Where was the AP fact check during Obama's term? Where was the investigation of Obama's attempt to influence the 2015 Israeli election?

It would be nice to have a newspaper that was not so liberal. Opinions belong on the editorial page — not every page.

The Daily News is not "fair and balanced."

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Carlos Ponce

The AP "Fact Checks" are so Liberally biased you would think they were were written by the DNC. Many of their "Facts" are verifiably FICTION. Problem is that many readers accept them without question because they appear in their daily local newspaper. These are written by AP writers Calvin Woodward and Jim Drinkard.
Calvin Woodward also writes for SALON, a website known for their Leftist propaganda.
If you want to read Leftist propaganda then go to Salon, Huffington, etc. but keep this bias out of the GCDN unless it is on the OP ED section of the paper as James Cleveland suggests.

Emile Pope

The truth is not "fair and balanced". The AP decided to fact check simply because Trump was making so many false statements that it was becoming impossible to keep track of them all. And the accusations being investigated against Trump's operatives involve criminal acts. Opinions are on the op-ed page. Facts are on the rest. The fact that you choose to dismiss them doesn't make them false. Just that some people decide to be ignorant of the facts...

Doyle Beard

Dream on Emile.

Carlos Ponce

"The fact that you choose to dismiss them doesn't make them false."
But if you go to other sources you can PROVE the "AP Fact Checks" are mere opinions, not based on fact. And some are pure fabrications. But some like their FAKE NEWS because it supports their Leftist views.

Craig Lindberg

It's not the AP fact checking Trump that exposes their bias - it's that they don't fac check liberals with the same fervor. Fake News runs rampant in the mainstream media, but their lies of omission is a much larger and more serious problem.

Bryan Manuele

The best fact-checks I've ever seen are the videos where president Trump says he didn't say something and right next to it on the same screen is a video of him saying exactly what he's denying in the opposite video.

George Croix

I agree.
Just like our last President....et al....
Those politicians...they just never learn.......
[smile]

Carlos Ponce

Out of context , of course.

Doyle Beard

Same as Obama, Hillary and Nancy

Doyle Beard

Kinda like the video of you can keep your doctor, you can keep your policy, your premiums will be lower and it was a movie that cause the incident in Benghazi to name a few

Emile Pope

That's because there were a few. Not like the serial liar Trump. To try and compare the numerous lies of Trump to Obama's is laughable. Unless you have proof that President Obama lied as much as Trump save your false equivalency...

Craig Lindberg

Where is your proof that Trump lies more than Obama - much less the Clintons? Just because you disagree with something doesn't make it a lie.

Josh Butler

The GDN is much, much more balanced than that unreadable liberal groupthink rag in Houston. Like I have said before, the overwhelming majority of newspapers are left leaning, even in Texas.

Paula Flinn

The reason we have fact checks on this President is that he is the first president to have attacked the free press in speeches and in tweets, and that should be a "red flag" for anyone concerned with the preservation of the First Amendment. Our current President has already stated that the Constitution is outdated. That should give the conservatives pause.

Also, our current president is a serial liar, in that whatever he says or tweets cannot be believed unless it is corroborated by hard evidence. He has contradicted his Secretary of State and his Press Secretaries so many times, they have considered not speaking or answering at all and cancelling open press conferences and briefings. In short, our current President does not tell the truth, nor does he show any curiosity about learning what to do and say in his new position.

I , personally, think that he is mentally disturbed, with narcissistic and sociopathic personality disorders. He craves the attention his Republican base gives him, and is revengeful of President Obama and anything he or the former First Lady did for the people of this country. JMHO

Carlos Ponce

Paula, he only attacks the FAKE NEWS Media, not all media. Some he likes.
As far as being the first president to attack the "free press" in media that is FALSE.
Twitter, yes, in speeches and writings you can go back to this nation's founding.
A serial liar. Like "If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance," No that was Obama. Or I did not have sex with that woman," no that was Bill Clinton.
" He has contradicted his Secretary of State and his Press Secretaries so many times" . Did it ever occur to you they got it wrong and the president is correcting the record? No, of course not. It would never occur to a Trump hater.
Of course anyone who espouses other than Leftist views Paula would find mentally disturbed, with narcissistic and sociopathic personality disorders". You probably think that of me as well.[beam]
" He craves the attention his Republican base gives him, and is revengeful of President Obama and anything he or the former First Lady did for the people of this country." As Barbara Bush once said, " He's getting what he 's given." It was in reference to her son GW but the same can be said about Obama: " He craves the attention his Leftist base gives him, and is revengeful of President Bush and anything he or the former First Lady did for the people of this country."
Trump learned from the master.

Paula Flinn

No, I do not believe that President Obama craved the attention of his base. He did not give campaign rallies after he won, like the current President did. Nor do I believe that President Obama was revengeful of President Bush. He had too much work to do to stimulate the economy and create jobs after two very expensive wars in the Middle East which put us in recession. Very few jobs were created during the GW Bush Administration, in fact jobs were lost. Google it. (There are several sources of comparisons of job creation under both presidents.) President Obama saved the car industry, the housing industry, and even the banking industry, put more money in all people's pockets and created jobs.

Concerning our current President, our allies overseas are even less enthused about him. "Der Spiegel", the German newspaper recently said, "Donald Trump is not fit to be President of the United States. He does not possess the required intellect and does not understand the significance of the office he holds nor the tasks associated with it. He doesn't read. He doesn't bother to peruse important files and intelligence reports and knows little about the issues he has identified as his priorities. His decisions are capricious and they are delivered in the form of tyrannical decrees."
Donald Trump has not "grown into the Presidency." He is just as clueless now as he was before his first intelligence briefing. I agree with Der Spiegel's statement.

Carlos Ponce

PF "No, I do not believe that President Obama craved the attention of his base. He did not give campaign rallies after he won, like the current President did."
Yes he did to both. Obama was always in campaign mode, even now.

Doyle Beard

Carla seems like PF has selective memory as most libs do. Keep your doctor, keep your policy, your rates wont rise, and a movie caused the Benghazi fiasco. Just a few lies from the past.

Emile Pope

Interesting how the Repubs keep repeating the save few lies President Obama said. That's because they were so few compared to the person who lied before being President and lies even more now. I thing that a person who lies more than 75% of the time can be called a serial liar...

Carlos Ponce

If you like, Emile, I could show you much, much more.
"I've never broken any drug law." July 24th, 1991
On Sept. 8,1992, Bill Clinton said, "The only people who will pay more income taxes are the wealthiest 2 percent, those living in households making over $200,000 a year." Even NYT found this hard to swallow reporting "There are tax increases for every family making more than $20,000 a year!"
But his denials of his sexual escapades are more famous but far too many to list here.
If you would like more lies told by Barack Obama other than those concerning healthcare here's a list:
https://www.infowars.com/252-documented-examples-of-barack-obamas-lying-lawbreaking-corruption-cronyism-etc/

Emile Pope

You listed one by Clinton that is questionable. Not another one about his policies. Then you go to his personal life. Weak. Infowars???? Explains a lot...

Doyle Beard

What did Obama and Michele do except weaken America First sentence is completely false.

Craig Lindberg

No, Trump is not the first President to "attack the free press." He's the first president to call them out for their bald-faced lies. The mainstream media in the country is corrupt. It is the mainstream media that absolutely can't be believed.

Paula Flinn

As far as denigrating President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush, I don't remember President Obama reversing all of the good programs that they started. Certainly Pres. Obama did not reverse Laura's Literacy Program. Trump has even reversed the good diet plan that First Lady Michelle Obama made available to public schools because childhood obesity was one of HER programs. No, the level of intensity for hate for "all things Obama" has been heightened by THIS president, as he blames everything on Hillary and Obama and reversed all of the Clean Air & Clean Water Regulations. There was no leadership from him on any Healthcare Bill put forth by the Republicans. When he finally read parts of it, he said it was "mean." Trump has promised a bill that does not decrease Medicaid or Medicare (or Social Security). The Republicans, in their haste to give the richest Americans tax cuts, could not deliver a bill without touching the increases in Medicaid which would have forced thousands of people off their current plans.

Doyle Beard

In order to refresh your selective memory Obama blamed all our problems on Bush. Hypocrsy at its highest.

Paula Flinn

Well the expensive War in Iraq was Bush's contribution to the decline of our economy. Nothing hypocritical in blame for that. Bush did have the Bin Laden family flown out of the USA after 9/11. The only plane that was flying that day to and from the US was that one. Also Bush did not create jobs. You can google that. It is a fact. So other than the economy, the Iraq War, 9/11 and aftermath, and no new jobs, Bush was a fine President.

Steve Fouga

"The Daily News is too liberal for me."

James, just read the forum for a dose of conservatism. [cool]

George Croix

"....he is the first president to have attacked the free press in speeches...."

Awww, C'MMOONNN....did you sleep through the entire years 2009 thru 2016...
Our last President made a cottage industry of attacking Fox, openly, publicly, and with gusto.....
Still does......
It was practically a given that every time Obama publicly opened his mouth there would be a Fox-news derisive comment...or a lie....
Heck, he managed to get what passes for his base (appropriate word) to mindlessly rail against Fox even though many never even watched it...!!!
Politicians HATE their reality being laundered for anybody who cares to to see.
But they love mind control....
All of them....

Emile Pope

Fox isn't news...

Carlos Ponce

Fox isn't news to Emile. Delusional.

Paula Flinn

Carlos, there is a reason Fox News is called "Faux News."

Infowars is about as credible as Breitbart. They are both lying websites (fake news).

Craig Lindberg

Paula, there is a reason why the FAKE NEWS moniker stuck on the mainstream media like stink on you know what. "Faux News," on the other hand, is simply how liberals say "I only like left-wing biased news."

George Croix

You are entitled to your opinion, Pope.
And, evidently, your own facts....

Curtiss Brown

The problem is that Reality has a Liberal Bias.

You have to believe in things that are not based in reality, such as "Trickle Down Economics," "Benghazi," and Trumps economy forecasts to be a conservative these days. A faux conservative.

Craig Lindberg

Reality has a liberal bias? No comment may EVER stray farther from the truth. Mother nature, the ultimate reality, is also the extreme of conservatism. Liberalism is a foolish attempt to alter reality.

Jarvis Buckley

President Obama did not love & respect our USA like our President
Trump does . MSM & most politicians
Are up to their neck in the Swamp.
President Trump wants to drain the swamp. Politicians see $$$$ going away. I love GDN sometimes they
Let their political ideology get in the
way of the facts. But they always seem to right their boat sooner or later.

Paula Flinn

Jarvis, I disagree. President Obama loved our country MORE than Trump. All Trump wants to do is play golf, make profits on his businesses, products, and hotels, give speeches at rallies, and play golf. Oh, did I mention play golf? LOL

President Obama kept us out of war because he knew that the American people did not want war at this time. Let's see what Pres. Trump does. President Obama has class! President Trump proves that money does not buy class!

President Obama took the time to go around the country explaining how the ACA would work. Then the Republicans sabotaged it by not paying the subsidies to the insurance companies as promised. President Trump did not even read the Republican bill, much less go around explaining it to people. When he finally read parts of the Senate Bill, he said it was "mean."

Jarvis, you have been conned by "Don the Con."

George Croix

"President Obama took the time to go around the country explaining how the ACA would work."
But, PF, he lied from beginning to end on it.
Explaining doesn't count for anything when it's all lies, and the worst part is he KNEW it was lies while he was telling them.
He played his usual base for suckers.....and sucked in others by promising to pat for their insurance with somebody else's money...that's what subsidies are - robbing Peter to pay Paul...and all Peter got out of it was higher insurance costs for himself, not lower as promised, and steeper deductibles, not lower as promised, and fewer doctors/hospitals, not more as promised...and the ACA was never 'affordable' unless you happened to be one of the takers, not one of the makers....
It's a free country to pretend otherwise, but can't change the reality....
BTW, I believe we are STILL in Afghnaistan, despite 8 years of promises to get out, and were BACK in Iraq thanks to feckless leading from behind and lying to us all again about 'the JV'....
It's anyone's right to love Obama, but that doesn't his 'legacy'....

Paula Flinn

We Progressives who read know that the Republicans in Congress sabotaged the ACA by amending it to refuse the subsidies that were promised to the insurance companies for the small deductibles and premiums people were, at first, charged. . Sure it was affordable then, and the government was taking care of paying the subsidies. But the Republicans in Congress did not like that so they went back on the promises they had made to the insurance companies. That, alone, made the insurance companies go up on their rates and deductibles, and that eventually forced some of them out. President. Trump is still refusing to pay the subsidies, so the Republicans are directly responsible for the downward spiral of Obamacare.

My son was out of work and purchased a policy with the ACA. It is a good thing that he did because he became ill, and he was in the hospital for several days. Because of Obamacare, he was able to get treatment, pay any small charges he incurred, and he was not responsible for paying a $25,000 hospital bill. So the ACA saved his life and his pocketbook . Now over 20 million people have insurance under Obamacare that would not have it otherwise. Many are children. Repealing the ACA will be devastating for them.

Carlos Ponce

Paula, you're saying that without even knowing what the final Republican proposal will be.
Nancy Pelosi said "You have to pass the bill (ACA) before you know what's in it".
Paula Flinn's corollary, "We have to HATE and DESPISE the Republican bill before the final version is even written."
Who knows, Paula, maybe the Republican Bill will be BETTER for your relatives.
Why hate?

Craig Lindberg

Obama loves America? You can't possibly be serious. Two words: Jeremiah Wright. Everything Obama hates began on July 4, 1776.

George Croix

So far, Trumps' lies have not resulted in anybody dead, or anybody harassed by the IRS, or anybody accused of being racist and then 150 FBI/Justice Dept. lawyers could find no proof...etc.
Speaking of proof, blowing hard about it but never providing a 'smidgen' oneself seems to be a way of life for 'progressives'...
Of course, this is the opinion section, not the World Book.....

Jarvis Buckley

Great comment George.!! What I would give to be as articulate &
Expressive as you & Carlos.

George Croix

Mr. Buckley.
Set your sights on Carlos.
He's an educated man of obvious skill at documentation and presentation and high resourcefulness.

Aim higher than an old East Texas Piney Woods stomper.....[beam][beam]

Steve Fouga

Jarvis, I get a kick out of George and Carlos too! [cool]

Martin Connor

I had the pleasure of being Mr. Ponce's student for many years. He was a great teacher and treated all the students fairly. He's devoted his life to the school, his church and many organization's in our community. Even having been retired for a few years, he works tirelessly still today. He's like the energizer bunny. LOL.


I may not agree with everything he says and have to remind him periodically to stop being a bully on these forums, it doesn't take away the fact he's a good man. .

George Croix

One man's entertainment is another's...(fill in the blank)....

Steve Fouga

Well, the personalities on this forum are definitely part of the draw. That, and viewpoints that vary widely from mine. [huh][whistling][rolleyes][beam][unsure][angry][cool]

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