LEAGUE CITY

A shortage of bell ringers has some at the Salvation Army of Galveston County concerned the red kettle campaign — the nonprofit’s traditional holiday fundraising effort — could be tougher this year.

Keri Heath: 409-683-5241; keri.heath@galvnews.com or on Twitter @HeathKeri.

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Walter Dannenmaier

It's time for the Salvation Army to walk the CRT talk. Can it be that white people dollars are racist dollars? Perhaps for the 2021 holidays, the red kettles should be a safe-space for dollars from POC. Better still, in the spirit of inclusivity, each bell-ringer can have two kettles. One labeled "Donations", the other labeled "Donations from Racist White People". Creating such options for the America of 2021 should make for a record-setting campaign.

Ivory Rubin

Welcome to a looming...and growing...multiplicity of people who haven't a single credible clue of what Critical Race Theory is about. But, they decide to speak about it in ways that clearly demonstrates their extensive expertise in misinformation, conflation, and/or obfuscation. Unless you have been enrolled as a fourth-year grad student @Harvard Law School (the only place CRT has been taught), stop and walk away! The process of "removing all doubt" has already begun.

Carlos Ponce

"Harvard Law School (the only place CRT has been taught)" FALSE.

Ivory Rubin

Prove it...unqualified opinion is not empirical evidence. This is not a rowdy school board meeting. Name a single school or school district where CRT is in their curriculum.

Ivory Rubin

Another of the looming multiplicity...without a single credible clue of CRT, but can't resist the opportunity for divisiveness.

Jim Claffy

Back in July, of this year, it was reported that the Loudon County School District paid $34,000 to the Equity Collaborative for CRT training for its teachers. This article (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/07/03/va-school-district-blows-34k-on-crt-training-for-staff-then-claims-they-dont-teach-it-1098177/) gives details. The information was obtained via FOIA request. That is pretty damning Ivory, don’t you think?

Carlos Ponce

Criticalrace.org

created by William Jacobson, features a state-by-state list of more than 200 colleges and universities promoting critical race theory — which he describes as “a radical ideology that focuses on race as the key to understanding society, and objectifies people based on race.”

In addition, there are tens of thousands of teachers (including Texas) who teach using CRT.

"Is Critical Race Theory Taught in K-12 Schools? The NEA Says Yes, and That It Should Be."

https://reason.com/2021/07/06/critical-race-theory-nea-taught-in-schools/

Want to see where NEA (National Education Association) promotes CRT? See:

"New Business Item 39"

https://web.archive.org/web/20210705234008/https://ra.nea.org/business-item/2021-nbi-039/

And TSTA (Texas State Teachers Association) is affiliated with NEA . Although it is illegal in Texas to use CRT in public schools, some teachers still implement.

Carlos Ponce

"without a single credible clue of CRT" Open your eyes.

Ivory Rubin

Critical race theory (CRT) is a cross-disciplinary intellectual movement that began in the United States in the post-civil rights era as 1960s landmark civil rights laws were being eroded and schools were being re-segregated. With racial inequalities persisting even after civil rights legislation was enacted, CRT scholars in the 1970s and 1980s began reworking and expanding critical legal studies' (CLS) theories on class and economic structure and the law to interrogate the role of U.S. law in perpetuating racism. They said that the liberal notion of value-neutral U.S. laws had a significant political role in maintaining a racially unjust social order, where formally color-blind laws continue to have racially discriminatory outcomes.

CRT is a framework of analysis grounded in critical theory which originated in the mid-1970s in the writings of several American legal scholars, including Derrick Bell, Alan Freeman, Kimberlé Crenshaw, Richard Delgado, Cheryl Harris, Charles R. Lawrence III, Mari Matsuda, and Patricia J. Williams. One tenet of CRT is that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing, and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals. It is an intellectual analysis, based on documented U.S. history, that has been in existence for more than FIFTY (50) years. The training that teachers (adults, not students) received is like most staff inservice training...to better prepare adult teachers to provide authentic information. Does NOT encourage teachers to indoctrinate or encourage black students to embraced victimization, nor have white students detest their ethnicity, heritage, nor our country. It is about systems and institutions with a dark side in American history...how far they have improved, and how much better those systems and institutions can become for every American.

Curtiss Brown

Thank you, Ivory, for your reasonable and rational explanation.

Carlos Ponce

"Thank you, Ivory, for your reasonable and rational explanation." Not hers.

Ivory copied and pasted from Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory

It's okay to do that as long as you acknowledge the source as not being your own original work - which you did not do.

Joe Biden did the same thing. They called it plagiarism.

Curtiss Brown

Now that you know the source of the rational and reasonable you should take it to heart.

Carlos Ponce

There's a reason why schools do not accept wikipedia as a source for scholastic work.

Walter Dannenmaier

Dear Dr Rubin, I value all the citizens of Galveston. This includes you! If I didn't, I should have left long ago. But I intend to use gentle mockery as I see fit on anything that strikes me as preposterous. FYI, if I choose to be condescending and insulting, there will be no doubt about it. Meanwhile, gas on about CRT. Few here seem to be buying what you are selling.

Ivory Rubin

Obviously, white people's "dollars" are NOT racist. But those who pose those types of questions and comments, brings them into question. Actually, it just may present a cringe-worthy illustration of them!!

Walter Dannenmaier

I am delighted to assist you, dear Ivory, by bringing into question the idea that white people's dollars maybe racist! OK, apply 4th year Harvard Law School logic to PROVE those dollars aren't racist. Even though they are earned by white people and used by white people to secure goods and services that interest white people.

Ivory Rubin

You may refer to me as Dr. Rubin, Mr. Rubin, or Ivory...but don't be condescending and insulting by referring to me as "dear". As for "down the racist rabbit hole" you're attempting to travel, you'll have to make that trip on your own.

Carlos Ponce

Take a chill pill, Ivory. He was attempting to be nice with a term of endearment. You may call me "dear" if you like.[beam]

Carlos Ponce

Ivory, I've been called "dear" before in these forums. There was no offense:

Gary Scoggin Oct 28, 2020 10:48am

The 14th Amendment as reinforced by subsequent SCOTUS decisions, make the Bill of Rights powers “delegated to the United States by the Constitution”; therefore, the 10th Amendment doesn’t apply here.

Carlos Ponce Oct 28, 2020 12:12pm

10th Amendment applies.

Gary Scoggin Oct 28, 2020 1:15pm

Yes, dear.

Carlos Ponce Oct 29, 2020 4:59am

Apparently Gary Scoggin failed to read WHY we are rated low. Interesting that the counties that have inaccuracies in their voter rolls are run by Democrats.

Gary Scoggin Oct 29, 2020 7:36am

Yes, dear.

Ahhhhh... wasn't that nice!

Carol Dean

Mr. Dannenmaier, some people just are not willing to be confronted by the truth. Along with you, I will "stand my ground". Thank you for speaking up!

Carol Dean

Keep Talking, Ivory. You just keep digging yourself in deeper.

rick cawley

I’m disappointed to read the Salvation Army spokesperson attribute benefits flowing into a community leading to a lack of workers. Ironic, really, to read that statement from a charity that provides benefits to people in the community! I hope that statement was taken out of context.

Bailey Jones

[thumbup]

Carol Dean

I hope people realize that The Salvation Army is a Christian based organization where different pastors, preachers, ministers, etc. serve to "share" with those "in need". Maybe someone needs to remind the "Army" to return to their original intent and not attack white individuals. Somehow, all of this CRT, BLM, etc. stuff is Backfiring on the organizers. L.et's all just try and be NICE for a change!

Robert Dee

Go woke, go broke. Especially in this instance, considering the segments of society that historically are more charitable givers, are being demonized for the sins of another. Shame.

T.W. Day

Very well said.

Carol Dean

Totally Agree! It is almost pathetic where some of these people try to mislead the truth with their pathetic comments.

Emman Sull

[thumbup]

Bill Sterchi

I put money in the Red Kettle this morning. I will do it at every one of them I see. Been giving to them 51 years and not about to stop now. Their support in the community speaks for itself. Race is a block on a piece of paper. If one wants to go further, just because someone's skin pigment is different, does not make them different in any other way - UNLESS THEY CHOOSE TO. It's what a man (or woman) carries in their heart that defines them. Character is not meaningless, it's more meaningful than almost any other trait. God Bless us all.

T.W. Day

Anytime an organization gets onboard with a controversial program they set themselves up for any backlash they may receive. In the case of the Salvation Army adopting Critical Race Theory teachings they have brought on themselves that very backlash. As for my family and I, our "racist white" money will not go into the Salvation Army buckets ever again. I will not apologize for anything one of my ancestors did 50, 100, 200 or 300 years ago. That was then and this is now.

Carol Dean

You said it all, plain and simple. I used to support the SA , that will NOT be happening in the future. They have brought this on themselves and there is no one else to blame.

Ted Gillis

TW, whatever pittance that you choose not to donate to the Salvation Army, there are thousands of us who will.

Emman Sull

[thumbdown]

Gary Scoggin

The Salvation Army does a lot of good for a lot of people. It’s sad that the Trumpist snowflakes around here take an opportunity to bash them because somebody in their organization writes a draft document on race relations. Do you think that the people they are helping really care?

Walter Dannenmaier

Gary, are you using "snowflakes" as a racial term?

Gary Scoggin

No. I've seen Snowflakes in many different colors.

Bill Sterchi

"Trumpist Snowflakes", now that's a good one. You think that one up all by yourself?

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