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Since Galveston County started sending deputies to the U.S.-Mexico border last summer, officials have reported apprehending more than 2,000 migrants and arresting more than 400.

Keri Heath: 409-683-5241; keri.heath@galvnews.com or on Twitter @HeathKeri.

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Charles Douglas

[thumbup][thumbup][thumbup][thumbup] Great Job, Our country is worth it!

Carlos Ponce

Thank you Keri Heath for the article. It highlights people we know from Galveston County and their efforts to stop crime before it gets here. CRIME PREVENTION is good. Thank you Sheriff Trochessett, thank you constables!

Ed Buckner

The immigration brouhaha is full of misinformation, grandstanding, stunts, and spin. If you want a factual review (including some history) and a better grasp of the complexity involved, read today's free blog post by Heather Cox Richardson, distinguished historian--Letters from an American--https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-16-2022

But only if facts interest you, of course.

C. Patterson

Says you and Kamala Harris the Boarder Tsar who actually never been to the Boarder with the exception of a photo op. Talk about the big lie! This is the big lie and you deniers are either willfully ignorant or Democrat tribalist clapping seals propagating more and more lies because … that’s all you’ve got. YOU CAN’T RUN A CAMPAIGN ON DEMOCRAT SUCCESS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANY that’s the spin, let’s create distractions because the truth is hideous. Let me give you a hint IMMIGRATION AND INFLATION are the top 2 issues on voters minds from every balanced poll. Why are millions of immigrants from a 150 Countries walking across our boarder, unvetted, unchecked and flown all over the country in the dead of night at the direction of the President curtesy of the tax payer? Est. 4 + million by the time he leaves office if not impeached beforehand.What purpose does this serve? To propagate a new voting class so they can stay in power and continue to rob us blind with more military complexes over seas, spending 1.1 Trillion on the taxpayers back that WAS NEVER APPROVED BY CONGRESS? Continue to sell off our Strategic Petroleum Reserves to our enemy also NOT APPROVED BY CONGRESS with just enough into our economy to tamp down soaring gas prices at least until midterms and then watch out. The same reserves that orange man bad filled to capacity at $30 a barrel! Those reserves are for our protection, they belong to us the taxpayers and you know it! It’s criminal what he’s doing but just keep spinning..

What’s happening at our southern boarder is a travesty of epic proportions. Millions coming across, about a thousand deaths, child trafficking, 70% of young girls are raped along the way multiple times…(they’re sent with morning after pills ,sick sick sick), human smuggling and fentanyl at all time highs now THE NUMBER ONE CAUSE OF DEATH BETWEEN 18-44

The Cartel are in complete control of our southern boarder and that clown that resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. has complete surrendered our sovereignty on the southern boarder which is a dereliction of duty. He took an oath to serve and protect.

Stop with the lies and misrepresentations… the American people feel it every time the go to the grocery store, or out to dinner or god forbid open the electric bill. Inflation is at a 40 year high and interest rates which SHOULD go down to counter the high inflation are also at 2008 levels and the fed chair is going to need to go at least 2 point HIGHER to control this inflation. You know what’s NOT going up? Social Security Checks so millions are facing financial hardships with less money. 20 Million Americans are at least 1 month behind on their electric bill…Sure as hell wasn’t that way when Trump was President and you can’t blame this on him.

Biden with in the 2nd day in office cancelled nearly every executive order Trump had put in place to that created the energy independence we enjoyed for the first time in this countries history and now we buy from Canada, Mexico,Saudi and Russia at a higher price? Why? We’re sitting on an Ocean of Oil and don’t give me the spin about the environment because what difference is it if we produce ourselves or buy and place on polluting ships to send here? Again makes no sense. Why did he cancel the remain in Mexico Policy and blow open the boarder and return to catch and release? These 2 things alone have had devastating consequences…

Ed Buckner

I think, C. Patterson, et al., you'd be better served and sound wiser if you relied on actual facts, not political spin (from either side, though much of it on here is right-wing spin.

C. Patterson

I quite certain I have the receipts , which point do you doubt?

Ted Gillis

This is one of the most inefficient use of tax payer resources that I've read about. I don't care how you spin it Henry, (with the explanation of it being no different that hurricane recovery activities). That's just a bunch of hooey. Operation Lone Star should fund directly the needs of the border agencies, not spread it to other counties so that they can play with it by sending resources to the border counties. How inefficient is that? It's almost like money laundering.

Carlos Ponce

Ted, how about going to the border and seeing for yourself? We have Galveston County officers who have been there and contradict your misinformation. I know several of them and know they are truthful.

Gary Scoggin

A few thoughts…

1. While the direct benefit to the County is hard to measure, reducing the flow of undocumented immigrants into the state is undoubtedly beneficial for all counties, so we get some proportionate share of these benefits.

2. There is a crisis on the border, everyone should acknowledge that. I have no problem with Galveston County pitching in to help.

3. The approach of Counties sending officers down there to help is probably a more efficient solution that mobilizing a bunch of additional Federal resources.

Question: what other counties are doing this? I assume Galveston County isn’t the only one.

Theresa Elliott

It is shameful that the Biden/Harris administration refuse to acknowledge the crisis at our borders. They have lied repeatedly saying the borders are secure when the clearly are not. I am grateful for our County stepping up to the plate and helping with this crisis!

Charles Douglas

I am too Ms. Elliott!! Mr. Patterson I believe you covered it all! Yes sir,...I think you nailed the box shut ...tied a bow on the whole thing! [thumbup][thumbup][thumbup]

Carlos Ponce

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David Hardee

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Ted Gillis

It’s shameful that you just made up that statement Theresa. The Biden/Harris administration has not said that. They have not “repeatedly lied” like you claim.

You repeat what you hear from people in your echo chamber, and that’s the shameful part.

In fact the Biden/Harris administration has kept in place many of the Trump/Pence border policies, and they have also implemented many of their own, but they have not lied about them.

The difference now is that more migrants are coming to the border than ever before.

You can be critical of the current border policies all you want, but don’t lie about it.

Carlos Ponce

Ted:

'Meet the Press September 11, 2022

Kamala Harris : "The border is secure, but we also have a broken immigration system, in particular, over the last four years before we came in, and it needs to be fixed."

Chuck Todd: "We're going to have two million people cross this border for the first time ever. You're confident this border's secure?"

Kamala Harris:"We have a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation, including ours and our administration."

Here's the transcript:

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-september-11-2022-n1298826

C. Patterson

Just recently 50 illegal immigrants DIE in a box truck and Democrats don’t say damn word. 50 illegal immigrants are dropped off in Marthas Vinyard and Democrats lose their minds, call the National Guard and have them removed in 24 hours clapping as the buses carried then off… tell me again who's the compassionate party?

Two thoughts, Democrats are hypocrites and Ron DeSantis is effing LEGAND

Laura Addison

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Ted Gillis

Made up stuff again Patterson. The Martha’s Vineyard democrats did not lie to the immigrants as they were “bused off”. They did not tell them they were going to Boston for jobs and housing, like DeSantis’ lying Coyote named Perla. The Vineyard residents were simply wishing them well as the left for Cape Cod, to arranged housing at a base arranged by there sane republican governor Charlie Baker. Your Fox News interpretation of the facts is the only hypocritical thing in you post, Patterson.

Laura Addison

Statement from Gov. DeSantis office: “Florida can confirm the two planes with illegal immigrants that arrived in Martha’s Vineyard today were part of the state’s relocation program to transport illegal immigrants to sanctuary destinations,” the statement said. “States like Massachusetts, New York, and California will better facilitate the care of these individuals who they have invited into our country by incentivizing illegal immigration through their designation as ‘sanctuary states’ and support for the Biden Administration’s open border policies.”

Kamala Harris, the purported border czar, refuses to even see the border. So, these border state governors are ‘bringing the border’ to Kamala Harris by letting her see a tiny fraction of the human cost that the Biden administration’s policies are inflicting on the nation. Read more @:

https://beckernews.com/cnn-is-comparing-ron-desantis-sending-illegal-migrants-to-marthas-vineyard-to-the-holocaust-46921/

Charles Douglas

Ms. Addison > 👍 👌 👍 👌 The Truth and nothing but the Truth! Lesson from this is: If one is going to TALK THAT TALK......Then..BE READY TO ......WALK THAT WALK! THE WOKE-LEFT got caught FLAT-FOOTED!! They never expected in one million years for those Governors to do.what they did! They got exposed to the world for their lying Hypocritical behaviors!

C. Patterson

TRUTH… this thought that DeSantis is smuggling immigrants around the country is utter nonsense! HOW DO THEY THINK THESE IMMIGRANTS GOT TO FLORIDA BECAUSE THEY SURE AS HECK DIDN’T WALK THERE !

Laura Addison

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Carlos Ponce

Ted :

"I would love Martha’s Vineyard to become a haven for new immigrants to this country" said Keith Chatinover, a progressive county commissioner for Dukes County, Mass., where Martha's Vineyard is located.

Looks like that was a LIE issued by NIMBY Vineyard.

C. Patterson

Lie? That was not in my comments but you kind of prove my point, you’re so conditioned to defending these people that the 50 people who died in a box car flies right over your head no comment?

Ted Gillis

Chuck Todd. I should have known it would be him.

Carlos Ponce

Chuck Todd did not answer the questions. Kamala did. Chuck Todd just asked the question in response to her reply. Didn't you read the entire NBC transcript?

Ted Gillis

And the Dukes county commissioner did not lie Carlos. His comments were sincere I’m sure, however you can’t force people to stay where they do not want to be, no matter how gracious the hosts may seem. These people were promised speedy immigration processing and jobs in Boston, not Martha’s Vineyard. That would be like promising someone a ride to Houston and then dropping them off in Bolivar (and then on top of that, taking a cruel video of it as you pull away showing the befuddled looks on their faces). Also some of these people have immigration hearings in San Antonio on Monday. They were lied to by a Coyote, who was working for Ron DeSantis. Now they are in jeopardy of missing that hearing.

I hope you are proud of your creepy party leaders Carlos.

Carlos Ponce

Did "Martha’s Vineyard ,,, become a haven for new immigrants to this country". No,

Ted Gillis

Do you even read what you post, Carlos?

Carlos Ponce

Yes, I do read my posts, Ted.

Gary Scoggin

That makes one of us.

Carlos Ponce

Such a touching, response, Gary........[cool]

C. Patterson

Congressman Troy Nehls

@RepTroyNehls

🚨BREAKING🚨

DHS confirms that Venezuela empties prisons and sends violent criminals to our southern border.

President Trump warned us about this years ago.

Ted Gillis

And this guy Troy has told us that the media is lying to us about the Jan 6th riot at the capital, so no Patterson, this is not credible news.

Breaking News. What a hoot.

C. Patterson

Ted, what part of “ DHS HAS CONFIRMED” do you not understand?

Typical Democrat playbook, when you don’t like the message, attack the messenger!

Ted Gillis

Every google search references the Troy Nehl’s tweet, not an actual DHS report.

I’ll wait to I see it in Yahoo News or even Fox News before I congratulate you.

C. Patterson

Whatever helps you wipe the egg off your face… I understand. Try searching “DHS confirms to CBP, Venezuela relocating prisoners to the Southern Boarder”… if you still get nothing, switch your search engine. I have AT LEAST 12 or so sources reporting

David Hardee

Where do these persons that claim the situation at the border is satisfactory get there idiotic illusions? Additionally what would give them the delusion that the policies and procedures being executed by the Biden DHS is effective and efficient to release these hordes of invaders into our country as being properly vetted? The only answer is these Biden supporters are intentional ignorance of the blaring evidence presented by videos of invaders, and the statements from the mouths of the invaders and those border agents that are carrying out the Biden border processing.

These Biden supporters commenting in this thread, are consistent, in their intentional ignorance no matter how destructive the Biden position is to our country/society.

Most of the Biden supporters (commenters) seem to be smart enough to have shied from this article because there is no way to deny the idiocy of Biden's handling. But a couple have ventured forth with excuses concocted from their construction of a unbelievable perspective. And the worst concoction is using this linkage "https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-16-2022" as a reference and tutorial to show that history and some statistic have the ipat of justifying the Biden idiocy. The "Heather link" is another of the recitations that charge discrimination and specifically racism are justification for anything, and portrays the invaders as VICTIMS of the USA policies and procedures. That "Heather link" so fits the progressive liberal Democratic Parties agenda, to be totally permissive and inclusive, for any who want to project themselves as a victim due to their race, sexual confusion, self inflicted addiction, lack of education, inability to have what they believe they should have, and total acceptance for any of their abnormal behaviors. This Democratic Party - progressive - inclusive - excusing, and justifying is causing these intentional ignorant people, Biden supporters.

C. Patterson

David you raise some excellent points. Im disgusted by this situation across the board by both Leadership and their supporters. The implication that we Republicans don’t care about folks in need is PATENTLY FALSE. In we care deeply about the human suffering, trafficking, rape and deaths. We had a safe process in place to help process as well as an immigration policy in place. Why like this?

Why would we allow everyone EXCEPT Cubans who are turned around. 57 Thousand a month are crossing into Texas. US is now caring for about 40 Thousand unaccompanied minors. 40 THOUSAND CHILDREN WITH NO PARENTS , LET THAT SINK IN ! One Thousand deaths as a direct result of traveling here and trying to cross. 70% of girls some as young as toddlers have been raped and dome multiple times. To ALL THOSE PEARL CLUTCHING LIBS. CRYING ABOUT KIDS IN CAGES ( that Obama built) WHERE IN THE HELL ARE YOU???? SHAME ON ALL OF YOU, every Chile dragged here by strangers using them as props to gain entry now with no

parents and most we have no idea who their parents are,every baby thats raped, every young child found dead or drowned SHAME ON YOU!!! YOU OWN THIS BY REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHATS HAPPENING YOU OWN THIS! Republicans are the only ones raising hell about this but not because we don’t have compassion but BECAUSE WE DO HAVE COMPASSION and want this travesty stopped. To those who believe slavery is wrong, we are in fact supporting slavery here by the Cartel… they deliver them to holding houses and hold them for ransom until they and their family pay the exorbitant fee. Some of those houses have been busted as close as HOUSTON. Human suffering on epic scale and BIDEN HAS CAUSED THIS and his administration gets on the legacy media and lies through their teeth and we haven’t even touched on the drugs coming across or how the 2 Million people who’ve crossed this year impact working class jobs. If you need a visual think of it this way… The population the size of Galveston is crossing into Texas alone. How long before this impacts you?

Jim Forsythe

You can blame this President or past Presidents, but the truth is they all failed in preventing illegal aliens from coming to American. Unless we all, Democrats, Republicans and Independents sit down and come up with a national policy that will not change, when we elect a new president, the problem will just increase. It looks now it will become worse, regardless of who is in power.

The Department of Homeland Security.---We estimate that in January of 2022 the illegal immigrant population stood at 11.35 million — a 1.13 million increase over January 2021 when President Biden took office, and the ongoing border surge began. Our preliminary estimate for February is 11.46 million. However, our January and February 2022 estimates are not substantially different from our January 2019 estimate of 11.48 million, before the pandemic began. The estimated size and growth of the illegal immigrant population are important because, unlike border apprehension figures, the number of illegal immigrants living in the country is what ultimately determines their impact.

In the fiscal year of 2021, there were 1,662,167 alien apprehensions by the United States Border Patrol - a significant increase from the previous fiscal year. The number of registered alien apprehensions reached a high of about 1.68 million in 2000, and a low of 310,531 in 2017.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, talk with the border agents.

C. Patterson

EXACTLY… in every conceivable manner, just like inflation, the numbers are at HISTORIC, NEVER BEFORE SEEN HIGHS and the more you try to spin it, there more it seems, you aren’t getting the message, you don’t believe it or you simply don’t care. This is solely on Bidens watch. And this is not 2 Million apprehended and turned around, they’re apprehended and released! On any given year we may have 9-12 known terrorist from the FBI Terrorist list apprehended… this year 87 alone! Thats about 60 more than the network that planned snd executed the attack on the world trade center! And these numbers don’t include the “ got away’s”. Our enemies have gotten the message, the boarder is wide open and no one cares!

We are under an invasion every day to staggering numbers and more from the Afghanistan disaster… there more dome planes carrying more Afghans than Americans but something far more dangerous was aboard those planes, Members of the Haqqani Network ! Far far more dangerous, they’re an Islamist guerrilla insurgent group. They were identified by an Afghanistan Mayor who was also on the flight !

This so dangerous, why are we doing this? To what purpose? IDC what your party affiliation is, you’re an American first, start acting like it!

Jim Forsythe

What did The Department of Homeland Security, who is over border agents, say about it. "The estimated size and growth of the illegal immigrant population are important because, unlike border apprehension figures, the number of illegal immigrants living in the country is what ultimately determines their impact." The numbers keep increasing.

Until we overhaul our rules, we will have an ever-increasing problem regardless of what party is in charge. Blaming the other party, will not fix our problem.

Bush did not fix it, Obama did not, Trump did not, and Biden will not fix it. Until all decided that all need to work together to fix the problem, we will continue down the same path.

At this time, I do not see that happening, so will continue to have more people living in the USA, year after year, that are not supposed to be here.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, TALK with the border agents.

Carlos Ponce

Current leadership of DHS just repeat the administration's propaganda. TALK WITH THE BORDER AGENTS.

Bailey Jones

Jim, arrests of undocumented immigrants has exceeded 2,000,000 already this year, and is on track to exceed 2.3M by the end of the fiscal year. This reflects both the collapse of civilized society south of the border, and the Biden administration's failure to process more legitimate asylum seekers. Deaths among immigrants is also at an all time high, no doubt to the delight of those who fail to see the humanity in this sea of humans.

Jim Forsythe

Bailey, my issue is not how many are arrested, but how many are living in the USA. This number of illegal immigrates living in the USA has increased, year after year and will not decrease until we change the way we deal with this issue. Our process for asylum seekers, has been broken for many years.

Asylum applicants have to wait for years until they get a chance to appear in front of an asylum officer. Depending on the asylum office that has jurisdiction over the application, applicants may wait from two to five years. For example, in December 2016, the Los Angeles asylum office was interviewing the applicants who filed their applications in August 2011.

No President is going to fix this problem. It will take all in DC, to make the problem better because illegal immigration, will never be at zero.

Bailey Jones

I agree with you, Jim. The only point that I'm making is that the border is far from "open".

Carlos Ponce

" illegal immigration, will never be at zero." Not with Democrats in charge.

Jim Forsythe

"illegal immigration, will never be at zero." no matter who in charge.

Carlos, name the last President during their term, since the Hart-Celler Immigration Act was passed, that illegal immigration was zero?

Ed Buckner

Worth a read-- https://jacobin.com/2022/09/trump-legal-pressure-aides-subpoenas-judicial-challenge?fbclid=IwAR0jbvtn5wuy8iB-9DH4KnXAm7RXc1d8lK2wVYbZ0ytC8gTLytnaWayD5Mk

David Hardee

Read it, Ed. Nothing new. Another reciting of constructed circumstantial evidence.

For sake of embracing the path you are leading us on, I will submit a comment that will incorporate all the dastardly deeds that have been assigned to Trump by these champions of integrity and truth that are prosecuting the intentional criminal acts of the twice impeached and committed 30,000 lies whle he was president.

I say with total confidence that Trump has been targeted from the day he announced his itent to run for president by a cabal of political operatives that are adequately monikered as swamp creatures. And if you accept their recriinations as being intended to achieve unmitigated justice you are either stupid or are intentionally ignoring the obvious incriminations that exist in their actions as being a construction for the purpose of securing their existence. The entire political fiasco (it is noting but political vendettas) reflects on all of the politicians and the bureaucracies as being of the lowest character this country has endured since Roy M, Cohn (homosexual) DOJ lawyer persecuted suspected Communist for Senator McCarthy and the perjurer president Clinton survived his impeachment, and Nixon resigned under threat of impeachment. The 3 events I recall for you to recall all resulted in a eventual conclusion which was proven to be either criminal or at least a willful abuse of office. These 3 events have the same effect as is the effect of the politicized bureaucracies vendettas on Trump is having on the general public . Disgust for all involved. Lack of confidence in the justice system. and a demoralized public filled with hypothesis and innuendos. Any patriot is sad about the embarrassment but glad that the swamp is being exposed and hopefully will regurgitate snd punish the swamp creatures. this repugnant DOJ and its investigative department are moving at a speed comparable to a bowel and lets hope it will result in a good cleansing and flushing.

Quit your supposing you can make a valid judgement. The actors are so deeply imbedded they hve trapped themselves in a death spiral and will deserve what they reap,

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Ed Buckner

I'd like to ask all reasonable people to join me now in according to David Hardee exactly the respect he so richly deserves.

Ted Gillis

I agree Bailey. The border is not “open”. If the border is so “open” like they claim it is, why are people still swimming across the river? If the border is so open why are there still check points?

The use of the term “open borders” is just to inflame those of the ignorant and bigoted.

Carlos you claim that we should talk to a border agent. I will, as soon as you and your buddies promise to quit using the term “open borders”, as it describes nothing like what it is actually like. There is a whole system of border agents, customs agents, ICE folks, parks and wildlife, rangers, guardsman, local sheriffs and even visiting law enforcement that are hard at work. None of them well tell you that we have an “open border”.

Carlos Ponce

The illegals coming across said the borders are open.

“Vice President Harris said that the border is closed, is the border closed? Do you believe that the border is closed or is it open?” national correspondent Griff Jenkins asked.

“It’s open, not closed,” the Venezuelan responded. “The border is open.”

The illegals say the borders are open and Jim wants to argue.

Want to see the video?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gXFpz20PoA8

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, the standard you go by is what an illegal Venezuelan says?

As I said before, no President has fixed our illegal immigration problem.

Unless we all work together to fix it, the problem will become increasing worse.

Carlos Ponce

Jim try talking to the illegals. They will tell you the BORDER IS OPEN.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, Harris said the border was “secure” but many want to change what she said.

A Fox News correspondent covering the buses of migrants that arrived outside the Vice President’s home on Thursday decided to try and communicate with some in Spanish—that is, until he couldn’t bother trying anymore. Griff Jenkins began approaching some of the migrants sent to the Naval Observatory early Thursday morning, using his minimal Spanish to try to speak to some of them. In standard Fox News fashion, Jenkins got one to contradict a purported claim by Vice President Kamala Harris (who he calls “President Harris” in Spanish) that the border is closed. (Harris actually said the border was “secure”). But his attention seemed to wane once he spoke to a second migrant. Jenkins asked the migrant in Spanish if everyone on the bus was from Venezuela. The migrant responded, in Spanish, that they all fled the “difficult” country, and endured the arduous journey, because they hoped to “triumph” in the United States. He said he found immigration officials in Mexico hard to deal with. Jenkins thanked the man and let him leave, but the migrant’s translated comments didn’t make it to Fox's airwaves. “I’m not going to be able to translate all of that I wouldn’t even try because it wouldn’t look good on live TV,” Jenkins said. “They are coming across here, all of these migrants.”

Laura Addison

I know you think you’re making a point, but people are dying and drowning daily flooding to the open border, children and women are being trafficked. Americans are dying from record fentanyl overdoses. Crime is up.

Greg Abbott on Sept. 12 stated, "680+ migrants have died crossing illegally" just this past year. What happened to "just one death is too many"? Where's the media outrage on this?

Bill Melugin, reporting from the border, 5 hours ago: "A reminder, multiple CBP sources tell us there have been more than 900,000 known gotaways who have evaded capture at the border since the beginning of FY’21, including well over 500,000 so far in FY’22. They are seen on cameras, sensors, & recorded, but no manpower to get to."

Bill Melugin, 23 hours ago: "It’s official. For the first time, migrant encounters at the border have surpassed two million in one year."

CBP reports there were 203,598 migrant encounters at the border in August, bringing the total for FY’22 to 2,150,370, and there is still one month left to go.

President Biden’s failure to secure the border is a humanitarian threat as well as a threat to public safety. Maybe, just maybe, in the sad event it hits closer to home, and someone you love dies from a fentanyl overdose or is murdered by one of the unvetted migrants coming here from extremely violent countries you will feel differently about what's really going on at our southern borders.

I honestly can't believe any American being ok with what's happening at our borders, especially Texans.

Jim Forsythe

Laura Addison, what's going on at the border has been happening for a while. It's nothing new that drugs cross into the USA. If we want to slow the problem down, we need to fix our immigration problem, by all working together. If over 2,000,000 people are stopped at the border, they are not the problem.

The fentanyl problem started before Trump and has gotten worse. When there are people willing to pay for drugs, the people that traffic in drugs will find a way to get it into the USA. In 2016, nearly 65,000 Americans died from overdosing on opioids like fentanyl.

As many illegals that make it into the USA by the border, more make it into the USA by using visa overstaying as a way to get into the USA.

Immagration reform is the only way we are going to slow this problem down.

Carlos Ponce

"has been happening for a while" Like comparing a dripping faucet to a flood.

C. Patterson

I believe what they mean by “open” is the same description implied by porous meaning unmanned, unattended and vulnerable. As does the meaning apprehended. These are not folks coming through tbe legal ports of entry. To add insult to injury DHS has reappointed CBP Agents OFF the boarder and to makeshift shelters to help process because they are critically short handed. Adult males are considered “ catch snd release” come see us in court ( which only 2% do) women with children, unaccompanied minors and those who need medical attention are directed to the shelters. With 2 million crossings thats a lot of children! Easy to understand when we had a baby formula shortage the first deliveries went to the boarder which I think was necessary. Theres a lot of babies in those shelters and Mothers with no money and no means of transportation. I hate that this is happening for all the reasons we’ve covered but if you’re going to allow them access you are now responsible for them while they’re on American soil. They are the victims in this mess

Jim Forsythe

I agree Bailey and Ted. If the border was open, we would not have arrested 2,000,000 undocumented immigrants already this year. That the opposite of what an open border is.

Carlos Ponce

"arrested"???? More like a meet and great. I they were "arrested" wouldn't they be in jail or deported?

C. Patterson

Article I of Biden's Impeachment is the Invasion on the Southern Boarder. TOTAL DERELICTION OF DUTY.

Jim Forsythe

Asylum seekers.

C. Patterson

This game ends on Nov. 8th

Jim Forsythe

What's going to change, Nov 8th?

Even if Republicans take the House and the Senate, we are still going to have problems at the border, just as we always have.

Carlos Ponce

Things will change, Jim.The House oversight committee will ask for removal of those who refuse to enforce the LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. If they cannot do the job they have to leave. Under proper leadership, illegal immigration will not be zero but approach a manageable rate as it was during President Trump. Instead of bloating the IRS, funding will be directed to help the border.

Jim Forsythe

Unless the immigration laws are changed nothing will change. Trump just all other President fail in controlling people that are not supposed to be in the USA from entering.

Trump entered office in January 2017, illegal border crossings nearly doubled, as of the most recent 12 months on record.” That was based on U.S. Customs and Border Protection data as of August 2019. Thats not controlling and reducing.

Carlos Ponce

And Jim REFUSES to talk with the border agents nor the illegals. So much for your posts....[tongue]

Jim Forsythe

Border agents and the illegals do not make the laws. Border agents, they just follow what their boss tells them to do, and they do not make changes in our laws. If your issue is they will say how bad the problem is that is true and will not get better until changes are made. If you want illegals to make laws and or change laws, we have a problem.

The problem has been out of control for many years and is getting worse. People like you and I talking to eighter group will not fix the problem. If all you want to do is listen to what others say about the problem, that does not fix the problem. The only ones that can fix the problem are the ones in DC.

The people in DC are the ones that have to sit down with all and make the changes that are needed. They are the ones that can fix the problems we have with things like how asylum works, which can take up to 6 years before a hearing occurs.

If we do not change what we are doing as far as Immagration, we will continue to have the same problems, except they will continue to increase in severity.

If we had been doing a good job, we would not have increased from 11.3 million illegal aliens residing within the United States in 2010, to 14.5 million illegal aliens residing within the United States in 2020. In ten years, the number have increased 3.2 million and there are no signs that the numbers will do anything but increase in the next 10 years.

Buy the year 2030, we will be getting close to 20 million illegal aliens residing within the United State, unless changes are made.

Carlos Ponce

"Border agents and the illegals do not make the laws. Border agents, they just follow what their boss tells them to do....."

And when their boss tells them to ignore the laws???? Think NUREMBERG!

Principle IV - The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him.

This principle could be paraphrased as follows: "It is not an acceptable excuse to say 'I was just following my superior's orders'".

Gary Scoggin

"And Jim REFUSES to talk with the border agents nor the illegals. So much for your posts.." - I would love to do that, unfortunately I don't know any in either category. And I don't have time to go down to the border and meet some.

I did hear a presentation not long ago by Sherriff Trochesett and Constable Fullen on the topic and got a chance to ask some questions, so does that count? It was quite eye-opening.

Carlos Ponce

" And I don't have time to go down to the border and meet some."

Gee, someone please introduce Scoggin to the 21st century. You don't have to be physically down at the border to talk with someone at the border. [rolleyes]

Carlos Ponce

Scoggin, you may have trouble reading the West Texas Border Patrol Twitter Account:

"West Texas Border Patrol Twitter Account Shut Down After Criticizing Biden's Policies"

https://www.westernjournal.com/west-texas-border-patrol-twitter-account-shut-criticizing-bidens-policies/

Gary Scoggin

"Gee, someone please introduce Scoggin to the 21st century. You don't have to be physically down at the border to talk with someone at the border" Good idea! I'll set up a Zoom call with someone who just crossed the border. Wait, I don't have their email address.

Carlos Ponce

They INTERVIEW them, Scoggin. Of course if you look only at Leftist propaganda.....

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, you make all the excuses' why what we have is ok, and in the year 2030, we will be getting close to 20 million illegal aliens residing within the United State, unless changes are made.

We must change what we are doing, or the problem becomes larger, and all you want to place blame on some, when all are at fault for what has happened.

Even if I talk with the border agents which means to be in the same place, whatever we decided, would not fix anything.

I for fixing the problem and you are for watching clips of border agents talking.

Carlos Ponce

" unless changes are made."

Yes, Don't vote for Democrats![beam]

Jim Forsythe

For some reason you try and make this a party issue.

This is not a party issue, but an USA of America problem. To reduce the numbers, it is going to take all working together.

We have tried to solve this problem by the party method, and it has not worked.

If that method had worked, we would not have 14.5 million illegal aliens residing within the United States.

To continue to try and use the party method is the fastest way to 20 million illegal aliens residing within the United States.

Carlos Ponce

It is a party issue.Democrat leadership wants OPEN BORDERS. All their decisions have led to this. To deny this denies reality.

Jim Forsythe

If you want the numbers to increase at an ever-increasing rate, we need to keep it as a party problem.

If you want the numbers increase to slow down, it is a non-party issue.

Carlos, you are still hung up on the party issue. If all do not work together, we will never stop the escalating numbers at the border.

Carlos Ponce

NO, Jim, you are delusional: DEMOCRAT PARTY POLICY is behind the border crisis.

Ed Buckner

[thumbup], Mr. Forsythe

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, if what you say is true, "DEMOCRAT PARTY POLICY is behind the border crisis", it would mean that every time we have a Republican President the crisis disappears? This is not true as the border crisis does not slow for any President but continues to increase in numbers.

Of course, it does not slow, because no matter who is President, it just gets worse.

If you are trying to say Trump did a good job, you are wrong. When Trump first become President, we had 12.5 million illegal aliens residing within the United State. When Trump left office, we had14.7 million illegal aliens residing within the United State. If you consider this number a success, that explains a lot. To me, no matter how you try, those numbers indicate a total loss of control.

If all in DC do not sit down and come up with a plan on how we, the USA, is going to address this problem from now on without changing the way we handle the problem each time we get a new President, the crisis will continue to become a larger problem.

In a post I said that we would be at 20 million illegal aliens residing within the United State in 10 years. If we do not slow the growth in numbers, it will take less time than that to reach 20 million, regardless of what party is in power.

Ted Gillis

Carlos, the typical republican talking piece. Once they run out of arguments about immigration, they claim that all the democrats want is open borders. It’s a lie. But them lying is okay.

Carlos Ponce

Ted, I dare you to talk with Galveston County Sheriff Henry Trochesstt, Constable Jimmy Fullen or any of the law enforcement who have been to the border. I know you won't because they will tell you about the open borders. Do all Democrats want open borders, probably not but Democrat Party policy is keeping them open.

Question for Ted:

Do YOU think the borders are open or secure?

Ed Buckner

This is relevant to the discussion here only because various posters here continue to invoke former President Donald Trump as a sane or reasonable leader. Here's all the evidence you need to know that's unsupportable and that the ones suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome are Trump and his supporters: https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/september-21-2022?r=3urcz&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

David Hardee

Those with what you call TDS are far more healthy then those infected with DPLWT.

See how easy it is to create an anagram. DemocraticProgressiveWokeTransexualDerangementSyndrome.

Ed Buckner

Though I don't really see why either would matter at all, I presume David Hardee means "acronym" rather than "anagram."

David Hardee

That portion "doesn't matter" reflect my personal dislike for the acronyms, ejomi and other character and sign language.

C. Patterson

And now the House passes legislation to allow all NON CITIZENS/ ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS…. I think its pretty clear what the benefit of open boarders is for. 2 million this year alone

Ed Buckner

Some people just don't care about their own reputations and credibility. If anyone can show me any credible evidence that "the House passes legislation to allow all NON CITIZENS/ ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS" I will vote GOP for the rest of my life. Failure to demonstrate the "truth" of this absurd assertion can reasonably be taken as evidence that it was, at best, a miss-statement or typo and not to be taken seriously.

C. Patterson

It passed the House last night and now goes to the Senate 100% Democrats and 9 RINOS…

https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1572655392219602949/photo/1

Ed Buckner

Mr. Patterson, you have still refused to give us the text or even the resolution/bill # you refer to. There was a resolution, 8873, that passed with 9 GOP votes and has been forwarded to the Senate. The complete text, which nowhere allows all noncitizens and aliens to vote in federal elections, is here (please advise where in that text it says what you claimed)-- https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8873/text?r=1&s=1

C. Patterson

Ill accept your apology virtually

C. Patterson

https://twitter.com/JudiciaryGOP/status/1572655392219602949/photo/1

Jim Forsythe

Thats just a GOP source. Please post a source that is not associated with a party.

Ed Buckner

I followed the link--but it showed nothing of the sort--just many tweets, etc., by the likes of Jim Jordan (not a reputable or credible source) but NOT anything even purporting to show what you claim--that ALL ALIENS and NONCITIZENS WERE granted the vote in federal elections. Saying it is so, especially when it's transparent nonsense, is not evidence at all.

David Hardee

Ed, you are a vociferous consumer of of information. And you are extremely generous with sharing - or should it be proliferating - your sources. The only criticism is that your recommendation are always filtered by the presenters to elicit a particular thought pattern in the consumer. Well that consistency is not educating, it is indoctrinations. Therefore, those that acquire information purposely to get the honest interpretation have a difficult time since all of the "sources" are doing what you do - filter for effect - one must conduct a theme analysis and consolidate the information then actually see in action what is happening (ignore the moderator diagnosis) and then over time that education will produce a better knowledge.

Consequently, wisdom to make at least a respectable conclusion and vote.

So it is in the legislation the appearance that the movement is to find a way for the undocumented to effect voting. That is a theme from the act of the Democratic congress and we can SEE that the Democratic administration is promoting illegal invasion across our border. The reasons the Democrats are doing such have been said - humanitarian. With the benefit of doubt let us take their word. So what is the inevitable when the country is polluted thoroughly with illegals and deportation is impossible. Will we printed the ballots in the X most prolific languages for Federal elections.

As Biden would state a positive "come on man."

Even the miniscule mention of legislation to allow illegals to vote (aside from the published and media presentations) is enough to nauseate a patriot.

Ed Buckner

David Hardee, one could no doubt make a case that different policies or laws could encourage illegal voting or be inadequate regarding immigration, etc. That's *not* what C Patterson claimed, however. He stated (quoting precisely here) that "legislation to allow all NON CITIZENS/ ILLEGAL ALIENS TO VOTE IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS" was passed in the House and sent to the Senate in the last day or two. If that were true, anyone with access to the internet and the proceedings of the US Congress would be able to cite the Bill # and then the actual text of the bill to show this. Mr. Patterson has not done this. Neither have you. Neither has anyone else. No one will, but Mr. Patterson thinks that not admitting his mistake protects his credibility. It doesn't.

Ed Buckner

Another alleged source for this stupidity claimed that HR 8770 accomplished this bologna, but a careful reading of that resolution--link to text attached--shows no such horse manure. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8770/text

Ed Buckner

If the "House passes legislation" the text of that legislation is readily available on line. Link to that--or admit defeat.

David Hardee

A few common sense statements might tantalize some to simply reflect and then stop their supposition, hyperbole and semantic convolutions (like what does open mean when attached to the word border).

Let's deal with reality of conditions NOW.

The Biden administration and congress are the power in charge and have a 33 month history to evaluate.

Both have acted for 33 months and - overall result on/at, the border, the domestic tranquility, the economy, and international scene can be reasonably evaluated.

Overall on those 4 areas they have nothing that could be considered a good result for any person or country involved.

Obviously the border situation is awful, the animosity in society awful and internationally we have belligerents at war, threat of nuclear use, and a threat of invasions elsewhere. These result alone are sufficient to conclude that this Biden era and the underlying strategies embraced by supporters will continue to produce awful results. Ergo to change the future trajectory at least in a different and hopefully better direction we must reject those strategies and it supporters as soon as possible and put the power in the most diametric opposed establishment available.

Vote wisely.

Ed Buckner

Biden has of course only been in office 20 months--not 33--but if your point is that the policies and practices of many administrations (and legislators, too) have contributed to our real and troubling immigration patterns, then I agree.

David Hardee

Sincerely, Thanks Ed, for the editing.

Aside from my word index memory pulling anagram instead of acronym and my finger counting calculator to arrive at 20. You and I agree on, - it is the policies and procedure of an administration that should be judged for the results. As always there context problems to be resolved when I produce a comment. Though I am wordy it seems I never make the point with sufficient clarity. To the Biden responsibility at the border you and I could totally agree had Biden carried on with the prior administrations policies and procedure. But Biden made very big changes. Consequently Biden owns all the responsibility for current (after 20 months) results. And thus the conclusion of "awful" results is justified.

Jim Forsythe

Jared Kushner Thursday blasted as “very troubling” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s policy of flying asylum-seekers from Texas to liberal enclaves like Martha’s Vineyard. The son in law of former President Donald Trump said the flights amount to using the people fleeing Venezuela’s dictatorship as “political pawns” in the culture war over immigration. “We have to remember that these are human beings, they’re people,” Kushner said on Fox News. “So, seeing them being used as political pawns is very troubling to me.”

Carlos Ponce

Gee, Jim, you say the quote is from FOX but you DID NOT USE a FOX website to get the quote. As usual, your "source" takes things out of context, distorts it to fit a Liberal narrative. He was actually criticizing BIDEN'S POLICIES!!!!!!!!!!

From the FOX website:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kushner-slams-biden-border-crisis-outnumbered-reversing-trump-policies-created-catastrophe

Former Trump White House senior adviser Jared Kushner argued President Biden's push to overturn former President Trump's border policies has created a "catastrophe" at the southern border. On "Outnumbered" Tuesday, Kushner unpacked the "very troubling" situation many migrants face trying to enter the country under Biden's administration.

Here's what Jared Kushner ACTUALLY said:

JARED KUSHNER: I personally watch what's happening and it's very hard to see at the southern border. We have to remember these are human beings. They're people. So seeing them being used as political pawns one way or the other is very troubling to me. But I do think that if you go back to the time under President Trump with the lowest border crossings in history, when he turned over the administration and the border was secure, it was very safe. And people don't talk enough about the fact that these people are lured into these journeys by the coyotes. They're paying a lot of money. I think 80% of women are sexually assaulted along the way. They come into America. They don't have papers. Many of them are exploited, put in human trafficking and modern slavery in a lot of ways. So it's a very sad situation. I think the policies that President Trump was trying to put forward on figuring out how to create a secure border, a merit-based immigration system, having rule and law and order were very important policies that unfortunately was just totally disregarded and reversed. Day one. And now we're seeing the unfortunate humanitarian catastrophe that comes because of that.

Don't trust FOX? Here's that program on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrlLcpMmZ6c

Jim Forsythe

Thank you, Carlos, for verifying what I posted. He said what I posted.

Carlos Ponce

What you posted was a LIE. I'm sure you didn't create it. You found some LYING Liberal source, copied and pasted without verifying the information. Tell us which Lying Liberal source you used so that no one else will be FOOLED by it. If you don't we understand you don't care about truth so long as it fulfills a false Liberal narrative.

Jim Forsythe

It's part of the FOX website: you posted.

Carlos Ponce

"Jared Kushner Thursday blasted as “very troubling” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s policy"

NOT PART OF THE FOX WEBSITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In fact, Jared Kushner NEVER mentions DeSantis.

I tried to save you by attributing it to a bad source but you're doubling down on stupid!

Jim Forsythe

Thank you, Carlos, for verifying what I posted. He said what I posted.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, NEVER was it said ""Jared Kushner Thursday blasted as 'very troubling' Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s policy"

Call your doctor, you are delusional.

Did Jared Kushner EVER mention DeSantis? No, he did not.

Gary Scoggin

Boys. Don’t make me stop this car.

Ed Buckner

C'mon Daddy Gary--could you maybe make it at a Dairy Queen?

Carlos Ponce

Since Gary Scoggin portrays himself as the voice of reason I want him to look at the "Outnumbered" segment and tell us, does Jared Kushner ever mention Governor DeSantis and blasts him as Jim Forsythe posted?

Jim Forsythe

Carlos since you are so hung up on Ron DeSantis, this is for you.

Ron DeSantis violated state spending law when he spent Florida dollars to fly Venezuelan migrants to Martha's Vineyard, a new lawsuit says

Carlos Ponce

Another lawsuit???? Some idiots believe that just because a "lawsuit" has been filed that means the law has been broken! HOW STUPID! You must believe in the Soviet style of justice!

Gary Scoggin

I would agree to review the Kushner tape if I cared in the least what he thinks about anything. Which I don’t. I’m sorry but you’ll have to find another referee.

Carlos Ponce

You know you would have to agree with me, Scoggin!

Jim Forsythe

The lawsuit accuses DeSantis of improperly using state funds by picking up migrants in Texas. A lawsuit was filed on Thursday night, alleging that the governor violated the law when he tapped into the $12 million set aside for migrant transport in this year's state budget. Also sued was filed to block Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis from orchestrating any more flights carrying migrants to other states. DeSantis' actions were in violation of state law because the budget stipulates that the funds may be used for "the transport of unauthorized aliens from this state consistent with federal law." The flights originated in Texas heading to Massachusetts.

Carlos Ponce

Lawsuits? AGAIN? Someone files a lawsuit against Jim Forsythe. Does that mean he is automatically GUILTY? No. You're reading too much into it, Jim.

Gary Scoggin

"You know you would have to agree with me, Scoggin!" I would go wherever the facts led me. And if they had led me to you, I would have agreed with you. Same goes for Jim.

Carlos Ponce

Then prove it from the actual evidence.

Gary Scoggin

I have no dog in this fight. And I'm staying out of it.

Carlos Ponce

Scoggin, you put yourself into this with "Boys. Don’t make me stop this car." Now you don't want any part of it.... There's a word for people like you but the rules stop me from posting it.

If you don't want to be a part of it then simply keep out!

David Hardee

PLEASE! Let us all stop bring up the filing and in process suing's. A court and the actors that preform in that arena are beyond interpretation because the have written such voluminous definitions dissertation for an issue that every law is malleable because the intersect each other creating a path that stop and restart and will double back making the path totally without a conclusion. The only resolution is: 1. surrender from exhaustion of process. 2. out of resources to continue. 3. lets make a deal. 4. take the audience (jury) and isolate them from the actors and tell them to deliberate on the performances till contentious in no more or exhausted and quit.

Us trying to presume or conclude an outcome, and engaging in intellectually conversation is of little or no practical purpose, (mental masturbation).

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