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A brief but heated confrontation disrupted a rally in support of President Donald Trump on Saturday at the Galveston County Justice Center, where tensions were already high as news reporting Trump’s electoral defeat broke just a little more than an hour before.

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Thomas Carpenter

The Galveston Democratic Party should have sent them a five pound chunk of Wisconsin cheese to with all those whines.

Carlos Ponce

No whining Thomas Carpenter, just a peaceful assembly tainted with a few Liberals trying to suppress their Freedom of Speech.

Be patient, Thomas. Spiking the football and doing a victory dance before the final whistle is unwarranted.

As Yogi Berra said, "It ain't over til it's over." And anyone who thinks it's over is sadly mistaken.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos "a man" is not "a few Liberals".

You may not think it is over, but it is. What steps do you think will change the outcome? The court cases will be rejected in most case. What state do you think will change from Biden to Trump? The sharpie case in Arizona has been ruled on. It was ruled it was ok to use it.

The below case in Pennsylvania is challenging a states right to set up rules when they count mail-in ballots. This is not a case that will go in favor of Trump. If Trump had a problem with the state law , he should have said so before the election. States have a right to set their own rules that all must follow in that state. 21 states and Washington, D.C., will count ballots that arrive after Nov. 3, with deadlines varying. Ballots in California must be postmarked on or before Nov. 3 and returned no later than Nov. 20, and in Washington ballots must be postmarked on Nov. 3 and received by Nov. 23.

With many States allowing Mail-in-ballots to be counted after election day, the below will not be successful.

Pennsylvania --Trump's campaign on Wednesday filed a motion to intervene in a case pending before the U.S. Supreme Court challenging a decision from the state's highest court that allowed election officials to count mail-in ballots postmarked by Tuesday's Election Day that were delivered through Friday.

Carlos, once you decide that Biden won, I hope you will join in trying to unite the USA.

If we work together, good things will happen.

Carlos Ponce

"What steps do you think will change the outcome?" It's in God's hands.

Jim, once you decide that Biden lost, I hope you will join in trying to unite the USA.

If we work together, good things will happen.

Carlos Ponce

"The court cases will be rejected in most case." Because the cases must first be presented to state judges who are elected Democrats. Remember Supreme Court Justice Alito ordered mail-ins received after Election day be counted but kept separate from those submitted prior to the end of the election. That's a start.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos 'a man' is not 'a few Liberals'. If you include the Liberals in these forums including yourself.......there's more than "a man".

Bailey Jones

Leave Carlos alone, Jim! Don't you know that the first stage of grief is denial? Acceptance is still 4 steps away.

It goes like this -

1) Denial - The election isn't over!!!

2) Anger - The democrats stole our election!!!

3) Bargaining - He'll be back in 2024! Just you wait!

4) Depression - sigh...

5) Acceptance - Biden is president. Where are my anti-Biden talking points?

Gary Miller

Jim>Some cases will be rejected by local courts but move up to SCOTUS where Biden will lose. One case is how most states had rejected mail in ballots until they discovered their election law approved it even when their legislators and Governors had not amended it.

Craig Mason

Funny Bailey. Carlos, you mad bro?

Carlos Ponce

Thank you for the list, Bailey. I'll save it for when the true results are announced.

One change:

5) Acceptance - Trump is re-elected President

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, you mad bro?" Not now. I know what's going to happen. But when the truth is revealed, Liberals will try to tear this country down.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, this was about the above story and you said that "a few Liberals trying to suppress their Freedom of Speech."

Only one person was at this event, if you go by what was reported.

Carlos, once you decide that Biden won, I hope you will join in trying to unite the USA.

If we work together, good things will happen.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, remember your post come January.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos so January is when you are going to join in, and help the USA to come together with Biden's leadership.

Carlos Ponce

No, Jim, the results will show otherwise.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos , since you are so sure that Trump will win , please outline what path that there is to Trump victory.

Which of the many states are you so sure will flip to Trump. It's going to take more than one state.

Of those states, what is the factor that will take votes from Biden and give them to Trump.

Carlos Ponce

My source says faith and patience.

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, I was sure you would not outline a path for Trump to remain in the White House.

Which of the many states are you so sure will flip to Trump.

As always, you try to avoid the question.

Gary Scoggin

I'm glad to see you're back in communication with your secret high-level source.

Carlos Ponce

Motto of Hitchcock High School: "Let GOD be our Source of Knowledge!"

Jim Forsythe

Carlos, I was sure you would not outline a path for Trump to remain in the White House.

Which of the many states are you so sure will flip to Trump.

As always, you try to avoid the question.

Carlos Ponce

I'm interested on where we're going, not how we got there.

Jim Forsythe

As always, you try to avoid the question.

Carlos Ponce

I never told a student that their question was STUPID. You're not my student.

Jim Forsythe

You can not answer because you know that Trump has lost, and you do not want to say so.

Carlos Ponce

Wait and see, Bailey.

Carlos Ponce

Wait and see, Bailey, Jim, Gary Scoggin, etc.

Gary Scoggin

Carlos, can you tell us specifically what we are waiting to see? And how long we will have to wait? These vague statements undermine your credibility. But if you are willing to be accountable we can take them more seriously.

Carlos Ponce

"Carlos, can you tell us specifically what we are waiting to see? And how long we will have to wait?" To reveal it at this time would not be prudent. When? All will be revealed before December. Problem is Democrats will drag this into continued litigation leading to further complications.But in the end : FOUR MORE YEARS!!!!!

Gary Scoggin

Yes, dear.

Jim Forsythe

You are still not answering , just being normal Carlos, not able to give a straight answer. What is the path that Trump is going to use. Many paths have all ready been turned down.

In Georgia, a judge dismissed a Trump campaign lawsuit after election officials testified they had not improperly counted a few dozen ballots the campaign's lawyers alleged they had.

In Michigan on Thursday, an appeals judge denied a Trump campaign lawsuit that attempted to stop the state's ongoing count by claiming Republican officials weren't granted appropriate access to monitoring the counting process.

Trump Campaign Threatens Recount In Wisconsin Scott Walker, a former Republican governor of Wisconsin, said on Twitter that the 20,000-vote margin in the state was “a high hurdle” for the Trump campaign to challenge with a recount.

“After recount in 2011 race for WI Supreme Court, there was a swing of 300 votes,” Walker tweeted. “After recount in 2016 Presidential race in WI, [Trump’s] numbers went up by 131.”

Arizona judge hears lawsuit over claims Sharpies stopped votes from being counted. "Sharpie markers are recommended by the manufacturer of Maricopa County's vote tabulation machines as the preferred way to mark ballots for use in those machines." Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs has also assured the public that ALL votes would be counted, no matter what kind of pen was used, even a sharpie.

Carlos Ponce

Jim wants spoilers. Just make some popcorn sit back and watch. I've already given you the ending. Now see how we get there.

Jim Forsythe

You are still not answering , just being normal Carlos, not able to give a straight answer. What is the path that Trump is going to use. Many paths have all ready been turned down.

Carlos Ponce

Jim wants spoilers. Just make some popcorn sit back and watch. I've already given you the ending. Now see how we get there.

Craig Mason

Just like I have said before in this forum, neither the republicans or democrats elect the president. It is generally decided by the 20 percent of folks who identify as independents. Last election those independent voters swung to Trump and this time to Biden. I believe my exact words were something along the lines of Trump needs to be wary of the independent voter. He only played to his base and did nothing to bring those moderate folks who voted for him in 2016 into the fold. He paid the price for that in 2020. As far as fraud goes, if there is widespread fraud, I would like to see it. I don’t believe there is but look forward to this playing out all the way to the Supreme Court. Right now it just looks like sour grapes.

Carlos Ponce

Whatever happened to Texas turning Blue, Hegar winning, Bell winning, etc. ?

I'm proud of Texas especially Galveston County!

Galveston County:

Trump 93,306 ✓ Biden 58,247

Cornyn 93,700 ✓ Hegar 54,545

Weber 96,490 ✓ Bell 55,127

Bailey Jones

We were so busy perpetrating our massive voter fraud to give Biden the tiniest of leads after 5 torturous days of agonizing vote counting that we forgot to rig the rest of the races on the ballot. Seems sort of negligent in retrospect.

Carlos Ponce

Don't worry, Bailey. Democrats tried to rig the Texas election but were stymied when I blessed the polling location to keep out evil and extended that blessing to many other polling locations.[innocent]

Gary Scoggin

It looks like your blessing reached all the way to Pennsylvania.

Carlos Ponce

We shall see.

Gary Scoggin

Yes, dear.

Bailey Jones

I'll just add that my Never-Trumpster sister burned a La Virgin de San Juan de los Lagos candle all the way down to the glass. So I guess the battle between Principalities was a draw.

Carlos Ponce

No, Bailey, not a draw. The verdict is still out.

Ted Gillis

If you look on Hunter’s laptop, all the plans on how to steal the election are there, spelled out step by step in Ukrainian.

Carlos Ponce

Ted's laptop has "a cute blonde in a tight skirt". Does your wife approve?

Ted Gillis

Nah Carlos, it’s a company laptop, so they wouldn’t approve of it, but I do have an aged but classic Ridgid tool calendar from about the mid 80’s in the garbage above my tool bench.

The model, I presume, is now probably one of those older white suburban women that voted for Joe Biden!

Carlos Ponce

One can never tell. If she's from Texas.......

Wayne D Holt

Without getting into all of the details, I find it passing strange the vast majority/all of the computer glitches, denial of poll watchers, erection of barriers to vote counting, 100% vote totals in entire districts...favored Biden.

Yes, yes, I know; take it to the FBI, take it to the courts, let local election officials jump right on it. Every one of those players has been discredited as a reliable, consistent source of justice across the country.

As I said in another post, if this was do or die for Trump, where are all the independent reporters bringing to light 4a.m. Republican ballot dumps in all those tony suburbs of Deplorableland? Where is the Democrat outrage at the illegal expulsion of Democrat poll watchers? How come we don't have images of Republicans doing instant drywall construction over public vote count windows? Where or where are the 100% blueblood voting precincts with zero votes for the opposition? Each one of those outrages has been noted and reported for Democrat-run satrapies...sorry, voting districts.

To entertain the notion these are all fantasies when video is available, when state voting officials are rolling back wholesale "mistakes" when they are uncovered, when honest whistleblowers have come forward risking job loss...is self-delusion of intergalactic proportions.

I don't know if Trump will be re-elected. But I had a lot more respect for rank and file Democrats before this election. How anyone could look at the multitude of violations of election fairness and casually dismiss it is beyond me.

Bailey Jones

Wayne, speaking just for myself, the reason I "look at the multitude of violations of election fairness and casually dismiss it" is the same reason I dismiss pizzagate, or Qanon's allegations of massive child sex rings among the "elites", or reports of Obama declaring martial law during the Jade Helm military exercises, or some African witch doctor hawking the benefits of hydroxychloroquine to ward off demon sex. Because it's mostly internet BS.

If these multitudes of violations were real, and substantial, and relevant to the election results, then you can bet that the Republican Party would be bringing them to the courts, as they should. If you're not happy that no one is taking these things seriously, blame the Republicans - it's their duty to protect their candidate. Or even more to the point, blame the internet trolls who posted all of this BS in the first place.

Here's how this is going to play out. People will see all these allegations on youtube and twitter and facebook and repeated on Fox News evening shows. They will get very upset. Trump & co. will take these allegations to the courts where they will either be thrown out or adjudicated with very limited impact to a few local vote counts. Then, rather than accept those results, Trump & co will blame the courts, and the media, and the Democrats, and their fellow Republicans, and "big tech" for a vast conspiracy of silence, and will spend the rest of their lives repeating the myth of how the election was stolen from little Donnie Trump - the world's greatest victim - over and over until it becomes a historical footnote to the chapter on the worst president ever.

I'm genuinely sad that you are so upset by all of this. I actually spent quite a bit of time last night lying awake thinking about it. But there's nothing I can do for you except hope that when the inevitable results come out you will be able to see that the real fraud here is the one in the white house.

Jim C.

Mr. Bailey,

There are plenty of credible allegations of fraud out there with people willing to testify to their observations. In addition, there is plenty of evidence of attempts to cover up said fraud (i.e. covering windows to prevent observers from seeing ballot counting https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/watch-detroit-workers-block-several-windows-prevents-observers/). Unless and until these anomalies are accounted for there can be no acceptance of Biden's win. Even if the provable fraud turns out to be insufficient to turn the election results around, I want to see the people responsible for these transgressions prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I will not stand by while the media and other never-trumpers try to ignore the irregularities of this election like they did Hunter Biden's laptop. Any fair minded person will admit that there is more evidence of election fraud and Biden's influence peddling than there was of Trump-Russia collusion. As Trump rightly tweeted a little while back: "For God's sake, arrest someone already!" The credibility of our democracy is in jeopardy here!

Bailey Jones

Bring forth the evidence and have it adjudicated. I'm 100% against voting fraud no matter who perpetrates it.

Trump has alleged massive voter fraud in multiple states, impugning the honesty and patriotism of thousands of poll workers and millions of voters. Since Trump is a habitual liar I don't believe it. It's entirely on Trump to either prove his assertions, with evidence, in court, or to admit he's wrong and apologize and concede defeat. Put up or shut up. Since we know he's not capable of admitting he's wrong or apologizing or conceding defeat; my concern is that he's going to burn down the house and destroy yet another of our institutions. And I hold everyone who remains on the Trump Train complicit in that destruction. It's time for Republicans to choose between evidence and due process, or innuendo and slander.

Let me repeat - I'm 100% against voting fraud no matter who perpetrates it. I pledge to accept the results of his court challenges no matter the outcome. How about you?

(Also bring forth all the "evidence" against Hunter, and the "evidence" against Hillary, and the "evidence" against Obama, and everyone else in the Big Scary Closet. I'm happy to accept the adjudication of all of it.)

Carlos Ponce

The "evidence" against Hillary? Hillary for America bought and paid for the fake dossier.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/2017/10/24/226fabf0-b8e4-11e7-a908-a3470754bbb9_story.html

Jim C.

Mr. Jones wrote: "And I hold everyone who remains on the Trump Train complicit in that destruction. It's time for Republicans to choose between evidence and due process, or innuendo and slander."

C'mon man! How can you say something like that when the never-trumpers went to such outrageous lengths to take down President Trump. Look at the Russia allegations based on a fabricated dossier paid for by Hillary Clinton. Then a baseless impeachment. For all I know, based on the cozy relationship between Biden, Inc. and China, the Covid pandemic may also have been a desperate ploy to remove him from office. After all, Covid was used as the excuse for expanding vote by mail which is where I believe most of the election fraud can be found. Even if they weren't involved in the virus' release they were certainly eager to take advantage of the pandemic to manipulate the election. Calls for unity by Biden and the Democrats will fall on deaf ears after the egregious behavior of the Left. This nation should be relieved that Republicans don't typically behave as Democrats do when things don't go their way Mr. Jones. If anyone can be blamed for the erosion of confidence in our election system it is the Democrat barbarian hoards who stopped at nothing to undo the 2016 election, plain and simple. Schiff, Schumer, Pelosi, and many other Democrats are the ones who have chosen innuendo and slander. Of this there can be no doubt.

Bailey Jones

All I have for you, Jim C, is either put up or shut up. Trump owns the department of justice, has been endorsed by every law enforcement agency in the land, and has appointed 100s of federal judges and 1/3 of the supreme court. For God's sake, arrest someone already!

Jim C.

Mr. Jones. I am hopeful that proof can be found to expose the Democrat’s election corruption. Please stop telling Trump supporters that they have to accept results which don’t exist yet. We will ‘put up’ in court. And I won’t shut up.

Bailey Jones

That's fair, Jim. I'll not insist that you or anyone else accept the election results until after Trump exhausts all of his legal remedies. And then I'll insist it insistently.

Ted Gillis

Wayne, you’ve been drinking Whiskey.

Jim Forsythe

Wayne, If you are not going to take it to the FBI, the courts or local election officials, whom are you going to present all that evidence to.

With out giving the proof to one of these groups, how is Trump going to prove that several states did not do the right thing?

Which states are the votes going change enough to have Trump stay in office?

Until multitude of violations of election fairness is proven ,most are not going to get upset. If it is proven, most people will demand that actions be taken against the ones that did it.

The USA is based on people having to prove something was done, and not just hearsay.

Ted Gillis

Here’s what’s happening, and Lindsey Graham alluded to it the other night on Fox.

He claims he is donating $500,000.00 to Trump’s defense fund, which I doubt. He then encourages everyone to donate to it. He asks the audience, “just think if 1 million people donate $5.00 each?”

Well guys this is a set up for one more grand heist on his way out the door. Go ahead and give them you’re credit card number, so they can ding it for $5.00 a month for eternity.

Carlos Ponce

If you don't have the money, I'll be glad to send $5 in your name, Ted. No need to thank me.

Kimberley Jones Yancy

It is exciting to see Americans so passionate about our Democracy. I pray that we will have wisdom to know that our Presidential leader only serves for four-eight years. He is not a dictator and does not stay in leadership forever which gives everyone HOPE to get along and allow our Democracy to LIVE. I pray for Wisdom and Peace.

Stuart Crouch

And stupidity knows no bounds. A fair and proper election process was conducted, preserving our democracy in the face of a deranged lunatics baseless allegations of voter fraud. The man is a really bad loser; no grace, no class & never any emotional intelligence or maturity. And his cult of morons are still banging the drum for this fool - the most dishonest, morally-corrupt excuse for a president, ever. That is a stink you cannot get off of you. The trumpanzees own every bit of it.

Biden 2020! ...and 2021, 2022. 2023 & 2024. Election is done; Facism is done; Dictatorial rule is done. Game over!

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