GALVESTON

A group of 40 people rallied in front of Galveston’s federal courthouse Thursday evening carrying homemade signs that said “Stop Trump” and chanting “Protect Mueller.”

The group was the local branch of a national effort to protest the firing of former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions — and a show of support for Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

“No one is above the law, not the president, not anyone,” Lyssa Graham, who organized the protest, said about President Donald Trump. “These steps that he’s taken show that he thinks he’s above the law.”

Trump fired Sessions, who had been attorney general for two years, on Wednesday, a day after the midterm elections. Trump replaced Sessions with Matthew Whitaker, a former Sessions aide who has been publicly critical of the Mueller investigation into claims of Russian meddling during the 2016 election.

Sessions had famously recused himself from the Mueller investigation, and some groups have said his firing amounts to interference in the probe.

MoveOn.org, a national progressive political action group, began organizing “rapid response” protests over potential interference in the Mueller probe last year.

Galveston’s protest was organized through the MoveOn program, Graham said.

Protesters said they were helping raise an alert analogous to a “if you see something, say something” warning in an airport.

“I think we’re in a constitutional crisis,” said Susan P. Baker, a former district court judge. “If we let Trump get away with haphazardly firing whoever, we really are losing all our rights.”

During the first half hour of the event, some cars honked as they drove by, in apparent support of the cause. One man stopped his car to yell “Trump 2020” at the group before driving off.

MoveOn announced Wednesday evening that Session’s firing, and the appointment of Whitaker as a interim attorney general, amounted to a threat to the investigation and triggered the rapid response protests.

Large gatherings of protestors were reported in New York City and Washington D.C. MoveOn advertised about 900 protests on its organizing website.

Graham said about 100 people had signed up to be alerted to the rapid protest. About half that many showed up. She said she wasn’t discouraged by the turnout.

“Next time there will be 60 and the time after that there will be 200,” she said. “What matters is that we show up.”

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Gary Miller

These nuts want you to think Trump violated some law because he did what the constitution said he could do. If Sessions had been fired when he reclused himself, as he should have been, Mueller would not have been hired. The illegal Mueller witch hunt would never have happened.

George Croix

MoveOn.org?
Figures.....
Well, protest away about whether a President can hire or fire any member of his Administration. It's good for the rest of us to know who ya'll are.......

If these...protesters...had a lick of sense and an ounce of honesty they'd be 'protesting' that Rod Rosenstein is 'in charge' of the Mueller' investigation'. HE, is the guy who signed off on the phony, KNOWN phony, 'dossier' that got all this rolling, AND he's the guy who WROTE the recommendation to fire Comey, and he's the guy who's a witness about same in THIS investigation. THERE is a real conflict of interest...the guy running the show is the guy who got it started in the first place by authorizing use of a fraudulent document. Yet HE is still there, after 2 years, despite the howls of the usual suspects about Pres. Trump 'might' fire him.

Unfixable......

George Croix

I wonder if the GDN will ever hire a reporter that might write a story after interviewing 40 people about how they are better off now with better job opportunities and a booming economy, rather than some ginned up BS that hasn't hasn't got an once of basis in fact, just the hysterical speculation of the 'tolerant' people.....
Holding breath....

Mary Stidham

I think it's terrific that 40 informed citizens took the time to peacefully protest the actions of our corrupt president on a rainy windy evening. I hope the three commentators will make an effort in the future to get informed as well.

Carlos Ponce

They are informed. Is Mary Stidham "informed" that moveon.org is a George Soros funded organization or does that even matter to you?

Dalton Logan

Are some of these 'well informed citizens' the same ones that were protesting Trump when he appointed Sessions?

Jim Forsythe

This is one of the Jeff Sessions supporters that now says we have a problem.
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said Thursday that the U.S. is on the "verge" of a constitutional crisis because of the forced resignation of Attorney General Jeff Sessions. "I think it’s a big mistake to let Sessions go," Manchin, who was the only Democratic senator to vote to confirm the former attorney general, said on "CBS This Morning."

Carlos Ponce

Jim, Joe Manchin is just trying to save his Democrat "street credit" by making such an asinine statement.

Jim Forsythe

My answer was to Dalton Logan who wanted to know if anyone supported Sessions and now is still supporting him and not Trump

Carlos Ponce

Jim, it's well known that anyone who doesn't meet Trump's expectations is quickly ADORED by Leftists. Remember they hated James Comey until Trump fired him. Now they adore him.

Jim Forsythe

My answer was to Dalton Logan who wanted to know if anyone supported Sessions and now is still supporting him and not Trump

Carlos Ponce

I know that, Jim. Just adding to the conversation. Now if you two want to be alone.....

George Croix

I don't need to be further informed to understand that it's entirely legal and Constitutional and even sensible for a President to hire and fire whomever he wants to work for him, or not....he doesn't HAVE to have a reason, or get permission from the 'resistance' to do so....I can only explain it to you, but you have to understand it yourself....
Now, 'scuse me, but I feel a sudden urge to go tie-dye a tee shirt.....can't imagine why.............

Gary Scoggin

A President can fire pretty much whomever he wants but not hire whomever he wants. Many jobs, including AG, require Senate approval. So it’s okay to have fired Sessions but his successor has to be Senate approved. (Which Whittaker, so far, has not been.)

Carlos Ponce

So who approved of MUELLER?????????????????????????
The House didn't. The Senate didn't. The President didn't.
Just Rosenstein. And Mueller is working this gig for millions out of taxpayers pockets. His job was done MONTHS ago. But when he gets $$$$$$$$$$$$ the investigation continues and expands. With as much as has been LEAKED out of his team, if they had ANYTHING on Trump, it would have been revealed.
No checks and balances here.
And Whittaker is NOT the AG, just the TEMPORARY, ACTING AG. DUH! Wait until an appointment is made.

George Croix

Well, we'll see if temporary is now a synonym for permanent.
Can't see much difference here, as we haven't had an AG for the last 2 years anyway, even WITH Senate approval........

Another truckload of 'found' ballots in Florida, and there will be one less 'Yea' vote, at least......

George Croix

Actually, Gary, after another cold Diet Coke, you make a good point, and the outcome may well hinge on whether there's any rule or law requiring the next in line of traditional job succession to fill the temporary vacancy....in government, I mean, as there certainly was no such automatic transferal where we worked....
Does Senate approval HAVE to be prior to a temporary fill, and does a deputy HAVE to be the person to do the filling?
We'll see....

Carlos Ponce

“I think we’re in a constitutional crisis,” said Susan P. Baker, a former district court judge. “If we let Trump get away with haphazardly firing whoever, we really are losing all our rights.”
I'm glad Susan P. Baker is a FORMER district court judge. From this rant it is apparent she has no earthly idea what is in the Constitution.
"constitutional crisis"?????????? Ridiculous!!!!!!!!

George Croix

She's got a great future ahead if she can get appointed to the 9th Circuit in S.F.....they are definitely on the same wave length...........
I guess that, though, is just another example of a "legal claim"....[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][rolleyes][whistling]

Jim Forsythe

"constitutional crisis"?????????? Ridiculous"
"In political science, a constitutional crisis is a problem or conflict in the function of a government that the political constitution or other fundamental governing law is perceived to be unable to resolve" You may not believe we are in a constitutional crisis, but we are. When the House starts looking at things that have happen and the White tries to push back, we will be in another constitutional crisis. If the Muller report comes out and says that the President did bad things, we will be in a constitutional crisis.
"Constitutional crises may arise from conflicts between different branches of government, conflicts between central and local governments, or simply conflicts among various factions within society"

George Croix

Bull-o-knee.....
EVERYTHING Pres. Trump does is a 'crisis' to the deranged 'resistance'.....
Who else but a head case would gripe about record, many all time, good economic conditions for American workers and prospective ones.....
Unless Junior WANTS to stay living in his old bedroom at home, now he can have a shot at getting out and actually doing for himself.....
They don't LIKE the President......
Well, maybe if they ever grow up they'll understand that's secondary to productivity.....
in a sane world, anyway......

Mary Stidham

Is it possible to have an intelligent discussion without name calling and disparaging remarks? I can't take you seriously when you use this fifth grade behavior in our discussion.

George Croix

I really don't care what you can or cannot take seriously, Mary.

That's entirely up to you....

Jim and I are old buddies from decades together in the refinery.....you can read along or go elsewhere...all the same to me....

Carlos Ponce

"You may not believe we are in a constitutional crisis, but we are."B
BULL STUFF! There is no "Constitutional Crisis". Point it out out in the article or amendment. You can't! It's just a Liberal talking point. NONSENSE!!!!!!

Jim Forsythe

"In political science, a constitutional crisis is a problem or conflict in the function of a government that the political constitution or other fundamental governing law is perceived to be unable to resolve"
Try and say that no conflicts exist.
"Constitutional crises may arise from conflicts between different branches of government, conflicts between central and local governments, or simply conflicts among various factions within society"
Article I, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution prevents anyone holding an “Office” from accepting presents or emoluments from “any King, Prince or Foreign State.” The Founders’ idea is to prevent foreign powers using gifts or money to corrupt the President’s loyalty to the U.S.
President Trump has violated the law because a king or foreign country has spent money at one of his businesses. But the president retained actual ownership of the companies, meaning that he still makes money from them. Foreign governments — including Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Georgia — have bought rooms or held events at Trump's D.C. hotel since he took office. The Embassy of Kuwait even switched an earlier booking at the Four Seasons to the Trump hotel.In January 2007, Trump promised to track profits from foreign governments and donate them to the U.S. Treasury. But the Trump Organization has not tracked those payments. Instead, it has suggested that it's the responsibility of those foreign governments to report the transactions.
lawmakers have charged that the president cancelled plans to relocate the FBI's headquarters, which is located on Pennsylvania Avenue across from the Trump hotel, to "prevent Trump Hotel competitors from acquiring the land.

Trump denies knowing the man he appointed as the nation's top law enforcement official.
"Conway and Katyal concede that the president has the power to make interim appointments in times of crisis – but they said Sessions' firing did not fit that bill.
"And even if it did, there are officials readily at hand, including the deputy attorney general and the solicitor general, who were nominated by President Trump and confirmed by the Senate," they said. "Either could step in as acting attorney general, both constitutionally and statutorily."
They said Trump is not qualified to decide Whitaker's suitability for the role because he is "hopelessly compromised by the Mueller investigation."

George Croix

Easy answer, just change the entire business into a 'Foundation', then live large...

Selective indignation....alive and well in these here United States.....

Jim Forsythe

"Easy answer, just change the entire business into a 'Foundation'" has not happen and will not unless he is forced too.

George Croix

Jim, as a very smart guy, you know that NOBODY spends millions to take a job that pays thousands, unless there's other benefits involved.

I'm just waiting to see whether then ex-Pres. Trumo tries to swipe the White House silver and salt and pepper shakers come January, 2025...or will he leave them for Pence...[beam][beam]

George Croix

Trumo?
Trump
NOT close enough....

Somebody put the O too close to the P on my keyboard...
I should either sue or start a 'protest' over that.......

Jim Forsythe

How many politicians' receive more in wages from the job, than is spent getting it?
How much is Trump getting paid? He is giving it all away, so what is in it for him?
It is a bit premature to look past 2021. Trump- may decide not to even run, you never know.
You may see a ticket of Joseph Kennedy III and Beto O'Rourke.
A third party ticket of John Kasich and maybe a Democrat, you never know.

George Croix

What;s in it for him?
Well, when already a billionaire, I'd say Proving he was right about how to stimulate the economy...so far....
And that he was right about how to get our 'friend's and enemies to pay attention.
And that he was right about how minorities jobs opportunities would be better off under his policies than under Democrat perpetual promises.
Summarized - ego trip........
[beam][beam]

Like Obama, only with positive results..........[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

Carlos Ponce

"Try and say that no conflicts exist."
NO conflict exists in this situation. ZERO, ZIP NADA.
Now if you can, which part of the Constitution you FEEL is in "crisis".

Carlos Ponce

The one you post does not apply.
You might as wel lapply it to President Barack Hussein Obama who received the Nobel Prize if you're going to S T R E T C H that far.

Carlos Ponce

"President Trump has violated the law because a king or foreign country has spent money at one of his businesses."
That is absolutely the STUPIDEST reason you've ever given.
How about the following:
Washington accepted a framed full-length portrait of King Louis XVI from the French ambassador to the United States. He also accepted a key to the Bastille from Marquis de Lafayette, who at the time was a French government official.
Thomas Jefferson accepted a bust of Czar Alexander I from the Russian government. He also took gifts from Indian tribes passed on by Lewis and Clark Western expedition. Those gifts from Indian tribes — whom Jefferson considered foreign nations — remain on display at Monticello to this day.
James Madison received a pair of pistols from Gen. Ignacio Alvarez, a South American revolutionary head of government. It appears Madison gave them to his successor, James Monroe, another founding father.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, study CREW v Trump:
http://www.nysd.uscourts.gov/cases/show.php?db=special&id=595\
CONCLUSION Defendant's motion to dismiss is GRANTED. Accordingly, Plaintiffs' claims and this case are DISMISSED.

Jim Forsythe

"President Trump has violated the law because a king or foreign country has spent money at one of his businesses."
That is absolutely the STUPIDEST reason you've ever given." It's part of the Foreign Emoluments Clause, not something I made up.
"CONCLUSION Defendant's motion to dismiss is GRANTED. Accordingly, Plaintiffs' claims and this case are dismissed " WRONG
On February 16, 2018, the dismissal of the suit was appealed by CREW], primarily on an economically-informed theory of emolument-related injury to competitors] with all briefs filed by both parties by June 27. The hearing of oral arguments before a three-judge panel of the Second Circuit has been set for October 30, 2018

One of the other cases.
Richard Blumenthal, et al. v. Donald J. Trump, No. 1:17-cv-01154 (D.D.C. 2017), is a case pending before the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.
The plaintiffs, 30 Senators and 166 Representatives, allege that the defendant, Donald Trump, is in violation of the Foreign Emoluments Clause, a constitutional provision that bars the president or any other federal official from taking gifts or payments from foreign governments without the approval of Congress, of which the plaintiffs form a minority of about 35%.
With lawyers from the Constitutional Accountability Center, the plaintiffs filed their complaint on June 14, 2017, shortly after similar lawsuits from watchdog groups, economic competitors, and state and local governments made the news. Oral arguments were heard in June 2018, mostly arguing over standing to sue
Because Defendant has failed to come to Congress and seek consent before accepting foreign emoluments that have been confirmed through public reporting, it is impossible to know whether Defendant is accepting other foreign emoluments that have not yet been made public. Indeed, through his personal attorney, Defendant has indicated that he does not believe the Constitution requires him to seek or obtain Congress’s consent before accepting benefits arising out of exchanges between foreign states and his businesses
Oral arguments were heard in June 2018, mostly debating whether lawmakers have standing to sue the president. U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan ruled on September 28, 2018 that the plaintiff members of Congress have standing to sue in the case, but left for another day any ruling on other arguments raised by the Department of Justice's motion to dismiss


Carlos Ponce

Jim, when all this falls through unfortunately you will seek another reason to call for his impeachment. And that too will fail.

Mary Stidham

Actually guys it wasn't so much the firing of sessions as it was who he replaced him with. The protocol is to replace the AG with the next in line who would be Rosenstein. Trump put an unqualified man who had formed an opinion of the Mueller probe before he had even read the evidence the probe has collected. Also like many of Trump's appointees he is involved with a fraudulent company that has bilked people out of 25 million dollars that the FBI is investigating.

Carlos Ponce

The President has not appointed an Attorney General to replace Sessions, only an "acting, TEMPORARY" one.
By Mary Stidham's criteria NO ONE can be appointed AG. EVERYBODY has "formed an opinion of the Mueller probe". GET REAL!!!!!

Mary Stidham

The evidence has not come out yet so how are they forming an opinionm Trump fill the Supreme Court vacancy with a man who said he does not think the President can be subpoenaed. Now he has appointed an acting AG with a man who has stated his opinion on the Mueller probe without all the evidence instead of going to the next in line at the Justice Dept. He is stacking the deck so he can take illegal actions before the Democrats take control of the House. He is going against the rule of law. How can you not be concerned about that?

Carlos Ponce

The President may appoint whomever he wants. The Senate must approve of certain positions. " He is going against the rule of law." No he's not. He's following the CONSTITUTION.

Jim Forsythe

As long as he is using the Vacancies Reform Act

George Croix

Obama put a woman on SCOTUS who worked on the passage of Obamacare, yet did not recuse herself when it came up for the court's scrutiny.
That's a LOT more OPEN conflict of interest than an opinion about whether a particular procedure or circumstance applies.
Everyone has opinions, but some of us manage quite well to do our jobs first, and let our opinions be picked up at the gate when we badge out at the end of the day.....
Best if we all did that.....

George Croix

Yet, the complaint is conflict of interest with Mueller's hunt by the appointee, something alleged by past words, while Rosenstein is the poster boy for conflict of interest with it, something KNOWN by past deeds directly involved in the investigation.

Time to dip again into the 'ol grievance bucket.....[wink]

Mary Stidham

Please give specifics regarding Rosenstein's conflict of interest otherwise you are just repeating Fox news talking points.

George Croix

Rosenstein SIGNED the reauthorization that used the phony 'dossier' that was the basis for the whole mess, and he WROTE the recommendation to fire James Comey.

There's a cure for that Fox Phobia....[beam]...but, like alcoholism, one has to WANT to get better.....[beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam][beam]

George Croix

No doubt tomorrow these same 'protesters' will have returned with signs demanding Mueller investigate the election meddling in Broward and Palm Beach Counties, Florida....where actual results have been, uh, re-arranged....

No?
Of course not......

Mary Stidham

I'm still waiting for your evidence that their was meddling in the elections in Florida. Seems like you are changing the subject .

George Croix

The subject is Sessions fired, and the supposed hair-on-fire reaction to that is fear that the 'Russian election meddling' hunt is in jeopardy, yet, we have election meddling right now by members of the Democrat Party in Florida, for sure.....
If meddling is a problem worth investigating, and correcting, shouldn't ALL of it be?
You do know that a judge has already ruled that violations of the Florida State Constitution related to elections have been committed? And that the person at the center of it has a history of election related illegalities....?
Of course you do...anyone paying attention certainly must....
Although the 'resistance' has been going hysterical for the last 2 years about Russian interference, NOBODY is alleging that the Rooskies 'found' a truckload of ballots, after the election, that just happened to benefit the apparent loser, as is happening in Florida, and, to a lesser extent, although with similar outcome so far, in Arizona.
Shades of Al Franken's ultimate 'win' a decade ago after a box of ballots were 'found' on the back seat of the car that the election judge drives to work daily, that just happened to benefit Al.
My evidence????
Funny stuff.....

Lisa Blair

LOL! You guys are the last gasping breaths of a dying patriarchy. You come here daily to try to keep yourselves and your outdated politics relevant. It couldn't be more apparent that the US is rebuilding it's government to reflect itself. Women, African Americans, Muslims, Latinos. It's coming. Even to Texas!

George Croix

You never did answer the very legitimate question about why you'd invite people to enter our nation illegally and use it's resources for 'free' at will, but would not allow the same in your business.
Funny, huh.....[whistling]

George Croix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

George Croix

ps:
Right now, "Women, African Americans, Muslims, Latinos" are benefiting more under Pres. Trumps policies that have created all time high jobs and opportunities for those very demographics you name, after being screwed over by the previous President...again, after yet another round of leftists promises unrealized...for about the past 50 year...plus.....
THAT is rebuilding the government to positive gain, as WE are the government....
Could just be, now that the folks realize they CAN be independent, that the gasping is from a different direction.....
When all you have is identity politics and dependency to offer, it's probably not a good idea to talk about 'grasping'.....

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