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Jack Reeves

If I had lived during the Civil War, I would have sided with old Sam Houston and resisted Texas' decision to leave the Union. But, I still see the need to leave these statues in place; they remind us of a dark time in our history and also of an effort to soothe the wounds of resentment that still existed in our State when they were erected. Why not add a statue of Norris Wright Cuney or Dr. King to remind us that the war did result in many positive changes? There are highly talented people in Galveston who could provide that service.

Kenneth Macpherson

Bastrop County Commissioners Court 7 July 2020

Notice of Special Meeting

Bastrop County Commissioners Court

Tuesday, July 7, 2020 at 9:00 a. m. at the Jerry Fay Wilhelm Center for the Performing Arts, 1401 Cedar St, Bastrop, Texas

Call to order

Public Hearing: regarding racial injustices, interracial tensions, and ways to promote equality for all, including consideration of removing from the courthouse lawn monuments that mention Confederacy; Judge Pape.

Paul Pape, County Judge

Mel Hamner, Commissioner Precinct # 1

Clara Beckett, Commissioner Precinct # 2

Mark Meuth, Commissioner Precinct # 3

Dorian Snowden, Commissioner Precinct # 4

being four members present at the Center, Commissioner Beckett via WebEx and a quorum and Rose Pietsch, County Clerk, ex-officio.

Judge Pape announced that he received 38 written comments and that he will accept written comments until 5:00 p. m. Today. He also asked that if the speakers had written materials to please bring them to the stage after the presentations so that he could go back over them.

Audience was asked to stand if they wanted an opportunity to speak. Numbered cards were given out so that the audience could address the topics at hand. Once the numbers were given out it was announced that each member of the audience would have two minutes to address the Court, in an effort to be out of the Center by Noon so the Center could be cleaned for the next event.

There were six invited speakers. The meeting began with 10 minute presentation from Dock Jackson, Steve Edmonton, Ron DeShay and Carl Rees each giving their reasons on why the monuments should be removed or relocated or allowed to remain on the Courthouse lawn.

Fifty people addressed the Court and audience with their statements on the subjects of the agenda.

The final two invited speakers addressed the Court and audience: Pastor Bernie Jackson and Cheryl Lee.

Judge Pape thanked the audience for being respectful toward all the speakers. He stated this Public Hearing represents democracy at its best and that the discussion will continue.

Having concluded all the business on the Agenda, Judge Pape declared the meeting adjourned at 12:09 p. m.

Bastrop County Commissioners approve removal of Confederate statues

By Natalie Martinez

Published about 27 July 2020

Bastrop County

FOX 7 Austin

BASTROP, Texas - Two symbols of the Confederacy will be removed from Bastrop County’s courthouse grounds.

Commissioners gave the greenlight Monday with a majority vote and one abstention, marking a victory for Cheryl Lee who not only comes from a long line of social activists, but is also a part of the Bastrop 5, a group who advocated for the monuments to be removed since June.

Bastrop joins the long list of cities moving to take down Confederate statues following civil unrest across the nation. Bastrop 5 member Madeline Eden said the county was not comfortable with the idea at first but after advocates rallied and spoke up at public hearings, the commissioners listened to the people.

Carlos Ponce

The two Bastrop County Monuments are "an obelisk erected by the United Daughters of the Confederacy in 1910 and a granite stone memorializing Confederate soldier and former Texas Governor Joseph D. Sayers".

The obelisk portrays crossed swords on one side of the base, crossed Confederate flags on another above the words "CSA - In memory of the confederate Soldiers of Bastrop County.". The third side displays a star surrounded by a wreath. The fourth side displays a Confederate Battle Flag with the inscription:

"Tell it as you may

It Never Can Be Told:

Sing It As You Will-

It Never Can Be Sung

The Story of the Glory

Of The Men Who Wore the Gray"

The second is a pink granite marker to former Texas Governor Joseph D. Sayers, governor of Texas from 1899 to 1903. During the Civil War he served in the 5th Texas Regiment, a cavalry. Following the war he opened a school, studied law, admitted to the bar. A member of the Democrat Party he served in the Texas House. He spent three years as chairman of the Texas State Democratic Executive Committee. He presided over the state Democratic convention in both 1876 and 1878. Later he was elected to represent the Texas 9th Congressional District in the US House.Picture and inscription at:

https://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WMPE10_Home_Town_of_Texas_Confederate_Major_Joseph_D_Sayers

Neither monument bears any semblance to the statue in front of the Galveston County Courthouse.

Leigh Cowart

What is your point? And why would I care to follow the sheep?

Kenneth Macpherson

Caldwell County Commissioners Court

Below is a link to the Caldwell County (Lockhart, TX) Commissioners Court meeting that voted 4 to 1 to move their confederate monument to their museum. You should watch this 25 minute video. It is easy to que it up to item # 5. They have an African American male and an Anglo female commissioner and 3 white male commissioners.

5. Discussion/Action to consider and take possible action on the recommendation from the Confederate Monument Committee to move the Confederate Monument. Speaker: Judge Haden; Cost: None; Backup: 1

Kenneth Macpherson

https://caldwellcountytx.new.swagit.com/videos/74093

Carlos Ponce

Cost: None - They are seeking donations to have them moved. They're still there. But it's only been a month.

Robert Braeking

My momma always said, "Stupid is as stupid does." Removing all these statues is stupid. Those who wish to do so..........you decide. My momma knows.

Kenneth Macpherson

Caldwell County commissioners vote to remove Confederate monument

By Bridget Spencer

Published July 28

Caldwell County

FOX 7 Austin

CALDWELL COUNTY, Texas - In a 4-1 vote, Caldwell County commissioners decided to remove the Confederate soldiers’ monument, which has been on the courthouse lawn since 1923.

“We have never had a place in America. This is a great start for America to heal,” said Margaret Carter, county resident and director of “Where We Thrive.”

Carter grew up in Caldwell County and recalls how she felt seeing that monument downtown. “As long as that statue stayed present we knew we were not welcome downtown,” she said.

She spoke at Tuesday's commissioners' court meeting, advocating for the removal of the monument in order for the county and the country to heal. Carter is asking the county to keep it covered while it sits in limbo.

“If you want to honor your heroes they should be in a museum. You can go visit it and tell your children about the history of it,” she said.

The decision was met with some opposition. Members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans were in attendance. They said the monument honors soldiers and should be kept on the lawn.

“Even though they admitted it's a soldiers’ memorial, they are putting all that aside to cave in to the popular sentiment of this particular time in our history. We think that is shortsighted and wrong,” said Shelby K. Little with the group.

“The fact they are using dead soldiers as an excuse to promote white supremacy in public...even if I were a descendant of a Confederate veteran, I wouldn’t want that monument there either,” said county resident Cody Kimbell.

The county will place the monument in the nearby Caldwell County Museum. Little is hoping commissioners can change that decision.

“As this process goes along we hope at some point they will reconsider what they have done,” said Little.

S. Claire Green

Dear Galveston County Commissioners:

[I apologize for not appearing in person as I am a high risk individual, so please accept this letter as my testimony/stance on this critical issue for the peace of our community, thank you for reading]

**Please VOTE IN FAVOR of the removal of the Confederate statue at the Galveston County Courthouse**

"Confessions of a Confederate Descendent, Southern, White Woman & WHY I STAND for the Removal of the Confederate Monuments"

by Saralee Claire Green

I was born in/raised in 'LA' aka 'Lower Alabama' & am the decedent of TWO, highly decorated CONFEDERATE Cavalry officers (they were brothers, signed up in 1st wave once TX declared for Confederacy, over 200 successful engagements, neither died or injured, so pretty much bad-to-the-bone warriors) (on my father's father's side). In addition, I  am the descendant of another key Civil War era pair of brothers (on my father's mother's side), in this case, both state Congressmen! One for the Union, one for the Confederacy... Literally - Brother against Brother, on a huge, blood-spilling  scale... Let that sink in....

My parents were going to have kids until they had a boy... When I was born, Green GIRL#6, mama had a traumatic birth, & now, no hope of a boy... So, papa Willson named me the name he was saving for his 'son'... LEE, after his favorite all time military commander, yep, Confederate General Robert E. Lee.

As you can see, I am no stranger to the south's passion for it's Confederate history. I get it.

Fast forward to today:

- I have been LISTENING to 'discussions/debates' etc on this topic. I see both have pros & cons

- I am HEARING first-hand accounts from (too many to count) real life, alive today, human beings (including personal friends... Not just something I saw on social media...) that describe sincere, gut-wrenching, heartbroken, grief coupled with centuries long trauma... of how they feel when they see these 'in our faces in our sacred civil spaces' monuments... Monuments that glorify their ancestors enslavement, tortures, murders... That were mostly erected in the 1900s to intimidate 'newly freed black men' and halt their newly acquired freedoms and rights.

I do not know about you.... But when I put myself in the shoes of those negatively affected... When with a humble heart I ask my God to help me truly see a different point of view... When I personally speak with my fellow human beings and they tell me these sincere griefs/traumas/pains... When I pray: God, help me love my neighbor as myself... As you have commanded me to do... I canNOT not take positive actions. Actions that just might help heal the wounds of our fellow brothers & sisters, of our wounded NATION.

In conclusion, I FIRMLY stand with my fellow, negatively affected brothers & sisters, and say: no more... Galveston County Commissioners: please, VOTE to remove the Confederate Monument.

[I understand a PLAN is needed to REMOVE the monument. I am an engineer, and will gladly donate my time to help create a solid plan to complete the task at hand. AND: right now, your constituents need to see your support of their wishes. Vote for the REMOVAL.]

PS - For those who want to 'preserve' these monuments, I applaud you. They are indeed a part of our history. I suggest they be carefully relocated to appropriate, historical education settings, such as the museum down the street, or a local Confederate graveyard, etc. Please, let's be sure to take lessons from the world-wide playbooks.... When people are in enough pain that it turns to anger... Many 'historical monuments/masterpieces' have been consequently destroyed. Let's not repeat these mistakes. This is America, and we have civil processes to do this... Including the upcoming Galveston County Commissioners Court. Even if you are in the 'I'm not happy about this camp', for the sake of preserving the monuments, let this PS sink in... And choose 'relocation'.

Carlos Ponce

Thank you for the applause. I ask the County Commissioners to KEEP the monument. I don't have White Confederate descendant guilt. My ancestry is the deep south - South of the Border. So I have no dog in this fight. But I want history preserved as a learning tool.

Kenneth Macpherson

NATIONAL & WORLD AFFAIRS

Must we allow symbols of racism on public land?

Legal scholar and historian puts the push to remove Confederate statues in context

BY Colleen Walsh, Harvard Staff Writer

GAZETTE: Many believe that taking the statues down is an attempt to cover up or erase history. Do you agree?

GORDON-REED: No. I don’t. History will still be taught. We will know who Robert E. Lee was. Who Jefferson Davis was. Who Frederick Douglass was. Who Abraham Lincoln was. There are far more dangerous threats to history. Defunding the humanities, cutting history classes and departments. Those are the real threats to history.

From the Statement on Confederate Monuments

Approved by AHA Council August 28, 2017

American Historical Association

400 A Street SE, Washington, DC

202-544-2422

historians.org

A monument is not history itself; a monument commemorates an aspect of history, representing a moment in the past when a public or private decision defined who would be honored in a community’s public spaces.

To remove such monuments is neither to “change” history nor “erase” it. What changes with such removals is what American communities decide is worthy of civic honor.

Carlos Ponce

What's next, remove the name of the island, city, county, hotel because Bernardo de Gálvez imported slaves to Spanish Louisiana?

Susan Baker

Re: The Offensive Statue at 722 Moody (In front of the Galveston County Courthouse)

Commissioners:

Removal of the offensive statue should be a unanimous vote. Clearly the statue offends some of our citizens. Which of us would intentionally hurt our friends and neighbors? I think none. Move the statue to a museum where one can see it by choice if one so desires. Our tax dollars have been spent on less deserving issues. Vote to remove it, remove it, and put the issue to bed. Galveston doesn’t need such divisiveness.

Susan P. Baker, Retired District Court Judge

Carlos Ponce

Susan, did you find the statue offensive when you sat on the bench? Did you find it so offensive you had to divert your eyes and look elsewhere entering the building? Or do you find it offensive only recently?

Wayne D Holt

I am encouraged those who clearly want the statue removed have gone about attempting to achieve this THE RIGHT WAY. And that is to muster whatever support they have in the community and appealing to those officials with the heavy responsibility to decide. By not defacing or destroying this monument on your own volition, you have immeasurably helped your cause, even among those who disagree with you. While I disagree with the wholesale obliteration of public monuments that are part of our history, I respect the honorable way those who wish to see it removed have gone about that process here.

This respect for the rule of law and civil discourse will go a long way toward healing whatever wounds may remain on either side after a decision is made. What you are doing is in the best tradition of American justice and is a much-needed alternative to the rancor that spawned that terrible war and its aftermath.

Theresa Elliott

Instead of removing history, create new statues that depict Juneteenth or other great events in History. But lest we forget.....

Michael Jozwiak

I am not opposed to removing the Confederate statue at the county court house, but I regret it being done and I am opposed to its destruction. It is part of the history of our country - good, bad, or ugly. Germany doesn’t have Nazi statues on public property, but they teach that history. Toppling, burning, smashing, defacing statues defame the talent of the artists who crafted them and the era that glorified them, now presently abhorred in the public mind. However, at one time these were revered. Some call it “Southern Pride” while others regard that as a euphemism for pro-slavery attitudes, white supremacy, and racism.

“History is written by the victors.” History results from the events of its time, evolves over the decades and may change to conform to current public attitudes. Should we take down the Washington monument because he owned slaves, or take his portrait off the dollar bill? When will white supremacists demand Lincoln’s face be removed from the five dollar note? Will white pride ever get enough power to conceivably demand this?

If the courthouse statue is offensive today, why is no one mentioning the monument to General Sidney Sherman, the CSA commander of Galveston during the Civil War? Why isn’t that monument also on public property, the median on Broadway, equally offensive? What about the monument to the Ten Commandments on public property at 23rd and Broadway? Could that be offensive to other religions? Using the logic of those protesting the court house statue, both monuments on Broadway should likewise be removed.

There are scores, or rather hundreds if not more, possibly ‘offensive’ statues, monuments, and memorials in public buildings and spaces across all fifty states and in federal building, including the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington DC. Should all those locations be surveyed? Should those statues branded offensive today be removed now? Should they be hidden?

Should our state and local governments bow down to demands to remove statues. Rather than having these artworks defaced or destroyed, yes. However, install them in museums, they’ve not yet been under attack. At those locations place written historical summaries relating to the character portrayed listing both the offensive and good deeds of the subject. Not only preserve them, but explain them in an arena available to the public, a museum but not a public or government building or space.

I’ve been a history buff for decades, intended to go into teaching, but life got in the way. I’ve collected a database of thousands of items sorted by date of good, bad, and bizarre historical facts that I planned to use in teaching, and I continue adding to it. One favorite quote is from Georg Hegel, an 18th century German philosopher. “Man learns from History that man learns nothing from History.” We are way overdue to correct that.

Julie H. Bennett

We repeat...

John E Sr. Macrini

Leave the statue where it is. Any attempt to remove it is aligned with Cancel Culture and suppression of history. It serves as a reminder of Texas and American history in a reasonable public environment. Any attempt to move it or place it in a museum would be an unreasonable expenditure of taxpayer money. This is Cancel Culture ideology, pure and simple.

timothy spencer

I have ancestors that fought for the Confederacy one spending far too much time being treated worse than any animal in a Union prison after being captured. I may have one relative that fought with the Union,. I never researched because it is really not much interest to me. The only reason these men fought for the north or south was strictly because of where they lived. I don't believe any type of slavery is right and I seriously doubt that any of my ancestors did either. None of them were rich and didn't own slaves. They all picked cotton to be able to eat not buy a new car and some of them lived in dirt floor houses. Now that's my background but I am not in favor of removing any civil war statue period. My wife & I visited several battle fields and the history in invaluable but not to someone that just wants to stir up crap or politicians that want to kiss butt with the blacks. I have black friends as well as white friends and all of what is going on doesn't have anything to do with the murder of G. Floyd it is a political move to divide this country. Finally let me just say this. If you take this one down take down Jack Johnson. It offends many people in fact take down any statues that have anything to do with blacks, they might offend the Japanese. If you do take any down just because it's white heroes of the civil war, a war they had no choice but to fight in then I will not vote for any person that was in favor of removal of these statues. Not only will I not vote for them but I will talk with many people to do the same. I won't vote for a democrat ever for any reason but I won't vote for YOU if you remove these statues. Grow a spine and quit kissing butt eventually it will get you.

Carlos Ponce

"The only reason these men fought for the north or south was strictly because of where they lived."

You can add conscription to that reason. Until the Civil War, the US had a volunteer Army, Navy, Marines. All males between the ages of 20 and 45 had to sign up for the draft including resident aliens seeking citizenship. If drafted and you did not want to go you could buy your way out of military service for $300 or you could find someone to take your place. Buying your way out of service led to riots in New York City since $300 was out of the reach of many save the wealthy.

The Confederate Conscription Act affected men aged 18 to 35. This was later changed to include men aged 17 to 50. Substitutes were permitted until 1863. Exempt from the Confederate Draft were state officials, Christian Ministers, professors and teachers, druggists, hospital attendants, mine, foundry, cotton and wool factory workers. Added later to the list were plantation overseers if the plantation had at least 20 slaves. Volunteers could select officers, draftees could not. There were 12,000 desertions from among conscripted North Carolina farmers. The Southern draft became unenforceable by 1864.

David Hardee

Across our country, the results of attempting to bring prestige and inclusion to the minorities have proved those efforts are resulting in mayhem. The evidence is indisputable that where those minorities have achieved the power of leadership the entire community has fallen prey to inept and dangerous governance.

It is a simple process of listing those communities that are under siege from demonstrations turned into lootings, burnings, killings, and destruction of icons and you find that these disasters are promulgated by minority governance. These failures at governance are supported in office by the progressive liberal Democratic party.

There will be no end to this calamity until a stand against further permissiveness is throttled by the stern rejection of demands for more accommodations.

These demands for statue removal are only the latest surrender by a society wishing one more will satisfy these malcontents. Stupid is defined as repeating an action proven to be bad expecting a good result.

The embracing of the promises of the progressive liberals of a Big Tent, Village to raise your child, free love, etc has reaped devastation of all that once made America the best hope of humanity.

American society is known for being apathetic until a cataclysmic act kills and mutilates thousands, Pearl Harbor, 911 World trade bombing, china virus, etc.. And progressive liberal influences are increasing apathetic danger from foreign country attacks. But the most danger is that the character, mores, and culture are eroding from 60 years of the progressive liberal social engineering experiment.

If our County Commissioners surrender to the malcontents demands to remove the statue they are enabling the continuation of social mayhem. Don't vote for more stupidity. Across our country, the results of attempting to bring prestige and inclusion to the minorities have proved those efforts are resulting in mayhem. The evidence is indisputable that where those minorities have achieved the power of leadership the entire community has fallen prey to inept and dangerous governance.

It is a simple process of listing those cities that are under siege from demonstrations turned into lootings, burnings, killings, and destruction of icons and you find that these disasters are promulgated by minority governance. These failures at governance are supported in office by the progressive liberal Democratic party.

There will be no end to this calamity until a stand against further permissiveness is throttled by the stern rejection of demands for more accommodations.

These demands for statue removal are only the latest surrender by a society wishing one more will satisfy these malcontents. Stupid is defined as repeating an action proven to be bad expecting a good result.

The embracing of the promises of the progressive liberals of a Big Tent, Village to raise your child, free love, etc has reaped devastation of all that once made America the best hope of humanity.

American society is known for being apathetic until a cataclysmic act kills and mutilates thousands, Pearl Harbor, 911 World trade bombing, china virus, etc.. And progressive liberal influences are increasing apathetic danger from foreign country attacks. But the most danger is that the character, mores, and culture are eroding from 60 years of the progressive liberal social engineering experiment.

If our County Commissioners surrender to the malcontents demands to remove the statue they are enabling the continuation of social mayhem. A vote for removal is more stupidity.

Ron Shelby

The statue communicates defeat. Possible compromise would be to remove the plaque and install a new one that communicates the history of the defeat and acknowledges the many dead on both sides of the tragic civil war.

Don Hill

[beam]I am almost 78 years old. I think I lived in the best part of this country's history. Great time to be alive. Now days, all anyone wants to do is complain. Either about race or what they do or don't have. So many " hurt " feeling about so many things. Poor babies.. The country we live in is slowly being torn down. No pride anymore.

Charles Douglas

Right On Mr. HILL!!! [thumbup][thumbup]

Charles Douglas

"What's next, remove the name of the island, city, county, hotel because Bernardo de Gálvez imported slaves to Spanish Louisiana?"

........Mr. Carlos PONCE.

Yes! The way this untoward, twisted society is moving and gravitating in the direction of, ...what YOU are wondering could end up being proposed and brought forth by the LEFT as appeasement to keep minorities voting for them. I'm wondering when The City of Houston will be asked to change it's name! You know Old Sam Houston had more than 80 slaves! Jim Bowie had some too, ..yet he is glorified at the Alamo! When will the Alamo be closed? Are we going to be even-handed about this destructive, behavior, or will we be selective about what history we destroy, or teardown? What about Mount Rushmore? We have two SLAVE MASTERS looking down from there? So what's up? I said what's UP? LOLO. Satan is doing one [censored]..of a job manipulating politics in this country! I mean we are witnessing the craziest things anybody could imagine, shocking, appalling things occurring now.

Kenneth Macpherson

When the agenda for the Galveston County Commissioners Court was first published Thursday, August 20th, early evening, the location for the meeting was on Galveston Island. Friday morning County Judge Mark Henry moved the meeting to the Calder Rd Annex in League City. The annex is certainly a difficult place to find if you haven’t been there before. The Calder Annex is also a lousy setup versus the professional hearing courtroom in Galveston. Commissioners are in one room and people addressing the court are in a break room next door. Citizens are expected to speak to a laptop computer. Citizens are not able to eyeball the commissioners and the commissioners are not able to eyeball the citizen speaking. This morning after the fourth speaker and because of technical problems the break room setup had to be abandoned. Then from speaker five onwards the speaker was able to speak in the room with commissioners. The meeting was live streamed, but citizens had difficulty because the county WiFi was not operational. So citizens were not able to hear the other people speaking. I had to come home to watch what transpired. Some of the people speaking were never captured on video by the county; others were.

There were 12 people speaking today on Dignified Resignation. Eight people asked for the commissioners to vote removal of the statue. So to date we have had 36 speakers asking for this 1912 confederate Jim Crow statue to be removed. One person wants Galveston County to add four Union soldiers to the courthouse battlefield. For the first time three citizens rose asking for the loser confederate sailor to be retained at County expense. One speaker ran out of time having never made clear if he wanted the statue retained or removed.

I have been trying to reach my County Commissioner for weeks; leaving messages with his office, sending emails and even texts that I thought was to his cell phone, but it turns out it was his wife’s phone. This morning as I was driving to the meeting and thirty minutes before the meeting was to start Joe Giusti finally called me back. Joe’s in favor of the battlefield plan. Sylvia Gongora and Roxy Williamson were in the car with me. So like everything else in this experience of democracy; it was not acceptable.

Now for a little good news. The plaque which portrays two confederate flags; the battle flag, the X-shaped flag, and the stars and bars, stars on a blue field with red white red bars, has been removed at county expense and I guess without a vote of the Commissioners Court. I am glad of the removal. Also the “Glory to the Defeated” sign has been removed. That sign said “There has never been an armed force which in purity of motives, intensity of courage and heroism has equaled the Army and Navy of the Confederate States of America, 1861-1865.” I am glad that despicable bit of heritage has been removed. We have asked for the seal of the confederacy to be removed from the back of DR’s plinth.

Brave County Commissioner Stephen Holmes then spoke to item # 83. He said the courthouse square should be a place of honor for all citizens. He said, and probably the majority of citizens would agree, this isn’t the place for dissension. He said it is not appropriate to have a divisive statue on the courthouse square. Holmes made a motion that Dignified Resignation be removed from the courthouse lawn. Henry interrupted, “To where?” Holmes countered that deciding to remove it is the first step and they needed to see if there would be agreement first. Hearing no second Henry opined that Holmes motion died for lack of a second; so no vote was taken. Four republicans were spared going on record, happy to stay on the wrong side of the clearly changing tide of history.

Other counties in Texas are putting Galveston County to shame. Bastrop County had a public hearing with eight invited guest expert witnesses and 50 public speakers. Caldwell County had a courthouse statue committee that worked to make a recommendation to the court. Four Galveston County good old boy commissioners remain happily married to their loser confederate sailor mascot. Look for the battlefield at the courthouse on the horizon.

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