You should see my face! Full of grace. Doug Jones won by the people and for the people. I am so proud the human race is the paintbrush of humanity’s dream. Sure, America has a long road to hoe, but please don’t judge people by the law, when love hung on a cross.

Alabama African-Americans, thank you. Alabama Latinos, thank you. Alabama Native Americans, thank you. African-American women all over the world, we make — and made — a difference! It’s a good day to be a woman in America. Especially black women, who will walk through muddy waters to make a point. Sisters, black, yellow, brown and white, we are precious in His sight!

Faith works paid off in Alabama Senate race on Dec. 12; it’s called dignity and respect for all.

“I don’t feel no ways tired, I’ve come too far to give up now.”

Lois Jones

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Diane Turski

I hope we can bring the same grace back to Texas in 2018!!

Carlos Ponce

Texas is red
Democrats are blue
Conservatives are graceful
Liberals live in the loo.[wink]

Gary Miller

Jones won a temporary Senate seat. In 2020 he'll lose by 20% or more if not forced out sooner. Alabama doesn't want liberals.

Jim Forsythe

The parties change. Texas has gone from 61% high for Republican's in 2004, to less than 52% today. Just as Texas is changing, so is other parts of the USA. When is the last time a party has had two different candidates for President win back to back .
Such as, Bush R ,Obama D , Trump R.
People look for something else, when they are disappointed in what is in office.

Alabama is changing.
1 Moore won only among old(er) voters
Among those 65 years old (and older), Moore won by 19 points. Among all other voters -- aged 18-64 -- he lost by eight. The problem for Republicans? Almost eight in 10 voters were 64 years old or younger. And the younger the electorate got, the worse Moore did. Among those 18-44, he got walloped by 23 points. Moore's loss was particularly pronounced among voters aged 30-39 where he took just 32% of the vote as compared to 66% for Jones.

2 Moms walked away from Moore
Jones took 66% to Moore's 32% among women with children

3 Moderates fell for Jones
Jones cleaned up among moderates, winning 74% to Moore's meager 25%. 

4 The Democratic Party is more popular than the Republican party
47% of people in Alabama on Tuesday said they approved of the Democratic Party while just 43% said they approved of the Republican Party. It doesn't take a political genius to conclude that Republicans have a brand problem.

5 Republicans are increasingly only a rural party 
Moore won overwhelmingly -- 62%-36% -- in small cities and rural areas
Cities over 50,000 people Jones won  71 %

6 Black voters are incredibly energized
African-American voters made up 29% of all voters and Jones won them 96% to 4%

Carlos Ponce

People didn't walk away from Moore because he's Republican. They walked away because of the allegations against him.
Is your 52% Texas Republicans based on the 2016 election results? If so you forgot to mention that while Trump garnered 52.2% of the election in 2016, Hillary got only 43.2%.
Using your 2004 base model Democrat John Kerry got 38%
So Republican Trump got 9 percentage points less than Texas native GW Bush. Bush's popularity was due to his Texas native son popularity.
Look at the trend.
2004 Bush 61% Kerry 38%
2008 McCain 55% Obama 43.6%
2012 Romney 57% Obama 43,6%
2016 Trump 52% Hillary 43.2%
So does it look like Democrats are gaining in Texas? Not really.

Jim Forsythe

If Hillary was such a failed candidate , the Republicans should have received a larger percent of the votes.
The slide of percent that the republicans have had , is mostly due to the increase in voting for other parties, beside the Republicans and Democrats. As you can see, the percent for the Democrats remained about the same at about 
43%,since 2008.This is setting up, for a strong candidate besides a Republicans winning.

Carlos Ponce

"If Hillary was such a failed candidate , the Republicans should have received a larger percent of the votes."
Not necessarily. Democrats are good at one thing - DEMONIZING the opposition.
As far as votes are concerned remember the final results:
Trump - WINNER
Hillary - LOSER, LOSER, LOSER
Team Trump went after the votes that count - Electoral votes. Hillary ran a terrible campaign. Remember when she actually roped off the media? If a Republican candidate had done that you would still be hearing how STUPID an idea it was.
As far as votes are concerned looks like 43% of voters are yellow dog Democrats, ie as long as that yellow dog has a "D" by its name, he or she gets their vote. And Hillary did bark! Another STUPID move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WovYnLL9Yow

Jim Forsythe

What we were talking about was the percent that Trump won by in Texas, not who was the winner , and who lost. Trump winning was a foregone conclusion before the election, as far as Texas was concerned.
Texas is slowly becoming a purple state, and one indication of this, is the decreasing percent of the votes Republican's are getting in the Presidential elections.
You agreed that Hillary ran terrible campaign, and the percent that Trump won by was 5% less than Romney.
If this slides continues, in 2020 the Republican candidate in Texas for President, will be close to, if not below 50% in vote total in Texas and the independents will receive a larger percent, which will be about 7%. Also if the trend continues, the Democrats will receive the 43% that they have been getting.  
In 2005 voters in Texas  44% of voters were Republican's , 34%  were Democrat and 19% were independent.
The number of  independents, since then has increased.

Carlos Ponce

"What we were talking about was the percent that Trump won by in Texas, not who was the winner" This must be a joke. Surely you know the Electoral college that determines the winner.
"Texas is slowly becoming a purple state" How many times have we heard this pipe dream? Got your pink sneakers on, Jim? [wink]

Jim Forsythe

Carlos , we are not talking about the Electoral college, but the percent of votes that candidate's received in Texas in past elections.
As you posted, Trump received 52% the lowest total that a Republican has received in a long time. If the trend continue, and their is no reason to believe it will not, then the independent's voters numbers will grow.
Why would my footwear, be a concern of yours?

Steve Fouga

"Team Trump went after the votes that count - Electoral votes."

Team Trump, meaning Russia with the help of the Trump Campaign.

I'm really curious who in the campaign helped direct the Russian ads and bots. Don Jr. and Kushner aren't smart enough. Ivanka isn't political enough. My money would be on Stone, Conway, or Bannon. Maybe all of them.

Carlos Ponce

"Team Trump, meaning Russia with the help of the Trump Campaign."
You may claim that all you want but there's nothing to back it. Sheer fantasy.

Jim Forsythe

Steve one of the main players was Brad Parscale,
—The man behind President Trump’s unexpectedly successful digital operation says didn’t realize he was retweeting Russian bots during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Brad Parscale, who served as digital director for Trump’s campaign last year and now runs a pro-Trump Super PAC, said he was not aware of Russian operatives on Twitter, Facebook or any other platform that might have been acting to influence voters. During the campaign, Parscale and other Trump campaign officials retweeted a tweet about media bias from a handle disguised as that of Tennessee Republicans.

Carlos Ponce

And Jim, what did Brad re-tweet???
“Thousands of deplorables chanting to the media: ‘Tell The Truth!’ RT if you are also done w/ biased Media!”
Do you really think that SINGLE Tweet swayed anyone to vote Trump????
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-campaign-staffers-pushed-russian-propaganda-days-before-the-election
It is highly doubtful and LAUGHABLE that ANYONE would base their vote on that "Tweet". Brad thought it was from Tennessee Trump supporters.
Collusion?
No sensible person will think this was "collusion"!!!!!


Steve Fouga

"Brad Parscale... said he was not aware of Russian operatives on Twitter, Facebook or any other platform that might have been acting to influence voters."

Did he say this under oath? But, it wouldn't surprise me if he really wasn't aware. It would only take one person telling the Russians where to focus their efforts. If I were running the op there would definitely be only one person, and they would be the only one to know.

Jim Forsythe

Steve, look for Brad Parscale to be a big problem for Trump, and what happened with Trump and Russia 

Since the investigated about Russia is starting to get in gear, they are probing Brads connection to the Russia.
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They are  "very interested in finding out" whether there was "Russian funding or support" for the Trump campaign's data analytics operation, "or Russian assistance in any way with gathering data" that was then used by the campaign.
Congressional investigators are now probing whether voter information stolen by Russian hackers from election databases in several states made its way to the Trump campaign, . The data operation Parscale directed was supervised by Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, who is now being scrutinized by the FBI over his contacts with Russia's ambassador and the CEO of a sanctioned Russian bank in December.
"If any campaign, Trump or otherwise, used inappropriate data the questions are, how did they get it? From whom? And with what level of knowledge?" . "That is a crux of the investigation."

Carlos Ponce

Jim, do you understand the phrase, "grasping at straws"?
Nothing will come of this.

Jim Forsythe

Flynn is the first straw to fall, more to follow!
Flynn is first person inside President Donald Trump's administration to be reached by special counsel Robert Mueller's probe. The developments are a sign that the investigation is intensifying, and details revealed Friday provide the clearest picture yet of coordination between Flynn and other Trump advisers in their contact with Russian officials to influence international policy.
According to an FBI statement, Flynn communicated with then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak after being asked by a senior Trump transition official to find out how foreign governments stood on a coming UN Security Council resolution about Israel. The prosecutors did not name any transition officials.

Carlos Ponce

"According to an FBI statement, Flynn communicated with then-Russian Ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak..."
Is this against the law? No. The communications happened AFTER Trump's election. This is permitted under the Presidential Transition Act of 1963:
"The national interest requires that such transitions in the office of President be accomplished so as to assure continuity in the faithful execution of the laws and in the conduct of the affairs of the Federal Government, both domestic and foreign."
https://www.gsa.gov/governmentwide-initiatives/presidential-transition/legislative-overview/presidential-transition-act-of-1963
Why did Flynn not disclose this to the FBI since it was not against the law. It's a "GOTCHA" type of question. "Did you communicate with the Russians?" Since the inquisition was about possible collusion during the election, not after, Flynn answered, "No." "GOTCHA" "We have the audio recordings showing you did!" But it happened AFTER the election, not during nor before.
This is what is known as a PROCESS CRIME (i.e. - a crime committed during the process of investigation).It's a nothing crime, usually not persecuted on this level. If this was a Congressional Hearing he could have amended his statements.

Jim Forsythe

How much he squeals, will determine his punishment. If he was not guilty, he would have not said, I did it.

A "nothing crime" will cost Flynn how much? 
Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador and disclosed that he is cooperating with the special counsel's office.
He faces $250,000 and 5 years in prison.

If Mueller were prepared to settle the Flynn matter on the basis of single-count plea to a violation of [false statements], he was almost certainly prepared to charge a great deal more. Moreover, we can infer from the fact that Flynn accepted the plea deal that he and his counsel were concerned about the degree of jeopardy, both for Flynn and for his son, related to other charges. The deal, in other words, reflects the strength of Mueller’s hand against Flynn.

Carlos Ponce

Jim, there's nothing to "squeal".

Jim Forsythe

Mueller is not looking for what is already known.
Mueller is not holding off putting Flynn in jail, because he likes him. He is waiting to make sure he has extracted all the links to others and bad dealings he can. If Flynn does not produce enough info, then Mueller will charge him with more, or give him the max. for his crimes.
Collusion, after all, isn’t the only question for the Mueller probe. What Flynn knows could lead directly to what Kushner knows or to what Trump knows 

Until the investigation is over, no one will know for sure, if Trump did what he is accused of doing.
If it turns out that Trump was protecting himself, or some “very senior member,” in firing Comey, that sounds a lot like obstruction of justice, which, even in that scenario, probably wouldn’t give a Republican Congress much pause. But who knows if that scenario is even the dreaded worst-case scenario?.

Carlos Ponce

" If Flynn does not produce enough info, then Mueller will charge him with more, or give him the max. for his crimes." You mean TWO slaps on the wrist with a wet noodle???? There's nothing there, Jim.

Jim Forsythe

Punishment will be added in layers, until Flynn gives Mueller what he wants.
Punished   not more than $10,000 or by imprisonment for not more than five years for failing to register as a foreign agent.
Perjury indictment  $250,000 and 5 years in imprisonment..This is just a few of the charges that could happen. 
Just with these charges, he would be up to 10 years of imprisonment.
!0 years  may be a wet noodle to you, but it looks like Flynn does not want to take the chance. Also in play,if charges are done in concert with a state attorney-general,
a pardon is off the table from Trump.

Mr Mueller’s team reportedly had been looking into a variety of allegations surrounding Mr Flynn, including failing to register as a foreign agent and a supposed plot to forcibly remove a Turkish national living in Pennsylvania and send him back to Turkey. The single-count perjury indictment, a much lighter charge than Mr Flynn might have expected, seems to suggest that he has agreed to provide information to Mr Mueller. The plea presumably leaves Mr Mueller with ample leverage if Mr Flynn’s co-operation stalls: he can always bring more charges, perhaps in concert with a state attorney-general, which would put Mr Flynn beyond Mr Trump’s pardon power (the president can only pardon federal crimes

Carlos Ponce

Jim, I hope you're not disappointed when NOTHING comes of this inquisition!

Jim Forsythe

The investigation is just starting. What  the outcome will be, will be.
What will be disappointing if it turns out they did more than they already have said they did..
Saying they are guilty, Flynn and George Papadopoulos.

Besides Flynn being in trouble, the following are also in the same boat.
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was under house arrest for a litany of lobbying violations. Another campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, has pleaded guilty to lying to investigators.
Add in Manafort,  said to have accepted lucrative cash payments for lobbying and consulting work on behalf of a foreign power and failed to inform the Justice Department that he was doing so – an  violation of federal law, which requires anyone formally advocating for a foreign power to register as a "foreign agent."
Don't forget Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos,

Carlos Ponce

And after all is said and done you will find the results disappointing. Money and time spent on NOTHING of consequence. Trump will still be president. No jail time for those who plead "guilty" to minor "process crimes". They will eventually be pardoned after Team Trump is exonerated of the non-crime of Russian collusion. What is of consequence points to shenanigans from the Obama administration, corruption among the upper echelons of the FBI. BOOMERANG! And now presidential Green Party candidate Jill Stein is under investigation. Nothing there either.

Jim Forsythe

Money is being well spent! 

If more are guilty, so be it, and they will face punishment.
What  Flynn and George Papadopoulos receive, will depend on how much they help. Others will get the max if they do not help.
If they don't corporate , Mueller could  work in concert with a state attorney-general, which would put them beyond Mr Trump’s pardon power (the president can only pardon federal crimes.

Flynn has other problems.
The Pentagon inspector general is investigating whether Flynn violated military rules by accepting foreign payments from Russia and Turkey, which is disclosed by a House committee. According to documents released, Flynn was warned in 2014, when he was retiring from the military, not to accept payments from foreign governments without advance approval from the Pentagon.

If you think that what ever the result will be the end of it , think again.
Remember Congress  and  Benghazi , some still do not agree with their findings. The same will happen this time.

Doyle Beard

I thought this was Nancy and Chuckie with this phoniness and skewing but just happened to see it was JF.

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