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Rusty Schroeder

Whoever got paid for that artist rendering needs to add some color and women next time. That looks like a dog park in the Heights with all the white men in polos. The kids look like they are right out of the 50's, never knew Galveston was that white and male dominated.

Michael Woodson

those are the statues from the train museum

Steve Fouga

I wish we could see this level of artistic and engineering detail on the Ike Dike!

Rusty Schroeder

I am sure for all the money spent studying and dreaming, they exist somewhere. But the plan changes with the next group that doesn't agree with it's placement. It's nothing more than a huge waste of money that doesn't even have funding.

Carlos Ponce

"Pictured are conceptual designs for storm surge gates at the entrance of Galveston Bay. These would be part of a proposed barrier system that could provide protection against tropical storms and hurricanes."
https://www.chron.com/local/article/Army-Corps-of-Engineers-insists-storm-modeling-13393218.php#photo-16477749

Steve Fouga

Thanks, Carlos, but my comment stands. I've looked all over, including in the Corps's report. There's not much...

Karen Sawyer

one of the if not the largest tax paying employers on the Island, they deserve this.

Wayne Holt

New condos just across the street, as well as a long established automotive repair business on one side, restaurant and commercial space across the street on the other, plus the only decent entrance to The Grand Opera parking lot right next to the proposed site on a street that already floods above the knee with just a grassy median currently in place. Not to mention the Galveston Seafarers Center and two other bars within a block. Mr. Webb from American National says they want to keep their employees “safe and dry during high water.” Can Mr. Webb explain why the adjoining property owners or the public at large should be treated differently than American National employees?

Does anyone seriously believe adding significant hard surface runoff from a block-wide raised plaza onto streets that already flood is a good idea? Carefully parse the following:
"...the design would mitigate any potential additional runoff the project creates." There won't be "potential additional runoff" when hard surface replaces grass; it is assured. Notice it is not said would avoid, eliminate or control the additional runoff. My dictionary says mitigate means "to make less severe or painful." That sentence says the design will mean less flooding than if they didn't have detention beneath it; there would still be MORE runoff than currently seen. Is that what they meant? If so, those officials who vote to accept this plan are voting for increased flooding of adjoining properties for the sake of American National Insurance Co. employee convenience.

As to the red herring of being the biggest taxpaying entity in Galveston, two observations: 1) since when does being well-off give anyone the right to flood their neighbors due to non-necessary construction, and; 2) if they are that well off, shouldn't they be able to afford a well-engineered pedestrian overpass that doesn't threaten to inundate their neighbors while keeping everyone's pants' legs dry?

Paul Harrington

I want to point out that you are talking about hard surface replacing grass. You are aware that the street is made of concrete and asphalt, right? The only greenery is that tiny green area in the middle. So it's not like it is going to be concrete poured over a field.

Wayne Holt

Yes, I am well aware of that as I live two blocks away. I am also aware that grass/soil is about six times more efficient at slowing runoff water as hard surfaces so any grass is better than more concrete. In addition, there is a line of landscaping along that entire street that also absorbs runoff water currently. A few potted plants aren't going to fill in for that, either.

This elevated platform will be draining in all directions, in effect channeling water directly to the businesses and adjoining streets. The American National building will be the only dry spot in the area...what a coincidence.

Here is a solution that would add less cost than the plaza while preserving what little flood protection there is at that spot. Since American National will be putting in a parking garage there, why not just use a walkway from the second floor to the Am Nat building surround? One elevator for the garage (I assume they would have to have one in anyway) and the cost of the skyway has got to be less than a complete plaza installation and would put Am Nat employees above the water while not making life harder for folks in that neighborhood. Add on a beautiful mural or metal art to the skyway and you have an attractive and functional addition. I am sure this must have come up in discussions about how to resolve this. Why is a skyway not being proposed instead of a solution that guarantees even worse flooding than the levels already seen there?

In all events, should this project be pushed through, I would like to suggest a name for the new plaza: The Hanging Gardens of Market St.

Wayne Holt

Paul, just to clarify. What you refer to as the tiny green area is actually one-third of the total width of the street there, which includes four lanes divided by the median. It also has trees on it which are maturing nicely. So no, it's not tiny relative to the area that is paved and it certainly is significantly better for flood mitigation than paving over the whole thing.

Karen Sawyer

“If the concern is I don’t want to get my feet wet, then issue them boots,” Mullican said.

Let me tell you mister.... boots won't cut it! I've had that nasty water up past my knees many times. It's disgusting!

Rusty Schroeder

Nasty water or not, you do this for one business just wait for the next to ask.

Ron Shelby

They've already been building and moving large numbers of employees up to League City for the last 15 years. Are they really committed to staying in Galveston, or will they leave a decade later after this has been put in place? Get a "long" term commitment if you are going to make such a significant change. Their recent actions don't necessarily say they are staying.

Wayne Holt

I'm actually surprised this has gotten as far as it has. With flooding downtown being as bad as it already is, the idea that a business--any business--is being considered to add to the flooding when alternatives clearly are available seems surreal.

We've been told the combination of subsidence, higher Bay levels, inadequate downtown drainage, inadequate pumps to outflow, high tides, slow moving rain events...all are making it harder and harder to keep downtown from going Venice in the future. Doesn't Council have enough challenges on the plate already when it comes to downtown flooding without encouraging more?

This should really be a,"We regret we won't be able to accommodate this request" response.

Karen Sawyer

They've been here for 114 years. How much more of a long term commitment do you think they need to give???

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