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October 25, 2016

This president is on stage, and it’s all staged

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  • GlenKrajca-Radcliffe posted at 10:14 am on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    GlenKrajca-Radcliffe Posts: 32

    As opposed to spending money to move an aircraft carrier, put the President in a flightsuit, and string a politicized banner with "Mission Accomplished" on it?

  • carlosrponce posted at 2:50 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    the "Mission Accomplished" banner was requested by the men and women of the Aircraft Carrier USS Abraham Lincoln to commemorate the end of THEIR mission. The banner referred specifically to the aircraft carrier's 10-month deployment (which was the longest deployment of a carrier since the Vietnam War) and NOT the war itself, saying "It truly did signify a mission accomplished for the crew."
    And you're supposed to wear a flight suit when flying in an S-3. George W. Bush trained and served as a jet pilot in the Air National Guard flying F-102 fighter-interceptors. Name me one other president of the United States who piloted fighter jets. He looked good in a flight suit. Get over it.

  • mytoby3113 posted at 3:43 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    mytoby3113 Posts: 429

    carlospronce, you can make it seems as President Obama has done something. wrong. I say to you get mad or sad , Bush said WOM, and jump on that ship and you know it was staged. .. Ha Ha . LIER, LIER, PANTS on Fire.
    [beam] [beam]

  • carlosrponce posted at 4:36 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    mytoby, with all due respect, I never mentioned President Obama in this forum. And my pants are not on fire. I am a truthful man with my Lord Jesus as my Savior. Remember the Commandment:"Thou shalt not bear false witness".

  • Bigjim posted at 5:25 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    Bigjim Posts: 1318

    carlos I found that The first to earn a pilot’s license was Dwight Eisenhower, who soloed in 1937, when he was a lieutenant colonel serving in the Philippines

    Theodore Roosevelt. The flight took place on October 11, 1912 by the former POTUS. Roosevelt flew for 4 minutes in an airplane built by aviation pioneers, Wilbur and Orville Wright, at Kinloch Aviation Field near St. Louis, Missouri.
    I guess no license required.

  • sverige1 posted at 5:26 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 4054

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 2:50 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014,
    Response to mytoby3113 posted at 3:43 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014:

    Fact check on George W. Bush and the weapons of mass destruction, "mission accomplished" foible:

    Wearing a flight suit, spending exorbitant amounts of money on an unnecessary jet landing of aircraft carrier, Bush (while "on stage" in this occassion) announces the end of "major combat operations" in the Iraqi war. While the speech Bush was given took away the verbiage of the war being over, as said by Rumsfeld, "they fixed the speech, but not the sign", conclusion remained that the banner was premature imagery, as was Bush's costume of flight suit. The bottom line was that the premature conclusions via banner/flight suit imagery compromised the integrity of the Bush presidency because such imagery and words indicated a short end to a war that, whereas in fact, the war went on for several long years, resulting in American combat deaths.

  • carlosrponce posted at 5:52 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    check your facts, sverige, check your facts. No matter what you write, the banner was still a tribute to the men and women of the USS Abraham Lincoln.
    "They had a sign that said 'Mission Accomplished.' It was a sign aimed at the sailors on the ship, but it conveyed a broader knowledge. To some it said, well, Bush thinks the war in Iraq is over, when I didn't think that. But nonetheless, it conveyed the wrong message." George W. Bush

  • sverige1 posted at 6:09 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 4054

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 5:52 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014:

    Fact check verified. You don't believe Wikipedia? Time Magazine? Titled: "How Bush Misjudged the Task of Fixing Iraq".

  • carlosrponce posted at 6:24 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    That's not the topic, sverige. Facts: The "Mission Accomplished" sign was asked for by the men and women of the USS Abraham Lincoln. The banner was generously provided by the White House. The banner was erected by the US Navy. The banner signified the end of their 10-month deployment. Case Closed.

  • carlosrponce posted at 8:26 pm on Thu, Aug 7, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    "All the world's a stage,
    And all the men and women merely players;
    They have their exits and their entrances...." William Shakespeare

  • pflinn posted at 7:47 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    pflinn Posts: 1318

    Using regular people or using the military: Which Prez. has used the military as a "backdrop" the most? Just asking....

  • bvresident posted at 9:43 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    Well I can't tell you the number of times but I can tell the reasons why each has pictured themselves with the military. George W. Bush did it when he wanted to acknowledge the efforts of our military personnel and Hussein Obama-who normally despises the military-uses it when he has to somehow make himself look strong. The difference between a real leader and a shucking-and-jiving community organizer hoodie from Chicago.

  • carlosrponce posted at 9:43 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    Do a comparison of the West Point Cadets greeting President George W. Bush and the West Point Cadets greeting Barack Obama. You will see a heartfelt enthusiasm for one, the same enthusiasm shown him by the men and women of the USS Abraham Lincoln. Also compare the reception the US Marines give each President.

  • lisablair posted at 11:02 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    lisablair Posts: 193

    Looking at the Rules of Conduct, I think "shucking-and-jiving community organizer hoodie" would qualify as a racist comment. GCDN, why do you post this stuff?

  • bvresident posted at 11:24 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    Gosh Lisa, you people are so predictable. Any comment that isn't a ring-kissing accolade to the Liar-in-Chief is considered racist, hateful, etc. That's all you can say when you can't refute the facts.

    He is an admitted pot-smoking radical from Chicago.
    He is an admitted community organizer.
    Have you ever seen him around his movie star friends? He's shuckin-n-jivin. Why get so angry about your president being so accurately depicted? He seems to be proud of all those things. But you libs-who are supposed to be for free speech-only believe in free speech when it follows your warped views of our country.

    Now here's the definition of "shuckin-n-jivin" from Wikipedia. It fits him to a "T".

    Shuckin' and jivin' (or shucking and jiving) is a slang term for the behavior of joking and acting evasively. More generally, the term can also refer to the speech and behavioral mechanisms adopted in the presence of an authoritative figure.[1] Shuckin' and jivin' usually involves clever lies and impromptu storytelling, used to one-up an opponent or avoid punishment. The term is also used in the Southern United States referring to deceit or mischief involving lies.[citation needed]

  • gecroix posted at 11:27 am on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6261

    It's always staged, except for the few times any President actually has a REAL community forum, or visits folks in the field, and even then they are carefull watched by Secret Service with heavy weaponry, so are not likely to get too rowdy...[beam]
    Nothign new here...

  • pflinn posted at 9:21 pm on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    pflinn Posts: 1318

    So, what did GW Bush admit to? A failed businessman (see Arbusto Oil) an alcoholic who used bad language in front of children, and a coke user. Before he became president a book was published called "Fortunate Son" by J.H. Hatfield. The Bush family had it pulled off the market. In it, he was described as more than a "pot smoking radical." He was a mean, feisty alcoholic with suspected marijuana and cocaine abuse in his background. Of course, he never admitted it.

    BS to your last paragraph. You would only use "shucking and jiving" to describe someone who is African-American, not white or Hispanic. Therefore it is a racist term.

  • pflinn posted at 9:31 pm on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    pflinn Posts: 1318

    All your opinion. Your distorted view of things.

  • gecroix posted at 10:24 pm on Fri, Aug 8, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6261

    The drug use in our current President's background is not 'suspected'...[beam]
    And, at least Bush ran businesses and a state before deciding how other people should run theirs.
    BUT, HOWEVER, and ANYWAY, if G.W. Bush was a cannibal, arsonist, and killer of kittens, what the heck does that have to do with whatever any other President does or will do?
    Answer: Doodley Squat
    You can legitimately draw parallels, when it's legitimate, but one does not justify bad behavior by pointing out other bad behavior.
    At least, not legitimately...[wink]

  • Concern posted at 11:51 am on Sat, Aug 9, 2014.

    Concern Posts: 99

    It's nice to know that you're finally watching the news. If you have been watching it in years past you would see that all politicians do that.

  • bvresident posted at 3:20 pm on Sat, Aug 9, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    pflinn, whatever meaning you want to ascribe to my comments are strictly figments of your vivid imagination. I know you have a vivid imagination because you seem to still believe that Hussein Obama has done something other than spend five-and-a-half years trying to destroy this country through his massive growth in entitlements, by decimating our military might to atone for being the most powerful and generous nation on Earth, by taking us to the point where almost 1/3 of this country's working-age citizens are unemployed, by destroying our healthcare system and wasting billions on a socialist system that has already failed, by using racial division and hate-speech for his own political purposes, by abusing-unlike any other President-the IRS, the TSA, and the DOJ to target political opponents while turning a blind eye to criminal conduct within their own ranks, by running up more than $7 TRILLION in new debt, and by ensuring that we won't have a single foreign ally left when he's finally finished trashing the Office of the President of the U.S.

  • pflinn posted at 2:40 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    pflinn Posts: 1318

    And with Bush, it was widely known that his friends were afraid to fly with him. He was a hot-shot show-off.

  • sverige1 posted at 3:45 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 4054

    You truly have issues with race. Therapists are available on sliding-scale basis. Life's too short to lament over a President who is none of the things you claim he is.

  • carlosrponce posted at 6:03 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    And you get your information from???????????????? Funny no one else knows this and a web search turns up zero, zip, nada. If it were "widely known" something would have turned up especially on the Donkey Pile.

  • sverige1 posted at 6:18 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 4054

    Response to carlosrponce posted at 6:03 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014,
    Response to pflinn posted at 2:40 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014:

    Well, I heard about it back in 2004 when Bush was was permanently suspended from flying with the Texas Air National Guard for having missed an annual medical examination..among other violations.

  • carlosrponce posted at 8:32 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    carlosrponce Posts: 6338

    And so what?
    "Bush said he wanted wait to take the physical until it could be done by his own private doctor. However, Air Guard regulations require that the physical be performed by an Air Force doctor. According to his military records, Bush never flew again as an Air National Guard pilot after April 1972. He received an honorable discharge from the Air National Guard in 1973 to attend Harvard Business School."

  • bvresident posted at 9:47 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    As usual, you and your Entitlement Party cohorts inject race into any the meaning of any comment that isn't a slobbering, ring-kissing homage to your president. Who cares? I think he's the biggest loser to ever step foot in the Oval Office.

  • Bigjim posted at 10:34 pm on Thu, Aug 14, 2014.

    Bigjim Posts: 1318

    Remember ,he's Your President to.

  • bvresident posted at 10:35 am on Fri, Aug 15, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    No bigjim, he's not my president. He's the President of the United States but that doesn't make him "my" president. As I said before but your were obviously too thick-skulled to get it-he doesn't represent my values, my idea of ethics or integrity, my idea of what this country should be like, my idea of Christianity, my idea of being qualified to even hold the office, or my idea of a leader of the country who believes in this country and what it stands for around the world-or used to.

  • sverige1 posted at 11:43 am on Fri, Aug 15, 2014.

    sverige1 Posts: 4054

    Response to bvresident posted at 10:35 am on Fri, Aug 15, 2014:

    You are in error if you think any President of the US should represent your "idea of Christianity". Our leaders should have nothing to do with our religiosity. Remember that the President represents us Christians as well as the Jewish, non-believers, and - yes - American Muslims.

    As far as representing your values, I would like to think that all of our Presidents have had overlap in our value system. Although I had difficulty accepting Bush #2's integrity, he did raise a family and had a decent wife, and somewhat a believer in the tenets that represented the American dream. You do realize that Obama is a Christian. He attends church with his family.

  • Bigjim posted at 3:55 pm on Fri, Aug 15, 2014.

    Bigjim Posts: 1318

    He 's still your President unless You are no longer a citizen of USA .You do not have to like him but he is Your President. He is President over all citizen's of USA . until 2016 when someone else will become our President.

  • bvresident posted at 1:19 pm on Tue, Aug 26, 2014.

    bvresident Posts: 1763

    You're very confused bigjim. We don't have a "President over all citizens" in this country although I can see where you'd much prefer to be a subject to a king or dictator.

    YOUR president is the President of the United States-no where will you find President of the Citizens of the United States.

  • gecroix posted at 2:02 pm on Tue, Aug 26, 2014.

    gecroix Posts: 6261

    Speaking of the President on stage, for a real eye opener, watch his speach from this morning given at the American Legion National Convention in Charlotte, NC.

    I couldn't decide whether he hoped those in attendance believed the stuff he was saying, or if he himself truly believes it all.

    Judging by the barest smattering of polite applause from a room filled with hundreds of attendees, they were experiencing the same sense of wonder I was, just more up close and personal....

    You HAVE to watch it to believe it ...
    Absolutely stunning.........

    Hints (mine, not official ones...):
    Delusion - A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence...
    Mendacity - Lack of honesty; Lying...
    Narcissism - Self centered: Having a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration...