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Michael Sam is a 2009 graduate of Hitchcock High School, not 2008.
I recognize him now. IT AINT GOOD . An abomination ! Its been written.
There are many good Christians in the NFL. I pray that none get chastised by the NFL establishment if they reach out to Michael in their life's ministry. Look at what they did to Tim Tebow.
Response to joy2thefishes posted at 12:51 pm on Sun, May 25, 2014:
Am I reading correctly that you take issue with Mr. Sam proclaiming that he's a member of the gay community, and that you feel it's "not good", and his being gay is an abomination, written in Scripture? I think we realize that the Bible has many conflicting stories. I would think that murder, thievery, and adultry would be higher on the "sin" scale than a single, young football player who happens to be gay.
But, even more so, I want to ask. If your "handle" is joy2the fishes, do you realize that is a lyric from the "Three Dog Night" signature song of "Joy to the World", from a group that persevered, represented social freedom and justice, and held great relevancy in the late 60s and early 70s, where folks were realizing that the prision ties that the older generation had on the younger generation were no longer acceptable. Three Dog Night was a group that had to wrestle with many personal problems from within, including Chuck Negron, who had to battle decades-long drug habit. You might be glad to know he's drug free now and has a solo career. I somehow think that Three Dog Night would be supportive of your anti gay views, knowing that you're using one of their signature song lyrics. Maybe one day you'll "see the light" and love people for who they are, instead of sentencing them to an abysmal land due to your view of their "abominations". I think God is a more loving and forgiving God than that.
Let me clarify: I DON'T think Three Dog Night would be supportive of your anti gay views.
See there, you still do not understand, because you don't want to understand. You want to do as the Pharisees and their buddies the "SADDUCEES" did years ago, and that was to stand off, thumb their noses scoffing at the truth, saying I THINK THIS, AND I THINK THAT! The almighty God does not care what YOU think!-I feel charitable today, since it is Memorial Day honoring all those who served or gave their lives so others could live free, and express their opinions like "joy2thefishes" tried to do below. Here is a little truth for you,...God does not measure sin by how big it is, or how small it is! Let that sink in. God looks at sin, big and small, as SIN!!! Sin long ago had to be atoned for by the sacrifice of animals like bulls and goats etc. once a year behind a veil by the HIGH PRIEST! That was a shadow of things to come don't you see. Sin then was never eradicated, just atoned for or pushed back like interest on a debt which still needed to be paid. Then, those sacrifices could not eradicate the debt,...but JESUS came and did just that.-It was not until the Lamb of God ( Jesus )came and the ultimate sacrifice was made, by Caiaphas, the then High Priest who handed him ( Jesus ) over to the Romans in order to be SACRIFICED not murdered,...but as a sacrifice for ALL sin for those who would believe in Him, repent of sins, call on Him as Savior and live in Him, by faith in GOD'S Word. -Romans 5:8"But God commended his love toward us, in that, while we were YET SINNERS, Christ died for us." -Galatians 3:11-1211) "But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for the just shall live by Faith." ( Faith in what? "FAITH IN HIS WORD, AND NOT WHAT YOU THINK!" ....jbs )-12) " And the law is not of FAITH: but the man that doeth them shall LIVE in them!"-Now what does that means? It means that YOU and nobody else can fulfill or comply with the demands of the laws of God, because if you lie, in God's eyes you are NO BETTER than a man who murdered! So, again sin is sin!!!-James 2:10-1110) "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."
11) "For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law." ( THAT MEANS ALL OF THEM, NOT JUST THE lil one you thought God would not see! ) "Sin is sin!"-How does a man break or transgress the law? He does so by SINNING! So, there it is. It is written! This is what "Joy2thefishes" was saying and talking about when he said it was written. Some people will never understand,...people like the Roman Procuralator Pilate, who asked the most IGNORANT question in the history of time itself when Jesus told him this:-John 18:37-38Jesus: "Everybody on the side of TRUTH listens to me." -Pilate: "What is the truth?" ( The fool was talking to the TRUTH and did not know it!)-Now I'm going to have to close this little session out before I have to start charging!Remember this, Joy2thefishes has as much right to personal opinions as you or anybody else have! This is what this day called Memorial Day is all about! This is why I and hundreds of thousands of other American military people put that dam green uniform on and packed that M-16 for,...FREEDOM of choice! -Before I leave this thread I have one more statement concerning that same stupid Procuralator who asked the stupid question above about the truth,....because I want to be fair about this. Pilate then turned around and asked the MOST PROFOUND QUESTION EVER ASKED BY MANKIND!!!!! He asked this a little later of the lynch mob out to kill Jesus and free a killer named Barabbas:-Mark 15:12-12) "And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?"-THOSE PEOPLE PILATE WAS TALKING TO SAID THE SAME THING MANY PEOPLE TODAY ARE SAYING,...MANY ON THIS FORUM ARE SAYING....by their actions and mentalities,... AND THAT IS"
"Crucify Him!" Yes, by mocking God, and Jesus, and their people, you are no better than that MOB in that Roman courtyard! There is a price which will be paid for adopting this mentality after such people quit breathing and come face to face with the GOD they have been so arrogantly persecuting! That day might come sooner than you think! You never know where and when the DEATH ANGEL OF DOOM will come for you! It might be tonight in your bed! it might be next Monday at an intersection on Broadway. You never know.
-Now, having said that I'll see you on another thread,...if it is worthy! JBG out!
Response to Jbgood posted at 11:22 am on Mon, May 26, 2014:
Well, JBG, you can gussy up the doctrines of the Bible to say that it's "the law of the land" and things like "all sin is equal", but I do know this: I would rather come across a gay person who has sinned 10 thousand times over in his/her lifetime with his/her forbidden lover than a thief who robbed millions of $ from unsuspecting fellow men. I'll take the peaceful, loving Muslim (non-Christian) who uses his day-to-day existence to bring people up, support, and champion the variety of humankind that exists in our world.
I want no part of people who presume to read a few lines of an old, dusty manuscript and then use that to tell others that they're doomed to the pits of hell. No thanks!
sverige, I want you to find a follower of Allah, a Muslim and ask him what his Koran teaches about homosexuality and how they should treat the homosexual before you condemn the Bible.I have never met Jbgood in person but based on his writings in these forums I can assure you his Bible is not a "dusty manuscript" maybe old and worn like mine but definitely not dusty from non use.Then they said to him, "Who are you, so that we may give an answer to those who sent us? What do you say about yourself?" He said, "I am A VOICE OF ONE CRYING IN THE WILDERNESS, 'MAKE STRAIGHT THE WAY OF THE LORD,' as Isaiah the prophet said."
Well it seems as if the anti God believing sveirge1 is back at it again.... It would seem as if the left hates anyone who does not believe in their perverted ways.... It would seem today that if a God fearing Christian states anything that is in the Bible we are immediately hated and vilified.... Well our Lord was crucified for what He believed in and He told us that many would hate Him and all that He stands for and hate the ones who believe in what He stated....So go ahead and spew your hatred towards Christians and what we believe....
Paul, when you get a chance re-read Paul Harvey's "If I were the Devil". It sounds very similar to sverige's postings. Here is an excerpt " If I were the Devil, I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: “Do as you please.” “Do as you please.” To the young, I would whisper, “The Bible is a myth.” ....And the old, I would teach to pray. I would teach them to say after me: “Our Father, which art in Washington” . . .
Read More: 'If I Were the Devil' Video by Paul Harvey 1965 | http://710keel.com/if-i-were-the-devil-video-by-paul-harvey-1965/?trackback=tsmclip
I'm sure no white straight man who was the last pick in the draft ever got a parade..pathetic
Response to Smith7 posted at 10:28 pm on Mon, May 26, 2014.:
Bitter much?? I think anyone who possesses something unique should get recognition in the public eye. I've never heard of a black man in the NFL will forever in the media from here on now be followed in regard to which beau will be his friend and confidant throughout his young adult life. Sam seems like a genuinely nice and centered individual. More guys in the NFL should be like him.
By the way: Trebow is allegedly a man who is white and straight. He had a "gimmick", and it was received mostly very cordially and affectionately, in "parade" fashion.
Let's take a moment today to recognize and organize a parade for our great and heroic citizen, Smith7. Sounds like you need a good pick-me-upper.
Response to paul-hyatt posted at 7:20 pm on Mon, May 26, 2014:
On the contrary, paul-hyatt. I love my fellow mankind, but I will not let it pass by for anyone to put down someone who is a gay or lesbian. It is not a crime, no matter what religious zealots want to manipulate it.
I was raised Catholic/Christian, and I have led a moral and ethical life thus with no prison or moral turpitude records. I probably could be more loving, faithful and more moral than you or JBG are, but just as my point is - we all should let our Lord God and Savior make those determinations. Have you gone out this morning to vote for your favorite intolerant Tea party candidate? [beam]
You may have attended a Catholic Church in your younger days but based on your posts you just don't get it. Did you attend Catechism? I can tell you know the letter of the law but have not the spirit. No true Christian believes in "putting down" the homosexual. We love the sinner but hate the sin. However, we are all sinners and all sin is forgivable except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. We who are saved serve as guideposts for those who openly sin. God places people in our path on purpose. We are not judging but simply saying "You are going the wrong way." God sees all, hears all, knows all. But for now we are his servants until His Kingdom Comes. We serve as his hands, we speak to those who do not hear his voice nor heed his Gospel. We walk to correct the paths of the lost. We offer hope for those who have none. We offer friendship to the lonely, kindness to the stranger, an ear to those who wish to unburden their thoughts. We speak for those who cannot speak, especially the millions killed through the criminal act of abortion. The Nazis killed 21,000,000. Mao Tse-Tung killed 49,000,000. Joseph Stalin killed 7,000,000. But the worst offender was the United states with over 50,000,000 killed under the precept of a "woman's right to choose". Who will speak for those who cannot? I WILL!
Here's today's Bible quote for paul-hyatt, carlosrponce, and JBG:
"Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment."
And another Bible quote for all who believe in love, tolerance, and allowing Christians and non-Christians to be their own persons:
"As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind."
You, have already admitted that you are not a Christian, you have indicated that you hate old dusty scriptures or the Word of God, and you even blasphemed Jesus, God and the Holy Ghost, now who in their right mind is going to listen to you talk about the significance, meaning, and revelations coming from God's word. You are truly a piece of work! -I'm not going to demean The Word of God, or myself by arguing about it with anyone and most especially you! I will say this before I leave,...and that is You trying to teach a Carlos Ponce or a JBG something about the Word of God is like BUGGS BUNNY trying to teach Albert Einstein about arithmetic! -It was not Mr. Ponce, nor JBG who were working on your soul, last night,...it was the Holy Ghost and the Word, that spiritual TWO EDGED SWORD Mr. Hyatt, Mr. Ponce and JBG was swinging at you on this forum! We were trying to snatch you back from the "MAGGOTS and the FLAMES" of the Lake of Fire....you are determined to do business with after you die, but no skin off our noses, we get credit for telling you what thus says the Lord, even if you NEVER believe it! I like and appreciate that very much. It helps greatly when I have to deal with those determined to go to the Lake!!! ( Notice I skipped Hell for "Hell is a nice place compared to the Lake of Fire" ) Let him who has an ear to hear,......HEAR!!!-However, you and those like you want Christians to regress into some hole, afraid to represent what Jesus Christ stands for in this earth! Keep hoping because it will never happen! Those days are over!! You think Mr. Ponce and JBG are the only ones like us who GOD have around here? There are THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS more like us and we are still multiplying! When I first started posting about the Lord and his Word on this forum years ago, you would have thought I had shot somebody. I was told this was not the right place or time to talk about God and all that! I replied, "If not here, then Where? If not Now, then When? If not to someone like you, then to WHO?-So no, I did not listen to them? Oh *&^% Nawwwwwww!!! I know you are hurting,...because of that spiritual sword which cuts to and fro, between the soul and the spirit, and the bone and the marrow, but better to hurt now than the "LAKE" later! Stop kicking against the "PRICK" trying to "OUTWIT" or change God's people. Stop working for the enemy and please stop trying to teach US, about God's word,...because that is so pathetic!-Now, I broke my on rule about not posting again on this thread instead of moving on to another more worthy thread, but I saw you over here hurting,...trying to recover from yesterday's, spiritual "WHUPPING" the Holy Ghost gave you so I decided to drop you a little truth so you could heal up a little!-This won't happen again, because I have declared this thread "UNWORTHY" for me,...and I don't want to start charging you for the truth which has the ability to set you free but you won't let it. You like living like you do,...so keeping living it! You are not fooling me, and you sure not fooling God, smart guy. You'll see once your time here is exhausted,...and the Hounds from Hell come forth to escort you to a place you will not enjoy. ( I must work the works of him who sent me while it is DAY, because when NIGHT COMETH, no man can work ) John 9:4. ( That means when you DIE, you are locked in to the program Satan had you working on, and the LIES he had you believing. It will be to late to ask for forgiveness then! -P.S. Stop going round saying Christians are judging you, You are being judge by the your own words proceeding from your own mouth and heart! Want a scripture? I'll give you one anyway! -Matthews 12:37:"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be CONDEMNED."-The foolish, scoffing, blaspheming words you posted yesterday about God and the Gospel, was words of condemnation, and you will have to stand before the GREAT JUDGE for them. -Now, I'm out of here,...see yall on another thread,....IF IT IS WORTHY!
Sounds like I pulled JBG's string! Oh well, I'll choose Michael Sam, Hillary, Anderson Cooper, Bill Maher, and Oprah over the prosletyzing fringe of your Christian "right".
Question for you, JBG, if you dare come back to this thread, even though you say you won't. What do you think of Joel Osteen and his ministry? He was publicly said he accepts the gay and lesbian populace. His ministry has a place for them and he does that say they are "wrong". Does that make Osteen as bad of a Christian as I am? Let's try to "scale" this concept. If a "1" means emmaculate/holy and "5' means a "wholly evil/bad Christian", then I am a "5" and Osteen, maybe a "3" or "4"? What number are you? Do you think God will rate you as a "1" - emmaculate messenger of God?
Sorry sverige, you just don't get it. Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Salvation is pass/fail. Either you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior or you don't. No scale of 1 to 5. And if you accept Jesus you accept His teachings and try to lead a life which is pleasing to HIM, not to your will but to HIS will.
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