In response to my letter comparing Greg Abbott to Wendy Davis, Maureen Nolan Wilde calls single parents true heroes. Thank you for the compliment, Ms. Nolan-Wilde.

When my first husband died, I was left with three young children to raise. As a single mother, I did exactly as you said in your letter, putting my “children’s needs above all else while balancing the demands of day to day life.” I woke up every morning, fed and dressed them and got them to school before going to work to support them and myself. I never considered that remarkable, nor myself a hero. I just did what I had to do. My heroes are our police, firefighters and military who put their lives on the line for all of us.

Most of Wendy Davis’ “success story” has little to do with her being a single mom. Her second husband paid for her final two years at TCU, then cashed in his 401K and took out a loan to pay for Wendy’s tuition and expenses at Harvard Law School. Wendy’s two daughters lived with Mr. Davis in Fort Worth while she attended law school in Massachusetts. Shortly after graduating from Harvard and after the student loan was paid off, she divorced him and once again became a single mother.

Wendy Davis: hero or opportunist? You decide.

Brenda Gutierrez, Tiki Island

(70) comments

Don Ciaccio

Opportunist. No question! Worst thing I think - she admitted to The Dallas Morning News she lied about key events in her life. We certainly don't need a known liar running the state! Or frankly, one that supports killing the unborn...

Carlos Ponce

Thank you Brenda for your letter. If any man had pointed out the loopholes in Wendy's "hero" status he would have been branded as anti-woman.

Mick Phalen

It amazes me that the word "hero" is throw around so loosely these politically correct days - - and it comes from both sides of the political spectrum. Back in the day, Wendy Davis' words and actions would be called many things, but none of them would be heroic.

btw, the feminine form of the word is "heroine" - also something Wendy Davis is not ...

George Croix

Yes, encouraging other people to be morally bankrupt and to kill for personal convenience is hardly 'heroic'. Infanticide. Very 'progressive'...

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, gecroix -

It's not a matter of "personal convenience" or being "morally bankrupt". It's a given that the choice of abortion is not ideal, not a winner of moral compass recognition.

I, for one, have said that if it personally occurred in my family, it would be a crushing, hand-wringing decision. I think it's that way in a lot of families. Many of these families from suburban and conservative backgrounds.

It's so interesting for all of us to judge other people for making choices to end a pregnancy or for a family to come to grips that a child says he/she is gay. It's easy to judge, but if it came upon one of our own families, our tune would surely change.

Carlos Ponce

sverige, I do have a homosexual cousin, we do love him, same as ever even though we do not approve of his lifestyle. You can both love the person but disapprove the lifestyle. You seem to equate non-approval of same-sex marriage with hatred in other posts. Non-approval is not hatred.
If a family member considers abortion no matter what the reason I would counsel her not to go through it but to continue the pregnancy and either keep the child or give the child up for adoption no matter the circumstances. Where there is life there is hope. Where there is hope there is love.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to Don233 posted at 2:48 am on Thu, May 22, 2014:

If you knew someone who was going to abort her unborn child, would you step in and offer to help raise the child? Or, are you using the conservative catch-phrase "We believe in protecting the unborn" so that concept can add to the list of reasons you don't like other progressive issues such as gay marriage and nationalized health care?

We all have heard the "right's" laments regarding abortion, but this is Texas. We have the highest birthrates in the country (62 per 1000). If a populace is unwilling to help care for newborn babies' health when they come to term and become children, then we're back to the same old merry-go-round where folks go against something, but have no answers as to how to follow through when these kids become school-age.

Wendy Davis may not be the perfect candidate, but her candidacy does bring up issues that our state thus far has not been able to handle. So, if abortion doesn't give a semblance of a solution to the unwanted pregnancy problem, then what are the alternatives?

It is known that many of the opposers of Davis are envious that she happens to be a relatively young woman who has become post-college educated and has a progressive vision. She's not the "good-ol boy" that ya'll are so used to. Get with it - it's the 21st century. If not her, we'll soon have another woman like Ann running this state.

- - WENDY DAVIS - GOVERNOR - -

Carlos Ponce

sverige, I've already offered you alternatives -TWICE. But you refused to look up the links to church groups and other non-government groups willing to help women through abortion alternatives, providing housing, prenatal and neonatal care. But like most Proglibs you shut your eyes and close your ears to anything that isn't government run and sponsored.
The real WAR ON WOMEN has been waged by the Democratic Party. As proof I offer what they have done to Sarah Palin since 2012 and other Conservative women. And abortion has killed over 25,000,000 human females - now that's a WAR ON WOMEN! Strange that ProgLibs are more interested in "snail darters' than baby humans!

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, carlos -
Hopefully, the non-governmental groups and the churches can emass a wider following and be more visible and effective. If those alternatives are attractive to the young women in need, then the demand for the abortion decisions may soon diminish.

Perhaps when Hillary gets in the White House and ACA emerges from its infancy, some more government-funded broad-base qualities of assistance can be intertwined, adjacent, and merged with the non-governmental programs.

Carlos Ponce

Planned Parenthood should have made the availability of alternatives to abortions readily available to those seeking help. My understanding, and I hope I am wrong, is that their staff promoted termination as the best offering and suggested use of their own abortion mills. That is why people would approach those entering Planned Parenthood - because alternatives were not offered. Then laws were passed limiting access to those approaching these centers to counsel.

Dorothy Holt

sverige1...what is more important to you...the snail darters or the unborn fetus? Call it what you want but abortion is the murder of an innocent child. It is not a choice, it is not anything but the murder of an innocent child who had nothing to do with his/her option to live or die.

Don Ciaccio

Bottom line averige1, Wendy Davis has only a snowball's chance to win in Texas. We are finished electing the very left liberal Drmocrats.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, Don233. Have you heard this week in the news that virtually all of the Tea party candidates that ran this time LOST. I think it's pretty safe to say that the electorate doesn't like extremes on either side.

It seems most of us electorate are tired of the partisanship. Then again, even within your "conservative" element are the infighters between the Tea Partiers and the RINOS. What's with that?

Carlos Ponce

If you will do a race by race analysis you will find that the "main stream" Republican candidates have adapted Tea Party platforms. Check their commercials. I hope they don't forget their "Tea Party Like" promises.

Gary Miller

60 % of Galveston county Tea Party members are former Democrats.
Most RINO's are still Democrats.

Dorothy Holt

Better pay closer attention , sverige1. McConnell, the Democrat with an R by his name won. The Tea Party is alive and well.

Gary Miller

Tea Party and conservative Republicans were nominated.
To be elected in November.
Tea Party Democrats helped get rid of RINO Republicans.

Gary Miller

Wendy Davis?
A parasite proving a white woman can lie like a half breed black.
Her story indicates she sold sex for college tuition.
If a fetus isn't killed what would it become?
HRC once said abortion can have the good social effect of reducing births of low value citizens. In WD's case I'll agree with HRC.

Dwight Burns

IHOG, you just step down to a new low with your statements:

"A half breed black, low value citizens and in WD's case you agree with HRC.." Wow! You sound like a real Nazi.

Gary Miller

Why does agreeing with HRC sound like a Nazi?

Dwight Burns

You can't twist your way out of this one IHOG. Your statements, not mine.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

OMG, IHOG -
You really take the cake. Let's think this through. Aren't most of us "opportunists" to some degree? For women, if they run in the attractive category they can land a guy who is also a "winner", and he will provide very nicely. She, in turn, makes him look more prestigious.

For men, we look for a woman who we hope looks better than us. Someone popular who is socially charming (to get us men out of our awkward shells) and maybe can cook. Your statement that she "sold sex" for her tuition is rather off-base. Who knows what concessions her man made to nab her. It goes both ways, you know.

George Croix

HRC has also called for people to adopt the otherwise-abortion-to-be children if they oppose abortion of convenience. Evidently, to her, WE are the ones at fault for not doing so, not the 50 plus million killers in the last 4 decades making 'choices' of convenience.
Why?
We didn't have the irresponsible sex that produced the baby. We raise our children and families properly, and teach them to be good citizens and members of society.
It's just another straw man diversion by the 'progressives' when shown for what they largely are. Irresponsible users and opportunists, masquerading as 'caring'.
Of course, they don't 'care' about killing their babies that they didn't care about avoiding having, even thought they can get FREE or 10 buck a month BC, and don't care that they stick other people paying for their progeny.
'It takes a village'... of idiots to think that's a good thing...
Here's a thought...instead of teaching from birth what 'rights' can be exploited, why not teach what 'responsibilities' should be practiced.
Of course, that would NOT be very 'progressive'...

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

I doubt that Wendy Davis is a "one issue" politician. I still think folks are associating her with the abortion issue because she has been technically a single parent and that she's a woman.

That's a pretty weak accusatory set to "peg" the abortion issue on Davis. If we studied the voting records of other Texas politicians, they wouldn't be any more "for" or "against" abortion. For example, where was the abortion issue when Bill White ran for governor? There was none, because he is a man.

I do have a question for folks who condemn others for making the abortion choice. If your daughter came home and said she had an abortion, would you call her one of the 50-plus killers?

Raymond Lewis

..."proving a white woman can lie like a half breed black". What on earth is that statement all about IHOG??!!

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

There may be a million different ways to interpret that. Not that I have a good imagination, but, still, I can't think of a nice way to interpret that. Hopefully IHOG will pop back in and explain this in such a way as to get my eyes to stop rolling around in my head.

Gary Miller

When our half breed president gets away with lying I see little difference when a white woman, WD, doing it.

GW Cornelius

Sounds like you are both heros to me and Wendy will make a great governor unlike the one we have had for years which Abbot is a clone of.

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

While there are two irresponsible parties to the irresponsible sex that creates these unwanted children, we only care about the followup actions of one of the two. The other? Oh, he's off participating in irresponsible sex with other women. Boys will be boys, I guess. It's the women that we expect to grow a pair and do the responsible thing. And, if she chooses to have and keep the baby, and that puts her on welfare, well, she gets scorned for being a welfare mother moocher freeloader, too. And the guys? What guys? Who cares about them?

I'm all for people taking responsible for their actions. I'm not for making one person responsible for an action or 2 people.

George Croix

That's perfect.
As long as stuff like that keeps getting spread around, either or both of the partners is free to do whatever they want, knowing that somebody else will cover for their screwups, or downs, or whatever direction. Unless it's a rape, neither partner HAS to participate, do they? Maybe teach some morals in the family? Maybe USE the BC that the 'war on women' has us all paying for. Too much to demand?
I suppoose the thought of openly CONDEMNING, loudly and long, BOTH of the bad actors has become passe'?
You certainly don't have any problem making EVERYONE ELSE responsible for the actions of two...

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

Are you talking to me? I certainly don't think I advocated for everyone taking responsibility for the irresponsibility of two people. However, in most of the solutions you offer up for AFTER the pregnancy happens, do involve others shouldering some of the responsibility for the irresponsible actions. Whether it be other family members having to house and/or sit and/or feed the kids, or Welfare and WIC doing it, or adoptive or foster parents. Yes, some of those people may be begging for the opportunity to do that, but others take it on begrudgingly or as a matter of sense of duty.

I can certainly buy into the argument that willing participants should be willing participants in the whole process. However, I hear a lot of conservatives screaming about how the female must remain a willing participant at least throughout the pregnancy. However, I hear no one screaming about making the male remain a willing participant at least through the birth of the child. He gets to withdraw his involvement, well, at the moment of withdrawal. Not her, however.

My belief--if you accept a double standard, then you are not accepting any standard. If you want to call her a murderer for not remaining attached to the child for 9 months, then call him that, too. And lock them both up for it.

In a bank robbery, the guy holding the bag is just as responsible for any deaths as the guy holding the gun. In procreation, however, the one that fired all the shots can get away scot-free.

George Croix

"I'm all for people taking responsible for their actions. I'm not for making one person responsible for an action or 2 people."
"I certainly don't think I advocated for everyone taking responsibility for the irresponsibility of two people.'
You don't have to think, because you wrote it, and you're parsing, again...
If having to pay for the abortion or child care of an 'unwanted' child is not the responsibility of the two who made it, or the one who's stuck with the bad decision, then the cost falls on the taxpayers, everyone else.
You cannot have it both ways. If you don't want to hold one person responsible if the other one bugs out, then the ultimate payer is everybody else but them.
Spin like a top, but after the spin stops, there it is...

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

The responsibility should be on the 2 people that created it. If you're going to let one off the hook, we know which one is getting off the hook. Why? Why does our society insist that the woman must be the one left having to figure the whole thing out? Just because she chose the biological capability to carry the child? Because she's the one that we deem is solely capable of handling it?

If she's capable of handling the whole thing by herself, perhaps there isn't an issue. However, if she's not, we're going to let HIM off the hook, leaving her to find at least one person not physically involved in the process to take on HIS responsibility in addition to some or all of hers.

It took 2 people to make the baby. One gets to shirk responsibility at that point, and the one left is the one that's going to get the cross-eyed looks from the conservatives, regardless of how she moves forward. He, on the other hand, is probably hanging around in the same circles advocating pro-life, since he knows he's never going to have to make good on it.

What I'm saying is that if our society wants to stop abortions, one of the places it can look is the OTHER producer of these children, and pressure THEM to be accountable. Paying for our own mistakes is reasonable. Making someone else pay for your mistakes is not cool. However, our society seems to think that in some cases, it's all well and good.

2 commit the crime, one does the time, and the other doesn't even have so much as a record. That's the inconsistency. She gets dinged because she got pregnant. She gets dinged because "baby daddy" is gone. She gets dinged if she has an abortion. She gets dinged if she gives it up for adoption. She gets dinged if she tries to raise it herself. She gets dinged if she relies on government assistance trying to raise it herself. He gets high-fives for being a ladies man.

Close the loopholes. Make him accountable, too. Don't cast the woman onto some leper island by herself.

Gary Miller

Kevjlang.

I suggest women know the identity of their sperm donnars.
That name confirmed by DNA test should require the man to pay child care from conception until after college. Half his gross income or 100% of his disposable income should slow the preditors.
Extreme?
You bet but no more extreme than him dumping on a woman and his child.

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

I don't see a problem with that. If he feels there's a valid reason why he shouldn't be held responsible, let him go through the legal channels to prove it. If we're going to come down hard on one party to the "mistake", we should come down hard on both. If we're going to continue letting one off scot-free, it's inconsistent and unfair to come down hard on the other.

Mick Phalen

Today's quiz:

Which of our progressive thought leaders (hint: founder of Planned Parenthood) was a believer in eugenics and thought that abortion was the best way to eliminate the black race?

A. Harriet Beecher Snowe
B. Hillary Clinton
C. Margaret Sanger

Gary Miller

HRC gave a speach in which she said abortions serve a good social service by eliminating low value citizens.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to mickphalen posted at 3:57 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014:

OK, as that very well could be part of our historical past, in regard to that quiz question and the intertwine of abortion with the phrase to "eliminate the black race". Now, let's think of the "here and now" of 2014. How relevant is that quiz question, really?

Now, back to today's reality: Did it work? No. We still have the black race. Again, back to nowadays: Does anyone (regardless of race) think about having an abortion so that they can eliminate their own race?

Carlos Ponce

sverige, In 2012, there were more black babies killed by abortion (31,328) in New York City than were born there (24,758), and the black children killed comprised 42.4% of the total number of abortions in the Big Apple, according to a report by the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene.
"Now, back to today's reality: Did it work? " Unfortunately sverige , In NYC ,it is.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, ponce:

I just don't think that the ones who choose to have an abortion consider the regenerative and re-propogative nature of their race. If they did, then they wouldn't make that crucial trip to the doctor's office.

You do know that your statistic of black children killed (42% of NYC population) means that less than half were black. The other majority 58% were other races "eliminating their races".

So, back to the theme of this thread: Are single parents "heroes"? You might be surprised at my answer. No, IMHO, they are not. It is motherly and fatherly nature, inherently placed by our Maker that causes a parent to sacrifice for his/her child. That's not heroic. That's being a representative of the animal kingdom, namely of the primate species.

Carlos Ponce

Tell you what, sverige, I could spoon feed you all the statistics and you would simply come up with some quip to avoid the point I was trying to make. The point was that more black babies were aborted than born in NYC. Of the 57.6% of all other races who had abortions, the number of births outnumbered the number of those aborted. They were not "eliminating their races". Look it up!

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

Is the problem that they are being aborted or that they are being conceived in the first place? What is the root of the problem? Is our society really ready for all of them to be born and be fed and employed and cared for in an economy and society that isn't managing the population we already have?

What are we proposing other than divine intervention to encourage them to not get pregnant in the first place?

Gary Miller

Aborting their children to eliminate the black race isn't something black women do.
It's what the progressives desire.
Nearly all abortion mills are sited in inner city locations where they can access the most black women.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

IHOG - There's a'plenty of rural, country road back alley abortions. Don't kid yourself. The teen pregnancy problem in this country is from urban, suburban, and rural alike. It's a US problem, not a "blue state" urban problem.

Broaden those horizons a bit. We'll help you along :)

Gary Miller

Sverige.

I didn't call it a problem. Of Urban, Suburban or Rural America.
It is a problem of black self genocide. With progressive urging and assistance.
Black women don't think of it as self genicide but progressives do.
Black women are only 13 % of the female population but they have 42 % of all abortions. Progressives want to cut their cost by using taxpayers money.
For what purpose do you think? More black abortions is my guess.

Mick Phalen

Hi sverge1, I was just trying to keep the mood light, but since you asked:

For all the concern about a child being raised in a single mother home (I was one), or the possible destruction of one or two young lives (I've seen some), I am still stuck with this notion that some time during a 9 month birth cycle, life begins. And then, once life begins, just who is it that decides that an innocent life can be terminated.

My reference to Margaret Sanger was intended to highlight the hypocrisy, and unintended consequences, of the progressive agenda. ("Oh, I'm so sorry that over 50% of black babies have been aborted in the last few years, but just think of those poor girls who no longer have the burden.")

Mick Phalen

Oh, btw, sverge1, it wasn't an "intertwine of a phrase" from the "historical past" - - - it was a direct quote from one of the lead eugenicists and progressive thinkers of the last century ...

Gary Miller

If all abortion supporters had been aborted no one would support abortion.
They got their "right to life" but denigh it to others.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to carlosrponce posted at 8:24 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014:

No, I agree with you. I don't think African Americans (or anyone else) thinks they are "eliminating their race" while they make the decision to have an abortion.

I was simply responding to mickpalen's writing that (I suppose in humor) supposedly made reference to a historical figure who associated abortions with eliminating a certain race.

So sorry, but I usually take the humor of things perhaps even more than the average person. If it was meant in humor, then I really have no response to that. However, in regard to accuracy and truth, I'll say it again. "NO". I don't think modern-day young women and their families take into account that by their aborting a child that it will factor in some conscious and on purpose "reduction of the races". That's plain ridiculous.

If a historical figure thought of it back then, then so what? We're in the "here an now".

Now, I will bring this up - all in the search for the real truth. Now, for many of you white, middle-aged conservative men out there: Do you really care about the "elimination of the black race" if a lot of black folks decide to have their daughters get abortions? Face the truth: That's what YOU want. Everyone knows that conservative white people are no friends to the African Americans (or any group that isn't part of the WASP category).

Carlos Ponce

I think sverige your last paragraph reveals YOUR true self. The Conservative Right respects ALL HUMAN LIFE. Yes, we do care, we respect LIFE.
You are right in stating that no woman thinks about a "reduction of the races" when having an abortion. The presence of abortion mills (Planned Parenthood) has a "de facto" effect on the decision to have an abortion. Ask yourself, "Why are the abortion mills (Planned Parenthood Centers) built close to where African-Americans live?"

Mick Phalen

searching for "the real truth": good one, sverge1 - - - adding a little humor to a serious discussion never hurts.

(You were joking, right?)

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to carlosrponce posted at 8:23 am on Fri, May 23, 2014:

A "Captain Obvious" reply of yours, I see. Yes...Planned Parenthood buildings are not only located in close approximation to African American areas, but also Hispanic areas, so what's your point? I know: Republican conservatives don't care much for the lives of Hispanics either. So, in republican conservative tea party hearts, y'all are actually glad whenever any "minority" obtains an abortion.

Carlos Ponce

It's a conspiracy, Margaret Sanger reaching out from her grave to get her Eugenic wishes.[wink] sverige, in case you haven't noticed, I am a Hispanic and we have a Hispanic running in the local Texas Republican Primary runoffs and a Conservative Hispanic US Senator so your statement "Republican conservatives don't care much for the lives of Hispanics either" is pure........ nonsense. As is your diatribe that we are "glad whenever any 'minority' obtains an abortion". I weep for the murdered unborn.

Mick Phalen

sverge1, would one of those Planned Parenthood buildings be the one on 45, being investigated for stealing millions by billing us taxpayers for work never performed. Great service to the "community".

The federal government has become the gravy train for every cheat and con artist around to get their fair share.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, ponce:

This is what the republican party's reputation is:

http://www.policymic.com/articles/71195/here-s-the-deleted-slavery-meme-minnesota-republicans-don-t-want-you-to-see

Maybe one day you'll realize they indeed do not like Hispanics, no more than their dislike for African Americans. As the saying goes, you can't take a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Or, how about "don't take any wooden nickels?"

Carlos Ponce

What you don't like is that it pictures Democrats buying and selling slaves.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Well, just as I had iterated to mickphalen, I am thinking of the here and now. We all know that both the Democratic and Republican parties have changed philosophies over time.

In all honesty, I don't give a whit about what a party was called in the 19th century, nor what they believed in - unless I needed to know that info for a test question. So, ponce...I ask - Why, as a Hispanic, are you associated with the republican party? They do not work at all in regard to the struggling middle class. And, they have never been friends of teachers (current nor former).

Carlos Ponce

sverige, you have a misconception of what Conservatives believe in. What you are doing is repeating Left Wing Talking points which have NO basis in reality. The Republican Party (the Conservative part, not the Rinos) work for the betterment of all. A hand up, not a hand out. And to say Republicans are not a friend of teachers is pure rubbish. Most of the teachers I know are Conservative, and I've taught with hundreds. So as a non-Hispanic you are speaking for the Hispanics. And now you are speaking for the teachers? Tell me when your comedy routine is over. No one is laughing. [yawn]

kevjlang
Kevin Lang

Do either party's "talking points" reflect reality?

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to carlosrponce posted at 10:54 am on Fri, May 23, 2014:

Are you referring to Cruz, in regard to the "conservative Hispanic running for Senate?" Cruz isn't a true Hispanic. He can't speak Spanish, he's from Canada.

There are Mexican, Central and South American Hispanics who don't include Cubans (such as Cruz) as being true Hispanics either, but we can let those individuals make that determination.

In short, Cruz is not a true Hispanic representative of Texas.

Carlos Ponce

And you, sverige, have set yourself up to be Judge and Jury on who is and who is not Hispanic. Really? Keep it up, You and your antics are driving more people to the Conservative side than we ever could by ourselves.
Hispanic Definition: adj. adjective Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
n. noun A Spanish-speaking person. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.
I never heard of anyone who did not include Cubans or people of Cuban descent , even Cuban Canadians of not being Hispanic.
Argument failure on your part sverige. Ted Cruz is Hispanic by definition. Check his bio.
http://www.tedcruz.org/bio/
or the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/who-is-ted-cruz/2012/08/01/gJQAqql8OX_blog.html
or the Texas Tribune
http://www.texastribune.org/directory/ted-cruz/

Mick Phalen

C'mon sverge1, I thought you much better than to pull out the slavery card.

Lest we forget (I know your dislike of history): It was Abraham Lincoln (R-Illinois), along with the majority Republican Party, who ended slavery as a national policy. Too bad the likes of George Wallace and Robert Byrd did not get the message. Dwight Eisenhower (R-Kansas) began the process of true integration. Bush II did more to relieve the plight of Africans than all other presidents before him, combined.

What have the progressive civil rights leaders brought us: Tawana Brawley (Sharpton); corporate blackmail (Jackson), living large on his father's name and his constituents money (Jackson, Jr.); welfare slums, single parent babies (if they survive birth), drug induced gang wars. Chicago, Detroit, NYC. No thanks to that crowd.

I still await MLK's dream that no person will be judged by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

Mike Leahy

Carlos, crazy as it must seem, I think there are a number of Americans who believe they should define a "True Hispanic" only as someone who holds the political views they have arbitrarily assigned to Hispanics. In short, the King of Spain is no true Hispanic to them unless he is Democrat (and far out on that left cantilever, as well).

I guess if you are actually Hispanic, but have the temerity to hold your own political viewpoint, then gringos are free to say you are a "Fake Hispanic". "Alice, where is that rabbit hole?"

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to carlosrponce posted at 12:20 pm on Fri, May 23, 2014:

Remember that I said in my 11:49 post writing that we should leave it up to the Hispanic individual groups to decide who is truly considered Hispanic.

I know of plenty of Texas Hispanics (mostly of Mexican descent) who have told me that THEY don't consider Cubans as true Hispanics. Now, I only heard those folks say these things, and I shook my head and simply listened. I have no way of knowing, since I am not in any way of Hispanic nature.

Why do many Texas Hispanics believe Cubans (like Ted Cruz) aren't true Hispanics? Maybe it's a geographical component, in which a Hispanic (in their view) has origins in Central and South America). Perhaps it's cultural. Cubans are different than Mexicans and Salvadorians.

Hey, I'm just the messenger. By the way, you do know that even Mexicans and Salvadorians have vastly differing views and cultures, and they're closer geographically. Now, as for "talking points"...I consider that a "catch" phrase. Let's simply say this: Most of the conservatives do not like social progression, in the sense of women's rights and gay/lesbian marriage - to name a few issues. Again, it makes no difference if these folks are or were democrat or republican in the 1800s.

As far as teachers are concerned, in this day and age it behooves a teacher to be socially tolerant and flexibile, non-judgmental. For example, if the teacher comes across a pregnant girl, it is no time to say the unsupportive and judgy things we hear from the conservatives on these forums. The child needs understanding and a good listening ear so that she can know who to go to in her time of need. Once an adult admonishes a young person, then that adult/teacher has "lost" the child's trust.

Carlos Ponce

Only Ultra-Liberal Leftist Hispanic Politicians don't believe Ted Cruz is a Hispanic. They think they represent all Hispanics but they do not. Ted calls himself himself a Hispanic of Cuban origin and I see nothing that contradicts that claim. My circle of friends and relatives think Ted is a decent person.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to kevjlang posted at 11:41 am on Fri, May 23, 2014:

And, that's exactly why the anti-abortionist stance is the equivalent to a fantasy trip to Disney World. The reality is that there is NO ONE who would have taken care of these aborted children. All it seems the conservative right can do is prosletyze about the virtues of being celibate and "pure".

Now, in theory, I would love nothing more than all boys and girls to limit their physical affection to a peck on the cheek at 11:30 PM, after the PG rated movie, while the guy says "good night" to the girl. That simply isn't going to happen anymore in this country. "Grandpa, Tell Me 'Bout the Good Ol' Days" was The Judds sentimental song that I think all of us here would love to have come to play in our nation.

We're simply not "middle road" anymore. Young kids WILL have sex, and probably lots of it. Mass birth control (whether they be "the pill", IUD, "the day after pill", or whatever they use these days) has got to be answer. Make it available, accessible, inexpensive.

Carlos Ponce

"The reality is that there is NO ONE who would have taken care of these aborted children. "
Tell that to the childless couples who would love and care for them had they be allowed to live and adoption was an option.

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Lars Faltskog

Where are all these childless couples, then? If they can be rallied and coalesced together, then these childless couples can have their pick of a child who has been saved from abortion.

We must realize how "dicey" the adoption process it. For example, a young mother who decided to give birth may very well have '2nd thoughts' and want to keep the child. I would imagine that many potential adoptive parents would be leery of such a scenario. The candidates for adoptive parenting very likely don't want to get involved in the family drama that ensues when a young pregnant girl/woman is going through the birth process, then having to "give up" the baby.

Carlos Ponce

"Where are all these childless couples, then?" They are on waiting lists at adoption agencies. Check out http://www.americanadoptions.com/
And there lies the problem. One of my students was pregnant and decided to put up her unborn baby for adoption. Her pre-natal care was paid for. As a high school sophomore she did not want the "burden" of a baby. Once the baby was born, she changed her mind. The more successful adoptions come from a pregnant woman who has already had children and is mature enough to visualize what is in the baby's best interest. She can have her identity sealed or revealed should the grown-up "baby" seek his or her biological mother.

sverige1
Lars Faltskog

Response to IHOG posted at 11:40 pm on Thu, May 22, 2014:

Well, IHOG has an interesting rhetorical question. I'm wondering if any of you folks would consider yourselves in this equation, for a moment.

I know if I had not had the mother and father I had gotten - if I had received instead an abusive parent - I would probably have wished that my miserable life HAD been eliminated. A very plausible and honest retrospection.

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