK MEMBER, who idolized, supported, was mentored by, and who eulogized the GRAND CYCLOPS OF THE WHITE KNIGHTS known as the KU KLUX KLAN, .......as President of the United States.

If one wants to talk about danger to this nation, we ought to start right there! This guy has four years to DESTROY & SELL- OUT America, juxtaposed to the 7-8 days the other individual has who you are so afraid of.

Virginia Stone

Charles> Yes, Biden among others eulogized Byrd, and yup there are only a few more days of Trump's presidency, and yes, Trump his family members, and other supporters to the President have encouraged rally attendees to violent acts during his presidency. The insurrection on the US capital was just the latest and prayerfully his last use of hateful and un-American language and writings to harm or encourage others to harm, it is because of his regular use of violent speech and writings I fear him and you fear Biden for being one of many who believed Byrd when he said he had regrets for his affiliation with the KKK in the mid-20th century, maybe Biden had forgiven Byrd. I don't know what the president is capable of doing, he is dangerous, and needs removing.

Carlos Ponce

"Trump his family members, and other supporters to the President have encouraged rally attendees to violent acts during his presidency." FALSE.

But we did hear the following:

"Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.” - Maxine Waters

And now where's the PROOF of YOUR allegation??????? If you don't produce any, we understand because you fabricated it.

Charles Douglas

Ms. Stone! There are a lot of accusations and false charges being perpetuated against Trump because of venomous hatredness for the man! However, all these sweet to the ears charges are going to have to be proven according to the law for him to be convicted by the law! So lets see here: What are the elements of a crime, & which of those elements did President Trump break or transgress during that day in question, Or are we going to put him on trial for every wrong he has committed EVER?

Charles Douglas

It is apparent that We " Trump Patriots" are not ready to see this man railroaded by the SWAMP!!!!!

Carlos Ponce

Trump haters are being gaslighted. Read what people who were at the Capitol saw:

https://ifapray.org/blog/what-i-witnessed-in-washington-on-january-6/

Virginia Stone

Carlos google (Trump encouraging rally attendees to violently deal with people who did not support him)

Carlos Ponce

I don't "google". But on web searches all that turns up is hyperbole, exaggeration, out of context statements and lies.

Virginia Stone

typical

Carlos Ponce

It was truthful.

David Hardee

Among the many achievements that can be directly attributed to Trump's single-handed making happen there is one most un-noticed and which has produced a lingering effect, that never would have been accomplished by any of the self-serving politicians who lurk in the federal swamp,

That most un-noticed accomplishment is that Trump so irritated the swamp creatures they expose themselves as the real degenerates that have corrupted what was a Great America. Though many did not like the way he did it, Trump generated a revolution. Our society will eventually realize this revolution gave “we the people” an opportunity to identify and purge the swamp and re-capture the mores and the culture we surrendered to the nanny state of the progressive liberals.

As to the survey, it will be a true act of transparency and integrity if every member of Dailey News would post their vote for the public to see positively whether bias exists in our local media.

David

Bailey Jones

You call it a revolution, I call it an insurrection.

Charles Douglas

So! Where are we going with this Mr.Jones ...in your opinion? Does this means war? Seems to me where hate has risen beyond the boiling point of reconciliation and reform, when half the nation is shutting off the livelihood, freedoms, and progress of the other half, then war is climbing up the other side of the mountain, unseen by blind eyes! What do you think Mr. Jones?

Charles Douglas

And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, " Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." ( Matthew 12:25 ). Abraham Lincoln and others learned this the hard way. Seem like THE HARD WAY is the only way! I had a Co-worker from Trinity, Texas tell me so many years ago this, and I never forgot it, " You can't teach some folks nothing, and they won't let you LEARN'EM a [censored]...THANG!"

Bailey Jones

I don't think we're headed for war, Charles. I say that because I believe that good people like you don't want war. I certainly don't. And because those who do are a tiny minority of our population. My hope is that now - after this shock to the system - the leadership of the Republican Party and responsible conservative media will tell the people the truth about the election and put an end to this nonsense.

The president's lies about the election are fueling all of this. Until those lies are put to rest by political and media leaders that the most conservative part of the country will believe they will continue to believe that their nation was stolen from them - and that is the most dangerous idea imaginable - because the only remedy for it is violent conflict.

Some leaders are doing the right thing. I tune in to Fox News (the news part) from time to time to see how they are covering things and I see that they are reporting the truth - that there is no evidence that the election was stolen, and that this insurrection was led by right wing extremists. I'm seeing Republican leaders - Adam Kinzinger, Chris Christie, Colin Powell, John Cornyn, etc., speaking the truth loud and clear. Ted Cruz could be a huge help if only he would. I know that the first stage of grief is denial. I'm hopeful that as time passes more and more people will come to realize how they've been played and betrayed by this president and the radicals on the far right.

I don't know how to convince you and others about the truth. When I read the transcript of the Georgia phone call it just seems so obvious to me that he president is quoting Internet BS while the Republicans who actually ran the election are speaking fact - based on real information and real investigation. I would ask everyone who still believes the president to simply read the transcript or watch the video with an open and critical mind, and determine for themselves which is the more credible voice - the guy with a decades long history of lying, or the Republican Secretary of State who's just doing his job under the watchful eye of a Republican governor who is one of the president's biggest supporters. Once you can see that the president is lying here, maybe you can see that he is lying everywhere.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-georgia-phone-call-transcript-brad-raffensperger-recording

James C.

Bailey Jones writes "The president's lies about the election are fueling all of this. Until those lies are put to rest by political and media leaders that the most conservative part of the country will believe they will continue to believe that their nation was stolen from them - and that is the most dangerous idea imaginable - because the only remedy for it is violent conflict."

Mr. Jones, I believe you are mistaken when you say President Trump's lies are fueling this. President Trump could come out today and say "I've lied and and Mr. Biden is the legitimate winner of the 2020 election." It would not change my mind in the slightest. In case you are interested, from my perspective the last four years were filled with non-stop attempts to remove Trump from office and obstruct him at every turn. I believe that is indisputable. So why would the election be any different? It makes perfect sense to expect his opponents to do everything in their power to make sure he is not re-elected. Combine that with many 'problems' (mail-in ballots, ballot collection boxes/harvesting, etc.) surrounding the election and you can see why so many people do not believe Joe Biden is a legitimate president. I would venture to guess that most Trump supporters believe the Democrats were willing to do *anything* to prevent him from being re-elected. FWIW.

Bailey Jones

I appreciate your honesty, James. And I agree with you that many feel exactly as you do. The question is, what is your next move?

David Hardee

Some distinction you conjure up because one happens at the Capitol and the others at private businesses, etc. Best you stop trying to nitpick and the realm is bigger than the parts you and most enjoy flogging each other with or eventually you may find the effects at your house. Far off and getting closer thunder and lightning mean a storm is approaching. These similar alerts we are seeing and hearing from distant places. These warnings should cause seeking of remedies and not more squabbling over which caused what did happen. This thread of comments is nothing but a twin to the jabber between CNN and FOX as they challenge each other with self-serving hyperbole. They feed y'all and y'all parrot them. When we turn them (media) off and unite in attacking the media (cable, Facebook, Twitter, etc.) for bastardizing the facts with slanted and titillating presentations the public can calm and clearly deliberate their differences, reasonably.

E Pluibus Unum, Again, hopefully!

James C.

Mr. Bailey, I am not a violent person and am loathe to see the zealots fomenting unrest. But I have committed to push back harder than ever against the establishment politicians, biased media, and big tech censorship. It will not be pleasant, I'm sure, but it is a principled position that I feel compelled to defend.

Bailey Jones

The only non-violent approach is the constitutional approach - vetting all allegations of fraud through the courts. Would you accept the verdict of the courts?

Carlos Ponce

And if the courts refuse to listen in an obvious political move?

James C.

Too many activist judges for me to give you a yes or no answer on that and unfortunately there is little to be done at this point. Mr. Biden will take The Oval Office. But I will say once more Mr. Jones, I do not advocate for violence. Please stop bringing that up, at least in your replies to me. It is not appropriate. Thank you.

But I believe your premise is flawed and that there are other non-violent approaches that can be taken to ensure we never have another election like this again. For one, and foremost, I pray. I will continue to vote. I will continue call out hypocrisy whenever and wherever I see it. I will encourage others to do so. And I will speak out whenever I see the establishment grabbing for more and more power at the expense of individual liberties. I know this comes with the discomfort of having people hate me and call me names because they disagree with my opinions. The tone of discussions on this board make that clear. But I must develop a tougher skin and stand up for what I believe is right: free and verifiable elections, return of ethical journalism, and a court system that prioritizes defending The Constitution as written.

Bailey Jones

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Gary Scoggin

It's time to move on. Biden needs to start his term with as clean of a slate as possible. This includes not having the Senate in a hangover trying to deal with an impeachment trial. Let's prosecute the law breakers who entered the Capitol and put Trump in the rearview mirror giving his as small of a profile as we can. Don't let him own any of our mental real estate and let history be the judge.

Bailey Jones

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Ted Gillis

Bailey, I tuned into Fox News the other day, just to get different news report on the Capital riots. I first had to listen to a bit about “The Squad”, and then a report about North Korea, and then another report about Gavin Newsom attending that party before Christmas at a fancy French restaurant without wearing a mask, that’s before I even heard the first thing about the capital riots.

Bailey Jones

Oh yeah, I had to sit through a retrospective on the Atlanta bomber for some reason. But when they do talk about it, they're straightforward and united in their reporting. (On the other hand, you're hard-pressed to find a story other than insurrection and pandemic on CNN or MSNBC. NPR is always my go-to for intelligent, balanced, news coverage.)

Susan Smith

The stupidity on this post is amazing. Thank you, Carlos for having more sense than all of them combined. Mark

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